Re: Fact finding / clarification [WAS Re: Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help]

2024-01-14 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sun, Jan 14, 2024 at 11:58:42AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> You now have a slow access to one/more of your RAID devices.

Does he, though?  I thought we had established some time late last
year that his *symptom* (delayed startup of some applications) had
nothing at all to do with his storage devices, and everything to do
with his desktop environment.



Fact finding / clarification [WAS Re: Re: smartctl cannot access my storage, need syntax help]

2024-01-14 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
Hi Gene,

Frankly: Dealing with you over a mailing list can be very frustrating for
others trying to help (and especially for people trying to follow the list
who are reading the lists in the background and facing long, long threads).

You're not helping explain yourself well because the mails keep referring
to "other stuff that happened a while ago".

People ask to see mails / messages or whatever exactly because we can't
sit next to you, we can't see what you type, we can't see what you're 
meaning.

That's why well-meaning folk keep asking questions to try
and establish what's going on and get a sense of where we can help 
(if at all).

There's a whole series of long threads which loop through several 
subjects - I can tease out a couple of things.

1.) You have one large deskside machine - large enough that it's tough
to lift or move - which is used for many things.

2.) You've added various drive controllers and various drives over a 
period.

Unclear: At least one of your RAID devices may be mixed between on
motherboard connections and on-card drive controller connections??

3.) You "lost" a RAID a while ago so you don't trust RAID on some devices
but you're persisting with RAIDs.

4.) You have various add in cards but you don't seem to know which RAID is
which / what's "locking" your filesystem / what's causing your problems.

You now have a slow access to one/more of your RAID devices.

5). Unclear: All / ("most"??) of those RAID devices are using Linux mdadm
rather than "RAID" supplied by the individual cards/controllers.

Various of us - including myself - have suggested that you simplify things
/ get another machine and divide up functionality. For various reasons
you can't / won't do that.

Can you answer the questions I've posted above, please, to try
and clarify what you have. I would have asked you for /etc/fstab and
a couple of other files, but this is good enough to be going on with.

All the best, as ever,

Andy Cater
(amaca...@debian.org)