Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-14 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Douglas Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Dec 14 06:07 -0600]: Package management is the cornerstone to Debian. The individual packages are installed by dpkg but how they're selected, managed, and have their dependancies resolved is the job of a package manager (that then run dpkg on each

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-14 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 06:23:38AM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: * Douglas Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Dec 14 06:07 -0600]: Package management is the cornerstone to Debian. The individual packages are installed by dpkg but how they're selected, managed, and have their dependancies

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-14 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:52:50PM -0600, Kent West wrote: Douglas Tutty wrote: The biggest thing I've learned is to install things a bit at a time; I'd agree with that. Lets say you choose aptitude, then you install that ... Then I install mc followed by lynx. Then ... documentation

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-14 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 08:14:58AM -0500, Douglas Tutty wrote: On Wed, Dec 13, 2006 at 11:52:50PM -0600, Kent West wrote: Douglas Tutty wrote: The biggest thing I've learned is to install things a bit at a time; I'd agree with that. Lets say you choose aptitude, then you install

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-13 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 07:08:14PM +, andy wrote: Hi all I'm new to Debian - having run Slackware solidly since 8.1 I have become used to particular ways of maintaining my machine and also became used to a certasin belt--braces mentality. I loved Slackware, found tremendous respect for

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-13 Thread Kent West
Douglas Tutty wrote: The biggest thing I've learned is to install things a bit at a time; I'd agree with that. Lets say you choose aptitude, then you install that ... Then I install mc followed by lynx. Then ... documentation packages ... [then] exim4, mailx, mutt, and fetchmail The

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 11 Dec 2006, andy wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 09:48:18PM +, andy wrote: Am wondering how I go about getting mplayer and adobe acrobat? Any steers? mplayer is in unstable, but I don't know about etch. You can also get it, along with

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-12 Thread andy
Anthony Campbell wrote: On 11 Dec 2006, andy wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 09:48:18PM +, andy wrote: Am wondering how I go about getting mplayer and adobe acrobat? Any steers? mplayer is in unstable, but I don't know about etch. You can also

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-12 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 17:10 -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: I would probably expunge mplayer from my systems except for all the .wmv files people like to send. :-| Keep an eye on future upgrades, most players uses ffmpeg but not all are updated (xine, gstreamer-ffmpeg etc.) to include the recent

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-12 Thread Kent West
andy wrote: Thanks for your welcomes and recommendations. I look forward to getting to know the new system. As I said I am very impressed, although a bit confused too as I learn my way around. I haven't used Gnome since RH 7.2 preferring XFce throughout my Slackware days, so I am becoming

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-12 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 12 December 2006 06:45, Re: andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Thanks for your welcomes and recommendations. I look forward to getting to know the new system. As I said I am very impressed, although a bit confused too as I learn

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-12 Thread hendrik
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 09:24:53AM -0500, Curt Howland wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 12 December 2006 06:45, Re: andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: I haven't used Gnome since RH 7.2 preferring XFce throughout my Slackware days, so I am

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-12 Thread Greg Folkert
On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 19:08 +, andy wrote: Hi all I'm new to Debian - having run Slackware solidly since 8.1 I have become used to particular ways of maintaining my machine and also became used to a certasin belt--braces mentality. I loved Slackware, found tremendous respect for the

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-12 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 12 December 2006 20:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: And gdm even lets you choose your window manager before you log in! kdm also does, which is what I use. Usually I use KDE, unless I'm on my backup machine in which case I use

Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread andy
Hi all I'm new to Debian - having run Slackware solidly since 8.1 I have become used to particular ways of maintaining my machine and also became used to a certasin belt--braces mentality. I loved Slackware, found tremendous respect for the stable way Pat Volkerding put it together and

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread Peter Colton
hello andy, A document that is very handy Debian Reference apt-get install debian-reference-en link for file brower : /usr/share/doc/Debian/reference/reference.en.html regards : peter colton On Monday 11 December 2006 19:08, andy wrote: Hi all I'm new to Debian

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread andy
Peter Colton wrote: hello andy, A document that is very handy Debian Reference apt-get install debian-reference-en link for file brower : /usr/share/doc/Debian/reference/reference.en.html regards : peter colton On Monday 11 December 2006 19:08, andy wrote: Hi

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
congrats andy and welcome! On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 07:48:13PM +, andy wrote: Debian Etch brings the user. This is *so* very cool. word to the wise. do some reading and get a knowledge of the differences between etch and testing and stable and tracking the various flavors of deb. As you are

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 07:08:14PM +, andy wrote: Hi all I'm new to Debian - having run Slackware solidly since 8.1 I have become Hi Andy, welcome to Debian. as of today the next stable release 'etch' has gone into 'freeze', this is the last stage before it is released as 'stable'. So, if

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 19:08 +, andy wrote: I am still on a very steep learning curve, so would welcome anyone's steer in terms of learning how to optimise my system and good documentation for a Debian-n00b. I'm not sure what kind of docs you're looking for, but I suggest you check out

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread andy
Sven Arvidsson wrote: On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 19:08 +, andy wrote: I am still on a very steep learning curve, so would welcome anyone's steer in terms of learning how to optimise my system and good documentation for a Debian-n00b. I'm not sure what kind of docs you're looking for,

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread andy
Kevin Mark wrote: On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 07:08:14PM +, andy wrote: Hi all I'm new to Debian - having run Slackware solidly since 8.1 I have become Hi Andy, welcome to Debian. as of today the next stable release 'etch' has gone into 'freeze', this is the last stage before it is

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 09:48:18PM +, andy wrote: Am wondering how I go about getting mplayer and adobe acrobat? Any steers? mplayer is in unstable, but I don't know about etch. You can also get it, along with various codecs of questionable legality from www.debian-multimedia.org. I

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 09:48:18PM +, andy wrote: Am wondering how I go about getting mplayer and adobe acrobat? Any steers? Debian has very strong rules about free software (read the DFSG) so you won't find these in the official repositories. You must add this to /etc/apt/sources.list deb

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread andy
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 09:48:18PM +, andy wrote: Am wondering how I go about getting mplayer and adobe acrobat? Any steers? mplayer is in unstable, but I don't know about etch. You can also get it, along with various codecs of questionable legality

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread Nate Bargmann
Welcome! I too started with Slackware some ten years ago or so and in '99 started with Debian Slink, 2.1 and quickly moved to Potato, 2.2, when it was released. You will quickly discover the Debian Way to system administration. Debconf helps a lot amd packages generally have sensible defaults

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread Nate Bargmann
* andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006 Dec 11 15:50 -0600]: Am wondering how I go about getting mplayer and adobe acrobat? Any steers? I've found that kpdf of KDE does a good job with PDFs. Only infrequently does Acrobat do a better job. I would probably expunge mplayer from my systems except for all

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 12:48:30AM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Mon, Dec 11, 2006 at 09:48:18PM +, andy wrote: Am wondering how I go about getting mplayer and adobe acrobat? Any steers? Debian has very strong rules about free software (read the DFSG) so you won't find these in the

Re: Greetings and a minor rave!!

2006-12-11 Thread John W. Foster
On Monday 11 December 2006 01:08 pm, andy wrote: Hi all I'm new to Debian - having run Slackware solidly since 8.1 I have become used to particular ways of maintaining my machine and also became used to a certasin belt--braces mentality. I loved Slackware, found