Has Wine been removed from Debian?

2013-07-18 Thread David Guntner 
Running 6.0.7.  This morning, I did an aptitude update, followed by:

 # aptitude safe-upgrade
 Resolving dependencies...
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   libwine{u} libwine-alsa{u} libwine-cms{u} libwine-gl{u} libwine-gphoto2{u} 
 libwine-ldap{u} libwine-print{u}
   libwine-sane{u} wine{u} wine-bin{u} wine-utils{u}
 The following packages will be upgraded:
   libapache2-mod-php5 libpoppler-glib4 libpoppler-qt4-3 libpoppler5 php5-cli 
 php5-common playonlinux poppler-utils
 8 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 11 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
 Need to get 12.8 MB of archives. After unpacking 53.0 MB will be freed.
 Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]

What gives?  Has Wine been removed from the distribution?  Just
wondering.  I don't really use it, and since I use Playonlinux for what
little Wine-based stuff I dork around with (which will download and
install various versions of Wine under your home directory), I'm not
that worried.  But I did think it kind of odd that aptitude now wants to
remove it.

  --Dave




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Re: Has Wine been removed from Debian?

2013-07-18 Thread David Guntner 
David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 Running 6.0.7.  This morning, I did an aptitude update, followed by:
 
 # aptitude safe-upgrade
 Resolving dependencies...
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   libwine{u} libwine-alsa{u} libwine-cms{u} libwine-gl{u} libwine-gphoto2{u} 
 libwine-ldap{u} libwine-print{u}
   libwine-sane{u} wine{u} wine-bin{u} wine-utils{u}
 The following packages will be upgraded:
   libapache2-mod-php5 libpoppler-glib4 libpoppler-qt4-3 libpoppler5 php5-cli 
 php5-common playonlinux poppler-utils
 8 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 11 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
 Need to get 12.8 MB of archives. After unpacking 53.0 MB will be freed.
 Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]
 
 What gives?  Has Wine been removed from the distribution?  Just
 wondering.  I don't really use it, and since I use Playonlinux for what
 little Wine-based stuff I dork around with (which will download and
 install various versions of Wine under your home directory), I'm not
 that worried.  But I did think it kind of odd that aptitude now wants to
 remove it.

Well, heck.  I just noticed that one of the things being upgraded is the
afore-mentioned Playonlinux.  Maybe there's something about that package
upgrade that decided to remove the system-wide Wine since it'll work
with the version(s) of Wine it will install for you.

Sorry for the list clutter. :-)

  --Dave





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Re: Has Wine been removed from Debian?

2013-07-18 Thread Jochen Spieker 
David Guntner:

 Running 6.0.7.  This morning, I did an aptitude update, followed by:
 
 # aptitude safe-upgrade
 Resolving dependencies...
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   libwine{u} libwine-alsa{u} libwine-cms{u} libwine-gl{u} libwine-gphoto2{u} 
 libwine-ldap{u} libwine-print{u}
   libwine-sane{u} wine{u} wine-bin{u} wine-utils{u}

Wow. So much for the safe in safe-upgrade. Looks like a reason to
ditch aptitude.

And, just BTW: even if a package is removed from Debian's repositories,
that doesn't mean apt(itude) automatically removes it from your system.
That would be really horrible behaviour.

J.
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Re: Has Wine been removed from Debian?

2013-07-18 Thread David Guntner 
Jochen Spieker grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 David Guntner:

 Running 6.0.7.  This morning, I did an aptitude update, followed by:

 # aptitude safe-upgrade
 Resolving dependencies...
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   libwine{u} libwine-alsa{u} libwine-cms{u} libwine-gl{u} 
 libwine-gphoto2{u} libwine-ldap{u} libwine-print{u}
   libwine-sane{u} wine{u} wine-bin{u} wine-utils{u}
 
 Wow. So much for the safe in safe-upgrade. Looks like a reason to
 ditch aptitude.
 
 And, just BTW: even if a package is removed from Debian's repositories,
 that doesn't mean apt(itude) automatically removes it from your system.
 That would be really horrible behaviour.

Hopefully, by now you'll have read my followup to myself. :-)  I think
it may be related to the Playonlinux package, for reasons mentioned there.

And aptitude works just fine. :-)

 --Dave




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Re: Has Wine been removed from Debian?

2013-07-18 Thread Sven Joachim 
On 2013-07-18 17:38 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote:

 David Guntner:

 Running 6.0.7.  This morning, I did an aptitude update, followed by:
 
 # aptitude safe-upgrade
 Resolving dependencies...
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   libwine{u} libwine-alsa{u} libwine-cms{u} libwine-gl{u} 
 libwine-gphoto2{u} libwine-ldap{u} libwine-print{u}
   libwine-sane{u} wine{u} wine-bin{u} wine-utils{u}

 Wow. So much for the safe in safe-upgrade. Looks like a reason to
 ditch aptitude.

Absolutely not, the correct thing is to run aptitude unmarkauto wine.
Removing unused packages automatically is usually what you want.

 And, just BTW: even if a package is removed from Debian's repositories,
 that doesn't mean apt(itude) automatically removes it from your system.
 That would be really horrible behaviour.

Right.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: Has Wine been removed from Debian?

2013-07-18 Thread David Guntner 
Sven Joachim grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 
 Absolutely not, the correct thing is to run aptitude unmarkauto wine.
 Removing unused packages automatically is usually what you want.

Thanks for that - handy information to have for future reference!

 --Dave





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Re: Has Wine been removed from Debian?

2013-07-18 Thread Jérôme Heil 

Hi,

Le 18/07/2013 16:53, David Guntner a écrit :

Running 6.0.7.  This morning, I did an aptitude update, followed by:


# aptitude safe-upgrade
Resolving dependencies...
The following packages will be REMOVED:
   libwine{u} libwine-alsa{u} libwine-cms{u} libwine-gl{u} libwine-gphoto2{u} 
libwine-ldap{u} libwine-print{u}
   libwine-sane{u} wine{u} wine-bin{u} wine-utils{u}
{u} means that the wine package has been installed to resolve a 
dependency and now that this dependency is gone it wants to remove wine. 
To fix this you could do: aptitude unmarkauto wine. If you want to know 
why it is installed: aptitude why wine.


Cheers,
Jérôme


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Re: Has Wine been removed from Debian?

2013-07-18 Thread David Guntner 
Jérôme Heil grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 {u} means that the wine package has been installed to resolve a
 dependency and now that this dependency is gone it wants to remove wine.
 To fix this you could do: aptitude unmarkauto wine. If you want to know
 why it is installed: aptitude why wine.

AH!  Another good command to know about.  Thanks for that!  (*long*-time
*NIX  Linux user, but fairly new to Debian)

  --Dave





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Re: Has Wine been removed from Debian?

2013-07-18 Thread Jochen Spieker 
Sven Joachim:
 On 2013-07-18 17:38 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote:
 
 David Guntner:
 
 Running 6.0.7.  This morning, I did an aptitude update, followed by:
 
 # aptitude safe-upgrade
 Resolving dependencies...
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
   libwine{u} libwine-alsa{u} libwine-cms{u} libwine-gl{u} 
 libwine-gphoto2{u} libwine-ldap{u} libwine-print{u}
   libwine-sane{u} wine{u} wine-bin{u} wine-utils{u}
 
 Wow. So much for the safe in safe-upgrade. Looks like a reason to
 ditch aptitude.
 
 Absolutely not, the correct thing is to run aptitude unmarkauto wine.
 Removing unused packages automatically is usually what you want.

Thanks, you are right. I missed the {u} flags.

J.
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