Re: Hosting advice
On Saturday 02 Nov 2013 12:46:21 Igor Cicimov wrote: May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. Thanks, Craig I recommend gandi.net, been using their services for many years now. Very flexible all tech staff, USA data centres if you want. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2281034.FIQTjlzr9D@dragonfly
Re: Hosting advice
On Sat, 11/2/13, Simon Bell si...@calmblue.net wrote: Subject: Re: Hosting advice To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Saturday, November 2, 2013, 4:37 AM On Saturday 02 Nov 2013 12:46:21 Igor Cicimov wrote: May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. Thanks, Craig I use Canvas Dreams - http://www.canvasdreams.com/ - and have been very happy with their service including tech support. And environmentally friendly too! Canvas Dreams was the first Web host in the Pacific Northwest to use 100% wind power in the operation of our business. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1383405501.3798.yahoomailba...@web163402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Re: Hosting advice
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Craig L. cr...@gtek.biz wrote: Hello all, I have a good friend that is in a sticky situation and has turned to me for help. I'm not 100% sure of how to advise him so I figured I would pose our question here. He lives in Texas, in the USA. He is starting his own business, and a bit sooner than he planned. He has a domain registered to him. He needs to be able to set up email service asap, with an eye towards eventually setting up a web site for the operation. I know GoDaddy offers these types of services, but I'm not a big fan of GoDaddy. Since I will probably be the system administrator for a while, I would prefer a hosting service that offers a Linux OS, preferably Debian, and PostgreSQL or MySQL, again preferably PostgreSQL. May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. Thanks, Craig If you're in that kind of hurry, google can do some cool stuff for you, but they don't seem to be settled about what they provide. I've been using a combination of google apps and dyn.com's dynamic dns, but dyn changed their business model, too, and I can't freeload any more. (Sob, sniff.) Heh. Everybody seems to be in the process of changing their business models these days. What I did, and I think you can still do it with the paid stuff at google, was register a subdomain from dyn, mapped it (dynamic dns) to my personal server here at home, used that as my domain for google apps, and let google handle the mail. Dyn still does free subdomains, but the subdomain I was using is now premium. When my financial stuff settles down again, I'm probably going to become a paying customer at dyn. They do registrar stuff for the common top-level domains too, now. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43io73vvbqh_3mn+v4nhr7jscf3ft3f37megfmymtdoc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Hosting advice
On 10/31/2013 06:53 PM, Craig L. wrote: I have a good friend ... Consider https://www.linode.com/ Friends don't run a friend's server on Microsoft; nor do friends set up friend's email with Google. Regards, Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/527388d1.1040...@charter.net
Re: Hosting advice
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 08:06:57PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: On 10/31/2013 03:53 PM, Craig L. wrote: I have a good friend that is in a sticky situation and has turned to me for help. I'm not 100% sure of how to advise him so I figured I would pose our question here. He lives in Texas, in the USA. He is starting his own business, and a bit sooner than he planned. He has a domain registered to him. He needs to be able to set up email service asap, with an eye towards eventually setting up a web site for the operation. I know GoDaddy offers these types of services, but I'm not a big fan of GoDaddy. Since I will probably be the system administrator for a while, I would prefer a hosting service that offers a Linux OS, preferably Debian, and PostgreSQL or MySQL, again preferably PostgreSQL. May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. If you want a virtual private server (VPS), I had a good experience with a Linode: https://www.linode.com/ They offer several OS's, including Debian 6 and 7. I used Linode for a while, and they do have good service, but they're a bit pricey compared to what I have now. Currently I have a VPS on http://www.Contabo.com , with a lot more resources. 2gb ram, 4 CPU cores, and 200gb storage for only EU€9.99 (c. US$13.00) a month. (I was paying like US$60/mo at linode for 20gb storage, 1gb ram, 2 cores). They have a good selection of OS options. My server is, of course, running Wheezy, and I have e-mail set up with postfix, dovecot, and squirrelmail for a web interface (although I tend to use mutt, as I am to send this message, rather than the web interface). I feel better having my stuff hosted in Germany, too, where privacy is taken a little more seriously than in the US. (NSA can't just seize my server). Taz -- http://tazmandevil.info taz hungry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131101114929.ga1...@myownsite.me
Re: Hosting advice
On 11/1/2013 4:27 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Craig L. cr...@gtek.biz wrote: Hello all, I have a good friend that is in a sticky situation and has turned to me for help. I'm not 100% sure of how to advise him so I figured I would pose our question here. He lives in Texas, in the USA. He is starting his own business, and a bit sooner than he planned. He has a domain registered to him. He needs to be able to set up email service asap, with an eye towards eventually setting up a web site for the operation. I know GoDaddy offers these types of services, but I'm not a big fan of GoDaddy. Since I will probably be the system administrator for a while, I would prefer a hosting service that offers a Linux OS, preferably Debian, and PostgreSQL or MySQL, again preferably PostgreSQL. May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. Thanks, Craig If you're in that kind of hurry, google can do some cool stuff for you, but they don't seem to be settled about what they provide. I've been using a combination of google apps and dyn.com's dynamic dns, but dyn changed their business model, too, and I can't freeload any more. (Sob, sniff.) Heh. Everybody seems to be in the process of changing their business models these days. What I did, and I think you can still do it with the paid stuff at google, was register a subdomain from dyn, mapped it (dynamic dns) to my personal server here at home, used that as my domain for google apps, and let google handle the mail. Dyn still does free subdomains, but the subdomain I was using is now premium. When my financial stuff settles down again, I'm probably going to become a paying customer at dyn. They do registrar stuff for the common top-level domains too, now. I would *never* run a business site from home. Data centers have multiple communications links (from different suppliers), backup power and techs on duty 25/7. Can you provide that from home? Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/527397ca.8000...@attglobal.net
Re: Hosting advice
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 20:38, staticsafe m...@staticsafe.ca said: On 10/31/2013 20:00, John Hasler wrote: nearlyfreespeech.net looks interesting but if he goes with that why would he bother with the Google thing? NearlyFreeSpeech only provides an e-mail forwarding service, no actual hosted e-mail service. Thanks staticsafe, but that's a show-stopper. -- staticsafe O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org Please don't top post. It is not logical. Please don't CC me! I'm subscribed to whatever list I just posted on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52730613.2010...@staticsafe.ca Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1383309360.183928...@webmail.gtek.biz
Re: Hosting advice
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 18:46, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com said: Craig L. writes: May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. If his registrar is any good they will provide email forwarding at no extra cost. I suggest opening an account at http://newsguy.com/ (yes, they are a Usenet provider, but their accounts come with email service that is well worth the price without the news). They are, and they do (EasyDNS). For hosting (and as a registrar) I recommend https://www.gandi.net/. This is definitely a good options. Thanks! -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1383310060.543630...@webmail.gtek.biz
Re: Hosting advice
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 21:09, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net said: May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. Thanks, Craig Sent - Gtek Web Mail First of all, most hosting is done on shared servers. With shared servers, you will have only user privileges, and not much of that. Email will be set up via a control panel; webserver, database and languages will already be set up. The system itself will be maintained and updated. You will share the server resources with up to 150 or so other web sites (depending on the hosting company . All you need to do is upload the website pages. You will have very limited access outside of your home directory; some hosting companies don't even provide SSH access because for the vast majority of web sites, it's not needed. So from the operator POV (you will not be a sysop - you'll be a webmaster), there's not really much difference between Linux hosting and other types. I do, however, prefer Linux hosting, but for other reasons. Good points. The reason for going for hosting at the moment is it will give us a quick and easy solution. The reason for the Linux requirement is that we will be looking into a dedicated or virtual solution in the future. If I am going to manage it, it will be Linux. Now if you go with an unmanaged dedicated server ($$$) or Virtual Private Server ($$), you do have total control - but you also have total responsibility (you can get managed servers - but at more cost). For shared hosting you might try HostGator - I know several people who are happy with them. (BTW - I share your feelings about GoDaddy web hosting - I have my domains there - but would never host a site there). Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52730d3c.2000...@attglobal.net Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1383310168.190310...@webmail.gtek.biz
Re: Hosting advice
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 22:06, David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com said: On 10/31/2013 03:53 PM, Craig L. wrote: May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. If you want a virtual private server (VPS), I had a good experience with a Linode: https://www.linode.com/ They offer several OS's, including Debian 6 and 7. This is definitely a good option. Thanks! HTH, David Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1383310389.301532...@webmail.gtek.biz
Re: Hosting advice
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 22:36, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com said: On 01/11/13 09:53, Craig L. wrote: May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. Match your requirements, support Debian, and, Debian support https://wiki.debian.org/DebianHosting Ah, this is exactly what I need. I will do some exploring and we should be able to have at least one functioning email address by this afternoon. Thanks Scott, and to everyone else that took the time to respond. I think I have what I need for the moment. Our needs right now are a functioning email address. Our eventual plan is to go with a VPS running Wheezy, Apache, Exim4, PostgreSQL9 and Courier IMAP, and eventual plans to go to a dedicated system, either housed locally or colocated. Regards, Craig Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/527321bc.5030...@gmail.com Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1383310942.000219...@webmail.gtek.biz
Re: Hosting advice
On Friday, November 1, 2013 05:56, Jeff Bauer alienj...@charter.net said: On 10/31/2013 06:53 PM, Craig L. wrote: I have a good friend ... Consider https://www.linode.com/ Friends don't run a friend's server on Microsoft; nor do friends set up friend's email with Google. Yep, that's why I insisted that if I was doing this then my only requirements were that neither would be in the picture. Regards, Jeff Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1383311371.376730...@webmail.gtek.biz
Re: Hosting advice
Craig L. writes: Ah, this is exactly what I need. I will do some exploring and we should be able to have at least one functioning email address by this afternoon. Note that gandi.net is on that list. They offer everything from Simple Hosting ---inexpensive and trivial to set up but limited--- to full virtual servers completely under your control including installation of the OS. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87habwdzvg@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Hosting advice
On 11/1/2013 8:49 AM, Craig L. wrote: On Thursday, October 31, 2013 21:09, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net said: May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. Thanks, Craig Sent - Gtek Web Mail First of all, most hosting is done on shared servers. With shared servers, you will have only user privileges, and not much of that. Email will be set up via a control panel; webserver, database and languages will already be set up. The system itself will be maintained and updated. You will share the server resources with up to 150 or so other web sites (depending on the hosting company . All you need to do is upload the website pages. You will have very limited access outside of your home directory; some hosting companies don't even provide SSH access because for the vast majority of web sites, it's not needed. So from the operator POV (you will not be a sysop - you'll be a webmaster), there's not really much difference between Linux hosting and other types. I do, however, prefer Linux hosting, but for other reasons. Good points. The reason for going for hosting at the moment is it will give us a quick and easy solution. The reason for the Linux requirement is that we will be looking into a dedicated or virtual solution in the future. If I am going to manage it, it will be Linux. Most web sites are generated with HTML markup (text files), one (or more) scripting languages (which are OS-independent) and databases (which are cross-platform). IOW, properly coded, a web site does not depend on the underlying OS. I often develop web sites on Windows (I need it for other things, unfortunately), and upload them to my Debian VPS. They work fine on both systems with no changes (except maybe for database userids/passwords). And what reason do you want to go to a VPS or even a dedicated server? Unless your buddy's website is getting dozens of hits a second, it is way overkill. And it comes at a price (both $$$ and time) to match. It's obvious this is a new area for you. My recommendation would be to find a good shared host and let the experts manage the system. It's a lot different than managing a home system, especially security. As an example, my servers get attacks from a dozen or so different ip addresses each day, coming in through smtp, pop3, imap and/or ssh ports. You can't just shut those off - you need them open. So you have to take additional steps to stop the attacks while letting valid traffic through. You have to ensure your email server doesn't become a SPAM relay. And this is just the start. It's a constant battle that a good hosting company knows how to fight successfully. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5273be82.5050...@attglobal.net
Re: Hosting advice
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: On 11/1/2013 4:27 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Craig L. cr...@gtek.biz wrote: Hello all, I have a good friend that is in a sticky situation and has turned to me for help. I'm not 100% sure of how to advise him so I figured I would pose our question here. He lives in Texas, in the USA. He is starting his own business, and a bit sooner than he planned. He has a domain registered to him. He needs to be able to set up email service asap, with an eye towards eventually setting up a web site for the operation. I know GoDaddy offers these types of services, but I'm not a big fan of GoDaddy. Since I will probably be the system administrator for a while, I would prefer a hosting service that offers a Linux OS, preferably Debian, and PostgreSQL or MySQL, again preferably PostgreSQL. May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. Thanks, Craig If you're in that kind of hurry, google can do some cool stuff for you, but they don't seem to be settled about what they provide. I've been using a combination of google apps and dyn.com's dynamic dns, but dyn changed their business model, too, and I can't freeload any more. (Sob, sniff.) Heh. Everybody seems to be in the process of changing their business models these days. What I did, and I think you can still do it with the paid stuff at google, was register a subdomain from dyn, mapped it (dynamic dns) to my personal server here at home, used that as my domain for google apps, and let google handle the mail. Dyn still does free subdomains, but the subdomain I was using is now premium. When my financial stuff settles down again, I'm probably going to become a paying customer at dyn. They do registrar stuff for the common top-level domains too, now. I would *never* run a business site from home. Data centers have multiple communications links (from different suppliers), backup power and techs on duty 25/7. Can you provide that from home? Jerry Did I say I had a business site on the server? I look back at that and I don't see anywhere I said that I had a business site on that server. Do you see anywhere I said I had a business site on that server? No? I didn't think so. Now, to forestall your next diatribe, Craig said his friend needed an e-mail address and a net presence in a real hurry. He did not say he needed a full-blown business site, just a net presence. He did not say in a couple of days, he said tonight. Running a business on a Google site is stupid, but it is a good option to get a site and multiple e-mail addresses up quickly. You only need a domain and a server for Google to communicate with. Any server will do, even a vanity server. Using dynamic DNS to publish a home server that will immediately be transferred to Google is one way to do that. Once you're up and that pressure is off, you can focus on getting your real site set up. Once you've found a set of options (hosting or co-location or such) that works for you, dynamic dns can actually help in the transition, among other things. It's one set of options that may or may not be useful, depending on how fast and reliable the other options are. Now, I'm sure you're going to waste a lot of time thinking of reasons all of that is stupid. Go for it. Waste your time. I've got other things to do. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43ior0zn+clyw_dkulqtpvcrrg8p4rmhg1y0be0mboha...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Hosting advice
On 11/1/2013 10:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote: On 11/1/2013 4:27 AM, Joel Rees wrote: On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Craig L. cr...@gtek.biz wrote: Hello all, I have a good friend that is in a sticky situation and has turned to me for help. I'm not 100% sure of how to advise him so I figured I would pose our question here. He lives in Texas, in the USA. He is starting his own business, and a bit sooner than he planned. He has a domain registered to him. He needs to be able to set up email service asap, with an eye towards eventually setting up a web site for the operation. I know GoDaddy offers these types of services, but I'm not a big fan of GoDaddy. Since I will probably be the system administrator for a while, I would prefer a hosting service that offers a Linux OS, preferably Debian, and PostgreSQL or MySQL, again preferably PostgreSQL. May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. Thanks, Craig If you're in that kind of hurry, google can do some cool stuff for you, but they don't seem to be settled about what they provide. I've been using a combination of google apps and dyn.com's dynamic dns, but dyn changed their business model, too, and I can't freeload any more. (Sob, sniff.) Heh. Everybody seems to be in the process of changing their business models these days. What I did, and I think you can still do it with the paid stuff at google, was register a subdomain from dyn, mapped it (dynamic dns) to my personal server here at home, used that as my domain for google apps, and let google handle the mail. Dyn still does free subdomains, but the subdomain I was using is now premium. When my financial stuff settles down again, I'm probably going to become a paying customer at dyn. They do registrar stuff for the common top-level domains too, now. I would *never* run a business site from home. Data centers have multiple communications links (from different suppliers), backup power and techs on duty 25/7. Can you provide that from home? Jerry Did I say I had a business site on the server? I look back at that and I don't see anywhere I said that I had a business site on that server. Do you see anywhere I said I had a business site on that server? No? I didn't think so. No, but you're giving advice to someone who is requesting recommendations for a business site. Now, to forestall your next diatribe, Craig said his friend needed an e-mail address and a net presence in a real hurry. He did not say he needed a full-blown business site, just a net presence. He did not say in a couple of days, he said tonight. I've set up sites in as little as 30 minutes on shared hosting companies - including email and a simple home page. It's not rocket science. And it's a heck of a lot faster than setting up a web server and associated necessities on your own server - especially if you've never done it before. Running a business on a Google site is stupid, but it is a good option to get a site and multiple e-mail addresses up quickly. You only need a domain and a server for Google to communicate with. Any server will do, even a vanity server. Using dynamic DNS to publish a home server that will immediately be transferred to Google is one way to do that. There are much better options - and then you don't have to move your site later. Once you're up and that pressure is off, you can focus on getting your real site set up. Once you've found a set of options (hosting or co-location or such) that works for you, dynamic dns can actually help in the transition, among other things. It's one set of options that may or may not be useful, depending on how fast and reliable the other options are. Now, I'm sure you're going to waste a lot of time thinking of reasons all of that is stupid. Go for it. Waste your time. I've got other things to do. As I said - setting up a server on a shared site is neither rocket science nor is it time consuming. It can also be done for as little as $5/mo. from a good hosting company (you can find cheaper, but generally quality suffers). Probably the one thing that takes the longest is getting your credit card out to pay the first month's bill. Hosting companies provide a good service, and are well worth the price for what they provide. P.S. Please don't CC me. I am subscribed to the list. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5273c45c.9000...@attglobal.net
Re: Hosting advice
On Friday, November 1, 2013 09:45, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net said: And what reason do you want to go to a VPS or even a dedicated server? Unless your buddy's website is getting dozens of hits a second, it is way overkill. And it comes at a price (both $$$ and time) to match. Sorry, I meant when we grow to the point of needing something like that. Right now, and for the foreseeable future, simple hosting is more than good enough. The web presence will more or less just be a contact page for now, and that's easy enough. I just figured proper planning at this stage will come in handy one of these days. It's obvious this is a new area for you. My recommendation would be to find a good shared host and let the experts manage the system. It's a lot different than managing a home system, especially security. As an example, my servers get attacks from a dozen or so different ip addresses each day, coming in through smtp, pop3, imap and/or ssh ports. You can't just shut those off - you need them open. So you have to take additional steps to stop the attacks while letting valid traffic through. You have to ensure your email server doesn't become a SPAM relay. And this is just the start. It's a constant battle that a good hosting company knows how to fight successfully. Advice taken, and thanks. In the end it turns out that EasyDNS offers email hosting and I opted for that for the sake of expediency. That takes the pressure off for the next few days at least. Again, thanks to you and everyone. I received some excellent advice. Now, off to grow the business! Craig Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1383319687.5561...@webmail.gtek.biz
Re: Hosting advice
Joel Rees wrote: Now, to forestall your next diatribe, Craig said his friend needed an e-mail address and a net presence in a real hurry. He did not say he needed a full-blown business site, just a net presence. He did not say in a couple of days, he said tonight. For what it's worth, if you really mean basic presence, right spanking now, I'd go with GoDaddy. Sure there are downsides to GoDaddy, but when it comes to quick and easy setup of an email presence and a basic web site (using your choice of content management systems) - they're quick, easy, and inexpensive. I say this as someone who used to run a small hosting service, and still does most of my personal and business hosting on a Debian cluster that I own, sitting in a commercial data center, that I maintain. But, when I had to set up a web site for my wife's business, and email/hosting for a new venture of my own, I just plunked down the $100 for a GoDaddy business package, clicked a few buttons, and had email and WordPress up and running. Some of that I've since migrated to virtual machines on my cluster, other pieces are still chugging away at GoDaddy. Now, if you were looking for long-term hosting - be it shared, virtual, or dedicated server - that bears some evaluation of vendors. A lot of people I know swear by pair.com, and rackspace.com is pretty much the leader for dedicated servers, but they're both on the pricey side - probably why a lot folks these days end up starting business on Amazon EC2 virtual machines. (Not Debian, but a unix-based alternative, are a bunch of small outfits that have racks full of Mac Mini's running the server version of OSX - which is essentially BSD Unix with some management utilities added.) Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5273ca9b.4030...@meetinghouse.net
Re: Hosting advice
On Friday, November 01, 2013 08:49:28 AM Craig L. wrote: Good points. The reason for going for hosting at the moment is it will give us a quick and easy solution. The reason for the Linux requirement is that we will be looking into a dedicated or virtual solution in the future. If I am going to manage it, it will be Linux. If Q-n-E and cost are the primary requirement, you'd be hard-pressed to do worse than AdvantageCom. See http://simplywebhosting.com/plans-vps/index- economy-hwvps.shtml: $60/year for a reasonably capable Xen VM running 64-bit Centos. AdvantageCom also have a MailFoundry-based email filtration service for $60/year; this is very good at removing spam and has very few false positives. So, for $10/mo., you can have spam- and virus-filtered email up and running in a day. But read their terms and conditions; there are some restrictions on email. In essence, they don't like spammers. If you are reasonably conscientious about keeping your VPS systems fairly secure, they'll inform you when they detect and disable spammers who've hacked into your system. If you don't care about security, they'll invite (and encourage) you to go elsewhere. Check forum.schmolie.com to review their reliability. I've been using them for years with almost no trouble. N -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201311011212.33040.neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu
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I've been a happy customer of Dreamhost for many years. They support mailing lists, announcement lists, as many hosted mailboxes and forwarding addresses as you can handle, offer both shared hosting and VPS services, and are running Linux. Currently my VPS is Debian, though they announced recently that they're going to be switching to Ubuntu so that they can get new software updates faster than Debian typically supplies them. But I figure that will still *feel* like Debian, so I'm not that worried about it. :-) I know they have MySQL; not sure if they make Postgresql (sp?) available (they might). I use MySQL for everything, so I've never had a reason to look to see if they offer the other one. :-) They've shown that they're big supporters of free speech and seem to have a great corporate philosophy. WorldBlu has voted them one of the most democratic companies to work for for the past 6 years. Take a look at what they offer and see if it's to your (your friend's liking): http://www.dreamhost.com/r.cgi?142294 Yes, that's a referral link. I don't see anything wrong with getting a referral credit with them if I provide a referral - and it doesn't affect any cost to the person I refer. :-) --Dave smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
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[Following up to myself :-)] David Guntner grabbed a keyboard and wrote: I've been a happy customer of Dreamhost for many years. They support mailing lists, announcement lists, as many hosted mailboxes and forwarding addresses as you can handle, offer both shared hosting and VPS services, and are running Linux. Currently my VPS is Debian, though they announced recently that they're going to be switching to Ubuntu so that they can get new software updates faster than Debian typically supplies them. But I figure that will still *feel* like Debian, so I'm not that worried about it. :-) I know they have MySQL; not sure if they make Postgresql (sp?) available (they might). I use MySQL for everything, so I've never had a reason to look to see if they offer the other one. :-) They've shown that they're big supporters of free speech and seem to have a great corporate philosophy. WorldBlu has voted them one of the most democratic companies to work for for the past 6 years. Take a look at what they offer and see if it's to your (your friend's liking): http://www.dreamhost.com/r.cgi?142294 Yes, that's a referral link. I don't see anything wrong with getting a referral credit with them if I provide a referral - and it doesn't affect any cost to the person I refer. :-) I forgot to mention: If you do get a VPS with them, they do make root access available to you if you want it. --Dave smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
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On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 09:22:37 -0700 David Guntner da...@guntner.com wrote: I've been a happy customer of Dreamhost for many years. They support mailing lists, announcement lists, as many hosted mailboxes and forwarding addresses as you can handle, offer both shared hosting and VPS services, and are running Linux. Currently my VPS is Debian, though they announced recently that they're going to be switching to Ubuntu so that they can get new software updates faster than Debian typically supplies them. But I figure that will still *feel* like Debian, so I'm not that worried about it. :-) I'm curious: how important is getting updates fast in the context of a server? I understand that for desktops, some want the latest features, or support for new hardware, etc. but servers? Doesn't it make more sense to just run something like Debian *stable*? I am no hosting expert, so it's not a criticism - I'm just curious. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131101134626.224045c02f0c430628902...@gmail.com
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On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 11:36:59 -0400 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Joel Rees wrote: Now, to forestall your next diatribe, Craig said his friend needed an e-mail address and a net presence in a real hurry. He did not say he needed a full-blown business site, just a net presence. He did not say in a couple of days, he said tonight. For what it's worth, if you really mean basic presence, right spanking now, I'd go with GoDaddy. Sure there are downsides to GoDaddy, but when it comes to quick and easy setup of an email presence and a basic web site (using your choice of content management systems) - they're quick, easy, and inexpensive. I say this as someone who used to run a small hosting service, and still does most of my personal and business hosting on a Debian cluster that I own, sitting in a commercial data center, that I maintain. But, when I had to set up a web site for my wife's business, and email/hosting for a new venture of my own, I just plunked down the $100 for a GoDaddy business package, clicked a few buttons, and had email and WordPress up and running. Some of that I've since migrated to virtual machines on my cluster, other pieces are still chugging away at GoDaddy. Everyone seems to knock GoDaddy, but I've been using them for a tiny (in terms of traffic) personal WordPress installation, and I'm perfectly happy with them. I know that their advertised image is rather sleazy, and the constant upselling attempts are annoying, but at least for my minimal needs, their domain registry / hosting Just Works. I had my domain with them for a few years, and then more recently when I found myself in need of a new hosting provider, I discovered that I was apparently grandfathered in for free Economy / Classic / 2GH hosting. There are some claims that they put ads on such websites, but we've never discovered any on mine. Everything works perfectly, and for just the annual ~$10 or so for the domain, I get the hosting included. Of course, this is a tiny site, and I'm not sure this perk still exists. I'm no hosting expert, and my needs are very basic. Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131101135308.7374b1f24c7b575189061...@gmail.com
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Celejar wrote: On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 09:22:37 -0700 David Guntner da...@guntner.com wrote: I've been a happy customer of Dreamhost for many years. They support mailing lists, announcement lists, as many hosted mailboxes and forwarding addresses as you can handle, offer both shared hosting and VPS services, and are running Linux. Currently my VPS is Debian, though they announced recently that they're going to be switching to Ubuntu so that they can get new software updates faster than Debian typically supplies them. But I figure that will still *feel* like Debian, so I'm not that worried about it. :-) I'm curious: how important is getting updates fast in the context of a server? I understand that for desktops, some want the latest features, or support for new hardware, etc. but servers? Doesn't it make more sense to just run something like Debian *stable*? I am no hosting expert, so it's not a criticism - I'm just curious. For what it's worth, I'm still running Lenny on a couple of servers - chugging away hosting some email accounts, some email lists, some web sites. The rest are running Squeeze. Keep meaning to move everything to Wheezy, but just haven't set aside the time. (HA setup, lots of stuff wired together, doing a major upgrade and keeping everything up while updating what's underneath is just a right royal pain). There's a good case to be made for waiting for a release to be stable, then sticking with it until you need unsupported features. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5273eb75.2000...@meetinghouse.net
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On Friday, November 01, 2013 01:46:26 PM Celejar wrote: I'm curious: how important is getting updates fast in the context of a server? I understand that for desktops, some want the latest features, or support for new hardware, etc. but servers? Doesn't it make more sense to just run something like Debian *stable*? You're right; a server generally needs to be stable more than it needs to have the latest and greatest versions of software. Because Debian stable uses somewhat older versions of software, it tends to be quite stable (more reliable, requires fewer updates); security and bug fixes are the order of the week. I run Debian stable on my desktop. My computer is a tool that must work. I almost never need the latest versions of software. Granted, my platform had problems with kernel panics and GPFs with the previous Wheezy kernel (it would crash when RAM--8GiB or 16GiB--was filled and cached disk blocks needed to be dropped). But the latest kernel eliminated the problem. I don't know if it was really a kernel problem or if some kernel files were corrupted on disk; if no one else ever had the problem, I must assume the latter. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201311011408.57211.neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu
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On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: For what it's worth, I'm still running Lenny on a couple of servers - chugging away hosting some email accounts, some email lists, some web sites. Lenny was EOLd in Feb 2012! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=sxl1oo_0om3rvb6kdz_ldc+1c-yepn5_dfcht5v1jx...@mail.gmail.com
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Celejar grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
On Fri, 01 Nov 2013 09:22:37 -0700
David Guntner da...@guntner.com wrote:
I've been a happy customer of Dreamhost for many years. They support
mailing lists, announcement lists, as many hosted mailboxes and
forwarding addresses as you can handle, offer both shared hosting and
VPS services, and are running Linux. Currently my VPS is Debian, though
they announced recently that they're going to be switching to Ubuntu so
that they can get new software updates faster than Debian typically
supplies them. But I figure that will still *feel* like Debian, so I'm
not that worried about it. :-)
I'm curious: how important is getting updates fast in the context of a
server? I understand that for desktops, some want the latest features,
or support for new hardware, etc. but servers? Doesn't it make more
sense to just run something like Debian *stable*?
I am no hosting expert, so it's not a criticism - I'm just curious.
I can't answer that. It was a while ago that they made the announcement
(and my VPS is still on Debian, so they're clearly not making the
mistake of rushing it) and they provided the reason why they wanted
more current versions of stable software which made sense to me at the
time. But I don't remember the details well enough to be able to make
what I recall make any sense in a posting here. :-)
I do know that they treat their business seriously, and in all the years
I've been with them, I haven't seen them just blindly rush into anything
that was going to make a drastic change. So I'm not that worried about
it. There might be some bumps as the transition occurs ('cause face it,
*when* have any of us *ever* seen a transition of this type go 100%
smoothly with no problems at all), but I believe they'll handle it well
and take care of any problems when it happens quickly.
--Dave
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I wouldnt pass by Amazon as possible choice especially because you can run a micro virtual instance for one year for free, perfect for testing. You have complete control of your infrastructure and you pay only for the time your server is running. You are complitely flexible you can upgrade and downgrade as you wish add ebs storage volumes, network interfaces, set subnets, firewalls and acl'l, host domains in route53, have clustering and load balancing if you need in the future, have snapshot backups and create your own os images and the list of benefits goes on and on and on. And most of these is just couple of clicks away in the aws admin console. Now for a single server im not sure you would bother with all these but just saying. They have price list for all their services and regions so its easy to calculate is it worth for you. And as they grow and expand the prices will only get cheaper. On 01/11/2013 10:02 AM, Craig L. cr...@gtek.biz wrote: Hello all, I have a good friend that is in a sticky situation and has turned to me for help. I'm not 100% sure of how to advise him so I figured I would pose our question here. He lives in Texas, in the USA. He is starting his own business, and a bit sooner than he planned. He has a domain registered to him. He needs to be able to set up email service asap, with an eye towards eventually setting up a web site for the operation. I know GoDaddy offers these types of services, but I'm not a big fan of GoDaddy. Since I will probably be the system administrator for a while, I would prefer a hosting service that offers a Linux OS, preferably Debian, and PostgreSQL or MySQL, again preferably PostgreSQL. May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. Thanks, Craig Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1383259990.09978...@webmail.gtek.biz
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Hello all, I have a good friend that is in a sticky situation and has turned to me for help. I'm not 100% sure of how to advise him so I figured I would pose our question here. He lives in Texas, in the USA. He is starting his own business, and a bit sooner than he planned. He has a domain registered to him. He needs to be able to set up email service asap, with an eye towards eventually setting up a web site for the operation. I know GoDaddy offers these types of services, but I'm not a big fan of GoDaddy. Since I will probably be the system administrator for a while, I would prefer a hosting service that offers a Linux OS, preferably Debian, and PostgreSQL or MySQL, again preferably PostgreSQL. May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. Thanks, Craig Sent - Gtek Web Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1383259990.09978...@webmail.gtek.biz
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On 10/31/2013 18:53, Craig L. wrote: Hello all, I have a good friend that is in a sticky situation and has turned to me for help. I'm not 100% sure of how to advise him so I figured I would pose our question here. He lives in Texas, in the USA. He is starting his own business, and a bit sooner than he planned. He has a domain registered to him. He needs to be able to set up email service asap, with an eye towards eventually setting up a web site for the operation. I know GoDaddy offers these types of services, but I'm not a big fan of GoDaddy. Since I will probably be the system administrator for a while, I would prefer a hosting service that offers a Linux OS, preferably Debian, and PostgreSQL or MySQL, again preferably PostgreSQL. May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. Thanks, Craig Sent - Gtek Web Mail Take a look at NearlyFreeSpeech: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ No pgsql but I can recommend them otherwise. -- staticsafe O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org Please don't top post. It is not logical. Please don't CC me! I'm subscribed to whatever list I just posted on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5272e866.1010...@staticsafe.ca
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On 10/31/2013 19:31, staticsafe wrote: Take a look at NearlyFreeSpeech: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ No pgsql but I can recommend them otherwise. E-mail wise I suggest Google Apps for Business: http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/ -- staticsafe O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org Please don't top post. It is not logical. Please don't CC me! I'm subscribed to whatever list I just posted on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5272eb51.7070...@staticsafe.ca
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Craig L. writes: May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. If his registrar is any good they will provide email forwarding at no extra cost. I suggest opening an account at http://newsguy.com/ (yes, they are a Usenet provider, but their accounts come with email service that is well worth the price without the news). For hosting (and as a registrar) I recommend https://www.gandi.net/. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87txfxdmvh@thumper.dhh.gt.org
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nearlyfreespeech.net looks interesting but if he goes with that why would he bother with the Google thing? -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ppqldm8l@thumper.dhh.gt.org
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On 10/31/2013 20:00, John Hasler wrote: nearlyfreespeech.net looks interesting but if he goes with that why would he bother with the Google thing? NearlyFreeSpeech only provides an e-mail forwarding service, no actual hosted e-mail service. -- staticsafe O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org Please don't top post. It is not logical. Please don't CC me! I'm subscribed to whatever list I just posted on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52730613.2010...@staticsafe.ca
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On 10/31/2013 6:53 PM, Craig L. wrote: Hello all, I have a good friend that is in a sticky situation and has turned to me for help. I'm not 100% sure of how to advise him so I figured I would pose our question here. He lives in Texas, in the USA. He is starting his own business, and a bit sooner than he planned. He has a domain registered to him. He needs to be able to set up email service asap, with an eye towards eventually setting up a web site for the operation. I know GoDaddy offers these types of services, but I'm not a big fan of GoDaddy. Since I will probably be the system administrator for a while, I would prefer a hosting service that offers a Linux OS, preferably Debian, and PostgreSQL or MySQL, again preferably PostgreSQL. May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. Thanks, Craig Sent - Gtek Web Mail First of all, most hosting is done on shared servers. With shared servers, you will have only user privileges, and not much of that. Email will be set up via a control panel; webserver, database and languages will already be set up. The system itself will be maintained and updated. You will share the server resources with up to 150 or so other web sites (depending on the hosting company . All you need to do is upload the website pages. You will have very limited access outside of your home directory; some hosting companies don't even provide SSH access because for the vast majority of web sites, it's not needed. So from the operator POV (you will not be a sysop - you'll be a webmaster), there's not really much difference between Linux hosting and other types. I do, however, prefer Linux hosting, but for other reasons. Now if you go with an unmanaged dedicated server ($$$) or Virtual Private Server ($$), you do have total control - but you also have total responsibility (you can get managed servers - but at more cost). For shared hosting you might try HostGator - I know several people who are happy with them. (BTW - I share your feelings about GoDaddy web hosting - I have my domains there - but would never host a site there). Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52730d3c.2000...@attglobal.net
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On 10/31/2013 03:53 PM, Craig L. wrote: I have a good friend that is in a sticky situation and has turned to me for help. I'm not 100% sure of how to advise him so I figured I would pose our question here. He lives in Texas, in the USA. He is starting his own business, and a bit sooner than he planned. He has a domain registered to him. He needs to be able to set up email service asap, with an eye towards eventually setting up a web site for the operation. I know GoDaddy offers these types of services, but I'm not a big fan of GoDaddy. Since I will probably be the system administrator for a while, I would prefer a hosting service that offers a Linux OS, preferably Debian, and PostgreSQL or MySQL, again preferably PostgreSQL. May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. If you want a virtual private server (VPS), I had a good experience with a Linode: https://www.linode.com/ They offer several OS's, including Debian 6 and 7. HTH, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52731ad1.6070...@holgerdanske.com
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On 01/11/13 09:53, Craig L. wrote: Hello all, I have a good friend that is in a sticky situation and has turned to me for help. I'm not 100% sure of how to advise him so I figured I would pose our question here. He lives in Texas, in the USA. He is starting his own business, and a bit sooner than he planned. He has a domain registered to him. He needs to be able to set up email service asap, with an eye towards eventually setting up a web site for the operation. I know GoDaddy offers these types of services, but I'm not a big fan of GoDaddy. Since I will probably be the system administrator for a while, I would prefer a hosting service that offers a Linux OS, preferably Debian, and PostgreSQL or MySQL, again preferably PostgreSQL. May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. Thanks, Craig Sent - Gtek Web Mail Match your requirements, support Debian, and, Debian support https://wiki.debian.org/DebianHosting Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/527321bc.5030...@gmail.com
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On 10/31/2013 11:06 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 10/31/2013 03:53 PM, Craig L. wrote: I have a good friend that is in a sticky situation and has turned to me for help. I'm not 100% sure of how to advise him so I figured I would pose our question here. He lives in Texas, in the USA. He is starting his own business, and a bit sooner than he planned. He has a domain registered to him. He needs to be able to set up email service asap, with an eye towards eventually setting up a web site for the operation. I know GoDaddy offers these types of services, but I'm not a big fan of GoDaddy. Since I will probably be the system administrator for a while, I would prefer a hosting service that offers a Linux OS, preferably Debian, and PostgreSQL or MySQL, again preferably PostgreSQL. May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We would like to have at least one working email address by close of business tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. If you want a virtual private server (VPS), I had a good experience with a Linode: https://www.linode.com/ They offer several OS's, including Debian 6 and 7. HTH, David David, I agree with Linode for VPS's - that's who I use. But at the same time, I have several sites running on it, and it does take a significant amount of time to manage correctly. I haven't even gotten them all updated to Wheezy yet (I thoroughly test before any major upgrade). It does seem to be a bit much for a single, low-traffic (at least to start) site, when there are easier and cheaper solutions available. That's why I didn't recommend them. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5273236e.5070...@attglobal.net
