Re: Re: midnight commander

[mmcclain . 46]

Under buster my prompt is mike@RPI4b2:~>  on the CL whether it be a text VT or 
an xterm.
My prompt in mc is the same whether launched from the CL or via the desktop 
menu.
Under bookworm root's prompt whether on the CL or in mc is root@RPI4b2:~> .
Under bookworm my prompt is mike@RPI4b3:~>  on the CL whether it be a text VT 
or an xterm.
My prompt in mc is '$' whether launched from the CL or via the desktop menu.
I've looked everywhere I can think of, mc docs, configs, anything that looks 
like text trying to find the problem with no joy.
If noone here comes up with a clue I guess my next stop is 
midnight-commander.org but I need to do that from the bookworm computer which 
doesn't yet have working email.

Y'all be well,
Mike

Re: Re: midnight commander

[Mike McClain]

Re: Re: midnight commander

[Mike McClain]

Re: midnight commander

[David]

On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 04:33,  wrote:

> I'm running bookworm on a RaspberryPi 4b.

> mike@rpi4b3:~> uname -a
> Linux MikesPI 6.1.0-rpi4-rpi-v8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian 1:6.1.54-1+rpt2 
> (2023-10-05) aarch64 GNU/Linux

> There are a couple of things I don't understand and am hoping one of
> you out there can clue me in or at least suggest a direction to
> explore.

> MC loads for root in under a second but for user mike it takes 10
> seconds to come up whether on the CL ir on the desktop.

> On the CL my prompt is "mike@rpi4b3:~> " but in MC it is only "$"
> while root's in MC is like mike's on the CL.

> I've looked at the MC docs and all the MC config files I can find but
> not found anything to suggest the differences in root's and mike's
> usage of MC. The ~/.config/mc/ini files are identical.

> When I run buster on a Pi I don't see these differences but realize
> they are likely different versions of MC.

Hi Mike,

What you see as a command prompt in MC is controlled by the value of the
parameter PS1 in the environment that is externally provided to MC when it is
executed.

How to specify that value of PS1 is given will depend on from where you
start MC.
- perhaps in a virtual linux console
- perhaps in a terminal emulator program running under a GUI desktop

You can see and change the value of PS1 by doing this in MC:
- press control-O to have MC start a shell
- enter the command 'echo $PS1' (without the quotes)
- you can change the value of PS1 using a command like 'PS1=foo' (without
  the quotes)
- you can play with it because any changes you make will only affect the
  current instance of MC
- press control-O to toggle between the shell and MC

The content of PS1 is documented in 'man bash', search for PS1 and/or
PROMPTING.

That's all I have time to write. I have nothing to say about the delay,
that's a different issue.

If you want to ask how to set the value of PS1 before MC starts, you will
need to tell us exactly from where you start MC, as I mentioned above.

midnight commander

[mike . junk . 46]

I'm running bookworm on a RaspberryPi 4b.
mike@rpi4b3:~> uname -a
Linux MikesPI 6.1.0-rpi4-rpi-v8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian 1:6.1.54-1+rpt2 
(2023-10-05) aarch64 GNU/Linux
There are a couple of things I don't understand and am hoping one of you 
out there can clue me in or at least suggest a direction to explore.
MC loads for root in under a second but for user mike it takes 10 seconds 
to come up whether on the CL ir on the desktop.
On the CL my prompt is "mike@rpi4b3:~> " but in MC it is only "$" while 
root's in MC is like mike's on the CL.
I've looked at the MC docs and all the MC config files I can find but not 
found anything to suggest the differences in root's and mike's usage of MC. The 
~/.config/mc/ini files are identical.
When I run buster on a Pi I don't see these differences but realize they 
are likely different versions of MC.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Mike

Re: midnight commander editor

[mick crane]

On 2020-07-28 12:39, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Ma, 28 iul 20, 13:42:07, Reco wrote:

Hi.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 11:00:30AM +0100, mick crane wrote:
> hello,
> using mc to select files to edit mc editor doesn't recognize vim
> syntax colouring so have to press enter to ignore and get the error
> messages in terminal.
> Any way to have mc recognize colo, syntax options in ~/.vimrc ?


[...]

There is no way of doing what you want, syntax highlighting is 
radically

different in mcedit and vim.


What can be done though is to set 'vim' as the default editor for mc.


Ahhh!

cheers
mick

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Re: midnight commander editor

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Ma, 28 iul 20, 13:42:07, Reco wrote:
>   Hi.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 11:00:30AM +0100, mick crane wrote:
> > hello,
> > using mc to select files to edit mc editor doesn't recognize vim 
> > syntax colouring so have to press enter to ignore and get the error 
> > messages in terminal.
> > Any way to have mc recognize colo, syntax options in ~/.vimrc ?

[...]

> There is no way of doing what you want, syntax highlighting is radically
> different in mcedit and vim.

What can be done though is to set 'vim' as the default editor for mc.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: midnight commander editor

[Reco]

Hi.

On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 11:00:30AM +0100, mick crane wrote:
> hello,
> using mc to select files to edit mc editor doesn't recognize vim syntax 
> colouring so have to press enter to ignore and get the error messages in 
> terminal.
> Any way to have mc recognize colo, syntax options in ~/.vimrc ?

mcedit(1), chapter SYNTAX HIGHLIGHTING:

wholechars abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ_

# default colors
define  comment   brown
context default
  keyword  whole  if   yellow
  keyword  whole  else yellow
  keyword  whole  for  yellow
  keyword  whole  whileyellow
  keyword  whole  do   yellow
  keyword  whole  switch   yellow
  keyword  whole  case yellow
  keyword  whole  static   yellow
  keyword  whole  extern   yellow
  keyword {brightcyan
  keyword }brightcyan
  keyword '*'  green


Does it have anything in common with a typical syntax/*vim file?

syn match   plsqlKeyword "\"
syn match   plsqlKeyword "\.COUNT\>"hs=s+1
syn match   plsqlKeyword "\.EXISTS\>"hs=s+1
syn match   plsqlKeyword "\.FIRST\>"hs=s+1
syn match   plsqlKeyword "\.LAST\>"hs=s+1
syn match   plsqlKeyword "\.DELETE\>"hs=s+1
syn match   plsqlKeyword "\.PREV\>"hs=s+1
syn match   plsqlKeyword "\.NEXT\>"hs=s+1


There is no way of doing what you want, syntax highlighting is radically
different in mcedit and vim.

Reco

midnight commander editor

[mick crane]

hello,
using mc to select files to edit mc editor doesn't recognize vim syntax 
colouring so have to press enter to ignore and get the error messages in 
terminal.

Any way to have mc recognize colo, syntax options in ~/.vimrc ?

mick
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Re: no mouse in midnight commander

[Frank McCormick]

On 2/1/20 2:39 PM, Joe wrote:

On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 13:46:52 -0500
Frank McCormick  wrote:


I noticed this morning that my mouse no longer works in MC. When I
use it, it leaves keycodes on mc's command line at
the bottom of the screen.

Because I use Rox-filer to put icons on the desktop, I call
MC from a small script file in $home which loads an xterm, with some
parameters to put up a bigger MC on the screen.

This is the script at the moment

xterm -g 140x40+140+20 -fn 10x20 -e mc -x

I am running Debian Sid fully updated.




How fully? My mc (in Gnome Terminal) looks OK, but I haven't upgraded
today or yesterday, as apt wants to remove 84 packages. There looks to
be some kind of logjam involving KDE and/or Qt.



  Updated as of this morning...I don't run KDE or any QT stuff so I 
didn't experience that.


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Re: no mouse in midnight commander

[Joe]

On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 13:46:52 -0500
Frank McCormick  wrote:

> I noticed this morning that my mouse no longer works in MC. When I
> use it, it leaves keycodes on mc's command line at
> the bottom of the screen.
> 
> Because I use Rox-filer to put icons on the desktop, I call
> MC from a small script file in $home which loads an xterm, with some 
> parameters to put up a bigger MC on the screen.
> 
> This is the script at the moment
> 
> xterm -g 140x40+140+20 -fn 10x20 -e mc -x
> 
> I am running Debian Sid fully updated.
> 
> 

How fully? My mc (in Gnome Terminal) looks OK, but I haven't upgraded
today or yesterday, as apt wants to remove 84 packages. There looks to
be some kind of logjam involving KDE and/or Qt.

-- 
Joe

no mouse in midnight commander

[Frank McCormick]

I noticed this morning that my mouse no longer works in MC. When I use 
it, it leaves keycodes on mc's command line at

the bottom of the screen.

Because I use Rox-filer to put icons on the desktop, I call
MC from a small script file in $home which loads an xterm, with some 
parameters to put up a bigger MC on the screen.


This is the script at the moment

xterm -g 140x40+140+20 -fn 10x20 -e mc -x

I am running Debian Sid fully updated.


--
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Re: user menu in midnight commander

[sp113438]

On Thu, 2 Feb 2017 23:02:23 +0100
sp113438 <sp113...@telfort.nl> wrote:

> Hi,,
> I have this problem. I have a command:
> 
> find -type f -depth -maxdepth 1 -execdir bash -c ' conv_name=$(printf
> %s "$1" | iconv -f utf8 -t latin1 | iconv -f cp1251);  mv -v -- "$1"
> "$conv_name" ' -- {} ';'
> 
> (it is for the conversion of cyrillic filenames)
> 
> and I want to add it in the user menu of midnight commander.
> It should apply on all files in the open directory.
> 
> Any ideas on how to do this?
> 
> I tried to add this to the user menu, it shows up when F2 pressed, but
> it does not work, it asks for parameters:
> 
> + ! t t
> z   Cyrillic convert
> CMD=%{find -type f -depth -execdir bash -c '
> conv_name=$(printf %s "$1" | iconv -f utf8 -t latin1 | iconv -f
> cp1251);  mv -v -- "$1" "$conv_name" ' -- {} ';'Enter command} $CMD %t
> 

This doesn't work either:

+ t t
W   CyrConv
set %t; CMD=%{find -type f -depth -execdir bash -c '
conv_name=$(printf %s "$1" | iconv -f utf8 -t latin1 | iconv -f
cp1251);  mv -v -- "$1" "$conv_name" ' -- {} ';'} 
while [ -n "$1" ]; do
$CMD "$1" 
shift
done

user menu in midnight commander

[sp113438]

Hi,,
I have this problem. I have a command:

find -type f -depth -maxdepth 1 -execdir bash -c ' conv_name=$(printf
%s "$1" | iconv -f utf8 -t latin1 | iconv -f cp1251);  mv -v -- "$1"
"$conv_name" ' -- {} ';'

(it is for the conversion of cyrillic filenames)

and I want to add it in the user menu of midnight commander.
It should apply on all files in the open directory.

Any ideas on how to do this?

I tried to add this to the user menu, it shows up when F2 pressed, but
it does not work, it asks for parameters:

+ ! t t
z   Cyrillic convert
CMD=%{find -type f -depth -execdir bash -c ' conv_name=$(printf
  %s "$1" | iconv -f utf8 -t latin1 | iconv -f cp1251);  mv -v -- "$1"
  "$conv_name" ' -- {} ';'Enter command} $CMD %t

Re: Re: default image viewer in midnight commander-SOLVED

[sp113...@telfort.nl]

>On 07/10/16 02:58 PM, sp113...@telfort.nl wrote:
 I have in /etc/mc/mc.ext:

 include/image
 Open=feh %f
 View=feh %f ALL_FORMATS

 but that does not help
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what your 'include' directive is doing (it's impossible to
>>> know without seeing the rest of your file). Try replacing that line with a
>>> simpler 'shell/.jpg' or similar, restart mc, and see if it works.
>>>
>>> Celejar
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I now have in  /etc/mc/mc.ext:
>>
>> shell/.jpg
>> Open=feh %f
>> View=feh %f ALL_FORMATS
>>
>> and images open with ristretto image viewer. Not exactly what I expected 
>> open with image viewer feh), but it will do for the moment.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> John Smith
>>
>
>My MC opens images in FEH all the time. I set it up this way:
>
>In ~/.config/mc/mc.ext
>
>### Images ###
>
>type/^GIF
>   Include=image
>
>type/^JPEG
>   View=%view{ascii} /usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh view jpeg
>   Include=image
>
>type/^PC\ bitmap
>   Include=image
>
>type/^PNG
>   Include=image
>
>type/^JNG
>   Include=image
>
>type/^MNG
>   Include=image
>
>type/^TIFF
>   Include=image
>
>type/^PBM
>   Include=image
>
>type/^PGM
>   Include=image
>
>type/^PPM
>   Include=image
>
>type/^Netpbm
>   Include=image
>
>shell/.xcf
>   Open=/usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh open xcf
>
>shell/.xbm
>   Open=/usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh open xbm
>
>shell/.xpm
>   Include=image
>   View=/usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh view xpm %f
>
>shell/.ico
>   Include=image
>
>shell/i/.svg
>   View=%view{ascii} /usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh view svg
>   Open=/usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh open svg
>
>include/image
>   Open=feh %f
>   View=%view{ascii} /usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh view ALL_FORMATS
>
>
>Hope it helps.
>
>

Thanks!
This did the trick!

John Smith

Re: default image viewer in midnight commander

[Hans]

I suppose, there is a menu in mc itself, where you can edit all the 
connections to a programm according to its ending.

Look at "Command", then "Edit extension file" (if you use English version). If  
you do not find it, cause your Debian is in another language, start mc by using 
LANG=C mc.

Good luck!

Hans

Re: default image viewer in midnight commander

[David Wright]

On Fri 07 Oct 2016 at 14:36:45 (-0400), Celejar wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 19:53:05 +0200 (CEST)
> "sp113...@telfort.nl"  wrote:
> 
> > >> Hello,
> > >> I have difficulties with mc's default image viewer.
> 
> > >Try /etc/mc/mc.ext which calls /usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh
> 
> Either there, or (my preference) ~/.config/mc/mc.ext

I can't be sure whether the existence of the latter prevents the /etc
file being read, or just overrides it. In any case, the first matching
rule is what is used, so if it's there it needs to be correct.

> > I have in /etc/mc/mc.ext:
> > 
> > include/image
> > Open=feh %f
> > View=feh %f ALL_FORMATS
> > 
> > but that does not help
> 
> I'm not sure what your 'include' directive is doing (it's impossible to
> know without seeing the rest of your file). Try replacing that line with a
> simpler 'shell/.jpg' or similar, restart mc, and see if it works.

It looks as if you've just replaced the shell command with feh.
I don't know what feh thinks of ALL_FORMATS, but it needs removing.

Rant: I won't have feh on my system. man feh says
"feh — image viewer and cataloguer" but it will
happily modify your pictures (unless you set
-r--r--r--) without a word, ie it's an EDITOR,
not a viewer.

Cheers,
David.

Re: default image viewer in midnight commander

[Frank McCormick]

On 07/10/16 02:58 PM, sp113...@telfort.nl wrote:

I have in /etc/mc/mc.ext:

include/image
Open=feh %f
View=feh %f ALL_FORMATS

but that does not help


I'm not sure what your 'include' directive is doing (it's impossible to
know without seeing the rest of your file). Try replacing that line with a
simpler 'shell/.jpg' or similar, restart mc, and see if it works.

Celejar




I now have in  /etc/mc/mc.ext:

shell/.jpg
Open=feh %f
View=feh %f ALL_FORMATS

and images open with ristretto image viewer. Not exactly what I expected open 
with image viewer feh), but it will do for the moment.

Thanks!

John Smith



My MC opens images in FEH all the time. I set it up this way:

In ~/.config/mc/mc.ext

### Images ###

type/^GIF
Include=image

type/^JPEG
View=%view{ascii} /usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh view jpeg
Include=image

type/^PC\ bitmap
Include=image

type/^PNG
Include=image

type/^JNG
Include=image

type/^MNG
Include=image

type/^TIFF
Include=image

type/^PBM
Include=image

type/^PGM
Include=image

type/^PPM
Include=image

type/^Netpbm
Include=image

shell/.xcf
Open=/usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh open xcf

shell/.xbm
Open=/usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh open xbm

shell/.xpm
Include=image
View=/usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh view xpm %f

shell/.ico
Include=image

shell/i/.svg
View=%view{ascii} /usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh view svg
Open=/usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh open svg

include/image
Open=feh %f
View=%view{ascii} /usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh view ALL_FORMATS


Hope it helps.

Re: Re: default image viewer in midnight commander

[sp113...@telfort.nl]

>> I have in /etc/mc/mc.ext:
>> 
>> include/image
>> Open=feh %f
>> View=feh %f ALL_FORMATS
>> 
>> but that does not help
>
>I'm not sure what your 'include' directive is doing (it's impossible to
>know without seeing the rest of your file). Try replacing that line with a
>simpler 'shell/.jpg' or similar, restart mc, and see if it works.
>
>Celejar
>
>

I now have in  /etc/mc/mc.ext:

shell/.jpg
Open=feh %f
View=feh %f ALL_FORMATS

and images open with ristretto image viewer. Not exactly what I expected open 
with image viewer feh), but it will do for the moment.

Thanks!

John Smith

Re: default image viewer in midnight commander

[Celejar]

On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 19:53:05 +0200 (CEST)
"sp113...@telfort.nl"  wrote:

> >> Hello,
> >> I have difficulties with mc's default image viewer.

> >Try /etc/mc/mc.ext which calls /usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh

Either there, or (my preference) ~/.config/mc/mc.ext

> I have in /etc/mc/mc.ext:
> 
> include/image
> Open=feh %f
> View=feh %f ALL_FORMATS
> 
> but that does not help

I'm not sure what your 'include' directive is doing (it's impossible to
know without seeing the rest of your file). Try replacing that line with a
simpler 'shell/.jpg' or similar, restart mc, and see if it works.

Celejar

Re: default image viewer in midnight commander

[Joe]

On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 19:53:05 +0200 (CEST)
"sp113...@telfort.nl"  wrote:

> >> Hello,
> >> I have difficulties with mc's default image viewer.
> >> I want to use feh, but default is gimp, firefox or wine internet
> >> explorer. Wine is not even installed!
> >> I can not find where to change the default.
> >> I have mc directories in:
> >> ~/.local/share/mc
> >> ~/.config/mc
> >> /etc/mc/
> >> usr/lib/mc/
> >> /usr/share/mc/
> >> Please help me solve the issue.
> >> Thanks!  
> >
> >Try /etc/mc/mc.ext which calls /usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh
> >
> >-- 
> >Joe
> >
> >  
> I have in /etc/mc/mc.ext:
> 
> include/image
> Open=feh %f
> View=feh %f ALL_FORMATS
> 
> but that does not help
> 

Sorry, I can't help any further, mc doesn't open images at all for me,
and I've never worried about fixing it. I use it for admin work only.

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Re: Re: default image viewer in midnight commander

[sp113...@telfort.nl]

>> Hello,
>> I have difficulties with mc's default image viewer.
>> I want to use feh, but default is gimp, firefox or wine internet
>> explorer. Wine is not even installed!
>> I can not find where to change the default.
>> I have mc directories in:
>> ~/.local/share/mc
>> ~/.config/mc
>> /etc/mc/
>> usr/lib/mc/
>> /usr/share/mc/
>> Please help me solve the issue.
>> Thanks!
>
>Try /etc/mc/mc.ext which calls /usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh
>
>-- 
>Joe
>
>
I have in /etc/mc/mc.ext:

include/image
Open=feh %f
View=feh %f ALL_FORMATS

but that does not help

Re: default image viewer in midnight commander

[Joe]

On Fri, 7 Oct 2016 14:20:58 +0200 (CEST)
"sp113...@telfort.nl"  wrote:

> Hello,
> I have difficulties with mc's default image viewer.
> I want to use feh, but default is gimp, firefox or wine internet
> explorer. Wine is not even installed!
> I can not find where to change the default.
> I have mc directories in:
> ~/.local/share/mc
> ~/.config/mc
> /etc/mc/
> usr/lib/mc/
> /usr/share/mc/
> Please help me solve the issue.
> Thanks!

Try /etc/mc/mc.ext which calls /usr/lib/mc/ext.d/image.sh

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default image viewer in midnight commander

[sp113...@telfort.nl]

Hello,
I have difficulties with mc's default image viewer.
I want to use feh, but default is gimp, firefox or wine internet explorer.
Wine is not even installed!
I can not find where to change the default.
I have mc directories in:
~/.local/share/mc
~/.config/mc
/etc/mc/
usr/lib/mc/
/usr/share/mc/
Please help me solve the issue.
Thanks!

KDE Konsole et Midnight Commander

[Bernard Schoenacker]

bonjour,

comment désactiver la touche  pour que mc soit efficient avec la
konsole (xterm) KDE ?

merci de votre aimable attention


lien concernant mc:
https://debian-facile.org/doc:systeme:mc


désolé, mais je n'ai pas trouvé de rtfm probant sur ce point de détail 

slt
bernard

Re: Midnight Commander segfaults

[Camaleón]

El Mon, 27 May 2013 14:43:19 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:

 El lun, 27-05-2013 a las 17:09 +, Camaleón escribió:
 
  Bien, pues he notado que MC termina muy a menudo con fallos de
  segmentación en operaciones sencillas (p. ej., al eliminar un
  archivo con F8 o copiar con F5). En cambio, accediendo a las mismas
  operaciones desde el propio menú de MC (F9) éstas se efectuaban sin
  problemas.
 
 (...)
 
 En el syslog aparece registrado el fallo:
 
 root@stt005:~# grep -i segfault /var/log/syslog 
 May 26 00:02:27 stt005 kernel: [27644.778946] mc[31266]: segfault at 
 7f530001 ip
 7f530001 sp 7fff0333c588 error 14 in
 libXdmcp.so.6.0.0[7f53deff5000+5000] 

(...)

 Pues menos mal, pensaba que eran imaginaciones mías O:-)
 
 Voy a ver que encuentro en Google y si no logro resolverlo me voy al
 BTS.

El informe de fallos:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=710032

 uso el mc prácticamente a diario, en amd64 y 386, cero problemas. Pero
 es en testing y no lo actualizo desde el 15 de mayo (me da flojera
 actualizar cada menos de 2 semanas :P), ¿ya descartaste que no sea una
 memoria molestando o algún otro problema de hardware?

¿Te refieres a la RAM? Por cierto, el equipo usa módulos ECC.

Pero no, no lo creo, tendría otros síntomas extraños y sólo mc segfaultea 
de vez en cuando. A ver si me dan alguna pista en el BTS.

Saludos,

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Midnight Commander segfaults

[Camaleón]

Hola,

Sigo instalando wheezies en los equipos y este fin de semana le ha 
tocado el turno a una estación de trabajo que realiza funciones mixtas: 
lleva entorno gráfico (XFCE) pero también cosicas de servidor: postfix
+sa+fetchmail+cyrus, hylafax... así que he tenido que tirar bastante de 
MC ya que me facilita mucho las funciones de copiar/pegar/eliminar 
estando como root evitando que cometa algún dedazo y haga una tontería.

Bien, pues he notado que MC termina muy a menudo con fallos de 
segmentación en operaciones sencillas (p. ej., al eliminar un archivo 
con F8 o copiar con F5). En cambio, accediendo a las mismas operaciones 
desde el propio menú de MC (F9) éstas se efectuaban sin problemas.

¿Y qué es lo que pasa exactamente? Pues no mucho, es decir, cuando se 
produce un fallo de segmentación no se ejecuta la acción (si es la de 
eliminar un archivo, el archivo permanece en el disco) y visualmente se 
sale de MC.

¿Alguien más que haya notado este comportamiento?

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Re: Midnight Commander segfaults

[Camaleón]

El Mon, 27 May 2013 16:36:43 +, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 Bien, pues he notado que MC termina muy a menudo con fallos de
 segmentación en operaciones sencillas (p. ej., al eliminar un archivo
 con F8 o copiar con F5). En cambio, accediendo a las mismas operaciones
 desde el propio menú de MC (F9) éstas se efectuaban sin problemas.

(...)

En el syslog aparece registrado el fallo:

root@stt005:~# grep -i segfault /var/log/syslog
May 26 00:02:27 stt005 kernel: [27644.778946] mc[31266]: segfault at 
7f530001 ip 7f530001 sp 7fff0333c588 error 14 in 
libXdmcp.so.6.0.0[7f53deff5000+5000]
May 26 00:02:48 stt005 kernel: [27666.206250] mc[31283]: segfault at 
7f420001 ip 7f420001 sp 7fff28f87d98 error 14 in 
libXdmcp.so.6.0.0[7f42e1b21000+5000]
May 26 16:45:43 stt005 kernel: [28168.822388] mc[10579]: segfault at 
7ffc0021 ip 7ffcbb3b9450 sp 7fff2ef06210 error 4 in 
libc-2.13.so[7ffcbb38d000+18]
May 26 16:46:07 stt005 kernel: [28192.872896] mc[10838]: segfault at 
7fb60021 ip 7fb6e102a450 sp 7fff23286230 error 4 in 
libc-2.13.so[7fb6e0ffe000+18]
May 26 16:46:38 stt005 kernel: [28223.853152] mc[10848]: segfault at 
7ff40021 ip 7ff4831f7450 sp 7fffbfd7d120 error 4 in 
libc-2.13.so[7ff4831cb000+18]
May 26 16:47:29 stt005 kernel: [28274.903198] mc[10923]: segfault at 
7f270021 ip 7f27666ea450 sp 7fff501045b0 error 4 in 
libc-2.13.so[7f27666be000+18]
May 26 16:48:21 stt005 kernel: [28326.890428] mc[10934]: segfault at 
7f4f0021 ip 7f4f11031450 sp 7fff4fa30080 error 4 in 
libc-2.13.so[7f4f11005000+18]
May 27 09:36:24 stt005 kernel: [ 9748.068708] mc[4206]: segfault at 
7f910009 ip 7f91542b53a7 sp 7fff34ed0f20 error 4 in 
libc-2.13.so[7f915423c000+18]

Pues menos mal, pensaba que eran imaginaciones mías O:-)

Voy a ver que encuentro en Google y si no logro resolverlo me voy al BTS.

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Re: Midnight Commander segfaults

[Gonzalo Rivero]

El lun, 27-05-2013 a las 17:09 +, Camaleón escribió: 
 El Mon, 27 May 2013 16:36:43 +, Camaleón escribió:
 
 (...)
 
  Bien, pues he notado que MC termina muy a menudo con fallos de
  segmentación en operaciones sencillas (p. ej., al eliminar un archivo
  con F8 o copiar con F5). En cambio, accediendo a las mismas operaciones
  desde el propio menú de MC (F9) éstas se efectuaban sin problemas.
 
 (...)
 
 En el syslog aparece registrado el fallo:
 
 root@stt005:~# grep -i segfault /var/log/syslog
 May 26 00:02:27 stt005 kernel: [27644.778946] mc[31266]: segfault at 
 7f530001 ip 7f530001 sp 7fff0333c588 error 14 in 
 libXdmcp.so.6.0.0[7f53deff5000+5000]
 May 26 00:02:48 stt005 kernel: [27666.206250] mc[31283]: segfault at 
 7f420001 ip 7f420001 sp 7fff28f87d98 error 14 in 
 libXdmcp.so.6.0.0[7f42e1b21000+5000]
 May 26 16:45:43 stt005 kernel: [28168.822388] mc[10579]: segfault at 
 7ffc0021 ip 7ffcbb3b9450 sp 7fff2ef06210 error 4 in 
 libc-2.13.so[7ffcbb38d000+18]
 May 26 16:46:07 stt005 kernel: [28192.872896] mc[10838]: segfault at 
 7fb60021 ip 7fb6e102a450 sp 7fff23286230 error 4 in 
 libc-2.13.so[7fb6e0ffe000+18]
 May 26 16:46:38 stt005 kernel: [28223.853152] mc[10848]: segfault at 
 7ff40021 ip 7ff4831f7450 sp 7fffbfd7d120 error 4 in 
 libc-2.13.so[7ff4831cb000+18]
 May 26 16:47:29 stt005 kernel: [28274.903198] mc[10923]: segfault at 
 7f270021 ip 7f27666ea450 sp 7fff501045b0 error 4 in 
 libc-2.13.so[7f27666be000+18]
 May 26 16:48:21 stt005 kernel: [28326.890428] mc[10934]: segfault at 
 7f4f0021 ip 7f4f11031450 sp 7fff4fa30080 error 4 in 
 libc-2.13.so[7f4f11005000+18]
 May 27 09:36:24 stt005 kernel: [ 9748.068708] mc[4206]: segfault at 
 7f910009 ip 7f91542b53a7 sp 7fff34ed0f20 error 4 in 
 libc-2.13.so[7f915423c000+18]
 
 Pues menos mal, pensaba que eran imaginaciones mías O:-)
 
 Voy a ver que encuentro en Google y si no logro resolverlo me voy al BTS.
 
 Saludos,
uso el mc prácticamente a diario, en amd64 y 386, cero problemas. Pero
es en testing y no lo actualizo desde el 15 de mayo (me da flojera
actualizar cada menos de 2 semanas :P), ¿ya descartaste que no sea una
memoria molestando o algún otro problema de hardware?

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Re: Midnight Commander segfaults

[Santiago José López Borrazás]

El 27/05/13 19:43, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
 uso el mc prácticamente a diario, en amd64 y 386, cero problemas. Pero
 es en testing y no lo actualizo desde el 15 de mayo (me da flojera
 actualizar cada menos de 2 semanas :P), ¿ya descartaste que no sea una
 memoria molestando o algún otro problema de hardware?

En Wheezy '0' problemas también. No falla.

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Re: Midnight Commander segfaults

[Santiago José López Borrazás]

El 27/05/13 20:47, Santiago José López Borrazás escribió:
 En Wheezy '0' problemas también. No falla.

Perdón, me refería a Jessie. :þ

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[Raffaele Morelli]

Hi,

how can I use mc with ssh rssa/dsa keys?

regards
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Re: midnight commander and ssh keys

[Greg Donoghue]

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 11:28:21AM +0100, Raffaele Morelli wrote:
Hi,
how can I use mc with ssh rssa/dsa keys?
regards

Once you've generated your keys and installed them, mc will use them to
connect. In mc press F9 and select Shell link...

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Re: midnight commander and ssh keys

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Greg Donoghue wrote:

On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 11:28:21AM +0100, Raffaele Morelli wrote:

   Hi,
   how can I use mc with ssh rssa/dsa keys?
   regards


Once you've generated your keys and installed them, mc will use them to
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Good info. Thanks

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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

[Scott Ferguson]

On 09/06/11 04:43, Sven Joachim wrote:
 On 2011-06-08 19:51 +0200, Brian wrote:
 
 On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 11:58:42 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:


 Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
 trying to look inside deb files ? This has been going on , in my case
 for two months now. Is there a solution ?

 It's the time to use ar -x. Or be patient.
 
 Nah, neither.  This is free software after all…
 
 http://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/2552
 
 …and there's even a patch available!  The bug is in a perl script
 (/usr/lib/mc/extfs.d/deb) that you can edit directly if you don't care
 about debsums complaining:
 
snipped

As I don't have any problems - does that mean this only affects Wheezy
builds?

NOTE: I'm running ext4


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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

[Sven Joachim]

On 2011-06-09 09:19 +0200, Scott Ferguson wrote:

 As I don't have any problems - does that mean this only affects Wheezy
 builds?

It only affects Wheezy installs, more precisely systems with perl 5.12
or later.

Sven


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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

[Frank McCormick]

On Thu, 09 Jun 2011 17:19:19 +1000
Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 09/06/11 04:43, Sven Joachim wrote:
  On 2011-06-08 19:51 +0200, Brian wrote:
  
  On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 11:58:42 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
 
 
  Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
  trying to look inside deb files ? This has been going on , in my case
  for two months now. Is there a solution ?
 
  It's the time to use ar -x. Or be patient.
  
  Nah, neither.  This is free software after all…
  
  http://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/2552
  
  …and there's even a patch available!  The bug is in a perl script
  (/usr/lib/mc/extfs.d/deb) that you can edit directly if you don't care
  about debsums complaining:
  
 snipped
 
 As I don't have any problems - does that mean this only affects Wheezy
 builds?
 
 NOTE: I'm running ext4

  I'm running Sid (up to date) - it's now fixed thanks to a patch.
But I don't understand why it doesn't affect Wheezy ??


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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2011-06-08 19:51 +0200, Brian wrote:


On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 11:58:42 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:


Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
trying to look inside deb files ? This has been going on , in my case
for two months now. Is there a solution ?

It's the time to use ar -x. Or be patient.


Nah, neither.  This is free software after all…


http://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/2552


…and there's even a patch available!  The bug is in a perl script
(/usr/lib/mc/extfs.d/deb) that you can edit directly if you don't care
about debsums complaining:

--8---cut here---start-8---
--- deb.orig2010-09-08 00:00:00.0 +0200
+++ deb 2011-05-10 15:46:07.0 +0200
@@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
{
while(PIPEIN)
{
-   split;
+   @_ = split;
 
 			$perm=$_[0]; $owgr=$_[1]; $size=$_[2];

if($_[3] =~ /^\d\d\d\d\-/) { # New tar format
@@ -100,7 +100,7 @@
 {
while(PIPEIN)
{
-   split;
+   @_  = split;
$size=$_[0];
last if $size =~ /:/;
next if $size !~ /\d+/;
--8---cut here---end---8---

Rebuilding the package is of course cleaner, but I was too lazy to
do that.



Thanks. I missed that patch.
Still running mc 2:4.6.2~git20080311-4 and for that the deb script is in 


/usr/share/mc/extfs.
Works great.

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Midnight commander parse errors

[Frank McCormick]

Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
trying to look inside deb files ? This has been going on , in my case
for two months now. Is there a solution ?



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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Frank McCormick wrote:

Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
trying to look inside deb files ? This has been going on , in my case
for two months now. Is there a solution ?





You're certainly not the only one.
I have not found a solution: it does not seem to be dependent on the 
version of mc.


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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

[Sven Joachim]

On 2011-06-08 17:58 +0200, Frank McCormick wrote:

 Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
 trying to look inside deb files ?

No, you're not alone.

 This has been going on , in my case
 for two months now. Is there a solution ?

See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=626171.

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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

[Brian]

On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 11:58:42 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:

 
 Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
 trying to look inside deb files ? This has been going on , in my case
 for two months now. Is there a solution ?

It's the time to use ar -x. Or be patient.

http://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/2552


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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

Am Mittwoch, 8. Juni 2011 schrieb Brian:
 On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 11:58:42 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
  Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
  trying to look inside deb files ? This has been going on , in my case
  for two months now. Is there a solution ?
 
 It's the time to use ar -x. Or be patient.
 
 http://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/2552

You are not the only one. I am missing this option, too. 
It was quite comforttable for a quick look into a package.

Hope, it will be fixed soon.

Cheers 

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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

[Sven Joachim]

On 2011-06-08 19:51 +0200, Brian wrote:

 On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 11:58:42 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:

 
 Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
 trying to look inside deb files ? This has been going on , in my case
 for two months now. Is there a solution ?

 It's the time to use ar -x. Or be patient.

Nah, neither.  This is free software after all…

 http://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/2552

…and there's even a patch available!  The bug is in a perl script
(/usr/lib/mc/extfs.d/deb) that you can edit directly if you don't care
about debsums complaining:

--8---cut here---start-8---
--- deb.orig2010-09-08 00:00:00.0 +0200
+++ deb 2011-05-10 15:46:07.0 +0200
@@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
{
while(PIPEIN)
{
-   split;
+   @_ = split;
 
$perm=$_[0]; $owgr=$_[1]; $size=$_[2];
if($_[3] =~ /^\d\d\d\d\-/) { # New tar format
@@ -100,7 +100,7 @@
 {
while(PIPEIN)
{
-   split;
+   @_  = split;
$size=$_[0];
last if $size =~ /:/;
next if $size !~ /\d+/;
--8---cut here---end---8---

Rebuilding the package is of course cleaner, but I was too lazy to
do that.

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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

[Frank McCormick]

On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:43:41 +0200
Sven Joachim svenj...@gmx.de wrote:

 On 2011-06-08 19:51 +0200, Brian wrote:
 
  On Wed 08 Jun 2011 at 11:58:42 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
 
  
  Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
  trying to look inside deb files ? This has been going on , in my case
  for two months now. Is there a solution ?
 
  It's the time to use ar -x. Or be patient.
 
 Nah, neither.  This is free software after all…
 
  http://www.midnight-commander.org/ticket/2552
 
 …and there's even a patch available!  The bug is in a perl script
 (/usr/lib/mc/extfs.d/deb) that you can edit directly if you don't care
 about debsums complaining:
 
 --8---cut here---start-8---
 --- deb.orig  2010-09-08 00:00:00.0 +0200
 +++ deb   2011-05-10 15:46:07.0 +0200
 @@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
   {
   while(PIPEIN)
   {
 - split;
 + @_ = split;
  
   $perm=$_[0]; $owgr=$_[1]; $size=$_[2];
   if($_[3] =~ /^\d\d\d\d\-/) { # New tar format
 @@ -100,7 +100,7 @@
  {
 while(PIPEIN)
 {
 -   split;
 +   @_  = split;
 $size=$_[0];
 last if $size =~ /:/;
 next if $size !~ /\d+/;
 --8---cut here---end---8---
 
 Rebuilding the package is of course cleaner, but I was too lazy to
 do that.

  I was too lazy even to use patch. I edited the file directly. It
works! Thanks


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Re: Midnight commander parse errors

[Scott Ferguson]

On 09/06/11 01:58, Frank McCormick wrote:
 
 Am I the only one still seeing Midnight Commander parse errors when
 trying to look inside deb files ? This has been going on , in my case
 for two months now. Is there a solution ?
 
 
 
No problems here
Squeeze with Iceweasel and Icedove backports, i386, KDE.
dpkg --get-selections | grep zip
bzip2   install
gzipinstall
libzip1 install
p7zip-full  install
unzip   install
zip install

tiny image attached:-
In left pane I've opened a .deb file
and menu is open showing installed compression formats.

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Re: [HS?]midnight commander

[luc schimpf]

Le 24/02/2011 08:19, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :

bonjour,


suivant le mode de compilation de la personne qui a rélaisé le
paquet  le résultat est différent ...


j'ai vérifé le mode d'installation (GiYF) avec les dépendances
sur les OS suivants :

-a) OpenBSD
-b) FreeBSD


et voici les options pour FreeBSD :

   Options for mc 4.6.1_8

  [X] UTF8  Build with UTF8 support
  [X] SLANG Build with SLang library
  [X] ICONV Build with iconv recoding
  [X] NLS   Build with NLS support
  [X] EDIT  Build with internal editor
  [ ] X11   Build with X11 library
  [X] SUBSHELL  Build with subshell support
  [X] SAMBA Build with Samba support


 bref si utf8 et Slang ont des très gros soucis mc passe
 à la casserolle ...

intéressant, mais je ne suis pas sûr que ça puisse m'aider, le paquet et 
le même sur les trois bécanes la différence est donc ailleurs mais où...


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[HS?]midnight commander

[luc schimpf]

Bonjour,
j'ai un comportement bizarre de midnight commander sur une de mes 
machines, j'ai trois pc en sid à jour, MC fonctionne très bien sur deux 
d'entre eux mais sur le troisième, les touches F5 et F6 déconnent, à 
l'appui d'une de ces touches, MC m'affiche bien le dialogue 
correspondant mais aprés validation et quelques soient les options 
choisies, rien ne se passe.


J'ai fait des essais en root, en user, sous X avec xfce4-terminal ou 
avec Konsole, en console virtuelle (vt1) et j'ai même créé un nouvel 
utilisateur pour l'occasion, le comportement est le même dans tous les cas.


Pour info :
apt-cache policy mc
mc:
  Installé : 3:4.7.0.9-1
  Candidat : 3:4.7.0.9-1
 Table de version :
 *** 3:4.7.0.9-1 0
500 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main i386 Packages
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ stable/main i386 Packages
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing/main i386 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

c'est évidemment la même version sur les trois machines, d'ailleurs 
c'est la même version dans les trois saveurs de Debian.


J'ai aussi essayé de purger pour réinstaller, sans plus de résultat, 
quant à google, je ne trouve rien qui ressemble à ça...
Si vous avez une idée, sachant que me passer de MC n'est pas une option 
acceptable... ;-)

Merci
Luc



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Re: [HS?]midnight commander

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:12:58 +0100,
luc schimpf luc...@free.fr a écrit :

 Bonjour,
 j'ai un comportement bizarre de midnight commander sur une de mes 
 machines, j'ai trois pc en sid à jour, MC fonctionne très bien sur
 deux d'entre eux mais sur le troisième, les touches F5 et F6
 déconnent, à l'appui d'une de ces touches, MC m'affiche bien le
 dialogue correspondant mais aprés validation et quelques soient les
 options choisies, rien ne se passe.
 
 J'ai fait des essais en root, en user, sous X avec xfce4-terminal ou 
 avec Konsole, en console virtuelle (vt1) et j'ai même créé un nouvel 
 utilisateur pour l'occasion, le comportement est le même dans tous
 les cas.
 
 Pour info :
 apt-cache policy mc
 mc:
Installé : 3:4.7.0.9-1
Candidat : 3:4.7.0.9-1
   Table de version :
   *** 3:4.7.0.9-1 0
  500 ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main i386
 Packages 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ stable/main i386
 Packages 500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ testing/main i386
 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 
 c'est évidemment la même version sur les trois machines, d'ailleurs 
 c'est la même version dans les trois saveurs de Debian.
 
 J'ai aussi essayé de purger pour réinstaller, sans plus de résultat, 
 quant à google, je ne trouve rien qui ressemble à ça...
 Si vous avez une idée, sachant que me passer de MC n'est pas une
 option acceptable... ;-)
 Merci
 Luc

bonjour,

que donne la comparaison des fichiers entre les
diférents postes ?

tree $HOME/.mc
/home/luc/.mc

|-- cedit
|-- filepos
|-- history
|-- ini
|-- panels.ini
`-- Tree


j'ai également MC qui déraille mais sur OpenBSD ...

slt
bernard

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Re: [HS?]midnight commander

[luc schimpf]

Le 23/02/2011 12:34, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :


bonjour,

que donne la comparaison des fichiers entre les
diférents postes ?

tree $HOME/.mc


pas de différence :

home/anneliese/.mc
├── cedit
│   ├── cooledit.block
│   ├── cooledit.macros
│   └── edit.spell.rc
├── filepos
├── history
├── hotlist
├── hotlist.bak
├── ini
├── menu - /etc/mc/mc.menu
├── panels.ini
└── Tree

/home/luc/.mc
├── cedit
│   ├── cooledit.block
│   ├── cooledit.macros
│   └── edit.spell.rc
├── filepos
├── history
├── hotlist
├── hotlist.bak
├── ini
├── menu - /etc/mc/mc.menu
├── panels.ini
└── Tree


par acquis de conscience, j'ai copié le .mc de mon pc principal sur 
celui qui merde, mais, bien sûr, sans résultat.


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Re: [HS?]midnight commander

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:57:10 +0100,
luc schimpf luc...@free.fr a écrit :

 cooledit.block


bonjour,

est il possible de déplacer le .mc et de le renommer en .mc.OLD.

ensuite recréer un .mc vierge contenant le strict minimum ...

à la rigueur changer les couleurs et éprouver ...

slt
bernard

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Re: [HS?]midnight commander

[Julien]

Le mercredi 23 février 2011 à 12:12 +0100, luc schimpf a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 j'ai un comportement bizarre de midnight commander sur une de mes 
 machines, j'ai trois pc en sid à jour, MC fonctionne très bien sur deux 
 d'entre eux mais sur le troisième, les touches F5 et F6 déconnent, à 
 l'appui d'une de ces touches, MC m'affiche bien le dialogue 
 correspondant mais aprés validation et quelques soient les options 
 choisies, rien ne se passe.

Est-ce que les mv/cp correspondant s'execute correctement ? Autrement
dit, si tu essais de copier /etc/X11 vers /tmp (par exemple) avec mc,
essai de lancer directement la commande en console : cp -R /etc/X11 /tmp

Est-ce que ça fonctionne ?

Julien 

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Re: [HS?]midnight commander

[luc schimpf]

Le 23/02/2011 14:46, Julien a écrit :


Est-ce que les mv/cp correspondant s'execute correctement ? Autrement
dit, si tu essais de copier /etc/X11 vers /tmp (par exemple) avec mc,
essai de lancer directement la commande en console : cp -R /etc/X11 /tmp

Est-ce que ça fonctionne ?

Julien

la commande correspondante fonctionne sans problème même si il m'a 
fallut un certain temps pour me souvenir des commandes en questions, je 
fais tout avec MC depuis des lustres, du coup il faut un peu dépoussiérer...


Pour répondre à Bernard, la suppression du .mc n'a aucun effet, je 
rappel que même avec nouvel utilisateur créé pour l'occasion, le 
comportement est le même, il faudrait un moyen de voir ce qui ce passe 
dans les entrailles de MC... parce que, évidemment, je n'ai aucun 
message d'erreur, la boite de dialogue apparaît, je valide, la boite 
disparaît et ... rien...


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Re: [HS?]midnight commander

[Jean-Michel OLTRA]

Bonjour,


Le mercredi 23 février 2011, luc schimpf a écrit...


 Pour répondre à Bernard, la suppression du .mc n'a aucun effet, je
 rappel que même avec nouvel utilisateur créé pour l'occasion, le
 comportement est le même, il faudrait un moyen de voir ce qui ce
 passe dans les entrailles de MC... parce que, évidemment, je n'ai
 aucun message d'erreur, la boite de dialogue apparaît, je valide, la
 boite disparaît et ... rien...

Voir si quelque chose de nouveau est apparu dans /etc/mc ? Qui
n'existerait pas dans les configs perso, et donc serait appliqué par
défaut ?

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Re: [HS?]midnight commander

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:45:08 +0100,
luc schimpf luc...@free.fr a écrit :

 Le 23/02/2011 14:46, Julien a écrit :
 
  Est-ce que les mv/cp correspondant s'execute correctement ?
  Autrement dit, si tu essais de copier /etc/X11 vers /tmp (par
  exemple) avec mc, essai de lancer directement la commande en
  console : cp -R /etc/X11 /tmp
 
  Est-ce que ça fonctionne ?
 
  Julien
 
 la commande correspondante fonctionne sans problème même si il m'a 
 fallut un certain temps pour me souvenir des commandes en questions,
 je fais tout avec MC depuis des lustres, du coup il faut un peu
 dépoussiérer...
 
 Pour répondre à Bernard, la suppression du .mc n'a aucun effet, je 
 rappel que même avec nouvel utilisateur créé pour l'occasion, le 
 comportement est le même, il faudrait un moyen de voir ce qui ce
 passe dans les entrailles de MC... parce que, évidemment, je n'ai
 aucun message d'erreur, la boite de dialogue apparaît, je valide, la
 boite disparaît et ... rien...
 
bonjour,


suivant le mode de compilation de la personne qui a rélaisé le 
paquet  le résultat est différent ...


j'ai vérifé le mode d'installation (GiYF) avec les dépendances 
sur les OS suivants :

-a) OpenBSD
-b) FreeBSD


et voici les options pour FreeBSD :

  Options for mc 4.6.1_8

 [X] UTF8  Build with UTF8 support
 [X] SLANG Build with SLang library
 [X] ICONV Build with iconv recoding
 [X] NLS   Build with NLS support
 [X] EDIT  Build with internal editor
 [ ] X11   Build with X11 library
 [X] SUBSHELL  Build with subshell support
 [X] SAMBA Build with Samba support


 bref si utf8 et Slang ont des très gros soucis mc passe 
 à la casserolle ...

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Re: Quel xterm pour midnight commander ?

[François Cerbelle]

Vera Mickael a écrit :
Y a-t-il un xterm adapté à l'utilisation de mc ? Ou mon système est-il 
mal configuré ?


J'ai eu des problemes similaires et j'ai fait :
update-alternative --config x-terminal-emulator
et choisi uxterm

Simple efficace et adapté à mon utilisation (penses à utiliser les 
raccourcis Ctrl+les trois boutons de la souris dans le fond de la 
fenetre, comme pour tous les xterms)


Fanfan

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Quel xterm pour midnight commander ?

[Vera Mickael]

Bonjour,

Je suis sous lenny  xfce et je n'arrive pas à utiliser 
correctement mc avec les raccourcis clavier.


Dans un premier xterm (celui de base de xfce je crois), si 
j'utilise un raccourci clavier du type Alt-i, j'obtiens le 
caractère é dans la ligne de commande.


Si j'utilise un autre xterm (celui de gnome je crois), les 
raccourcis clavier sont interceptés par le xterm lui même 
qui les utilise pour des actions telles que créer un nouvel 
onglet.


Y a-t-il un xterm adapté à l'utilisation de mc ? Ou mon 
système est-il mal configuré ?


Merci d'avance,
Mickaël

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Re: Quel xterm pour midnight commander ?

[Denis Briand]

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:29:02AM +0200, Vera Mickael wrote:
 Bonjour,

 Je suis sous lenny  xfce et je n'arrive pas à utiliser correctement mc 
 avec les raccourcis clavier.

 Dans un premier xterm (celui de base de xfce je crois), si j'utilise un 
 raccourci clavier du type Alt-i, j'obtiens le caractère é dans la ligne 
 de commande.

 Si j'utilise un autre xterm (celui de gnome je crois), les raccourcis 
 clavier sont interceptés par le xterm lui même qui les utilise pour des 
 actions telles que créer un nouvel onglet.

 Y a-t-il un xterm adapté à l'utilisation de mc ? Ou mon système est-il 
 mal configuré ?

 Merci d'avance,
 Mickaël


Bonsoir Mickaël,
Pour ma part j'utilise xfce4-terminal avec succès.
Par contre pour ne pas être embêté avec la touche F10 par exemple et
bien d'autre, il faut que tu enlèves le menu de l'emulateur de terminal.
Pour ça il faut dans xfce4-terminal aller dans :
Editer  préférences  Aspect  Puis décocher : Afficher la barre de
menu dans les nouvelles fenêtres.

Cordialement

Denis Briand


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Re: Quel xterm pour midnight commander ?

[Francois Mescam]

Vera Mickael wrote:
 Bonjour,
Bonjour,
 
 
 Si j'utilise un autre xterm (celui de gnome je crois), les raccourcis
 clavier sont interceptés par le xterm lui même qui les utilise pour des
 actions telles que créer un nouvel onglet.
Sous gnome-terminal ils ne sont pas inteceptés quand la barre de menu
n'est pas ffichée, c'est ainsi que j'utilise mc.

Francois

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Re: Quel xterm pour midnight commander ?

[Edi Stojicevic]

* Francois Mescam gm...@mescam.org [2009-04-24 20:37:35 +0200] wrote :

 Vera Mickael wrote:
  Bonjour,
 Bonjour,
  
  
  Si j'utilise un autre xterm (celui de gnome je crois), les raccourcis
  clavier sont interceptés par le xterm lui même qui les utilise pour des
  actions telles que créer un nouvel onglet.
 Sous gnome-terminal ils ne sont pas inteceptés quand la barre de menu
 n'est pas ffichée, c'est ainsi que j'utilise mc.
 
 Francois

Bon j'utilise awsome avec urxvt et mc semble de fonctionner
correctement.


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Re: Midnight commander

[Bob Cox]

On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 20:09:15 -0500, Frank McCormick 
(fmccorm...@videotron.ca) wrote: 

 What's the best terminal for running Midnight Commander...it seems all
 the ones I try ( rxvt, aterm) can't handle the acsii drawing characters
 so the display is wierd.

Midnight Commander works perfectly here using konsole, the gnome
terminal and xterm.  This is with testing and kde.  mc also works fine
in a console session.

However, I have just installed aterm and can see your problem, so it is
reproducible.

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Re: Midnight commander

[Michael M. Moore]

Frank McCormick wrote:

What's the best terminal for running Midnight Commander...it seems all
the ones I try ( rxvt, aterm) can't handle the acsii drawing characters
so the display is wierd.


Midnight Commander works great with URxvt, the unicode version of rxvt. 
 The Debian package I have installed is 'rxvt-unicode.'  There are two 
other packages that may work as well, 'rxvt-unicode-light' and 
'rxvt-unicode-ml' (the latter for multilingual support).  This is with 
Lenny.


I saw the same garbled display when I was checking out aterm, but I 
never tried the non-unicode version of rxvt.


Michael M.


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Re: Midnight commander

[Frank]

On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 08:15 +, Bob Cox wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 20:09:15 -0500, Frank McCormick 
 (fmccorm...@videotron.ca) wrote: 
 
  What's the best terminal for running Midnight Commander...it seems all
  the ones I try ( rxvt, aterm) can't handle the acsii drawing characters
  so the display is wierd.
 
 Midnight Commander works perfectly here using konsole, the gnome
 terminal and xterm.  This is with testing and kde.  mc also works fine
 in a console session.
 
 However, I have just installed aterm and can see your problem, so it is
 reproducible.
 

  Gnome terminal and xterm works fine...I have since discovered urxvt
also works...I guess because it's also utf8 aware.

Thanks




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Re: Midnight commander

[jim barnes]

On Sunday 01 March 2009 06:09:15 pm Frank McCormick wrote:
 What's the best terminal for running Midnight Commander...it seems all
 the ones I try ( rxvt, aterm) can't handle the acsii drawing characters
 so the display is wierd.

Try starting with the -a option.
From man mc:
OPTIONS
   -a, --stickchars
  Disable usage of graphic characters for line drawing.

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Re: Midnight commander

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 08:09:15PM -0500, Frank McCormick wrote:
 What's the best terminal for running Midnight Commander...it seems all
 the ones I try ( rxvt, aterm) can't handle the acsii drawing characters
 so the display is wierd.
 

I use mc -sd in mrxvt with my non-locales box (LANG=C).

-s tells mc not to waste time with expensive line-drawing commands.  It
looks the same to me.

Here's my .mrxvtrc


Mrxvt.xft:  true
Mrxvt.xftAntialias: true
Mrxvt.xftAutoHint:  true
#Mrxvt.xftFont: bitstream vera sans mono
Mrxvt.xftFont:  dejavu sans mono
Mrxvt.xftWeight:medium
Mrxvt.xftWidth: normal
Mrxvt.xftSize:  12
Mrxvt.background:   #F6E7CF
Mrxvt.showMenu: true


Perhaps it depends on what font you're using, if it contains the
necessary chars.

Doug.


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Midnight commander

[Frank McCormick]

What's the best terminal for running Midnight Commander...it seems all
the ones I try ( rxvt, aterm) can't handle the acsii drawing characters
so the display is wierd.




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Re: Midnight commander

[Daryl Styrk]

Frank McCormick wrote:

What's the best terminal for running Midnight Commander...it seems all
the ones I try ( rxvt, aterm) can't handle the acsii drawing characters
so the display is wierd.






I've never used Midnight Commander, but here is my notes on how I got 
the BBS's to display much better..




cd /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc
wget http://home.earthlink.net/~us5zahns/enl/vga11x19.pcf
mkfontdir
xset fp rehash

## need rxvt ##

rxvt -bg black -fg white -fn vga11x19



##from http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x606.html ##


Maybe that will get you somewhere..
Hope this helps.

Daryl


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Re: Midnight commander

[Celejar]

On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 20:43:12 -0500
Daryl Styrk darylst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Frank McCormick wrote:
  What's the best terminal for running Midnight Commander...it seems all
  the ones I try ( rxvt, aterm) can't handle the acsii drawing characters
  so the display is wierd.
  
  
  
  
 
 I've never used Midnight Commander, but here is my notes on how I got 
 the BBS's to display much better..

It works out of the box on Xfce Terminal.  I just tried it on mrxvt,
and I saw the OP's problem.

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Re: mp3 file manager similar to midnight commander

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 08:37:42AM +0100, dulev wrote:
  I am in search of a file manager similar to midnight commander, but
  for use with mp3 files.  
 
 sudo apt-cache show moc

Only if you do some tricks with the ExecCommand configs.

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mp3 file manager similar to midnight commander

[Russell L. Harris]

I am in search of a file manager similar to midnight commander, but
for use with mp3 files.  

The manager needs to be able to transfer files from one directory to
another, and to display the ID3 tags (even as midnight commander
displays the file content).

I have a directory which has many mp3 files of lectures on various
subjects, and only a small number of the lectures are of interest to
me.  The ID3 tag of each file contains the subject of the lecture.

But I cannot read the ID3 tag with midnight commander (does midnight
commander have this capability), and I am not aware of a mp3 tag
utility which allows me to move, copy, and delete files.

The Debian package called juice is a playlist editor, but cannot
copy, move, or delete files.  Also, juice still is preliminary
(release 0.03p), is rather crude, and appears to be no longer in
development.

RLH


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Re: mp3 file manager similar to midnight commander

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 04:24:58PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
 I am in search of a file manager similar to midnight commander, but
 for use with mp3 files.  
 
 The manager needs to be able to transfer files from one directory to
 another, and to display the ID3 tags (even as midnight commander
 displays the file content).
 
 I have a directory which has many mp3 files of lectures on various
 subjects, and only a small number of the lectures are of interest to
 me.  The ID3 tag of each file contains the subject of the lecture.
 
 But I cannot read the ID3 tag with midnight commander (does midnight
 commander have this capability), and I am not aware of a mp3 tag
 utility which allows me to move, copy, and delete files.

I've never used MP3 files so I can't test it, but what about Konqueror?
It seems to be able to do everything else.

Doug.


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Re: mp3 file manager similar to midnight commander

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On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:19:33 -0500
Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 04:24:58PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
  I am in search of a file manager similar to midnight commander, but
  for use with mp3 files.  
  
  The manager needs to be able to transfer files from one directory to
  another, and to display the ID3 tags (even as midnight commander
  displays the file content).
  
 I've never used MP3 files so I can't test it, but what about
 Konqueror? It seems to be able to do everything else.
 
 Doug.

That would be my suggestion. If you are using Konqueror as a file
browser, the View - Info List option will show you ID3 tags and
Window - Split View Left/Right will give you a two column layout
similar to MC. The only draw back is that it's not curses based.

Is there anything Konqueror can't do?
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Re: mp3 file manager similar to midnight commander

[John Hasler]

Write a script using something like cutmp3 to extract the ids and put them
(and the associated file name) in a file.  Edit the file with any text
editor to remove the uninteresting entries.  Run another script to move the
remaining files.
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Re: mp3 file manager similar to midnight commander

[Ralph Katz]

On 01/17/2008 05:24 PM, Russell L. Harris wrote:
 I am in search of a file manager similar to midnight commander, but
 for use with mp3 files.  
 
 The manager needs to be able to transfer files from one directory to
 another, and to display the ID3 tags (even as midnight commander
 displays the file content).
 
 I have a directory which has many mp3 files of lectures on various
 subjects, and only a small number of the lectures are of interest to
 me.  The ID3 tag of each file contains the subject of the lecture.
 
 But I cannot read the ID3 tag with midnight commander (does midnight
 commander have this capability), and I am not aware of a mp3 tag
 utility which allows me to move, copy, and delete files.
 
 The Debian package called juice is a playlist editor, but cannot
 copy, move, or delete files.  Also, juice still is preliminary
 (release 0.03p), is rather crude, and appears to be no longer in
 development.
 
 RLH

In etch, MC shows me the ID3 tags for mp3 files in its default
configuration.  I haven't touched this.

From ~/.mc/bindings:

regex/\.(mp3|MP3|Mp3)$

Open=run-mailcap audio/mpeg:%f

#Open=if [ $DISPLAY =  ]; then mpg123 %f; else (xmms %f );
fi
View=%view{ascii} mpg123 -vtn1 %f 21 | sed -n
'/^Title/,/^Comment/p;/^
MPEG/,/^Audio/p'


So I can see the tags with F3 and play them with Enter.

This is different for you?

Ralph


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Re: mp3 file manager similar to midnight commander

[Ralph Katz]

On 01/17/2008 07:46 PM, Ralph Katz wrote:
 View=%view{ascii} mpg123 -vtn1 %f 21 | sed -n
 '/^Title/,/^Comment/p;/^
 MPEG/,/^Audio/p'
 
 
 So I can see the tags with F3 and play them with Enter.

This is with the free mpg321 package installed, btw.

Ralph


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Re: mp3 file manager similar to midnight commander

[Александър Л . Димитров]

Quoth Russell L. Harris:
 I am in search of a file manager similar to midnight commander, but
 for use with mp3 files.  

I don't know what Midnight Commander is, but for managing many mp3's (and audio
files in general) Easytag (it's in the repos) has proven to be an invaluable
resource. Picard is better for stuff that's in Musicbrainz already (which, I
assume, is not the case here), but otherwise, just use easytag. I think it's not
that much aimed at general file managing, but more at managing a music library,
but it might suit your needs.

Otherwise Konqueror might help you as well.

Aleks


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Re: mp3 file manager similar to midnight commander

[dulev]

 I am in search of a file manager similar to midnight commander, but
 for use with mp3 files.  

sudo apt-cache show moc


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Re: Midnight Commander + file(1) sorunu

[Mert Dirik]

Recai Oktaş yazmış:
 Merhaba,
 
 Bir kaç zamandır dikkatimi çeken bir sorunla bugün ilgilenme fırsatı
 buldum.  Benzer sorundan muzdarip olanlara da yararlı olabilir düşüncesiyle
 buraya yazayım dedim.
 
 Midnight Commander, nam-ı diğer mc sık kullandığım bir programdır.  Bu
 sık kullandığım programda en sık yaptığım işlem de F3 (veya Enter) tuşu ile
 dosyalara bakmak veya F4 ile düzenlemek.  Gel gelelim makinede tam tarihini
 hatırlayamadığım bir güncellemeden beri mc'deki bu göz atma ve düzenleme
 işlemlerinde, özellikle büyük dosyalarda, olağanüstü bir yavaşlık oluyordu.
 Örnek vermem gerekirse, 170K civarı bir dosyaya (1.4GHz'lik Pentium M
 işlemcili makinede) F3 ile bakınma işlemi yaklaşık 9 sn sürüyordu.
 
 strace(1) ile programın ne iş çevirdiğini inceledim ve bu bakınma/düzenleme
 işlemlerinde mc'nin dosya tipini tayin etmek için file(1) komutunu fork
 ettiğini farkettim.  Yani (en azından bu makinede) sorun file(1) komutunda:
 
 $ du -h iri.tex
 172Kiri.tex
 
 $ file --version
 file-4.21
 magic file from /etc/magic:/usr/share/file/magic
 
 $ time file iri.tex
 iri.tex: LaTeX 2e document text
 
 real0m9.232s
 user0m8.865s
 sys 0m0.016s
 
 Görüldüğü gibi file(1) kararını ~9 s'de veriyor!  Süreç zamanı ağırlıklı
 olarak user tarafında olduğundan bunun çekirdek ile alakalı olmadığını
 düşünebiliriz.  Sorun Türkçe'ye özel mi?
 
 $ (export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8; time file iri.tex)
 iri.tex: LaTeX 2e document text
 
 real0m3.190s
 user0m3.092s
 sys 0m0.008s
 
 Biraz öyle görünüyor.  Devam edelim...
 
 $ (export LC_ALL=C; time file iri.tex)
 iri.tex: LaTeX 2e document text
 
 real0m0.076s
 user0m0.060s
 sys 0m0.000s
 
 Sonuç:
 
 $ echo 9.232/0.076 | bc
 121
 
 121 katlık bir fark!  Öyle anlaşılıyor ki file(1)'ın bu yeni sürümlerinde
 öncelikle UTF8 ile alakalı ve Türkçe işin içine girdiğinde katmerleşen bir
 sorun var.  Burada verdiğim rakamları (mümkünse farklı dağıtımlarda) siz de
 doğrularsanız memnun olurum, hata raporu geçmeden önce emin olalım.  Geçici
 bir çözüm olarak aşağıdaki adımları uyguladım:
 
 $ cp /usr/bin/file /usr/bin/file.exec
 $ cat /usr/bin/file
 #!/bin/sh
 LC_ALL=C exec /usr/bin/file.exec $@
 (bu noktada Ctrl-D tuşluyoruz)
 
 Tabii bu çözümün yan etkileri olacaktır mutlaka.  Yine de önceden 9 s'de
 açılan bir dosyayı saniye altında açmak için buna değer...
 
etch'deki sürüm 4.17'de sorun yok gibi görünüyor.

@debian:~$ file --version
file-4.17
magic file from /etc/magic:/usr/share/file/magic
@debian:~$ ls -lh mbox
-rw--- 1 mert mert 209K Dec 22 20:16 mbox
@debian:~$ time file mbox
mbox: UTF-8 Unicode mail text

real0m0.066s
user0m0.048s
sys 0m0.008s
@debian:~$ (export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8; time file mbox)
mbox: UTF-8 Unicode mail text

real0m0.062s
user0m0.040s
sys 0m0.016s
@debian:~$ (export LC_ALL=C; time file mbox)
mbox: UTF-8 Unicode mail text

real0m0.068s
user0m0.044s
sys 0m0.008s
@debian:~$


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Midnight Commander + file(1) sorunu

[Recai Oktaş]

Merhaba,

Bir kaç zamandır dikkatimi çeken bir sorunla bugün ilgilenme fırsatı
buldum.  Benzer sorundan muzdarip olanlara da yararlı olabilir düşüncesiyle
buraya yazayım dedim.

Midnight Commander, nam-ı diğer mc sık kullandığım bir programdır.  Bu
sık kullandığım programda en sık yaptığım işlem de F3 (veya Enter) tuşu ile
dosyalara bakmak veya F4 ile düzenlemek.  Gel gelelim makinede tam tarihini
hatırlayamadığım bir güncellemeden beri mc'deki bu göz atma ve düzenleme
işlemlerinde, özellikle büyük dosyalarda, olağanüstü bir yavaşlık oluyordu.
Örnek vermem gerekirse, 170K civarı bir dosyaya (1.4GHz'lik Pentium M
işlemcili makinede) F3 ile bakınma işlemi yaklaşık 9 sn sürüyordu.

strace(1) ile programın ne iş çevirdiğini inceledim ve bu bakınma/düzenleme
işlemlerinde mc'nin dosya tipini tayin etmek için file(1) komutunu fork
ettiğini farkettim.  Yani (en azından bu makinede) sorun file(1) komutunda:

$ du -h iri.tex
172Kiri.tex

$ file --version
file-4.21
magic file from /etc/magic:/usr/share/file/magic

$ time file iri.tex
iri.tex: LaTeX 2e document text

real0m9.232s
user0m8.865s
sys 0m0.016s

Görüldüğü gibi file(1) kararını ~9 s'de veriyor!  Süreç zamanı ağırlıklı
olarak user tarafında olduğundan bunun çekirdek ile alakalı olmadığını
düşünebiliriz.  Sorun Türkçe'ye özel mi?

$ (export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8; time file iri.tex)
iri.tex: LaTeX 2e document text

real0m3.190s
user0m3.092s
sys 0m0.008s

Biraz öyle görünüyor.  Devam edelim...

$ (export LC_ALL=C; time file iri.tex)
iri.tex: LaTeX 2e document text

real0m0.076s
user0m0.060s
sys 0m0.000s

Sonuç:

$ echo 9.232/0.076 | bc
121

121 katlık bir fark!  Öyle anlaşılıyor ki file(1)'ın bu yeni sürümlerinde
öncelikle UTF8 ile alakalı ve Türkçe işin içine girdiğinde katmerleşen bir
sorun var.  Burada verdiğim rakamları (mümkünse farklı dağıtımlarda) siz de
doğrularsanız memnun olurum, hata raporu geçmeden önce emin olalım.  Geçici
bir çözüm olarak aşağıdaki adımları uyguladım:

$ cp /usr/bin/file /usr/bin/file.exec
$ cat /usr/bin/file
#!/bin/sh
LC_ALL=C exec /usr/bin/file.exec $@
(bu noktada Ctrl-D tuşluyoruz)

Tabii bu çözümün yan etkileri olacaktır mutlaka.  Yine de önceden 9 s'de
açılan bir dosyayı saniye altında açmak için buna değer...

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Re: Midnight Commander + file sorunu

[Cafer Şimşek]

Recai Oktaş [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Merhaba,

 Bir kaç zamandır dikkatimi çeken bir sorunla bugün ilgilenme fırsatı
 buldum.  Benzer sorundan muzdarip olanlara da yararlı olabilir düşüncesiyle
 buraya yazayım dedim.

 Midnight Commander, nam-ı diğer mc sık kullandığım bir programdır.  Bu
 sık kullandığım programda en sık yaptığım işlem de F3 (veya Enter) tuşu ile
 dosyalara bakmak veya F4 ile düzenlemek.  Gel gelelim makinede tam tarihini
 hatırlayamadığım bir güncellemeden beri mc'deki bu göz atma ve düzenleme
 işlemlerinde, özellikle büyük dosyalarda, olağanüstü bir yavaşlık oluyordu.
 Örnek vermem gerekirse, 170K civarı bir dosyaya (1.4GHz'lik Pentium M
 işlemcili makinede) F3 ile bakınma işlemi yaklaşık 9 sn sürüyordu.

 strace(1) ile programın ne iş çevirdiğini inceledim ve bu bakınma/düzenleme
 işlemlerinde mc'nin dosya tipini tayin etmek için file(1) komutunu fork
 ettiğini farkettim.  Yani (en azından bu makinede) sorun file(1) komutunda:

 $ du -h iri.tex
 172Kiri.tex

 $ file --version
 file-4.21
 magic file from /etc/magic:/usr/share/file/magic

 $ time file iri.tex
 iri.tex: LaTeX 2e document text

 real0m9.232s
 user0m8.865s
 sys 0m0.016s

 Görüldüğü gibi file(1) kararını ~9 s'de veriyor!  Süreç zamanı ağırlıklı
 olarak user tarafında olduğundan bunun çekirdek ile alakalı olmadığını
 düşünebiliriz.  Sorun Türkçe'ye özel mi?

Merhaba,

Sanırım doğru düşünüyorsunuz. Türkçe'ye özel bir durum. Bu Ubuntu 7.10
üzerindeki testler.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Work$ (LANG=C; time file maillogs.sql.gz)
maillogs.sql.gz: gzip compressed data, was maillogs.sql, from Unix, last 
modified: Thu Nov 22 15:28:55 2007

real0m0.027s
user0m0.020s
sys 0m0.004s
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Work$ time file maillogs.sql.gz 
maillogs.sql.gz: gzip compressed data, was maillogs.sql, from Unix, last 
modified: Thu Nov 22 15:28:55 2007

real0m0.259s
user0m0.240s
sys 0m0.000s
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Work$ file --version
file-4.21
magic file from /etc/magic:/usr/share/file/magic
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Work$ 


Sürüm 4.12 ile de test ettim (VMWare üzerinde çalışan FreeBSD 6.2 ile)
onda böyle bir sorunla karşılaşmadım. FreeBSD üzerine sürüm 4.21'i
yükleyip denedim ve sonuç: Çok daha büyük bir fark.

Yani bu sorun 4.12 sürümünde yok, onu garantilemiş olduk.

[...]

Sevgiler

-Cafer

Re: Midnight Commander + file sorunu

[Recai Oktaş]

Merhaba,

* Cafer Şimşek [2008-01-10 16:48:57+0200]
 Sanırım doğru düşünüyorsunuz. Türkçe'ye özel bir durum. Bu Ubuntu 7.10
 üzerindeki testler.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Work$ (LANG=C; time file maillogs.sql.gz)
 maillogs.sql.gz: gzip compressed data, was maillogs.sql, from Unix, last 
 modified: Thu Nov 22 15:28:55 2007
 
 real0m0.027s
 user0m0.020s
 sys 0m0.004s
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Work$ time file maillogs.sql.gz 
 maillogs.sql.gz: gzip compressed data, was maillogs.sql, from Unix, last 
 modified: Thu Nov 22 15:28:55 2007
 
 real0m0.259s
 user0m0.240s
 sys 0m0.000s
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Work$ file --version
 file-4.21
 magic file from /etc/magic:/usr/share/file/magic
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Work$ 

Bu denemeler için çok teşekkürler...

 Sürüm 4.12 ile de test ettim (VMWare üzerinde çalışan FreeBSD 6.2 ile)
 onda böyle bir sorunla karşılaşmadım. FreeBSD üzerine sürüm 4.21'i
 yükleyip denedim ve sonuç: Çok daha büyük bir fark.
 
 Yani bu sorun 4.12 sürümünde yok, onu garantilemiş olduk.

Hız farklarının (çok baskın olmayan) bir nedeni de taranan magic
dosyasının boyutu.  Debian'da bu dosyanın diğer dağıtım ve/veya işletim
sistemlerine göre daha büyük olduğunu tahmin ediyorum.

$ du -h /usr/share/file/magic.mgc
1.1M/usr/share/file/magic.mgc

Diğer paketlerin kendisine bağımlı olmasından dolayı file ve (aynı
kaynaktan üretilen) libmagic1 önemli paketler.

$ apt-cache rdepends | wc -l
71

Bağımlı paketlerin arasında debhelper, libtool, intltool, defoma,
exim4-base gibi önemli paketler de var...

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Re: Midnight Commander + file sorunu

[Erçin EKER]

On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 16:48 +0200, Cafer Şimşek wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Work$ (LANG=C; time file maillogs.sql.gz)
 maillogs.sql.gz: gzip compressed data, was maillogs.sql, from Unix,
 last modified: Thu Nov 22 15:28:55 2007
 
 real0m0.027s
 user0m0.020s
 sys 0m0.004s
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Work$ time file maillogs.sql.gz 
 maillogs.sql.gz: gzip compressed data, was maillogs.sql, from Unix,
 last modified: Thu Nov 22 15:28:55 2007
 
 real0m0.259s
 user0m0.240s
 sys 0m0.000s

Benim sistemimde de benzer şekilde türkçe utf-8 de file daha yavaş
çalışıyor:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ time file nautilus-debug-log.txt 
nautilus-debug-log.txt: ASCII English text

real0m2.366s
user0m2.364s
sys 0m0.016s
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ export LANG=C
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ export LC_ALL=C
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ time file nautilus-debug-log.txt 
nautilus-debug-log.txt: ASCII English text

real0m0.060s
user0m0.056s
sys 0m0.000s



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Midnight Commander / Etch

[Debian]

Hi everybody,
I just reinstalled a box from netinst
I am experiencing a segmentation fault with MC when using Copy or Move
MC version: 4.6.1
Etch kernel: 2.6.18-4-486
can someone help me (I already search and found some related issue but 
all are supposed to be already solved on Debian)

Thanks a lot
Raymond


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Re: Midnight Commander / Etch

[Debian]

Hi
even after upgrading I had the same error, I discovered that something 
was wrong in /home/user/.mc , in fact I have copied them from a previous 
backup, I have deleted everything and MC works again

Thanks for your help
Raymond

Pál Csányi a écrit :

2007/9/15, Debian [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

Hi everybody,
I just reinstalled a box from netinst
I am experiencing a segmentation fault with MC when using Copy or Move
MC version: 4.6.1
Etch kernel: 2.6.18-4-486



I use MC version: 1:4.6.1-6 and the debian linux-image-2.6.18-5-686.
I can use MC without any errors.

Maybe you should to do: aptitude update
and then aptitude upgrade?

  



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Re: Re: Public key SSH with Midnight Commander

[Jon Dowland]

 sshfs ip.address.of.host: mountpoint -o
 IdentityFile=~/.ssh/id_remote
 
 The reference from the sshfs help output and manpage is a
 bit obscure
 refering the reader to the ssh_config man page for ssh
 option where
 IdentityFile is described.

Better method: specify the identify file per host in
~/.ssh/config. That will work with sshfs and anything else
using openssh as a backend. E.g.

Host foo
IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa_foo

However, if your authentication agent has a key loaded, the
ssh connection should try to use it for a connection, so
you could just make sure you've ssh-added all the identity
files prior to using sshfs/mc etc.


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Re: Public key SSH with Midnight Commander

[Atis]

On 8/17/07, Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have my SSH set up to use only public key authentication between my
 laptop and my remote host--no password fallback, no PAM.  So, I
 initiate a session using:

 $ ssh -i .ssh/id_remote remote.host.ip.address

 Then I am prompted for the password of the .ssh/id_remote file which
 resides on the laptop.

 This works well (X11 Forwarding even!), but when I've tried Midnight
 Commander or Konqueror using the fish protocol, I get errors.  In
 experimenting, it appears to me that fish only uses password
 authentication.  How can I make this work with public key only as I'm
 using?

 I want to keep my SSH access as secure as possible by using only public
 key authentication.

Use sshfs

Regards,
Atis

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Public key SSH with Midnight Commander

[Nate Bargmann]

I have my SSH set up to use only public key authentication between my
laptop and my remote host--no password fallback, no PAM.  So, I
initiate a session using:

$ ssh -i .ssh/id_remote remote.host.ip.address

Then I am prompted for the password of the .ssh/id_remote file which
resides on the laptop.

This works well (X11 Forwarding even!), but when I've tried Midnight
Commander or Konqueror using the fish protocol, I get errors.  In
experimenting, it appears to me that fish only uses password
authentication.  How can I make this work with public key only as I'm
using?

I want to keep my SSH access as secure as possible by using only public
key authentication.

- Nate 

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Re: Public key SSH with Midnight Commander

[Csányi Pál]

On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 01:10:26PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
 * Atis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Aug 17 10:55 -0500]:
  On 8/17/07, Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have my SSH set up to use only public key authentication between my
   laptop and my remote host--no password fallback, no PAM.  So, I
   initiate a session using:
  
   $ ssh -i .ssh/id_remote remote.host.ip.address
  
   Then I am prompted for the password of the .ssh/id_remote file which
   resides on the laptop.
  
   This works well (X11 Forwarding even!), but when I've tried Midnight
   Commander or Konqueror using the fish protocol, I get errors.  In
   experimenting, it appears to me that fish only uses password
   authentication.  How can I make this work with public key only as I'm
   using?
  
   I want to keep my SSH access as secure as possible by using only public
   key authentication.

I use ssh access to the remote debian system with RSA public key.

I can use Midnight Commander to access remote directories with fish; then I 
must to enter the remote password for the remote user and the / directory is 
open for me.

In MC I open a Shell connection, 
give the remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] /#sh:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
enter the password for that remote user, and open the remote / directory.

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Re: Public key SSH with Midnight Commander

[Nate Bargmann]

* Atis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Aug 17 10:55 -0500]:
 On 8/17/07, Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have my SSH set up to use only public key authentication between my
  laptop and my remote host--no password fallback, no PAM.  So, I
  initiate a session using:
 
  $ ssh -i .ssh/id_remote remote.host.ip.address
 
  Then I am prompted for the password of the .ssh/id_remote file which
  resides on the laptop.
 
  This works well (X11 Forwarding even!), but when I've tried Midnight
  Commander or Konqueror using the fish protocol, I get errors.  In
  experimenting, it appears to me that fish only uses password
  authentication.  How can I make this work with public key only as I'm
  using?
 
  I want to keep my SSH access as secure as possible by using only public
  key authentication.
 
 Use sshfs

That still doesn't work.  I get:

read: Connection reset by peer

It doesn't seem to be able to let me specify a path to the
~/.ssh/id_remote file and then prompt for a password like the -i option
of ssh.  It does work okay with a host that uses the default id_r|dsa
filename, but I use a different key for different hosts and must
specify the correct key to ssh.  Does sshfs support this?

Ideas?

- Nate 

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Re: Public key SSH with Midnight Commander

[Nate Bargmann]

* Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Aug 17 13:11 -0500]:
 * Atis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Aug 17 10:55 -0500]:
  On 8/17/07, Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have my SSH set up to use only public key authentication between my
   laptop and my remote host--no password fallback, no PAM.  So, I
   initiate a session using:
  
   $ ssh -i .ssh/id_remote remote.host.ip.address
  
   Then I am prompted for the password of the .ssh/id_remote file which
   resides on the laptop.
  
   This works well (X11 Forwarding even!), but when I've tried Midnight
   Commander or Konqueror using the fish protocol, I get errors.  In
   experimenting, it appears to me that fish only uses password
   authentication.  How can I make this work with public key only as I'm
   using?
  
   I want to keep my SSH access as secure as possible by using only public
   key authentication.
  
  Use sshfs
 
 That still doesn't work.  I get:
 
 read: Connection reset by peer
 
 It doesn't seem to be able to let me specify a path to the
 ~/.ssh/id_remote file and then prompt for a password like the -i option
 of ssh.  It does work okay with a host that uses the default id_r|dsa
 filename, but I use a different key for different hosts and must
 specify the correct key to ssh.  Does sshfs support this?
 
 Ideas?

Well, as is usual, I solved it via Google.  Here is what I needed to do:

sshfs ip.address.of.host: mountpoint -o IdentityFile=~/.ssh/id_remote

The reference from the sshfs help output and manpage is a bit obscure
refering the reader to the ssh_config man page for ssh option where
IdentityFile is described.

Works like a hose!

- Nate 

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Re: Public key SSH with Midnight Commander

[Nate Bargmann]

* Csányi Pál [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Aug 17 13:31 -0500]:
 On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 01:10:26PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
  * Atis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007 Aug 17 10:55 -0500]:
   On 8/17/07, Nate Bargmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have my SSH set up to use only public key authentication between my
laptop and my remote host--no password fallback, no PAM.  So, I
initiate a session using:
   
$ ssh -i .ssh/id_remote remote.host.ip.address
   
Then I am prompted for the password of the .ssh/id_remote file which
resides on the laptop.
   
This works well (X11 Forwarding even!), but when I've tried Midnight
Commander or Konqueror using the fish protocol, I get errors.  In
experimenting, it appears to me that fish only uses password
authentication.  How can I make this work with public key only as I'm
using?
   
I want to keep my SSH access as secure as possible by using only public
key authentication.
 
 I use ssh access to the remote debian system with RSA public key.
 
 I can use Midnight Commander to access remote directories with fish; then I 
 must to enter the remote password for the remote user and the / directory is 
 open for me.
 
 In MC I open a Shell connection, 
 give the remote [EMAIL PROTECTED] /#sh:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 enter the password for that remote user, and open the remote / directory.

Are you using public key authentication and have password login
disabled as well?  That's my setup.

- Nate 

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Re: configuring midnight commander for use via ssh

[Douglas Allan Tutty]

On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 12:48:18AM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
 
 The Gnome desktop is installed on both machines.  Also, midnight
 commander (the original mc, not Gnome commander) is installed on both
 machines, and works perfectly when accessed from the local keyboard.
 
 After starting Edith (but not logging in locally), I have been logging
 into Edith via SSH from Kate.  But when I execute mc over the SSH
 link, the two-panel mc display is corrupted.  Instead of horizontal
 and vertical rules, I see strange characters in groups of three.

Sounds like the LANG is different.  To confirm this, after you ssh but
before you run mc, enter:

LANG=C

if that works, then you know the problem.

Doug.


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Re: configuring midnight commander for use via ssh

[dulev]

 After starting Edith (but not logging in locally), I have been logging
 into Edith via SSH from Kate.  But when I execute mc over the SSH
 link, the two-panel mc display is corrupted.  Instead of horizontal
 and vertical rules, I see strange characters in groups of three.
 
 What is the proper way to configure midnight commander for running
 over SSH?

Try mc -a.

Regards


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Re: configuring midnight commander for use via ssh

[Russell L. Harris]

* dulev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070515 01:21]:
  After starting Edith (but not logging in locally), I have been logging
  into Edith via SSH from Kate.  But when I execute mc over the SSH
  link, the two-panel mc display is corrupted.  Instead of horizontal
  and vertical rules, I see strange characters in groups of three.
  
  What is the proper way to configure midnight commander for running
  over SSH?
 
 Try mc -a.


There is no improvement.

When I try to run gnome-commander, I receive the error message:

(gnome-commander:3916): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:


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Re: configuring midnight commander for use via ssh

[dulev]

   After starting Edith (but not logging in locally), I have been
   logging into Edith via SSH from Kate.  But when I execute mc over
   the SSH link, the two-panel mc display is corrupted.  Instead of
   horizontal and vertical rules, I see strange characters in groups of
   three.
   
   What is the proper way to configure midnight commander for running
   over SSH?
  
  Try mc -a.
 
 There is no improvement.
 
 When I try to run gnome-commander, I receive the error message:
 
 (gnome-commander:3916): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:

Sory, I dont know.
For me working fine (KDE/Konsole/mc -a).


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Re: configuring midnight commander for use via ssh -- problem solved

[Russell L. Harris]

* dulev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070515 01:56]:
After starting Edith (but not logging in locally), I have been
logging into Edith via SSH from Kate.  But when I execute mc over
the SSH link, the two-panel mc display is corrupted.  Instead of
horizontal and vertical rules, I see strange characters in groups of
three.

What is the proper way to configure midnight commander for running
over SSH?
 
 Sorry, I don't know.
 For me working fine (KDE/Konsole/mc -a).


I found a solution:

(1) Start mc on Kate:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mc

(2) From the LEFT menu, select SHELL LINK and for the machine name
enter edith.

(3) From the RIGHT menu, select SHELL LINK and for the machine name
enter edith.

Now the midnight commander display is being managed by Kate, while
both panes are displaying Edith.  So it turns out that two SSH links
are being used.  This arrangement allows me to move files from one
directory to another on the remote machine (Edith).

Note that, in order to transfer files between Edith and Kate, it is
necessary only to select SHELL LINK from one of the menus (LEFT or
RIGHT).


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Re: configuring midnight commander for use via ssh -- problem solved

[Amy Templeton]

Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * dulev [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070515 01:56]:
 After starting Edith (but not logging in locally), I have been
 logging into Edith via SSH from Kate.  But when I execute mc over
 the SSH link, the two-panel mc display is corrupted.  Instead of
 horizontal and vertical rules, I see strange characters in groups of
 three.
 
 What is the proper way to configure midnight commander for running
 over SSH?
  
  Sorry, I don't know.
  For me working fine (KDE/Konsole/mc -a).


 I found a solution:

 (1) Start mc on Kate:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mc

 (2) From the LEFT menu, select SHELL LINK and for the machine name
 enter edith.

 (3) From the RIGHT menu, select SHELL LINK and for the machine name
 enter edith.

 Now the midnight commander display is being managed by Kate, while
 both panes are displaying Edith.  So it turns out that two SSH links
 are being used.  This arrangement allows me to move files from one
 directory to another on the remote machine (Edith).

Alternately, have you considered using GNU Screen? That way, if you
start up mc in it and later SSH in, all you need to do is screen -r
and you've got it...

Amy

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Re: configuring midnight commander for use via ssh -- problem solved

[Russell L. Harris]

* Amy Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070515 11:07]:
 Alternately, have you considered using GNU Screen? That way, if you
 start up mc in it and later SSH in, all you need to do is screen -r
 and you've got it...

Thanks for the introduction to screen, Amy.  I installed screen and
printed the man pages (all 47 of them).  Also, I found and printed a
4-page introductory article.

Inasmuch as I work almost entirely in the X environment, I wonder
whether screen is the best solution for my needs.  I think something
like a remote X-session might be a better fit, but I haven't figured
out how to implement that, and I haven't yet found a good HOWTO on the
subject.


  


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Re: configuring midnight commander for use via ssh -- problem solved

[Amy Templeton]

Russell L. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * Amy Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070515 11:07]:
  Alternately, have you considered using GNU Screen? That way, if you
  start up mc in it and later SSH in, all you need to do is screen -r
  and you've got it...

 Thanks for the introduction to screen, Amy. I installed screen
 and printed the man pages (all 47 of them). Also, I found and
 printed a 4-page introductory article.

Yikes! Did you find the info document? That could add quite a bit
more to your page count...so beware!

 Inasmuch as I work almost entirely in the X environment, I wonder
 whether screen is the best solution for my needs. I think
 something like a remote X-session might be a better fit, but I
 haven't figured out how to implement that, and I haven't yet
 found a good HOWTO on the subject.

Unfortunately, I can't be much help there (sorry), but just
googling remote x session (minus the quotes) did bring up some
potentially promising items.

Good luck!

Amy

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configuring midnight commander for use via ssh

[Russell L. Harris]

I have Debian running on two machines, Kate and Edith, in my LAN.
(Who says you can't have your Kate, and Edith, too?) 

The Gnome desktop is installed on both machines.  Also, midnight
commander (the original mc, not Gnome commander) is installed on both
machines, and works perfectly when accessed from the local keyboard.

After starting Edith (but not logging in locally), I have been logging
into Edith via SSH from Kate.  But when I execute mc over the SSH
link, the two-panel mc display is corrupted.  Instead of horizontal
and vertical rules, I see strange characters in groups of three.

What is the proper way to configure midnight commander for running
over SSH?

Would it be better to run Gnome commander instead of midnight
commander?


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