Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
Le mardi 21 août 2012 à 11:36 +1200, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 04:42:28PM +0200, Gaël DONVAL wrote: be ironed out but as far as I am concerned, skype works very well with all the dependencies under my debian 32/64bits hybrid. All you need to do is adding [arch=amd64,i386] between deb and your mirror URL in /etc/apt/source.list Is that documented anywhere, with examples? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X Oh, my bad, I just gave the last bit of it: http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO And this confirms the [arch=amd64,i386] trick is not needed anymore: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=680120 sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 should be enough then. regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1345539482.4513.60.ca...@p76-nom-gd.cnrs-imn.fr
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
Am Mittwoch, 15. August 2012 schrieb Gary Dale: On 15/08/12 02:13 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 15 aug 12, 05:12:46, Gary Dale wrote: If your computer has a 64bit CPU, you could also install the 64bit version of Debian over the existing. Just don't format your /home. Another option not mentioned yet is to install the -amd64 kernel (assuming the CPU supports it). Works just fine for me. Kind regards, Andrei It works, but why not just upgrade to full 64 bit if you can? It's not a lot more work unless you've installed a lot of extra packages. Especially as there can be difficult to debug issues like a crashing X.org due to 32-bit intel MESA driver not working correctly under 64-Bit kernel. Might have been fixed meanwhile, but that took me really some time to find and fix back then. -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208211916.47548.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
Am Donnerstag, 16. August 2012 schrieb Chris Bannister: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 02:50:37PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: It works, but why not just upgrade to full 64 bit if you can? It's not a lot more work unless you've installed a lot of extra packages. Not sure if things are better now, but there was a time when some packages were only available in 32bit versions. So running a 64bit kernel to cater for the bigger address space and a 32bit userland can sometimes be the better option. YMMV Thats what – with Debian Wheezy – Multiarch is for ;). -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208211917.30380.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
Am Montag, 20. August 2012 schrieb Gaël DONVAL: Le jeudi 16 août 2012 à 09:29 +0300, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Mi, 15 aug 12, 14:50:37, Gary Dale wrote: On 15/08/12 02:13 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Another option not mentioned yet is to install the -amd64 kernel (assuming the CPU supports it). Works just fine for me. It works, but why not just upgrade to full 64 bit if you can? It's not a lot more work unless you've installed a lot of extra packages. The upgrade requires a reinstall and I'm not sure my 2 GB RAM are worth it. Besides, I'm still using skype from time to time, which is a pain to install on amd64. Debian Wheezy has now a full support for multi-arch (well... if you use apt-get... last time I tried, aptitude failed). Some stuffs may need to be ironed out but as far as I am concerned, skype works very well with all the dependencies under my debian 32/64bits hybrid. All you need to do is adding [arch=amd64,i386] between deb and your mirror URL in /etc/apt/source.list Works just fine here with Skype and PCSX2 ;). While with Skype I think it also installs some old ia32-libs package due to the dependencies in the Skype package. -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208211919.12581.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On 19.8.2012 20:48, Merciadri Luca wrote: Thanks for your answers. As I'm using an Asus P5K/EPU with quad-core stuff, 64 bits is not supported. AFAIK every Quad supports EM64T. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Intel-EM64T-Technology-Explained/262 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5031f6fc.2080...@pp.nic.fi
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:48:42 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: Thanks for your answers. As I'm using an Asus P5K/EPU with quad-core stuff, 64 bits is not supported. I sincerely doubt it. Anyway, the motherboard won't tell about the micro capabilities, you better run cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep -i lm to find out (or cat /proc/ cpuinfo | grep 'model name' and then search for your micro specs at the manufacturer database). I will install a bigmem kernel. Thanks. You can't... remember that your motherboard does not support it (just kidding) ;-P I find it a good decision if you don't want to install your system from scratch nor having additional headaches :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0tfnl$mg3$4...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 13:57 +, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:48:42 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: Thanks for your answers. As I'm using an Asus P5K/EPU with quad-core stuff, 64 bits is not supported. I sincerely doubt it. There is no 32bit quad-core cpu! Sorry, I couldn't resist: Here are drivers for ASUS P5K/EPU for Windows 7 64-bit. - http://driverscollection.com/?H=P5K/EPUBy=ASUSSS=Windows%207%2064-bit Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1345471615.1285.31.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
Le jeudi 16 août 2012 à 09:29 +0300, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Mi, 15 aug 12, 14:50:37, Gary Dale wrote: On 15/08/12 02:13 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Another option not mentioned yet is to install the -amd64 kernel (assuming the CPU supports it). Works just fine for me. It works, but why not just upgrade to full 64 bit if you can? It's not a lot more work unless you've installed a lot of extra packages. The upgrade requires a reinstall and I'm not sure my 2 GB RAM are worth it. Besides, I'm still using skype from time to time, which is a pain to install on amd64. Debian Wheezy has now a full support for multi-arch (well... if you use apt-get... last time I tried, aptitude failed). Some stuffs may need to be ironed out but as far as I am concerned, skype works very well with all the dependencies under my debian 32/64bits hybrid. All you need to do is adding [arch=amd64,i386] between deb and your mirror URL in /etc/apt/source.list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1345473748.4593.34.ca...@p76-nom-gd.cnrs-imn.fr
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 04:42:28PM +0200, Gaël DONVAL wrote: be ironed out but as far as I am concerned, skype works very well with all the dependencies under my debian 32/64bits hybrid. All you need to do is adding [arch=amd64,i386] between deb and your mirror URL in /etc/apt/source.list Is that documented anywhere, with examples? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120820233659.GA29451@tal
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for your answers. As I'm using an Asus P5K/EPU with quad-core stuff, 64 bits is not supported. I will install a bigmem kernel. Thanks. - -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ - -- If all else fails, try the obvious. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAxJvoACgkQM0LLzLt8MhwS/ACcCcinKJeZfsQz97ttJI7hkJ+c fKMAoJBHsVnwCIEvIkbfhpJo9jhhO/5Y =vlGZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/878vdapybp.fsf@merciadriluca-station.MERCIADRILUCA
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 09:13:30PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 15 aug 12, 05:12:46, Gary Dale wrote: If your computer has a 64bit CPU, you could also install the 64bit version of Debian over the existing. Just don't format your /home. Another option not mentioned yet is to install the -amd64 kernel (assuming the CPU supports it). Works just fine for me. I tried this some time ago, but VirtualBox wouldn't run on 64-bit kernel with 32-bit userland (on host). That's why I quickly switched back to -bigmem/-pae kernel. Maybe VirtualBox doesn't concern you, or it's changed since my tests. -- Jacek Politowski -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120816052732.GA28636@trek.localdomain
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On Mi, 15 aug 12, 14:50:37, Gary Dale wrote: On 15/08/12 02:13 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Another option not mentioned yet is to install the -amd64 kernel (assuming the CPU supports it). Works just fine for me. It works, but why not just upgrade to full 64 bit if you can? It's not a lot more work unless you've installed a lot of extra packages. The upgrade requires a reinstall and I'm not sure my 2 GB RAM are worth it. Besides, I'm still using skype from time to time, which is a pain to install on amd64. All of this will be (has been?) made much simpler by multiarch, but I'd rather not experiment with that shortly before the release. I also used to have another i386 machine. Sharing packages between installs was an additional benefit, but it was replaced by a Raspberry Pi recently. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, As stated in the title, I've got 4 GiB of RAM on this computer. The problem is that I'm using kernel 2.6.32-5-686 which does not support 4 GiB of RAM. Precedently, I had used a bigmem kernel. Here, I simply want to get my 4 GiB of RAM fully recognized in an easy fashion. Is it possible? Thanks. - -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ - -- - From those to whom much is given, much is expected. (Bib. quote, Luke 12:48) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlArWPAACgkQM0LLzLt8MhxcTQCgjBxf0/g6k3R0CdehP+0OjVog dUgAniBfn7UB6rJXFmF11Q8sELGDt1O7 =qEfp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87txw48tn3.fsf@merciadriluca-station.MERCIADRILUCA
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On 15/08/12 04:08 AM, Merciadri Luca wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, As stated in the title, I've got 4 GiB of RAM on this computer. The problem is that I'm using kernel 2.6.32-5-686 which does not support 4 GiB of RAM. Precedently, I had used a bigmem kernel. Here, I simply want to get my 4 GiB of RAM fully recognized in an easy fashion. Is it possible? Thanks. I'd guess you are running Debian/Stable (Squeeze). Simply install the bigmem kernel image (linux-image-686-bigmem). Alternatively, you could upgrade to Wheezy which has the PAE already built in. It looks like Wheezy is getting ready for release and it is quite stable. If your computer has a 64bit CPU, you could also install the 64bit version of Debian over the existing. Just don't format your /home. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502b680e.2030...@rogers.com
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com writes: On 15/08/12 04:08 AM, Merciadri Luca wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, As stated in the title, I've got 4 GiB of RAM on this computer. The problem is that I'm using kernel 2.6.32-5-686 which does not support 4 GiB of RAM. Precedently, I had used a bigmem kernel. Here, I simply want to get my 4 GiB of RAM fully recognized in an easy fashion. Is it possible? Thanks. I'd guess you are running Debian/Stable (Squeeze). Simply install the bigmem kernel image (linux-image-686-bigmem). Alternatively, you could upgrade to Wheezy which has the PAE already built in. It looks like Wheezy is getting ready for release and it is quite stable. If your computer has a 64bit CPU, you could also install the 64bit version of Debian over the existing. Just don't format your /home. Well, it's 32bit stuff here. However, assuming I install the bigmem kernel image, as I did precedently, do I risk anything, that is, is it as simple as an apt-get install, then choosing this new kernel in the GRUB? Thanks. - -- Merciadri Luca See http://www.student.montefiore.ulg.ac.be/~merciadri/ - -- It is better to die on one's feet than live on one's knees. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.5.8 http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlAroLEACgkQM0LLzLt8MhxFfwCgi7K5g/XkK2YQRoSqP9zqPqYo eKwAniV0ZFc/Y/rK8zIqR+PTLYrvJ72s =jTOR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ipck1emm.fsf@merciadriluca-station.MERCIADRILUCA
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On 15/08/12 09:14 AM, Merciadri Luca wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gary Dalegaryd...@rogers.com writes: On 15/08/12 04:08 AM, Merciadri Luca wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, As stated in the title, I've got 4 GiB of RAM on this computer. The problem is that I'm using kernel 2.6.32-5-686 which does not support 4 GiB of RAM. Precedently, I had used a bigmem kernel. Here, I simply want to get my 4 GiB of RAM fully recognized in an easy fashion. Is it possible? Thanks. I'd guess you are running Debian/Stable (Squeeze). Simply install the bigmem kernel image (linux-image-686-bigmem). Alternatively, you could upgrade to Wheezy which has the PAE already built in. It looks like Wheezy is getting ready for release and it is quite stable. If your computer has a 64bit CPU, you could also install the 64bit version of Debian over the existing. Just don't format your /home. Well, it's 32bit stuff here. However, assuming I install the bigmem kernel image, as I did precedently, do I risk anything, that is, is it as simple as an apt-get install, then choosing this new kernel in the GRUB? Thanks. - -- Yes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502bbb3b.9040...@rogers.com
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 15:14:25 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote: Gary Dale garyd...@rogers.com writes: On 15/08/12 04:08 AM, Merciadri Luca wrote: As stated in the title, I've got 4 GiB of RAM on this computer. The problem is that I'm using kernel 2.6.32-5-686 which does not support 4 GiB of RAM. Precedently, I had used a bigmem kernel. Here, I simply want to get my 4 GiB of RAM fully recognized in an easy fashion. Is it possible? In order the full 4 GiB of RAM is recognized from a 32-bits OS (having PAE enabled or not), your motherboard has to provide that functionaly because there's still a small amount of RAM that is used for devices and it has to be remapped from the BIOS. I'd guess you are running Debian/Stable (Squeeze). Simply install the bigmem kernel image (linux-image-686-bigmem). Alternatively, you could upgrade to Wheezy which has the PAE already built in. It looks like Wheezy is getting ready for release and it is quite stable. If your computer has a 64bit CPU, you could also install the 64bit version of Debian over the existing. Just don't format your /home. I would go for 64-bits but only when installing a new system completely from scratch. Well, it's 32bit stuff here. However, assuming I install the bigmem kernel image, as I did precedently, do I risk anything, that is, is it as simple as an apt-get install, then choosing this new kernel in the GRUB? Thanks. I would rather use Synaptic to view in live what's going on :-) Kernels are usually installed in paralel so right after you trigger a new linux-image package there will be a new entry added in GRUB's menu to boot the latest installed kernel and of course, the others. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0ge73$anh$8...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On Mi, 15 aug 12, 05:12:46, Gary Dale wrote: If your computer has a 64bit CPU, you could also install the 64bit version of Debian over the existing. Just don't format your /home. Another option not mentioned yet is to install the -amd64 kernel (assuming the CPU supports it). Works just fine for me. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On 15/08/12 02:13 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 15 aug 12, 05:12:46, Gary Dale wrote: If your computer has a 64bit CPU, you could also install the 64bit version of Debian over the existing. Just don't format your /home. Another option not mentioned yet is to install the -amd64 kernel (assuming the CPU supports it). Works just fine for me. Kind regards, Andrei It works, but why not just upgrade to full 64 bit if you can? It's not a lot more work unless you've installed a lot of extra packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502bef7d.70...@rogers.com
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 02:50:37PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: It works, but why not just upgrade to full 64 bit if you can? It's not a lot more work unless you've installed a lot of extra packages. Not sure if things are better now, but there was a time when some packages were only available in 32bit versions. So running a 64bit kernel to cater for the bigger address space and a 32bit userland can sometimes be the better option. YMMV -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120816000812.GB6970@tal
Re: Managing to get the 4 RAM GiB recognized easily
On 15/08/12 08:08 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 02:50:37PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: It works, but why not just upgrade to full 64 bit if you can? It's not a lot more work unless you've installed a lot of extra packages. Not sure if things are better now, but there was a time when some packages were only available in 32bit versions. So running a 64bit kernel to cater for the bigger address space and a 32bit userland can sometimes be the better option. YMMV Been running straight 64bit for a couple of years now without problems. There might be things that might require 32bit but it's handled pretty seamlessly these days. You install the 64bit packages and they take care of the problems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502c6a84.4090...@rogers.com
