Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-15 Thread martin f krafft
I'd appreciate if you would not CC me, as I request in the X-Followup-To header and the signature of each email. It could be a bad controller on the motherboard and it sounds like it. You may be damaging hard drives with a bad mootherboard. Right, but using five different machines? My

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-14 Thread Alvin Oga
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003, martin f krafft wrote: Folks, Over the past year, I have replaced something around 20 IDE Harddrives in 5 different computers running Debian because of drive faults. I know about IDE and that it's consumer quality and no more, but it can't be the case that the

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-14 Thread cr
On Monday 14 July 2003 10:48, Pigeon wrote: I've been mad for years, absolutely f**king years, I've been over the edge for yonks. :-) All Pink Floyd fans are anyway ;) cr ... comfortably numb... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach cr [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003.07.14.1057 +0200]: I've been mad for years, absolutely f**king years, I've been over the edge for yonks. :-) All Pink Floyd fans are anyway ;) I beg to differ. We are normal, the rest is mad! Aside, I believe that my reference to Uncle Freddie

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-14 Thread J F
martin f krafft wrote: problems), got the machine back into a running state, then ran `badblocks -svw` on the disk. And usually, I'd see a number of bad blocks, usually in excess of 100. Modern IDE and SCSI drives fix the bad blocks using the on chip microprocessor and give you a prefect

OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-13 Thread martin f krafft
Folks, Over the past year, I have replaced something around 20 IDE Harddrives in 5 different computers running Debian because of drive faults. I know about IDE and that it's consumer quality and no more, but it can't be the case that the failure rate is that high. The drives are mostly made by

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-13 Thread martin f krafft
What is weird is that S.M.A.R.T. reports no errors on most drives. I use the smartmontools, and even long offline tests don't produce any error information. -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' :proud Debian

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-13 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 06:51, martin f krafft wrote: Folks, Over the past year, I have replaced something around 20 IDE Harddrives in 5 different computers running Debian because of drive faults. I know about IDE and that it's consumer quality and no more, but it can't be the case that the

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-13 Thread Shri Shrikumar
On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 13:18, martin f krafft wrote: What is weird is that S.M.A.R.T. reports no errors on most drives. I use the smartmontools, and even long offline tests don't produce any error information. Martin, Try checking the drives on yet another machine; How old are these machines ?

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-13 Thread Pigeon
On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 01:51:23PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: Folks, Over the past year, I have replaced something around 20 IDE Harddrives in 5 different computers running Debian because of drive faults. I know about IDE and that it's consumer quality and no more, but it can't be the

Re: OT: IDE/Bad Blocks: Call for mental assistance

2003-07-13 Thread Alan Shutko
Alex Malinovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Some drives can, in fact do bad sector remapping on the fly. By some drives, you mean all drives sold in the last 10 years, right? However, manually finding bad blocks on a drive is no real cause for concern. When a bad sector is found, it should