Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-15 Thread Merciadri Luca
Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: There are many very proper pdf viewers that handle the auto-refresh very well. Since pdf got ISO certified, many apps included functionality like forms. I use okular and kpdf, which do a very good job in rendering also the complex documents with new pdf stuff (animated

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Tom Furie wrote: And, just for the record, what was the answer? == This is *normal* UNIX file handling. Yes, ps2pdf does indeed recreate the PDF from scratch and unlinks the old PDF's inode(s). Acroread does not know that (thus no messages), and no it does not lock the file, just hangs onto

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu,13.May.10, 23:40:51, Merciadri Luca wrote: Note that, under Windows, I remember that acrord32.exe always blocked the file for writing, even if it was only being read by acrord32.exe. Okay, it's Windows. Bad memories. I thought that was a limitation of the OS (Windows). Regards,

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Andrei Popescu wrote: I thought that was a limitation of the OS (Windows). I don't know. Maybe. -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. If it's worth doing, it's

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-14 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be : Andrei Popescu wrote: I thought that was a limitation of the OS (Windows). I don't know. Maybe. It *_IS*_ -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche Developpement

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be : Andrei Popescu wrote: I thought that was a limitation of the OS (Windows). I don't know. Maybe. It *_IS*_ Okay. Sorry, Windows constitute bad memories for me, nothing more. And I

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-14 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Op 13-05-10 23:40, Merciadri Luca schreef: Sven Joachim wrote: Thanks for this answer. There are *many* reasons not to use pdfLaTeX. They do not enter in the scope of this mailing list, but I am pretty sure you will find them directly on the Internet. For example, pdfLaTeX encourages one to

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: Op 13-05-10 23:40, Merciadri Luca schreef: Sven Joachim wrote: Thanks for this answer. There are *many* reasons not to use pdfLaTeX. They do not enter in the scope of this mailing list, but I am pretty sure you will find them directly on the Internet. For example,

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-14 Thread Erik Heil
Hi, The problem here is that Windows has problems in implementing propper file locking symantics. On the side of acroread.exe, it should not assume documents are static on disk. Not sure if something like file alteration monitor exists on Windows. What is needed is a cross-platform FAM-like

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-14 Thread Mark Allums
On 5/14/2010 2:41 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu,13.May.10, 23:40:51, Merciadri Luca wrote: Note that, under Windows, I remember that acrord32.exe always blocked the file for writing, even if it was only being read by acrord32.exe. Okay, it's Windows. Bad memories. I thought that was a

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Mark Allums wrote: On 5/14/2010 2:41 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: I believe SOP on Windows is to always use a working copy, not the original file. When it is time to exit the application, the working copy is moved onto the original. The OS handles the move, and how Windows actually does that

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri,14.May.10, 15:32:13, Merciadri Luca wrote: I find it interesting that Acroread's behavior is different in Linux. The programmers of the Linux version seem to be aware of *nix standard practice. This is a good thing, I think. I totally agree with you. I was so suprised that

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Yes, but the problem with evince is that it is a basic PDF reader. Acrobat reader includes many completely unimportant functionalities, but an important functionality as the automatic refresh is not implemented in it, when it is implemented in very simple PDF readers, such as evince. Andrei

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
My recommendation is to stay way from acroread which handles this use-case very poorly. Stefan who happens to use pdflatex instead but that makes no difference in this regard anyway -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-14 Thread Sjoerd Hardeman
Op 14-05-10 19:22, Merciadri Luca schreef: Yes, but the problem with evince is that it is a basic PDF reader. Acrobat reader includes many completely unimportant functionalities, but an important functionality as the automatic refresh is not implemented in it, when it is implemented in very

Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-13 Thread Merciadri Luca
Hi, When compiling any .tex document using the route latex - dvips - ps2pdf, I get a PDF. Normal, but the problem is that if I the PDF is already opened (e.g. because I was reading the version of the document before having modified and compiled it) when the compilation and the whole process ends,

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-13 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2010-05-13 17:04 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: When compiling any .tex document using the route latex - dvips - ps2pdf, I get a PDF. This is a rather clumsy way these days. Why don't you use pdflatex? Normal, but the problem is that if I the PDF is already opened (e.g. because I was

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-13 Thread Merciadri Luca
Merciadri Luca wrote: Hi, When compiling any .tex document using the route latex - dvips - ps2pdf, I get a PDF. Normal, but the problem is that if I the PDF is already opened (e.g. because I was reading the version of the document before having modified and compiled it) when the compilation

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-13 Thread Merciadri Luca
Sven Joachim wrote: On 2010-05-13 17:04 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: When compiling any .tex document using the route latex - dvips - ps2pdf, I get a PDF. This is a rather clumsy way these days. Why don't you use pdflatex? Normal, but the problem is that if I the PDF is

Re: Is acroread blind, or ps2pdf dangerous?

2010-05-13 Thread Tom Furie
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:03:50PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: Merciadri Luca wrote: Hi, When compiling any .tex document using the route latex - dvips - ps2pdf, I get a PDF. Normal, but the problem is that if I the PDF is already opened (e.g. because I was reading the version of the