Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-11-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/10/2014, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2014-10-25, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: which, from my understanding of a previous post or web page, relating to Debian 6 LTS, is what is supposed to be in that file, to have Debian 6 LTS updating as it should. What I see here

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Bret Busby wrote: Why a web page published to provide information to the public, needs to be https, I have no idea. To create more https traffic. If you only encrypt important things then if it is encrypted them it must be important. An attacker now knows that every piece of encrypted traffic

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-27 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 11:37:32PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: :~# df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on ... /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100%

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Brian
On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Igor Sverkos wrote: As you can see, it is always the Unpacking step which is taking all the time. dpkg has added fsync() calls after all file actions. This significantly slows

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Igor Sverkos wrote: As you can see, it is always the Unpacking step which is taking all the time. dpkg has added fsync() calls

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/10/2014, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Igor Sverkos wrote: As you can see, it is always the Unpacking step which is

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/10/2014, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Igor Sverkos wrote: As you

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Please post the output of apt-get update :~# apt-get update That looks fine. Please try 'apt-get upgrade'. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Please post the output of apt-get update :~# apt-get update That looks fine. Please try 'apt-get upgrade'. :~# apt-get

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: Please post the output of apt-get update :~# apt-get update That

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/10/14 21:17, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Igor Sverkos wrote: As you can see, it is always the Unpacking step which is taking all the time.

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/10/14 21:47, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: snipped So, now I am confused, as to

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/10/14 21:17, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sat 25 Oct 2014 at 11:44:32 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Igor Sverkos wrote: As you

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/10/14 21:47, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Brian

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 25/10/14 22:06, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/10/14 21:47, Bret Busby wrote: On 25/10/2014, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 25 oct 14, 18:17:02,

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: :~# df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on ... /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100% /home Can't tell if this is the source of you problems, but I've seen all sorts of strange failures with a full /home, including X

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 10/25/14, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: :~# df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on ... /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100% /home Can't tell if this is the source of you problems, but I've seen

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
Hello, Cindy. On 25/10/2014, Cindy-Sue Causey butterflyby...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/25/14, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: :~# df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on ... /dev/sda8 77G 73G

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 25/10/2014, Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: On Sb, 25 oct 14, 19:04:18, Bret Busby wrote: :~# df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on ... /dev/sda8 77G 73G 194M 100% /home Can't tell if this is the source of you problems, but I've seen

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Curt
On 2014-10-25, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: which, from my understanding of a previous post or web page, relating to Debian 6 LTS, is what is supposed to be in that file, to have Debian 6 LTS updating as it should. What I see here https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using doesn't seem to

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-25 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/10/2014, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: On 2014-10-25, Bret Busby bret.bu...@gmail.com wrote: which, from my understanding of a previous post or web page, relating to Debian 6 LTS, is what is supposed to be in that file, to have Debian 6 LTS updating as it should. What I see here

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-24 Thread Rusi Mody
On Thursday, October 23, 2014 11:10:05 AM UTC+5:30, Bob Proulx wrote: Igor Sverkos wrote: As you can see, it is always the Unpacking step which is taking all the time. dpkg has added fsync() calls after all file actions. This significantly slows down file operations. Basically it

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-24 Thread Bret Busby
On 23/10/2014, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Igor Sverkos wrote: As you can see, it is always the Unpacking step which is taking all the time. dpkg has added fsync() calls after all file actions. This significantly slows down file operations. Basically it disables the file system

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Curt
On 2014-10-23, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: I expect this suggestion to be followed by many people griping that my suggestion is unsafe and that the years and years we spent living without fsync() were unsafe. But we did. We had at least a decade of fast systems in the before time.

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 23 oct 14, 08:33:00, Curt wrote: What about some of the other workarounds/solutions outlined here (there)? https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Dpkg/FAQ#User_Questions (Q: Why is dpkg so slow when using new filesystems such as btrfs or ext4?) I'd be interested about the 'nodelalloc'

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-23 Thread Igor Sverkos
Hi, I already read the FAQ, that's why I am already using the nodelalloc mount option. I also tried eatmydata: # eatmydata annotate-output apt-get install --reinstall tzdata 14:02:27 I: Started apt-get install --reinstall tzdata 14:02:27 O: Reading package lists... 14:02:27 O: Building

Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-22 Thread Igor Sverkos
Hi, I've got a physical machine with jessie/sid where installing/updating a packages takes very long: # annotate-output strace -s 4096 -e trace=file -f -ttt -o /tmp/dpkg-debug.log apt-get install --reinstall tzdata 20:13:28 I: Started strace -s 4096 -e trace=file -f -ttt -o

Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-10-22 Thread Bob Proulx
Igor Sverkos wrote: As you can see, it is always the Unpacking step which is taking all the time. dpkg has added fsync() calls after all file actions. This significantly slows down file operations. Basically it disables the file system buffer cache causing it to operate at disk drive speeds.