Re: Fedora has a boot option that forces the installer to recognize a drive as GPT, can this be added to Debians installer?

2018-02-22 Thread David Wright
On Thu 22 Feb 2018 at 18:56:11 (+0100), Erwan David wrote:
> Le 02/22/18 à 18:07, Roberto C. Sánchez a écrit :
> > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 04:15:43PM +, Indo Neh wrote:
> >>There is a boot option in Fedora 'inst.gpt' which forces the Fedora 26
> >>Anaconda installer to recognize a drive as a GPT drive for the purposes 
> >> of
> >>the Anaconda installer setting up the drive with a GPT partition table.
> >>
> >>[1]https://rhinstaller.github.io/anaconda/boot-options.html#inst-gpt
> >>
> >>Could this somehow be added to Ubiquity as this option is useful for
> > Ubiquity is the Ubuntu installer.
> >
> > It has been a while since I did a fresh Debian install, but the Debian
> > Installer Manual [0] says:
> >
> > The latter becomes important when booting debian-installer on a UEFI
> > system with CSM because debian-installer checks whether it was
> > started on a BIOS- or on a native UEFI system and installs the
> > corresponding bootloader.
> >
> > That seems to indicate that you should not even have to tell the Debian
> > installer, as it will detect whether to use GPT or not.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -Roberto
> >
> > [0] https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/install.txt.en
> 
> 
> It's not the same. You can have a GPT partitionned drive on a bios
> machine, those are completely different features (even if some OSes only
> support GPT on UEFI machines and MS-DOS partitionning on BIOS ones)

Yes, but is it not sensible to leave it up to the user to partition it
with GPT themselves? Otherwise, you may have people who go to the
trouble of conducting an installation onto a GPT disk and finding out
at the very end of the process that the system is never going to be
able to boot.

Cheers,
David.



Re: Fedora has a boot option that forces the installer to recognize a drive as GPT, can this be added to Debians installer?

2018-02-22 Thread Erwan David
Le 02/22/18 à 18:07, Roberto C. Sánchez a écrit :
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 04:15:43PM +, Indo Neh wrote:
>>There is a boot option in Fedora 'inst.gpt' which forces the Fedora 26
>>Anaconda installer to recognize a drive as a GPT drive for the purposes of
>>the Anaconda installer setting up the drive with a GPT partition table.
>>
>>[1]https://rhinstaller.github.io/anaconda/boot-options.html#inst-gpt
>>
>>Could this somehow be added to Ubiquity as this option is useful for
> Ubiquity is the Ubuntu installer.
>
> It has been a while since I did a fresh Debian install, but the Debian
> Installer Manual [0] says:
>
> The latter becomes important when booting debian-installer on a UEFI
> system with CSM because debian-installer checks whether it was
> started on a BIOS- or on a native UEFI system and installs the
> corresponding bootloader.
>
> That seems to indicate that you should not even have to tell the Debian
> installer, as it will detect whether to use GPT or not.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Roberto
>
> [0] https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/install.txt.en


It's not the same. You can have a GPT partitionned drive on a bios
machine, those are completely different features (even if some OSes only
support GPT on UEFI machines and MS-DOS partitionning on BIOS ones)



Re: Fedora has a boot option that forces the installer to recognize a drive as GPT, can this be added to Debians installer?

2018-02-22 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 04:15:43PM +, Indo Neh wrote:
>There is a boot option in Fedora 'inst.gpt' which forces the Fedora 26
>Anaconda installer to recognize a drive as a GPT drive for the purposes of
>the Anaconda installer setting up the drive with a GPT partition table.
> 
>[1]https://rhinstaller.github.io/anaconda/boot-options.html#inst-gpt
> 
>Could this somehow be added to Ubiquity as this option is useful for

Ubiquity is the Ubuntu installer.

It has been a while since I did a fresh Debian install, but the Debian
Installer Manual [0] says:

The latter becomes important when booting debian-installer on a UEFI
system with CSM because debian-installer checks whether it was
started on a BIOS- or on a native UEFI system and installs the
corresponding bootloader.

That seems to indicate that you should not even have to tell the Debian
installer, as it will detect whether to use GPT or not.

Regards,

-Roberto

[0] https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/install.txt.en
-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez



Fedora has a boot option that forces the installer to recognize a drive as GPT, can this be added to Debians installer?

2018-02-22 Thread Indo Neh
There is a boot option in Fedora 'inst.gpt' which forces the Fedora 26
Anaconda installer to recognize a drive as a GPT drive for the purposes of
the Anaconda installer setting up the drive with a GPT partition table.

https://rhinstaller.github.io/anaconda/boot-options.html#inst-gpt

Could this somehow be added to Ubiquity as this option is useful for anyone
who wants to set up a drive on a BIOS-based system as a GPT drive without
having to manually partition the drive after manually setting it as GPT? It
makes the automated drive setup (e.g. encrypted LVM setup) very easy and
painless.
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