Re: Deselect issues(was R: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?)
On Sun, 17 Nov 1996 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One solution would be to hade an unhold feature, which sets the status according to the currently-installed status. I don't understand this. The 'default' behavior of dpkg-ftp is to _ask_ the user if they want to get all of the new/updated packages prior to initiating the ftp connection. If I only want one or two packages right then, I can select only those packages and the rest can be retrieved (or not) the next time I select [I]nstall. This seems to be exactly the behavior you're looking for, yes? Maybe I've misunderstood. No. The problem here is that it asks *EVERY TIME* you go to download. Try this: On a clean install, using only 'stable' packages: Go to 'unstable' (to get kernel-package). See how many files you have to tell it to NOT get. Repeat a few dozen times for various packages that you later find you need. Don't use 'hold', as that would keep you from getting updates from 'stable'. You'll see exactly what I mean. | This is OFFICIAL WRITTEN notification that I want to be REMOVED | | from ALL commercial mailing lists. EVERY message sent from this | | account has had this request posted. ALL UNSOLICITED ADVERTISEMENTS | | SENT TO THIS ACCOUNT ARE IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL (U.S.) LAW.| -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deselect issues(was R: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?)
My only complaint is that it autoinstalls updated packages. There have been a number of times that I wanted to grab one new package via ftp install, and came up with 10 megs of updated packages. Here, here...I second this. I know you can confirm what to get but maybe there should be single question to overide this default behavior or something. I am a little confused here - dpkg-ftp prompts you if it should get all the new packages marked for installation or if it should prompt for each one separately. What more do you want? Should the questions be worded better? The problem isn't that I *have to* get everything; it's that it's the default, and the default can't be changed. I ran into this one on a machine that I wanted to keep stable. Unfortunately, I needed to go to unstable to get make-kpkg, and ended up upgrading nearly everything. (This was very early in my Debian career.) I still run into this occasionally when I go to a different site to look for something. Normally, the default is what I want, but there are times when I don't. The problem with using the hold feature is that if I set all updated packages to hold, then do an update, I have holds scattered all throughout the list. One solution would be to hade an unhold feature, which sets the status according to the currently-installed status. I don't understand this. The 'default' behavior of dpkg-ftp is to _ask_ the user if they want to get all of the new/updated packages prior to initiating the ftp connection. If I only want one or two packages right then, I can select only those packages and the rest can be retrieved (or not) the next time I select [I]nstall. This seems to be exactly the behavior you're looking for, yes? Maybe I've misunderstood. -- Lamar Folsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~fols9488 Life is wasted on the living. - The Master -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deselect issues(was R: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?)
Brian K Servis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Christenson writes: On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Mark Carroll wrote: My only complaint is that it autoinstalls updated packages. There have been a number of times that I wanted to grab one new package via ftp install, and came up with 10 megs of updated packages. (Not bad at work, but can be annoying on a 28.8 connection.) Paul Here, here...I second this. I know you can confirm what to get but maybe there should be single question to overide this default behavior or something. My $.02. I am a little confused here - dpkg-ftp prompts you if it should get all the new packages marked for installation or if it should prompt for each one separately. What more do you want? Should the questions be worded better? Andy. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deselect issues(was R: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?)
On 15 Nov 1996, Andy Guy wrote: Brian K Servis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Paul Christenson writes: On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Mark Carroll wrote: My only complaint is that it autoinstalls updated packages. There have been a number of times that I wanted to grab one new package via ftp install, and came up with 10 megs of updated packages. (Not bad at work, but can be annoying on a 28.8 connection.) Paul Here, here...I second this. I know you can confirm what to get but maybe there should be single question to overide this default behavior or something. My $.02. I am a little confused here - dpkg-ftp prompts you if it should get all the new packages marked for installation or if it should prompt for each one separately. What more do you want? Should the questions be worded better? Andy. They are referring to a packages default status of install after being installed instead of hold. That tells dselect that you want to install this package again (i.e. upgrade it). The only way to turn this off is to do it manually for each package, or to go to a package grouping (like Updated Packages (newer version is available)) and press = or H. This isn't really clear in the on line help though. It seems that you can go to any of these headings and take action on its contents in the same manner. This is the missing feature people want. It seems as though its there, been there, gonna be there, but we didn't know about it. It still doesn't please those who don't want to have to take any action to obtain a hold status for installed packages, but oh well. Thanks Richard G. Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] 011-81-3-3437-7967 - Tokyo, Japan -- *** Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. *** -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Deselect issues(was R: Is `.deb' still better than `.rpm'?)
Paul Christenson writes: On Wed, 13 Nov 1996, Mark Carroll wrote: My only complaint is that it autoinstalls updated packages. There have been a number of times that I wanted to grab one new package via ftp install, and came up with 10 megs of updated packages. (Not bad at work, but can be annoying on a 28.8 connection.) Paul | This is OFFICIAL *WRITTEN* notification that I want to be *REMOVED* | | from *ALL* of your mailing lists. *EVERY* message sent from this | | account has had this request posted. ALL UNSOLICITED ADVERTISEMENTS | | SENT TO THIS ACCOUNT ARE IN VIOLATION OF FEDERAL (U.S.) LAW.| Here, here...I second this. I know you can confirm what to get but maybe there should be single question to overide this default behavior or something. My $.02. Brian Mechanical Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://widget.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
