On Sun 10 Mar 2013 at 15:00:29 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Would it be possible to also pipe outgoing mail through procmail or
similar, on its way to the MTA/SMTP server?
When I initially looked at this I thought maybe, but it did not seem
particularly friendly to do. More to the point, I
On Sun 10 Mar 2013 at 00:37:59 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Cool :)
Thanks for sharing. Appreciated.
+1. I also think that is pretty cool. Since Message-Id is one of the
few that would be passed through. However many clients do not do
this. I have many
Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
On Sun 10 Mar 2013 at 15:00:29 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Would it be possible to also pipe outgoing mail through procmail or
similar, on its way to the MTA/SMTP server?
When I initially looked at this I thought maybe, but it did not seem
David Guntner wrote:
Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
Would it be possible to also pipe outgoing mail through procmail or
similar, on its way to the MTA/SMTP server?
...
There is a Debian package of proxsmtp. This program can proxy mail to a
local or remote MTA. More to the point,
Bob Proulx grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
David Guntner wrote:
Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
Would it be possible to also pipe outgoing mail through procmail or
similar, on its way to the MTA/SMTP server?
...
There is a Debian package of proxsmtp. This program can proxy mail to a
local
On Fri 08 Mar 2013 at 23:19:06 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
But I am a pedantic sort and so must say that every message does have
To continue with the pedantry :) and to return to the issue raised in
this subthread, a CC is not a duplicate of a list mail. Put them side by
side and the difference is
On 3/10/13, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Fri 08 Mar 2013 at 23:19:06 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
But I am a pedantic sort and so must say that every message does have
To continue with the pedantry :) and to return to the issue raised in
this subthread, a CC is not a duplicate of a list
Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Brian wrote:
Fortunately, Mutt users have the opportunity to take advantage of its
ability to construct a custom Message-ID: header for a mail sent to
debian-user. Like so:
send-hook . 'unmy_hdr Message-ID:'
send-hook 'debian-user@lists\.debian\.org' 'my_hdr
Somehow, I got on the debian help list. Pleas get me (mckitt1...@gmail.com)
off. I think my problems were due to bad sectors on my hard drive. I will
try again when I get a new one. I have the debian 1-8 i386 iso's burned to
dvds.
best of luck
bob
On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Bob Proulx
On Friday 08 March 2013 16:40:50 Robert McKittrick wrote:
Somehow, I got on the debian help list. Pleas get me (mckitt1...@gmail.com)
off. I think my problems were due to bad sectors on my hard drive. I will
try again when I get a new one. I have the debian 1-8 i386 iso's burned to
dvds.
We
Lisi Reisz wrote:
In case anyone wishes to point out to Bob that this information is
on the end of every email, it was not at the end of Bob's email, so
give him the benefit of the doubt and spare him - please?
I know what you meant and I agree. Confusingly there are also two
Bobs in that
Le Mar 5 mars 2013 16:37, Martin McCormick a écrit :
Miles Fidelman writes:
In Linux/Unix in general, we have a concept that is
rather old of output being something you can send where it needs to go
because you may not always predict where somebody will need to send it for
a particular job.
Miles Fidelman writes:
Which leads me to take just a little issue with your comment that younger
people have more useful experience. I'm actually not entirely sure that's
true. If anything, younger people have narrower (or at least different)
experience.
I tend to agree. Lisi is right
On Tuesday 05 March 2013 15:37:31 Martin McCormick wrote:
Miles Fidelman writes:
Which leads me to take just a little issue with your comment that
younger people have more useful experience. I'm actually not entirely
sure that's true. If anything, younger people have narrower (or at least
What I like about *nix is that it builds on the
experience of 3 decades plus a lot more sound theory. Nobody has
scrapped anything that is truly useful to cut corners and that
is what I find impressive.
I don't think anything is served by a battle of the
young guns versus the old
On Tue, Mar 05, 2013 at 10:56:18AM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote:
What I like about *nix is that it builds on the
experience of 3 decades plus a lot more sound theory. Nobody has
scrapped anything that is truly useful to cut corners and that
is what I find impressive.
I don't
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:18:20 -0500
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Hello,
Debian is the Linux distribution with the most packages, no Linux firm
can compete.
Linux runs well without any sort of a firm backing it.
* /From/: Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com
David Guntner wrote:
Bob Proulx grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
For one I use the mailing list headers List-Id and List-Post. Those
are the standard headers and those are the best ones to use for filing
mailing list messages. Smart MUAs use those to know how to do a
list-reply. Therefore
On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:38:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
These days it is != :) (I think was not equal to, was it?)
Technically, it's less than or greater than, but I suppose it amounts
to the same thing :)
Cheers,
Tom
--
I think the world is run by C students.
--
On 03/02/2013 11:27 AM, Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:38:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
These days it is != :) (I think was not equal to, was it?)
Technically, it's less than or greater than, but I suppose it
amounts to the same thing :)
Cheers, Tom
In pascal,
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 23:05:13 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Yup. And it's even obvious what he's doing, but he's too obstinate
to listen.
(trying to install onto the same device he's booting from, without
paying attention to partitioning, telling the installer where to put
things, or
Brian wrote:
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 23:05:13 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Yup. And it's even obvious what he's doing, but he's too obstinate
to listen.
(trying to install onto the same device he's booting from, without
paying attention to partitioning, telling the installer where to put
Lars Noodén wrote:
On 03/02/2013 11:27 AM, Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:38:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
These days it is != :) (I think was not equal to, was it?)
Technically, it's less than or greater than, but I suppose it
amounts to the same thing :)
Cheers, Tom
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 00:35:35 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
David Guntner wrote:
Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple.
...
# Duplicate Suppression.
:0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock
| $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache
# Take out the Trash.
:0 a:
/dev/null
Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 00:35:35 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
David Guntner wrote:
Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple.
...
# Duplicate Suppression.
:0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock
| $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache
# Take out the Trash.
On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 09:20:14 -0800, David Guntner wrote:
Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
Be strict in what you send and generous in what you receive is still a
good maxim to follow.
I agree. And when I'm setting up a mail *server* (which typically
services the needs of multiple
Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 09:20:14 -0800, David Guntner wrote:
Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
And face it, the scenario you describe above is not one I (or a number
of other people) are likely to run into all that often. Possible, sure.
Probable, not
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 12:38:25 -0500, Tom H wrote:
If I had a non-work-supplied-totally-locked-down Windows installation,
I'd try the Ubuntu solution for Debian (that application looked like
it had a drop-down menu with a list
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:
On 03/01/2013 12:13 PM, Tom H wrote:
[You've snipped the history of the posters...]
And there is always PCLinuxOS, which was originally designed expressly to
make
the transition to Linux easy for Windows users.
I wasn't
On 03/03/13 10:30, David Guntner wrote:
Actually, I am seeking no such thing. What I *am* saying, however, is
that if you (again, in the general sense, not necessarily specifically
you) are going to come at someone with a that solution is no good for
reason X, then it's only polite to
Richard Hector grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
On 03/03/13 10:30, David Guntner wrote:
I've worked at places where the attitude of management was along the
lines of, If you're going to come to me with a complaint about the way
something is being done, provide a possible solution. Otherwise I
On Thursday 28 February 2013 23:20:08 Miles Fidelman wrote:
Your experience doesn't make your point of reference of any greater value
than anyone else's. Many people go back a long way. You were obviously
in the miltary and/or in the States, since the first commercial computer
this side
Le Jeu 28 février 2013 11:32, Chris Bannister a écrit :
[Please keep attributions, I presume you are not answering yourself!]
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:39:09AM +0100, Morel Bérenger wrote:
what? That's absurd. The only people I know who have their OS
installed at a shop are Apple users.
Le Ven 1 mars 2013 0:20, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
- those of us who go back a bit date from a time when computer science
was an offshoot of electrical engineering
analog and digital circuitry before ever touching a computer - gives a
very different perspective than starting with programming
I
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:43:13 -0500
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
Nope ;)
It was the standard IBM keypunch. I spent many hours muttering at it
in 1961.
Ok... definitely a bit before my time. Used keypunches my freshman year
at college (1971)
Morel Bérenger wrote:
Le Ven 1 mars 2013 0:20, Miles Fidelman a écrit :
- also, those of us who date back a few years still think of computers
as things that need some assembly and bring that view to system software
as well
Well, here, let me laugh.
Something which needs some assembly, is
Bob Proulx wrote:
David Guntner wrote:
Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple.
...
# Duplicate Suppression.
:0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock
| $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache
# Take out the Trash.
:0 a:
/dev/null
For one I use the mailing list headers List-Id
Bob Proulx grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
David Guntner wrote:
Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple.
...
# Duplicate Suppression.
:0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock
| $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache
# Take out the Trash.
:0 a:
/dev/null
That's all there is to
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:
On 02/28/2013 02:12 PM, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 18:12:14 Tom H wrote:
Linux isn't as myopic as people are claiming in this thread.
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Tom H wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Come to think of
Thanks but these instructions are for creating an installation flash drive
on Linux - and they're well hidden. So it's a fail from the perspective
of the person criticizing distributions for not providing readily-available
Windows instructions for creating one.
Wow! This trolling will never
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati
assir...@nonada.if.usp.br wrote:
Thanks but these instructions are for creating an installation flash drive
on Linux - and they're well hidden. So it's a fail from the perspective
of the person criticizing distributions for not
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:33:41 +
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
He
cannot both be around 70 (he usually says he is approaching 70) and
have worked on/with punched cards in 1949. (Do the arithmetic.)
That certainly doesn't tell the whole story. Those same punch cards
or ones
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 08:34:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Fair enough, but... I have to say it
Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both
directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by
hand, from TTL logic gates. :-)
You had TTL logic
Brian wrote:
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 08:34:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Fair enough, but... I have to say it
Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both
directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by
hand, from TTL logic gates. :-)
You had TTL
Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 08:33:41 +
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
He
cannot both be around 70 (he usually says he is approaching 70) and
have worked on/with punched cards in 1949. (Do the arithmetic.)
I never claimed to be THAT old.
Parents married day before
--- On Fri, 3/1/13, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
From: Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net
Subject: Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience --
was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Friday, March 1, 2013, 12:43 PM
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 12:38:25 -0500, Tom H wrote:
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati
assir...@nonada.if.usp.br wrote:
Thanks but these instructions are for creating an installation flash drive
on Linux - and they're well hidden. So it's a fail from the perspective
On 03/01/2013 12:13 PM, Tom H wrote:
/snip/
And there is always PCLinuxOS, which was originally designed expressly to
make
the transition to Linux easy for Windows users.
I wasn't making an exhaustive list of distributions. I just check
three and found their instructions.
I've just checked
Brian wrote:
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 08:34:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Fair enough, but... I have to say it
Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both
directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by
hand, from TTL logic gates. :-)
You had TTL
On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 12:13:59PM -0500, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:
There are instructions for making a boot flash-drive here:
http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,80917.0.html
Thanks but these instructions are for
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:37:32 -0500
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Brian wrote:
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 08:34:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Fair enough, but... I have to say it
Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both
directions, in the
On Friday 01 March 2013 08:33:41 Lisi Reisz wrote:
Thirdly, I didn't notice yesterday, but he is not even telling the truth.
He cannot both be around 70 (he usually says he is approaching 70) and
have worked on/with punched cards in 1949. (Do the arithmetic.)
It has been drawn to my
Lisi Reisz wrote:
It has been drawn to my attention off list that I am wrong ...
NOT TO WORRY
If I took myself too seriously I've siblings {and friends}
who would resolve issue ;/
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There was once a fellow on a list I belong to whose postings
were one tale of woe after another which is not that unusual for
those of us who tinker and work in technology. The trouble with
him was that it was all one big conspiracy against him and he
was just going to get out of the hobby of
Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
There was once a fellow on a list I belong to whose postings
were one tale of woe after another which is not that unusual for
those of us who tinker and work in technology. The trouble with
him was that it was all one big conspiracy against him and he
was just
On 2013/3/1 11:05 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
There was once a fellow on a list I belong to whose postings
were one tale of woe after another which is not that unusual for
those of us who tinker and work in technology. The trouble with
him was that it was all one
--- On Fri, 3/1/13, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati assir...@nonada.if.usp.br wrote:
From: Joao Luis Meloni Assirati assir...@nonada.if.usp.br
Subject: Re: I wish to advocate linux
To: Martin McCormick mar...@x.it.okstate.edu
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Friday, March 1, 2013, 10:01 PM
Go Linux wrote:
--- On Fri, 3/1/13, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati assir...@nonada.if.usp.br wrote:
From: Joao Luis Meloni Assirati assir...@nonada.if.usp.br
Subject: Re: I wish to advocate linux
To: Martin McCormick mar...@x.it.okstate.edu
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Friday, March 1
On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 08:34:57AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Fair enough, but... I have to say it
Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both
directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by
hand, from TTL logic gates. :-)
[Sorry, posted previous post too soon! :D]
On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 12:23:01PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
Fair enough, but... I have to say it
Back in my day, we not only had to walk to school, uphill, in both
directions, in the snow, but we also had to build our computers by
hand,
I posit that your problem with Linux is YOU!
What are you doing here? You obviously don't care about helping people.
You are wrong.
She is trying to help you to understand that your problem with linux is
located between your computer and your chair.
Well, but I suspect that, to reproduce the
Cities that switched from Microsoft to Linux, for their departments,
switched back to Windows.
Not all. IIRC I've heard of Zurich, recently, said anew that it is
interesting to switch to linux because very, very cheaper.
And in France, policemen (at least one, affiliated to military) are using
as my thread. I wish to advocate linux is not my aim. I merely made a
comment about Linux advocacy and got jumped on. Whether you think I
deserved to get jumped on or not, I got many messages in short order
attacking me. I guess I did hit a nerve.
You insist on pointing out that mentally
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:04:04 -0500
Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me give you an example of the kind of insensitivity (or myopic
stupidity) that seems to be the hallmark of the Linux community. In
the Debian live page, dd is offered as the way to copy the ISO file
to a
what? That's absurd. The only people I know who have their OS installed
at a shop are Apple users.
Sounds like an ideal country. In France, even if it is illegal, all
computers have an installed OS on them. And guess which one?
Look, I asked for help. Then things got out of hand. Some Linux
are CC'ing the list, not me.
Headers from Miles's post
- To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org
- Subject: Re: I wish to advocate linux
Headers from Mark's post
- To: Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net
- CC: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org
- Subject: Re: I
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 11:26:01PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 03:52:24PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote:
On 2013/2/27 3:45 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
* On 2013 27 Feb 14:25 -0600, Mark Filipak wrote:
What a nonsensical statement. I've never successfully installed any
[Please keep attributions, I presume you are not answering yourself!]
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:39:09AM +0100, Morel Bérenger wrote:
what? That's absurd. The only people I know who have their OS installed
at a shop are Apple users.
Sounds like an ideal country. In France, even if it is
On Thu 28 Feb 2013 at 09:36:29 +, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:04:04 -0500
Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me give you an example of the kind of insensitivity (or myopic
stupidity) that seems to be the hallmark of the Linux community. In
the Debian live
On Wed 27 Feb 2013 at 20:01:02 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
However, I recommend to install from a CD or DVD. Download the ISO, burn
it with your preferred application for what OS ever and then install
Linux.
echo that - getting USB sticks to work as an install medium
There was once a fellow on a list I belong to whose postings
were one tale of woe after another which is not that unusual for
those of us who tinker and work in technology. The trouble with
him was that it was all one big conspiracy against him and he
was just going to get out of the hobby of
On 28 February 2013 14:21, Martin McCormick mar...@x.it.okstate.edu wrote:
There was once a fellow on a list I belong to whose postings
were one tale of woe after another...
Yes, this whole thread/tale is reminding me of when I first installed
a Linux system (SuSE 6.2, back in 1999). It took
On Thursday 28 February 2013 14:21:59 Martin McCormick wrote:
In the 35 years I have been involved with modern
computing, my experience has been that if you show you are
making a good effort to help yourself, people will at least
point you at a good reading list and many times, they do a lot
On 02/27/2013 08:32 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen a live CD for either Windows or MacOS
(well, the install DVD sort of is, but...).
BartPE (Windows). But it's not a full-blown system. Quite minimalistic.
And of course, there's the licensing issues
--
Kent
Brian wrote:
On Thu 28 Feb 2013 at 09:36:29 +, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:04:04 -0500
Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me give you an example of the kind of insensitivity (or myopic
stupidity) that seems to be the hallmark of the Linux community. In
the Debian
Am 28.02.2013 um 04:19 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
We're using Linux for different reasons, but comparison to Microsoft
and
Apple are useless.
If I want to do a well defined collection of tasks then a *can*
compare the platforms.
Remark: I have experience with IBM 360/370+ (DOS, MVS, VM),
Harvey Kelly wrote:
[SNIP]
Please, for your own sake, go to Linux Mint's site, grab an iso and
try that installation. 99% of hardware is fully supported with Mint -
at least try that. If something goes wrong then tell us the specifics.
http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php
As a long time
I don't know if he was referring to that FAQ or not.
*HOWEVER*, as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to Debian(tm?),
I find the transition unnecessarily annoying.
I used http://goodbye-microsoft.org once and it went very smoothly.
AFAICT this site doesn't exist any more, but I have the
On 28 February 2013 16:30, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Harvey Kelly wrote:
[SNIP]
Please, for your own sake, go to Linux Mint's site, grab an iso and
try that installation. 99% of hardware is fully supported with Mint -
at least try that. If something goes wrong then tell us the
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 14:21:59 Martin McCormick wrote:
In the 35 years I have been involved with modern
computing, my experience has been that if you show you are
making a good effort to help yourself, people will at least
point you at a good reading list and many
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
So here we have it. You are trying to run a Linux distribution from USB
stick. Somehing very exotic, not for beginers. Now I dare you to prove
that it is easier (or even
Judging by some reviews I find online, a goodly number of radio amateurs
seem capable of breaking an anvil with a rubber mallet.
- Nate
--
The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all
possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true.
Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more:
Tom H wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
So here we have it. You are trying to run a Linux distribution from USB
stick. Somehing very exotic, not for beginers. Now I dare you to prove
that it is easier (or
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
On Thu 28 Feb 2013 at 09:36:29 +, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:04:04 -0500
Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me give you an example of the kind of insensitivity (or myopic
stupidity) that seems to
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Brian wrote:
On Thu 28 Feb 2013 at 09:36:29 +, Joe wrote:
On Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:04:04 -0500
Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me give you an example of the kind of insensitivity (or myopic
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Tom H wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Come to think of it, that's a good point - and even relevant to Linux
advocacy. I don't think I've ever seen a live
On Thursday 28 February 2013 18:12:14 Tom H wrote:
Linux isn't as myopic as people are claiming in this thread.
Ubuntu points users to this page to create a flash installer:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
And Fedora points users to a Windows version of
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your seniority relevant?
Lisi
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On 02/28/2013 01:54 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 18:12:14 Tom H wrote:
Linux isn't as myopic as people are claiming in this thread.
Ubuntu points users to this page to create a flash installer:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
And
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 18:12:14 Tom H wrote:
Linux isn't as myopic as people are claiming in this thread.
Ubuntu points users to this page to create a flash installer:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your seniority relevant?
Just trying to convey that I've enough real-world experience
to have a valid point of reference without heavy
On 02/28/2013 02:12 PM, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 18:12:14 Tom H wrote:
Linux isn't as myopic as people are claiming in this thread.
Ubuntu points users to this page to create a flash installer:
On 02/28/2013 02:12 PM, Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 18:12:14 Tom H wrote:
Linux isn't as myopic as people are claiming in this thread.
Ubuntu points users to this page to create a flash installer:
On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your seniority relevant?
Just trying to convey that I've enough real-world experience to have a
Tom H wrote:
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Tom H wrote:
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Miles Fidelman
mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote:
Come to think of it, that's a good point - and even relevant to Linux
advocacy. I don't think I've ever
On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your seniority relevant?
Just trying to convey that I've enough real-world experience to have a
On 02/28/13 13:09, Miles Fidelman wrote:
On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your seniority relevant?
Just trying to convey that I've
Thomas D. Dean wrote:
On 02/28/13 13:09, Miles Fidelman wrote:
On 02/28/13 11:31, Richard Owlett wrote:
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 28 February 2013 16:01:03 Richard Owlett
wrote:
as a senior citizen moving from Windows(tm) to
Debian(tm?),
Why is your seniority relevant?
Just
Richard Owlett wrote:
Nope ;)
It was the standard IBM keypunch. I spent many hours muttering at it
in 1961.
Ok... definitely a bit before my time. Used keypunches my freshman year
at college (1971) - in a course that took us from IBM 360 batch, to
360/TSO, to Multics - but after that,
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