Re: Gnome-terminal in Mate, How? (more info. and questions)

2015-06-25 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Wed, 2015-06-24 at 19:33 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
 
 What is a shortcut in the context of Mate/Gnome?
 No errors are reported to me the user. 

So how do you launch gnome-terminal? What happens when you open mate
-terminal and type gnome-terminal?

I don't use MATE, but I'm sure there is documentation and hits on
Google for adding custom shortcuts to the menu, or keyboard shortcuts
if you prefer.

 
  You might also try removing the mate terminal and setting gnome
  -terminal as the default.
 
 I don't know how to remove mate terminal or how to set gnome
 -terminal
 as default. That is a rephrasing of my original question. ;-) 

Well, uninstall the mate-terminal package, set up gnome-terminal as the
default x-terminal with the Debian alternatives system.

Some Googling suggests MATE will try to launch mate-terminal then
fallback to x-terminal-emulator (from alternatives).


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Re: Gnome-terminal in Mate, How? (more info. and questions)

2015-06-25 Thread Paul E Condon
I looked at my post. I didn't like the words that I saw.
I do need to study Mate documentation
Please accept my appology.
Thanks for your help.
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Re: Gnome-terminal in Mate, How?

2015-06-24 Thread tomas
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On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 02:38:17PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
 I'm running Jessie with Mate as desktop GUI. I notice that Mate
 terminal, which I use a lot, is very similar in function to
 Gnome-terminal. But Mate terminal does not have the function of
 repainting the text in a window when the window is resized.

This potentially sounds like a bug: can you explain it a little
more (I have the feeling I didn't understand exactly what you
are describing)?

Thanks
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Re: Gnome-terminal in Mate, How?

2015-06-24 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 14:38 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
 I'm running Jessie with Mate as desktop GUI. I notice that Mate
 terminal, which I use a lot, is very similar in function to
 Gnome-terminal. But Mate terminal does not have the function of
 repainting the text in a window when the window is resized. This is
 available when I run gnome-terminal under Xfce4. How can I get that
 feature in Mate? I already have Gnome-terminal installed and it
 works when I boot into Xfce4, but I can't invoke it when I am
 running Mate. Is this a feature, or a bug?

It looks like Mate is hard-coded to use it's own terminal, at least
from the menus, but you should have no trouble launching gnome
-terminal, either from a shortcut or from an existing terminal. Do you
get any errors?

You might also try removing the mate terminal and setting gnome
-terminal as the default.

Anyway, I thought the mate terminal was just a fork of the gnome one,
so if it can't repaint it's probably a bug.

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Re: Gnome-terminal in Mate, How?

2015-06-24 Thread songbird
Sven Arvidsson wrote:
...
 Anyway, I thought the mate terminal was just a fork of the gnome one,
 so if it can't repaint it's probably a bug.

  i used gnome-terminal some time ago while running Mate
and i don't recall there being any problem other than 
having to set up a menu entry for it.


  songbird


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Re: Gnome-terminal in Mate, How?

2015-06-24 Thread gianluca

On 06/24/2015 09:08 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

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On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 02:38:17PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:

I'm running Jessie with Mate as desktop GUI. I notice that Mate
terminal, which I use a lot, is very similar in function to
Gnome-terminal. But Mate terminal does not have the function of
repainting the text in a window when the window is resized.


This potentially sounds like a bug: can you explain it a little
more (I have the feeling I didn't understand exactly what you
are describing)?




I am using Jessie in two PowerPC (G4 and QuadCore G5) machines with MATE 
and I do not recall anything like that. Maybe a videocard issue? 
Compositor??


My systems are:
- PowerPC G4 Laptop Powerbook @1.5Ghz with ATI Technologies Radeon 9700 
Mobility


- PowerPC G5 QuadCore @2.5Ghz with NVIDIA GeForce 6600 with 256MB of 
GDDR SDRAM, one single-link DVI port, and one dual-link DVI port


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Re: Gnome-terminal in Mate, How?

2015-06-24 Thread Martin Read

On 24/06/15 10:51, Sven Arvidsson wrote:

Anyway, I thought the mate terminal was just a fork of the gnome one,
so if it can't repaint it's probably a bug.


Mate terminal is a fork of GNOME 2's gnome-terminal; the gnome-terminal 
package in Debian jessie is GNOME *3*'s gnome-terminal.


But yes, any failure-to-repaint sounds like a pretty clear-cut bug in 
*something*, though it might not be in the expected place.



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Re: Gnome-terminal in Mate, How? (more info. and questions)

2015-06-24 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20150624_1151+0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
 On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 14:38 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
  I'm running Jessie with Mate as desktop GUI. I notice that Mate
  terminal, which I use a lot, is very similar in function to
  Gnome-terminal. But Mate terminal does not have the function of
  repainting the text in a window when the window is resized. This is
  available when I run gnome-terminal under Xfce4. How can I get that
  feature in Mate? I already have Gnome-terminal installed and it
  works when I boot into Xfce4, but I can't invoke it when I am
  running Mate. Is this a feature, or a bug?
 
 It looks like Mate is hard-coded to use it's own terminal, at least
 from the menus, but you should have no trouble launching gnome
 -terminal, either from a shortcut or from an existing terminal. Do you
 get any errors?
What is a shortcut in the context of Mate/Gnome?
No errors are reported to me the user. 


 
 You might also try removing the mate terminal and setting gnome
 -terminal as the default.

I don't know how to remove mate terminal or how to set gnome-terminal
as default. That is a rephrasing of my original question. ;-) 

 
 Anyway, I thought the mate terminal was just a fork of the gnome one,
  
  me too.
 so if it can't repaint it's probably a bug.
 ^^^ well maybe there is
 some F-key magic that I don't know about...

The repaint of text that I want is done by Bash and is already specified
in my $HOME/.bashrc AND it works correctly in an Xfce4 boot.

My current setup is:

Jessie, and both MATE and Xfce4 tasks are installed. I select one or
the other at boot-up. The real Gnome-terminal is installed and works
properly when I run Xfce4. But I don't actually know which version of
Gnome the terminal comes from. Aptitude points to Jessie with no
pinning or other fancy stuff.

I can get Gnome-terminal/Bash repaint if I open Gnome-terminal
inside the Mate-terminal window. But that is not a solution, that is data
collection for filing a bug report.


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Gnome-terminal in Mate, How?

2015-06-23 Thread Paul E Condon
I'm running Jessie with Mate as desktop GUI. I notice that Mate
terminal, which I use a lot, is very similar in function to
Gnome-terminal. But Mate terminal does not have the function of
repainting the text in a window when the window is resized. This is
available when I run gnome-terminal under Xfce4. How can I get that
feature in Mate? I already have Gnome-terminal installed and it
works when I boot into Xfce4, but I can't invoke it when I am
running Mate. Is this a feature, or a bug?

I like it a lot.
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