Re: New Install Fails at Step 14

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
That's quite all right, it's not something that's really important
unless the non-full installs don't include screenreader support
durinig the actual install, which they probably don't. You don't even
have to ask your friend. If you happen to have a copy of the distro
handy, boot it, and tell me if there's an option to start the
installation with a screenreader, which is documented in the full
install as the "S" option on the install menu.


On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:49:35 +, you wrote:

>On Wednesday 30 December 2015 15:39:37 Steve Matzura wrote:
>> Step 14 is "Install additional software." If the net install works
>> with speech, then I can do it. Without speech output from the built-in
>> screenreader, it's of no use to me without sighted assistance, which I
>> do not have.
>
>Sorry.  I hadn't taken in that you couldn't see.  I have a blind friend who 
>installs Debian periodically.  I'll ask him exactly how he does it.
>
>Lisi
>
>>
>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 04:28:52 +1300, you wrote:
>> >On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 10:22:30AM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote:
>> >> So since my installation is virgin and is failing at Step 14, should I
>> >> just start again and see if I get any further this time, or is there
>> >> anything I should choose or specify differently when trying again?
>> >
>> >I don't know what step 14 is, but you could just use the netinst CD and
>> >install from the net.
>



Re: New Install Fails at Step 14

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
Step 14 is "Install additional software." If the net install works
with speech, then I can do it. Without speech output from the built-in
screenreader, it's of no use to me without sighted assistance, which I
do not have.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 04:28:52 +1300, you wrote:

>On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 10:22:30AM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote:
>> So since my installation is virgin and is failing at Step 14, should I
>> just start again and see if I get any further this time, or is there
>> anything I should choose or specify differently when trying again?
>
>I don't know what step 14 is, but you could just use the netinst CD and
>install from the net.



Re: New Install Fails at Step 14

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 16:06:54 Steve Matzura wrote:
> That's quite all right, it's not something that's really important
> unless the non-full installs don't include screenreader support
> durinig the actual install, which they probably don't. You don't even
> have to ask your friend. If you happen to have a copy of the distro
> handy, boot it, and tell me if there's an option to start the
> installation with a screenreader, which is documented in the full
> install as the "S" option on the install menu.

I have already asked him.  Here is my question and his reply:

-
Can the Debian net-install be done with sound?



Yes.  After the beep I think it's control+S and return.  Sometimes it
speaks very quietly but it does speak.  Quite slowly.

I can write more if you need it.



Let me know if you would like more!

Lisi

>
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:49:35 +, you wrote:
> >On Wednesday 30 December 2015 15:39:37 Steve Matzura wrote:
> >> Step 14 is "Install additional software." If the net install works
> >> with speech, then I can do it. Without speech output from the built-in
> >> screenreader, it's of no use to me without sighted assistance, which I
> >> do not have.
> >
> >Sorry.  I hadn't taken in that you couldn't see.  I have a blind friend
> > who installs Debian periodically.  I'll ask him exactly how he does it.
> >
> >Lisi
> >
> >> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 04:28:52 +1300, you wrote:
> >> >On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 10:22:30AM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote:
> >> >> So since my installation is virgin and is failing at Step 14, should
> >> >> I just start again and see if I get any further this time, or is
> >> >> there anything I should choose or specify differently when trying
> >> >> again?
> >> >
> >> >I don't know what step 14 is, but you could just use the netinst CD and
> >> >install from the net.



Re: New Install Fails at Step 14

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 15:39:37 Steve Matzura wrote:
> Step 14 is "Install additional software." If the net install works
> with speech, then I can do it. Without speech output from the built-in
> screenreader, it's of no use to me without sighted assistance, which I
> do not have.

Sorry.  I hadn't taken in that you couldn't see.  I have a blind friend who 
installs Debian periodically.  I'll ask him exactly how he does it.

Lisi

>
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2015 04:28:52 +1300, you wrote:
> >On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 10:22:30AM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote:
> >> So since my installation is virgin and is failing at Step 14, should I
> >> just start again and see if I get any further this time, or is there
> >> anything I should choose or specify differently when trying again?
> >
> >I don't know what step 14 is, but you could just use the netinst CD and
> >install from the net.



Re: New Install Fails at Step 14

2015-12-30 Thread Steve Matzura
So since my installation is virgin and is failing at Step 14, should I
just start again and see if I get any further this time, or is there
anything I should choose or specify differently when trying again?



Re: New Install Fails at Step 14

2015-12-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 10:22:30AM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote:
> So since my installation is virgin and is failing at Step 14, should I
> just start again and see if I get any further this time, or is there
> anything I should choose or specify differently when trying again?

I don't know what step 14 is, but you could just use the netinst CD and
install from the net.

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X



Re: New Install Fails at Step 14

2015-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 30 December 2015 15:28:52 Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 10:22:30AM -0500, Steve Matzura wrote:
> > So since my installation is virgin and is failing at Step 14, should I
> > just start again and see if I get any further this time, or is there
> > anything I should choose or specify differently when trying again?
>
> I don't know what step 14 is, but you could just use the netinst CD and
> install from the net.

Great minds, think alike, Chris - see what I have just posted!!

Lisi



Re: New Install Fails at Step 14

2015-12-29 Thread Steve Matzura
No to both, as neither of those options appear in the install script.

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 18:35:38 -0500 (EST), you wrote:

>Did you set message priority to low and set logs to save to a mounted 
>partition?  The first adjustment asks more questions and the second 
>preserves logs if something blows up.  I think you can even have the 
>logs saved to floppy disk too.
>
>On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, Steve Matzura wrote:
>
>> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 16:14:54
>> From: Steve Matzura <s...@noisynotes.com>
>> To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
>> Subject: New Install Fails at Step 14
>> Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 21:20:56 + (UTC)
>> Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> 
>> I'm installing 8.2 from DVD with speech output. At Step 14, I select
>> the packages I want--Web server, ssh server, and #11 which just says
>> it's most of a lot of other things), and the install fails. I am not
>> using a mirror. My DVD's all pass muster as per option 20 (check
>> CD-ROM integrity). Option 14, "Install software," no longer gives me
>> the option of choosing which software I want to install. Further,
>> options 15 and 16 don't work either. They all tell me they can't
>> install anything to /target.
>>
>> Since this is a new install, I'm happy to redo anything at all, right
>> from scratch.
>>
>>



Re: New Install Fails at Step 14

2015-12-29 Thread Jude DaShiell
Did you set message priority to low and set logs to save to a mounted 
partition?  The first adjustment asks more questions and the second 
preserves logs if something blows up.  I think you can even have the 
logs saved to floppy disk too.


On Tue, 29 Dec 2015, Steve Matzura wrote:


Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 16:14:54
From: Steve Matzura <s...@noisynotes.com>
To: debian <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Subject: New Install Fails at Step 14
Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 21:20:56 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

I'm installing 8.2 from DVD with speech output. At Step 14, I select
the packages I want--Web server, ssh server, and #11 which just says
it's most of a lot of other things), and the install fails. I am not
using a mirror. My DVD's all pass muster as per option 20 (check
CD-ROM integrity). Option 14, "Install software," no longer gives me
the option of choosing which software I want to install. Further,
options 15 and 16 don't work either. They all tell me they can't
install anything to /target.

Since this is a new install, I'm happy to redo anything at all, right
from scratch.




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New Install Fails at Step 14

2015-12-29 Thread Steve Matzura
I'm installing 8.2 from DVD with speech output. At Step 14, I select
the packages I want--Web server, ssh server, and #11 which just says
it's most of a lot of other things), and the install fails. I am not
using a mirror. My DVD's all pass muster as per option 20 (check
CD-ROM integrity). Option 14, "Install software," no longer gives me
the option of choosing which software I want to install. Further,
options 15 and 16 don't work either. They all tell me they can't
install anything to /target.

Since this is a new install, I'm happy to redo anything at all, right
from scratch.