Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-10-20 Thread Dr Beco
The freedom to offend? I'm sorry, but there is something wrong here. I think someone is misunderstanding netiquette (or etiquette) and good manners with freedom/censorship by law enforcement. A good mannered people is not forbidden to curse. He freely chooses not to. Well, in some cultures, you

Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-10-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 08:14:23PM +0100, Joe wrote: And finally, there are a few people who are just plain prickly... but one of the most important of all freedoms is the freedom to offend. Once that is outlawed, censorship becomes trivial to implement. Bollocks. -- If you're not careful,

Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-10-12 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 19:12 +0300, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: Imho, many of the rude people would be quite gentle and timid, if you met them in person. Perhaps :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-10-10 Thread Panayiotis Karabassis
On 10/05/2012 11:56 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Wed, 2012-10-03 at 15:07 +0300, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: And... Debian is notorious for mistreating newcomers! I have had a friend swear to never ask a question on Debian forums again, after the reply to his first question. I agree that

Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-10-10 Thread Joe
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 19:12:08 +0300 Panayiotis Karabassis pan...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, sure. I am not sure how this fits with the rest of the gnu/linux ideology, which is about freedom and community. I think the problem is exacerbated by the nature of internet communication, where it is both

Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-10-10 Thread Neal Murphy
On Wednesday, October 10, 2012 03:14:23 PM Joe wrote: And finally, there are a few people who are just plain prickly... but one of the most important of all freedoms is the freedom to offend. As is the freedom to choose to brush off offenses--be they real or perceived-- or to take them

Re: Fwd: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 14:13 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Lisi wrote: lina wrote: Chris wrote: Anyone else getting this? I got one before. From: debian-user joe1assis...@gmail.com Oh dear! Now someone else has quoted it. This isn't spam to the mailing list. This is spam from

Re: Joe's autoresponder finally turned off? [was: Re: Fwd: OT: man in the middle attack ?]

2012-08-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 23:30 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Andrei POPESCU wrote: After studying the headers a bit more I wrote an e-mail to a specific support@ address (which I will not reproduce here) and I even got an answer :) You are truly living a wondeful life to have gotten a

Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-22 Thread Stephen Allen
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:08:33AM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Ter, 21 Ago 2012, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I used sarcasm, but using sarcasm is bad behavior. And I'm not proud when I misbehave. The problem is that it is not the first time you misbehave. Nor the second, or even third.

Re: Joe's autoresponder finally turned off? [was: Re: Fwd: OT: man in the middle attack ?]

2012-08-22 Thread Dr Beco
From: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:26:54 +0300 Supposedly the autoresponder is turned off now. Please reply to this if you see more of those mails. Kind regards, Andrei Hi Andrei, I share Bob Proulx's comment: Thank you for pursuing this further. [2]

Re: Joe's autoresponder finally turned off? [was: Re: Fwd: OT: man in the middle attack ?]

2012-08-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-08-22 at 10:02 -0300, Dr Beco wrote: From: Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 08:26:54 +0300 Supposedly the autoresponder is turned off now. Please reply to this if you see more of those mails. Kind regards, Andrei Hi Andrei, I share Bob

OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 09:36 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Ma, 21 aug 12, 14:02:48, David wrote: On 21/08/2012, Phil Dobbin bukowskis...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to apologise for the abuse you have suffered at the hands of certain members of this list. Uncalled for, rude unhelpful.

OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 07:54 +0100, Lisi wrote: There are tribes in Africa who wear almost no clothes. That is in general illegal in public here. *chuckle* In Germany it's neither forbidden nor allowed and there are some few situations, when a judge is forced to decide, in what situation

Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Chris
I agree. The world has gone soft and to touchy feely, group hug for my liking... Say what you mean, and mean what you say... Sent from my HTC. - Reply message - From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2012 2:08 am Subject: OT: man in the middle attack

Fwd: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Chris
Anyone else getting this? Sent from my HTC. - Forwarded message - From: debian-user joe1assis...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2012 2:18 am Subject: OT: man in the middle attack ? To: rac...@makeworld.com __ Type your response ABOVE THIS LINE to reply

Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 09:08 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 07:54 +0100, Lisi wrote: There are tribes in Africa who wear almost no clothes. That is in general illegal in public here. *chuckle* In Germany it's neither forbidden nor allowed and there are some few

Re: Fwd: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 02:20 -0500, Chris wrote: joe1assis...@gmail.com joe1assis...@gmail.com is our best friend! ;). I suspect that most of us filter out joe1assis...@gmail.com for a long time. Yes, I (we) receive Joey's input too. - Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Fwd: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread lina
On Tuesday 21,August,2012 03:20 PM, Chris wrote: Anyone else getting this? I got one before. Sent from my HTC. - Forwarded message - From: debian-user joe1assis...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2012 2:18 am Subject: OT: man in the middle attack ? To: rac...@makeworld.com

Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Chris
Ahh. Thanks for the heads up. Sent from my HTC. - Reply message - From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2012 2:28 am Subject: OT: man in the middle attack ? To: Chris rac...@makeworld.com Cc: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 02

Re: Fwd: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 21 August 2012 08:20:15 Chris wrote: Anyone else getting this? Yes. I understood that quoting Spam confuses the filters. Lisi Sent from my HTC. - Forwarded message - From: debian-user joe1assis...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Fwd: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 21 August 2012 08:28:57 lina wrote: On Tuesday 21,August,2012 03:20 PM, Chris wrote: Anyone else getting this? I got one before. Sent from my HTC. - Forwarded message - From: debian-user joe1assis...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2012 2:18 am Oh dear! Now

Re: Fwd: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 08:33 +0100, Lisi wrote: On Tuesday 21 August 2012 08:20:15 Chris wrote: Anyone else getting this? Yes. I understood that quoting Spam confuses the filters. Lisi In this case it doesn't matter, we even could reply to Joe. Joe is immortal. The complete list was

Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Chris
... I have the perfect answer! Ban all of gmail *evil grin* That ought to do it! Sent from my HTC. - Reply message - From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net Date: Tue, Aug 21, 2012 2:43 am Subject: OT: man in the middle attack ? To: Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com Cc: debian-user

Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 21 aug 12, 02:47:29, Chris wrote: Joe doesn't annoy me, but it's not pleasant to read that Joe still annoys some people. IMO this address should be banned. It wouldn't help, as his[1] e-mails go to the private address, not to the list. [1] I'm quite sure it's a misconfigured

Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 10:59 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: I'm quite sure it's a misconfigured autoresponder I'm quiet sure that you're right :(. So replying Joe should have a positive effect, but it doesn't. Joe doesn't take care about incoming mails ;p. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 10:23 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Tue, 2012-08-21 at 10:59 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: I'm quite sure it's a misconfigured autoresponder I'm quiet sure that you're right :(. So replying Joe should have a positive effect, but it doesn't. Joe doesn't take care about

Re: Fwd: OT: man in the middle attack ?

2012-08-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Lisi wrote: lina wrote: Chris wrote: Anyone else getting this? I got one before. From: debian-user joe1assis...@gmail.com Oh dear! Now someone else has quoted it. This isn't spam to the mailing list. This is spam from a subscriber to the original posters. So it doesn't matter if

Joe's autoresponder finally turned off? [was: Re: Fwd: OT: man in the middle attack ?]

2012-08-21 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 21 aug 12, 14:13:06, Bob Proulx wrote: The joe1assistly bad robot is one of the recipients. It then does this: sender - mailing list - many recipients, including newsgroups joe1assistly - sender Mail from joe1assistly never hits the mailing list. There isn't anything the

Re: Joe's autoresponder finally turned off? [was: Re: Fwd: OT: man in the middle attack ?]

2012-08-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Andrei POPESCU wrote: After studying the headers a bit more I wrote an e-mail to a specific support@ address (which I will not reproduce here) and I even got an answer :) You are truly living a wondeful life to have gotten a response! :-) I discussed it with the Debian listmasters but there