subject:"Not getting mailing list response in my inbox"

On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 15:32 +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote:
Hello to admins and mailing list managers...

I am not able to receive responses posted to my topics i mailed to the
list..Can someone help to sort out this issue? Is it gmail that is
preventing mails from getting in? #help

Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Archive:
http://lists.debian.org/CAHW9mbwzOdkhhfONhVXpTomjzbz73TkM6dOWC82zeHq=8zs...@mail.gmail.com

How did you subscribe?

- Ralf

PS: There's already a thread about your issue:

On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 11:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Fri, 2012-06-22 at 15:33 +, Camaleón wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:26:17 +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote:

For some reasons i am not able to get debian members response in
my
mailbox to my query posted on mailing list.

(...)

[snip]
For the rest of the article I share most of your feelings but won't
repeat because I alredy commented on this thread what are my
thoughts on
this.

FWIW sometime ago I posted the links to the archive at LAU, the OP of
the UEFI thread might take a look there:
Forwarded Message
From: Ralf Mardorf
To: linux-audio-user
Subject: [LAU] OT: Wait, did [UEFI] just really happen?
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:25:16 +0200

Take a look at
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/06/threads.html#00267
for the thread the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft.

I flagged the mail with the link to the article and will read it ASAP,
but I guess everything that could be written, already is written.

Regards,
Ralf

PS: Camaleón did the right thing when only replying to the list.
However, in this case a carbon copy might be wanted.

Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 12:06 +0200, I wrote:
 Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
 Archive:
 http://lists.debian.org/CAHW9mbwzOdkhhfONhVXpTomjzbz73TkM6dOWC82zeHq=8zs...@mail.gmail.com

Ignore the link to the archive, regarding to the topic ;), I just copied
and pasted the list's signature from another email. Write to the
listmaster and use the archive by date or thread.



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Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:32:27 +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote:

 Hello to admins and mailing list managers...

They don't use to be around here.

http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/index.en.html#maintenance

 I am not able to receive responses posted to my topics i mailed to the
 list..Can someone help to sort out this issue? Is it gmail that is
 preventing mails from getting in? #help

I already gave you some hints:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/06/msg01775.html

You will have to go to the mailing list archives if you want to read what 
other users reply, at least until you solve the problem.

P.S. I can't CC, sorry!

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Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 10:30 +, Camaleón wrote:
 [snip] I already gave you some hints: [snip]
 P.S. I can't CC, sorry!

So (at least) this mail is quiet useless ;). However, I send carbon
copies with all information that is needed, excepted of instructing not
to posting in HTML. So to the OP, if possible, don't format your emails,
but use plain text only.

What kind of ridiculous mailer can't carbon copy?
Mailer: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Really?
Perhaps borked software, resp. every mail to the OP, without a carbon
copy is spam to the list only.


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Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:45:19 +0200
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:

Hello Ralf,

What kind of ridiculous mailer can't carbon copy?
Mailer: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Really?

Pan is a newsreader, and doesn't do a lot of MUA stuff.

I know;  A newsreader isn't a mailer, but you get the idea.  This ML is
available as a newsgroup, so Cam's use of Pan is no great surprise to me.

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OT: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 12:20 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:45:19 +0200
 Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 
 Hello Ralf,
 
 What kind of ridiculous mailer can't carbon copy?
 Mailer: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Really?
 
 Pan is a newsreader, and doesn't do a lot of MUA stuff.
 
 I know;  A newsreader isn't a mailer, but you get the idea.  This ML is
 available as a newsgroup, so Cam's use of Pan is no great surprise to me.
 

Apologize to Cam ;). I wilfully was a little bit rough.


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Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:45:19 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

 On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 10:30 +, Camaleón wrote:
 [snip] I already gave you some hints: [snip] P.S. I can't CC, sorry!
 
 So (at least) this mail is quiet useless ;). 

There's the mailing list archive.

 However, I send carbon copies with all information that is needed,
 excepted of instructing not to posting in HTML. So to the OP, if
 possible, don't format your emails, but use plain text only.

That will be good for the user but he should know about the existance of 
the archives which are a common feature for every mailing list -not just 
this one for Debian- so he can go there to view the posts if he is 
interested.
 
 What kind of ridiculous mailer can't carbon copy? 

I'm not using a MUA but a newsreader.

 Mailer: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Really? Perhaps borked software,

There is no option to setup a smtp server in Pan, I only can post to the 
news server, which by the way, is exactly what I want.

 resp. every mail to the OP, without a carbon copy is spam to the list
 only.

(sigh) There's the mailing list archive.

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Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:51:29 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Camaleón,

There is no option to setup a smtp server in Pan, I only can post to

Isn't there?  There used to be.  Admittedly, it's only possible to
*either* follow up *or* reply, not both at the same time.  So anything
akin to CC is out of the question.

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OT: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

I only add OT to the subject ;p, Brad, Camaleón and to myself ;).


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Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:11:39 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:

 On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:51:29 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hello Camaleón,
 
There is no option to setup a smtp server in Pan, I only can post to
 
 Isn't there?  

Mmm... no.

 There used to be.  

In Pan? You can:

a/ Define the default app to handle e-mail, web browser and text editor.

b/ Reply only to the user (hitting r in Pan's parlance) but the message 
goes nowhere because no smtp server is in place so it's a dead end. In 
fact, what that option does in opening a new mesage in Thunderbird (my 
system's default MUA) with only the To and Subject fields filled 
(i.e., empty body, no quoted text).

Of course, I can manually create a new message from any of my MUAs but 
that's not going to happen because there is the archive ;-)

 Admittedly, it's only possible to *either* follow up *or* reply, not
 both at the same time.  So anything akin to CC is out of the question.

AFAICT, I only can post/follow-up normally to the mailing list.

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[OT] Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:38:27 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Camaleón,

In Pan? You can:

My memory is faulty;  I was thinking of old Pan (which I still prefer).
New Pan does lots of things differently.

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Re: [OT] Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 14:04:17 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:

 On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:38:27 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hello Camaleón,
 
In Pan? You can:
 
 My memory is faulty;  I was thinking of old Pan (which I still prefer).
 New Pan does lots of things differently.

I'm using Pan 0.132 (is what Lenny had).

Anyway, after reading this post I feel as if I were living in the 
dinosaurce era and thus feeling like a diplodocus...

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pan-devel/2007-08/msg5.html

I wish Wheezy comes out tomorrow ;-)

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Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

2012-06-23 Thread Chris Bannister

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 12:45:19PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 10:30 +, Camaleón wrote:
  [snip] I already gave you some hints: [snip]
  P.S. I can't CC, sorry!
 
 So (at least) this mail is quiet useless ;). However, I send carbon

+1

Does a falling tree make a sound when there is no one around to hear
it.
Now I know what that saying/proverb means.

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Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

2012-06-23 Thread Chris Bannister

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 01:11:39PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
 On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:51:29 + (UTC)
 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello Camaleón,
 
 There is no option to setup a smtp server in Pan, I only can post to
 
 Isn't there?  There used to be.  Admittedly, it's only possible to
 *either* follow up *or* reply, not both at the same time.  So anything
 akin to CC is out of the question.

At least a reply would make more sense in this case.

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who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing. --- Malcolm X


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Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

2012-06-23 Thread Osamu Aoki

Hi,

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 03:32:27PM +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote:
 Hello to admins and mailing list managers...
 
 I am not able to receive responses posted to my topics i mailed to the
 list..Can someone help to sort out this issue? Is it gmail that is
 preventing mails from getting in? #help

This is a famous Gmail feature.

You are sending mail from Gmail (Web interface I suppose.)

Then Gmail do not put looped mail into your inbox.

There are some archive mail here explaining where on Google help page
this is documented.

Osamu


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Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:20:46 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 03:32:27PM +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote:
 Hello to admins and mailing list managers...
 
 I am not able to receive responses posted to my topics i mailed to the
 list..Can someone help to sort out this issue? Is it gmail that is
 preventing mails from getting in? #help
 
 This is a famous Gmail feature.

(...)

I think you mean this:

***
Not receiving email from groups
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=entopic=1668979hlrm=esctx=topicanswer=6588
***

What Gmail's webmail filters is _your own_ replies but not the other user 
replies to your posts; that would be too much insane... even for 
Google ;-P

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Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:20:46 +0900
Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org wrote:

Hello Osamu,

Then Gmail do not put looped mail into your inbox.

AIUI, OP is bemoaning lack of _responses_ to queries, not the failure by
gmail to return own messages.

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Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

2012-06-23 Thread Lisi

On Saturday 23 June 2012 11:02:27 Harshad Joshi wrote:
 Hello to admins and mailing list managers...

 I am not able to receive responses posted to my topics i mailed to the
 list..Can someone help to sort out this issue? Is it gmail that is
 preventing mails from getting in? #help

Harshad,

This is the first email I have received from you.  Perhaps the lack of 
response is due to your emails not getting through.  Have you checked?

Lisi


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Re: [OT] Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

OT for the OT:

Brad's record collection.

I'm getting old :D. From Wire YouTube linked to Butthole Surfers.
However I asked Google to give me some Hüska Dü instead :p. I at least
should get Zen Arcade on vinyl, still on my list to buy before that
are the MC5's Babes in Arms and everything from Radio Birdman.

Man, I hope your records are on vinyl and not on CD.

Hard Rock unplugged :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzu49liJ93U


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Re: [OT] Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 14:14 +, Camaleón wrote:
 Anyway, after reading this post I feel as if I were living in the 
 dinosaurce era

Take a look at Brad's record collection. If you have any of his records,
than you are a dino. I don't have the same records, but my are from the
same ages.


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Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox

On Sun, 2012-06-24 at 03:05 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 12:45:19PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 10:30 +, Camaleón wrote:
   [snip] I already gave you some hints: [snip]
   P.S. I can't CC, sorry!
  
  So (at least) this mail is quiet useless ;). However, I send carbon
 
 +1
 
 Does a falling tree make a sound when there is no one around to hear
 it.
 Now I know what that saying/proverb means.

Philosophy for beginners, so we can continue with the Plato's allegory
of the cave :D. At the end we all will become educated, just because
we're subscribed to Debian user list :). An unwanted side effect. There
wasn't a warning!


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