On 12/14/2010 08:21 AM, Claudius Hubig wrote:
godogo...@dobosevic.com wrote:
Strange, in Opera 10.63 I get the full URL in the address bar; and, if I
hover the mouse pointer over the link, I also get the full URL in the
status bar at the bottom of the screen.
Is there a change in Opera 11?
what about Opera.. just asking :)
Opera is ok except one future I really don't like and it will be in
Firefox4 also.
When I open goole.com, type debian and go to page 10 I will not see in
URL feeld
http://www.google.hr/search?q=debianhl=hrprmd=ivlei=MYQGTbmtD4iYOuGc6aYBstart=90sa=N;
but
Linux Desktop Enviroments need to stop trying to compete to impress
microsoft users and N00b's and stick to what Linux is all about,
clean, efficient, FAST! If people really feel they NEED desktop
widgets either make it add on software or make a third party desktop
environment based off the
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 21:46 +0100, godo wrote:
Opera is ok except one future I really don't like and it will be in
Firefox4 also.
When I open goole.com, type debian and go to page 10 I will not see in
URL feeld
Strange, in Opera 10.63 I get the full URL in the address bar; and, if I
hover the mouse pointer over the link, I also get the full URL in the
status bar at the bottom of the screen.
Is there a change in Opera 11?
Yes, I have 11.0 beta:
Opera/9.80 (X11; Linux i686; U; en) Presto/2.7.39
On 12/13/2010 03:46 PM, godo wrote:
Opera is ok except one future I really don't like and it will be in
Firefox4 also.
When I open goole.com, type debian and go to page 10 I will not see in
URL feeld
http://www.google.hr/search?q=debianhl=hrprmd=ivlei=MYQGTbmtD4iYOuGc6aYBstart=90sa=N;
but
On 12/13/2010 11:34 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On 12/13/2010 03:46 PM, godo wrote:
Opera is ok except one future I really don't like and it will be in
Firefox4 also.
When I open goole.com, type debian and go to page 10 I will not see in
URL feeld
godo go...@dobosevic.com wrote:
Strange, in Opera 10.63 I get the full URL in the address bar; and, if I
hover the mouse pointer over the link, I also get the full URL in the
status bar at the bottom of the screen.
Is there a change in Opera 11?
Yes, I have 11.0 beta:
Opera/9.80 (X11;
08/12/2010 06:46, Miles Bader wrote:
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:
Mozilla products are memory/CPU hogs, yes. I hope newer versions can
correct that.
I find that chromium actually seems to use _more_ memory for a given
amount of content.
However with chromium it's really easy to
On 12/08/2010 03:44 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
Overall chromium has a small edge, but not very noticeable here. I use
both happily anyway !
what about Opera.. just asking :)
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On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Paul Cartwright deb...@pcartwright.com wrote:
On 12/08/2010 03:44 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
Overall chromium has a small edge, but not very noticeable here. I use
both happily anyway !
what about Opera.. just asking :)
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08/12/2010 14:46, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On 12/08/2010 03:44 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
Overall chromium has a small edge, but not very noticeable here. I use
both happily anyway !
what about Opera.. just asking :)
Well, what about it then ? ;-)
I don't use Opera since aptitude
On 12/08/2010 04:29 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
Opera is slower when loading the same tabs set, especially heavy flash
content. On the good side it showed the best behaviour when it comes to
java applet test (a secure bank login applet), but consumed crazy
amounts of memory in this
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:
Mozilla products are memory/CPU hogs, yes. I hope newer versions can
correct that.
I find that chromium actually seems to use _more_ memory for a given
amount of content.
However with chromium it's really easy to reduce the usage by closing
tabs; with FF
On 11/21/2010 08:02 PM, Celejar wrote:
[snip]
My policy, for stability and privacy, is to run two instances of FF.
Using this?
$ iceweasel -no-remote -P secondprofilename
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On 11/18/2010 11:37 PM, Dan Serban wrote:
[snip]
I now have chromium and claws at my beck and call. Man.. are they
ever fast.
So, how effective are ABP and Flashblock? I read once that the
Chrome ABP doesn't actually *block* ads from loading but simply
prevents them from being displayed.
On 23 November 2010 19:13, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
So, how effective are ABP and Flashblock? I read once that the Chrome ABP
doesn't actually *block* ads from loading but simply prevents them from
being displayed.
That was the case some time ago, but according to the plugin
On 11/23/2010 06:13 AM, Ron Johnson wrote:
Also, anyone with experience with these plugins (which *I* consider
essential, though some may find heresy)?
acroread
Java
MozPlugger
OOo
Flash 10.0r45
Silverlight 3.0.4x
VLC
are you talking about Firefox or Chromium? in my
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 05:13:53 -0600
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
On 11/18/2010 11:37 PM, Dan Serban wrote:
[snip]
I now have chromium and claws at my beck and call. Man.. are they
ever fast.
So, how effective are ABP and Flashblock? I read once that the
Chrome ABP
On 2010-11-18 21:37:32 -0800, Dan Serban wrote:
I now have chromium and claws at my beck and call. Man.. are they
ever fast.
But Chromium (actually WebKit) is broken. For instance, it can't parse
http://www.vinc17.net/
I ported the upstream patch to Debian at the end of August[*], but
the
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 04:54:49 -0600
Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
On 11/21/2010 08:02 PM, Celejar wrote:
[snip]
My policy, for stability and privacy, is to run two instances of FF.
Using this?
$ iceweasel -no-remote -P secondprofilename
Exactly (with an at the end ;)).
From
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:29:31 +0800
Jason Heeris jason.hee...@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 November 2010 19:13, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote:
So, how effective are ABP and Flashblock? I read once that the Chrome ABP
doesn't actually *block* ads from loading but simply prevents them from
Dne, 23. 11. 2010 15:00:59 je Celejar napisal(a):
I use Privoxy - not as user friendly as the plugins, but it will work
across all your browsers, is much more powerful (IIUC), and has no
risk
of increasing browser bloat or instability, or becoming incompatible
with future browser versions.
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 14:55, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
Example, Lxde doesn't have the bloat of KDE4, but is still running ontop
of the same core enviroment of the KDE system native to the OS, (e.g.
Lxde in squeeze has the same underlying and crappy menu and
configuration systems
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:22:49 +0100
Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote:
Dne, 23. 11. 2010 15:00:59 je Celejar napisal(a):
I use Privoxy - not as user friendly as the plugins, but it will work
across all your browsers, is much more powerful (IIUC), and has no
risk
of increasing
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:59:18 -0800
Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote:
...
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 18:02, Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote:
...
My policy, for stability and privacy, is to run two instances of FF.
My main one has no scripting allowed (NoScript with basically no
On 2010-11-23, Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote:
Dne, 23. 11. 2010 15:00:59 je Celejar napisal(a):
I use Privoxy - not as user friendly as the plugins, but it will work
across all your browsers, is much more powerful (IIUC), and has no
risk
of increasing browser bloat or instability,
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:21:23 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:13:24 -0500, Celejar wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:03:44 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote:
Mozilla products are memory/CPU hogs, yes. I hope newer versions can
correct that.
I often
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:37:32 -0800
Dan Serban dser...@lodgingcompany.com wrote:
I now have chromium and claws at my beck and call. Man.. are they
ever fast.
I assume you are referring to claws-mail ?
claws-mail is fantastic, I would like to encourage others to give it a
try. Fast and
On 11/21/2010 09:56 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
claws-mail is fantastic, I would like to encourage others to give it a
try. Fast and powerful.
I have installed claws-mail to try it out - now there's the question
regarding exporting the mail from Thunderbird3 to claws. I've googled
about it
On 21/11/10 10:19, Matthias Andersson wrote:
On 11/21/2010 09:56 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
claws-mail is fantastic, I would like to encourage others to give it a
try. Fast and powerful.
I have installed claws-mail to try it out - now there's the question
regarding exporting the mail
2010/11/20 Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt:
I've read nice stuff about dillo (which rendering engine?),
but haven't tried it.
It uses it's own rendering engine, which is very limited
compared to the big 4 (modern Gecko, Webkit, Presto
and Trident).
Cheers,
Kelly Clowers
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On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:45, Alan Chandler a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk wrote:
My machine
is an older desktop with only 1 Gb of RAM
Have big applications like office suites, internet browsers and the
like added so many more features that a mere 1GB of RAM doesn't
suffice?! Isn't Web2.0's
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 11:56:49PM -0800, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
claws-mail is fantastic, I would like to encourage others to give it a
try. Fast and powerful.
Brian
Since this thread has started I decided to give claws a go. From what I've
messed with so far it seems nice. I would
gone...
STOP LETTING N00b's DEFINE OUR OS!
Okay, I'm done...
-Original Message-
From: Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 18:42:01
To: debian-userDebian-User@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Frustration made me do it.
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:45, Alan
On Du, 21 nov 10, 12:19:56, Matthias Andersson wrote:
On 11/21/2010 09:56 AM, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
claws-mail is fantastic, I would like to encourage others to give it a
try. Fast and powerful.
I have installed claws-mail to try it out - now there's the question
regarding exporting
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 20:20:39 +
teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:
...
Linux Desktop Enviroments need to stop trying to compete to impress
microsoft users and N00b's and stick to what Linux is all about,
clean, efficient, FAST!
Why? Linux can (and does) do both... and quite well.
If
Below...
If people really feel they NEED desktop
widgets either make it add on software or make a third party desktop
environment based off the main environment. The way it is now KDE and
Gnome, the two biggest are competing for 'most bloat award' and the
sleek fast environments like lxde
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 00:35:37 +
Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt wrote:
...
I use Iceweasel with ADP and NoScript and that's it. Sometimes i get
in trouble with flash-sites and sometimes my cpu will spike 'cos of
some tab, but i think it's the most all-round browser i have. I'll use
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:09:05 -0600
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
In 20101120185835.2915d9d3.cele...@gmail.com, Celejar wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:26:43 -0600
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
Much of the memory usage can be blamed on aggressive
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:04, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Vi, 19 nov 10, 05:49:13, Kelly Clowers wrote:
Haven't switched to IMAP yet, still on Gmail at this point.
And what's the problem? I use Gmail via IMAP just fine.
I use Gmail for the UI and the Search. Otherwise
On Vi, 19 nov 10, 22:21:59, Robert Blair Mason Jr. wrote:
I thought I was alone in this, I've also ditched Iceweasel. I've
found claws-mail to be just fine, and have recently dropped Gnome and
replaced it with xfce. Gnome has grown fat and sluggish
sed s/xfce/lxde/
+1, and also
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 00:45, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
unfortunately s/wicd/network-manager/ :(
yuck
Cheers,
Kelly Clowers
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Dan Serban wrote:
I will spare you the minute details for my decision, but I assume
most of you experience the same frustrations I do. The increasing
bloat, the never enough memory (16gb real, 32gb swap) being happily
claimed by a single tab and xul-runner eating it all.
I use FF only,
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:26:43 -0600
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
In 20101119161324.2ed2f1a8.cele...@gmail.com, Celejar wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:03:44 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:37:32 -0800, Dan Serban wrote:
After
In 20101120185835.2915d9d3.cele...@gmail.com, Celejar wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:26:43 -0600
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
Much of the memory usage can be blamed on aggressive per-tab caching of
webpages and/or extensions or plugins. Still, I find FF to cause me more
I often wonder about this; IIRC, FF used to advertise itself as
lightweight. Does it still do that? Was it ever accurate?
It was lighter that the Mozilla suite that it replaced. It was similar
technology, but just a browser. It lacked the HTML editing abilities, the
mail and
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 00:09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
b...@iguanasuicide.net wrote:
There are other WebKit-based browsers besides Chromium out there and there are
other Gecko-based browsers besides FireFox / IceWeasel out there. By
experimenting you may find one that is less bad for you than
Message-
From: Sthu Deus sthu.d...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 21:50:11
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Frustration made me do it.
Dan Serban wrote:
I will spare you the minute details for my decision, but I assume
most of you experience the same frustrations I do
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:37:32 -0800, Dan Serban wrote:
After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
Firefox, then falling in love with iceweasel. Today, sad as it is, is
when I feel that I must
On Jo, 18 nov 10, 21:37:32, Dan Serban wrote:
I now have chromium and claws at my beck and call. Man.. are they
ever fast.
While I like claws mail, last time I looked at it it was lacking IMAP
IDLE support.
I would be interested to switch away from iceweasel if there was
something like
Dne, 19. 11. 2010 06:37:32 je Dan Serban napisal(a):
Icedove likes to make my computer behave like a 386 (downloading
and indexing millions of IMAP messages..
Erm ... isn't that what computing is all about? I mean, if you look
closer, some programmers think that their mission won't be
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:37:32 -0800
Dan Serban dser...@lodgingcompany.com wrote:
After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
Firefox, then falling in love with iceweasel. Today, sad as it is,
is when
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:18:43 +, Angus Hedger wrote:
Claw mail is pretty dam fast, I havent bothered to learn the search
function very well yet, but meh.
And with the right plugins, from the repo, it does HTML email, and RSS
like a champion. (and pgp of cause)
Can you expand that
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:27:01 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:18:43 +, Angus Hedger wrote:
Claw mail is pretty dam fast, I havent bothered to learn the search
function very well yet, but meh.
And with the right plugins, from the repo, it does
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:45:29 +, Angus Hedger wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:27:01 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote:
And with the right plugins, from the repo, it does HTML email, and
RSS like a champion. (and pgp of cause)
Can you expand that information?
It views well, but cant write,
On Vi, 19 nov 10, 11:05:53, Camaleón wrote:
Damn! Yes, I need sending/resending/forwarding those fancy e-mails that
annoy some people :-)
Forwarding as attachment might work...
Regards,
Andrei
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:10:53 +0200
Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Vi, 19 nov 10, 11:05:53, Camaleón wrote:
Damn! Yes, I need sending/resending/forwarding those fancy e-mails
that annoy some people :-)
Forwarding as attachment might work...
As far as I know,
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:10:53 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
On Vi, 19 nov 10, 11:05:53, Camaleón wrote:
Damn! Yes, I need sending/resending/forwarding those fancy e-mails that
annoy some people :-)
Forwarding as attachment might work...
Yep, but that only covers the third part of my
On Sex, 19 Nov 2010, Dan Serban wrote:
After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
Firefox, then falling in love with iceweasel. Today, sad as it is,
is when I feel that I must announce that I decided
On 11/19/2010 03:03 AM, Camaleón wrote:
Icedove 3.x has an option to tell do not index e-mails. Not sure how it
goes because I'm still with 2.x branch.
edit-preferences-Advanced- uncheck Enable Global Search and indexer
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 11:25:11 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
Yep, but that only covers the third part of my perverse
needings }:-)
We all have our guilty pleasures! ;)
Besides, I still need forwarding inline.
Greetings,
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On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 08:03:44AM +, Camale?n wrote:
I have to stick with Icedove because is one of the two MUAs I know that
can handle html e-mails in Linux. The second is Evolution, but I think is
even slower than Icedove.
Mutt works great.
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On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 21:37, Dan Serban dser...@lodgingcompany.com wrote:
After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
Firefox, then falling in love with iceweasel. Today, sad as it is,
is when I
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 03:26, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
edua...@kalinowski.com.br wrote:
On 19 Nov 2010, Dan Serban wrote:
snip
Just thought I'd make some noise and share, I feel so free. \o/
Thanks for the heads up but you can, you know, just delete packages without
having to inform anyone
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:31:29 -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 08:03:44AM +, Camale?n wrote:
I have to stick with Icedove because is one of the two MUAs I know that
can handle html e-mails in Linux. The second is Evolution, but I think
is even slower than Icedove.
Mutt
On 19/11/10 05:37, Dan Serban wrote:
After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
Firefox, then falling in love with iceweasel. Today, sad as it is,
is when I feel that I must announce that I decided to:
On Fri, November 19, 2010 11:26 am, Michal wrote:
Funnily, on the Windows 7 boxes I have I chucked Firefox for IE9 64bit
Betas. The speed increase I get is MASSIVE. Missing some addon's which
annoys me, but it's better then the constant problems I see with Firefox
You should be comparing to
On Vi, 19 nov 10, 05:49:13, Kelly Clowers wrote:
Haven't switched to IMAP yet, still on Gmail at this point.
And what's the problem? I use Gmail via IMAP just fine.
Regards,
Andrei
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On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:03:44 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:37:32 -0800, Dan Serban wrote:
After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
Firefox, then falling
Mozilla products are memory/CPU hogs, yes. I hope newer versions can
correct that.
I often wonder about this; IIRC, FF used to advertise itself as
lightweight. Does it still do that? Was it ever accurate?
Maybe at version 1.0...but it just seems to become more and more bloated
with
In 20101119161324.2ed2f1a8.cele...@gmail.com, Celejar wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:03:44 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 21:37:32 -0800, Dan Serban wrote:
After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
refresh a POST document in
On 11/19/2010 04:23 PM, Petrus Validus wrote:
Mozilla products are memory/CPU hogs, yes. I hope newer versions can
correct that.
I often wonder about this; IIRC, FF used to advertise itself as
lightweight. Does it still do that? Was it ever accurate?
Maybe at version 1.0...but it just
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:13:24 -0500, Celejar wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:03:44 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote:
Mozilla products are memory/CPU hogs, yes. I hope newer versions can
correct that.
I often wonder about this; IIRC, FF used to advertise itself as
lightweight. Does it still do
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:46:11 +0200
Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jo, 18 nov 10, 21:37:32, Dan Serban wrote:
I now have chromium and claws at my beck and call. Man.. are they
ever fast.
While I like claws mail, last time I looked at it it was lacking IMAP
IDLE
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:26:52 +
Michal mic...@sharescope.co.uk wrote:
On 19/11/10 05:37, Dan Serban wrote:
After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
--snipp
Just thought I'd make
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:20:21 -0500 john j...@jabberblog.ca shared
this with us all:
I thought I was alone in this, I've also ditched Iceweasel. I've
found claws-mail to be just fine,
I also thought this, have dumped Iceweasel, finally got fed up, and
have used claws-mail for quite a long time
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 13:20:21 -0500
john j...@jabberblog.ca wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 16:26:52 +
Michal mic...@sharescope.co.uk wrote:
On 19/11/10 05:37, Dan Serban wrote:
After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?)
After years of running the mozilla suite (remember when you couldn't
refresh a POST document in mozilla 0.6?) and begrudgingly moving to
Firefox, then falling in love with iceweasel. Today, sad as it is,
is when I feel that I must announce that I decided to:
# aptitude purge iceweasel icedove
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