Re: KDE GNOME (was: Making documentation easier to find)
On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 10:10:57PM +0200, David Henningsson wrote: If you are running KDE, I'm currently using Slink 2.1r4. Is KDE in potato? I don't think I have seen a package with KDE on my two CD's. I saw gnome, with big warning labels saying thinks like !!!WARNING!!! ALPHA software! This is very buggy and horrible and you don't want it. If you're upgrading to potato, GNOME shouldn't be too bad. You could also try the Helix-GNOME...? [http://www.helixcode.com/] If I've got it right, there are two 'somethings': KDE and GNOME, and they work at the same level. And there are window managers, which work at another level. Isn't Another Level a fvwm configuration? :) What are KDE and GNOME, what is the right word? Do you have to have one of them? I have no icons on my desktop, although staroffice told me it was going to install one... KDE and GNOME are desktop environments. No, you don't have to have one. If you don't, Star Office can't install an icon. What I've heard, KDE is trying to look like windows, and GNOME isn't. Right? I'm a bit confused. IMHO, they both look quite a bit like Windows. Of course, both are configurable. GNOME is written with the gtk+ toolkit (is that redundant?) and KDE with qt from TrollTech. [snip] -- Pat Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] I cannot overemphasize the importance of good grammar. . What a crock. I could easily overemphasize the importance of good grammar. For example, I could say: Bad grammar is the leading cause of slow, painful death in North America, or Without good grammar, the United States would have lost World War II. -- Dave Barry, An Utterly Absurd Look at Grammar
KDE GNOME (was: Making documentation easier to find)
If you are running KDE, I'm currently using Slink 2.1r4. Is KDE in potato? I don't think I have seen a package with KDE on my two CD's. I saw gnome, with big warning labels saying thinks like !!!WARNING!!! ALPHA software! This is very buggy and horrible and you don't want it. If I've got it right, there are two 'somethings': KDE and GNOME, and they work at the same level. And there are window managers, which work at another level. What are KDE and GNOME, what is the right word? Do you have to have one of them? I have no icons on my desktop, although staroffice told me it was going to install one... What I've heard, KDE is trying to look like windows, and GNOME isn't. Right? I'm a bit confused. All the info needed is already in the dpkg DB, you just have to parse /var/lib/dpkg/info/package.list (via dpkg -L package, maybe) and extract the locations of anything that profiles like a doc file. Figuring out what is a doc file, and what kind it is (Manual, FAQ, ReadMe, Examples, etc.) is the tricky part... When I read some docs in emacs, I find that the headlines are filled with ^ and ~ and perhaps _ among the chars. What reader should I use to read these docs? / David
Re: KDE GNOME (was: Making documentation easier to find)
On Tue, 30 May 2000, David Henningsson wrote: If you are running KDE, I'm currently using Slink 2.1r4. Is KDE in potato? I don't think I have seen a package with KDE on my two CD's. I saw gnome, with big warning labels saying thinks like !!!WARNING!!! ALPHA software! This is very buggy and horrible and you don't want it. KDE is not in Debian, or contrib or non-free. Checkout: http://kde.tdyc.com/ and ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde/debian If I've got it right, there are two 'somethings': KDE and GNOME, and they work at the same level. And there are window managers, which work at another level. What are KDE and GNOME, what is the right word? Do you have to have one of them? I have no icons on my desktop, although staroffice told me it was going to install one... KDE and Gnome are `desktop environments' (DE), you can make your own by installing a window manager, session management, and a bunch of utilities. The advantage to using a prepackaged DE, rather than building one yourself, is that all the fiddly little bits are already done for you and everything should work together `right out of the box'. The disadvantage is that they tend to be large, and could easily become bloated (some would say they already are :). What I've heard, KDE is trying to look like windows, and GNOME isn't. Right? I'm a bit confused. Well, I don't have much experience with Windows, but... The KDE default is to have a Windows style, but you can change it to look like Motif (I've never seen Motif, so can only assume I haven't been lied to) easily enough. As far as I'm concerned, they all pretty much work the same way; whether you click on a `Start' icon or the background, to get a main menu is trivial. KDE is very configurable, and I assume Gnome is also (but it keeps crashing on me so I haven't bother with it much). When I read some docs in emacs, I find that the headlines are filled with ^ and ~ and perhaps _ among the chars. What reader should I use to read these docs? headlines?? I'm not sure what you are referring to. I've noticed that some editors (viewers?) place tildes (~) on lines they display that are not actually in the file being viewed... I use zless; actually, I told GIT to use zless as its pager. later, Bruce
