Re: OT - gap -Re: Using bind mount

2016-01-16 Thread Daniel Bareiro

On 15/01/16 08:47, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 04:50:04PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> ;-)
>>
>> And please, no group "hugs" among strangers. ;-)

> I remember a 'poster' I had years ago which read "There are no strangers
> here, only friends we haven't met."  ;-)

What a good phrase!

About the group hug, I could not help remembering the end of this [1]
video (it has English subtitles) while writing the other email :-)


Kind regards,
Daniel

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkgvOA55JZ8



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Re: OT - gap -Re: Using bind mount

2016-01-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 04:50:04PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> ;-)
> 
> And please, no group "hugs" among strangers. ;-)

I remember a 'poster' I had years ago which read "There are no strangers
here, only friends we haven't met."  ;-)

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X



Re: OT - gap -Re: Using bind mount

2016-01-15 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 15 January 2016 11:47:32 Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 04:50:04PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > ;-)
> >
> > And please, no group "hugs" among strangers. ;-)
>
> I remember a 'poster' I had years ago which read "There are no strangers
> here, only friends we haven't met."  ;-)

:-)  O.K. Please, no group "hugs" among friends I haven't met yet.  ;-)  Let's 
wait until we know each other better. ;-)

Lisi



Re: OT - gap -Re: Using bind mount

2016-01-15 Thread Steve Matzura
On Fri, 15 Jan 2016 14:36:24 +, you wrote:

>:-)  O.K. Please, no group "hugs" among friends I haven't met yet.  ;-)  Let's 
>wait until we know each other better. ;-)

My arms are at my sides where they belong. :-)



Re: OT - gap -Re: Using bind mount

2016-01-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 14 January 2016 11:01:22 Daniel Bareiro wrote:
> On 13/01/16 19:08, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Wednesday 13 January 2016 09:38:12 Steve Matzura wrote:
> >> And once again, I ask you to hand me the spatula so's I can scrape the
> >> egg off my face. I completely forgot I needed to `mkdir -p' the mount
> >> point directory! IT WORKS! Didn't I say I was missing something
> >> stupid? :-)
> >>
> >> Now to look up the syntax for putting it into fstab to make it
> >> permanent. THANK YOU AGAIN EVER SO MUCH!
> >
> > Thank you, Steve. That may not have been for my benefit, but was what I
> > was talking about.  Between the smiley and the word "Now" there is a nice
> > big gap.  If you could break larger paragraphs up with more of those it
> > would be very helpful.
>
> Let us not be such a grouch :-)
>
> It's good to let people expressing themselves freely. Debian comes from
> precisely that freedom. So let's try to be a "little" more tolerant and
> let's relax, focusing on help to others rather than telling them how
> they should express.

How can I help someone when I can't read what he has written?
>
> Let's try to keep the inner peace and regulating our emotions :-)

Where do emotions come into it?
>
> So now let's give yourseves a big hug with "gzip -9" factor :-D

  Were you in Cologne?
>
> Best regards,
> Daniel

So you don't want to include the disabled?  You prefer those with problems to 
just shut up and let everyone flow freely?  

I had asked Steve to help me.  I did it on list because I am unlikely to be 
the only one affected.  Steve has complied.  

I am not grouchy.  Grouchy is when I delete things for being illegible, not 
when I ask for help in reading them.

Steve himself cannot see.   I thought (hoped) that he might be sympathetic and 
helpful to others with visual handicaps.  I was right.  He has helped.

Lisi



Re: OT - gap -Re: Using bind mount

2016-01-14 Thread Steve Matzura
Whoa folks, let's apply the brakes.

The fact is, if you think about it, Lisi is quite correct, but for a
reason she may not even realize. Visually impaired people, at least
those of us whose visual impairment is to the point where we don't use
print at all, don't hear in paragraphs, but anybody who deals with
information input via the mechanism of sight, does. I freely admit
that sometimes I forget this, too, and write run-on paragraphs that
should be broken into smaller segments, which I'm quite happy to do in
order to accommodate those photo-dependent (ha ha) among us who need
such things. In short, it's nothing to fight about or be
over-sensitive about.

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Re: OT - gap -Re: Using bind mount

2016-01-14 Thread Steve Matzura
On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:08:02 +, Lisi wrote:

>On Wednesday 13 January 2016 09:38:12 Steve Matzura wrote:
>> And once again, I ask you to hand me the spatula so's I can scrape the
>> egg off my face. I completely forgot I needed to `mkdir -p' the mount
>> point directory! IT WORKS! Didn't I say I was missing something
>> stupid? :-)
>>
>> Now to look up the syntax for putting it into fstab to make it
>> permanent. THANK YOU AGAIN EVER SO MUCH!
>
>Thank you, Steve. That may not have been for my benefit, but was what I was 
>talking about.  Between the smiley and the word "Now" there is a nice big 
>gap.  If you could break larger paragraphs up with more of those it would be 
>very helpful.

I suspect I got it.



Re: OT - gap -Re: Using bind mount

2016-01-14 Thread Daniel Bareiro


On 13/01/16 19:08, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 January 2016 09:38:12 Steve Matzura wrote:
>> And once again, I ask you to hand me the spatula so's I can scrape the
>> egg off my face. I completely forgot I needed to `mkdir -p' the mount
>> point directory! IT WORKS! Didn't I say I was missing something
>> stupid? :-)
>>
>> Now to look up the syntax for putting it into fstab to make it
>> permanent. THANK YOU AGAIN EVER SO MUCH!
> 
> Thank you, Steve. That may not have been for my benefit, but was what I was 
> talking about.  Between the smiley and the word "Now" there is a nice big 
> gap.  If you could break larger paragraphs up with more of those it would be 
> very helpful.

Let us not be such a grouch :-)

It's good to let people expressing themselves freely. Debian comes from
precisely that freedom. So let's try to be a "little" more tolerant and
let's relax, focusing on help to others rather than telling them how
they should express.

Let's try to keep the inner peace and regulating our emotions :-)

So now let's give yourseves a big hug with "gzip -9" factor :-D

Best regards,
Daniel



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Re: OT - gap -Re: Using bind mount

2016-01-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 14 January 2016 10:09:30 Steve Matzura wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:08:02 +, Lisi wrote:
> >On Wednesday 13 January 2016 09:38:12 Steve Matzura wrote:
> >> And once again, I ask you to hand me the spatula so's I can scrape the
> >> egg off my face. I completely forgot I needed to `mkdir -p' the mount
> >> point directory! IT WORKS! Didn't I say I was missing something
> >> stupid? :-)
> >>
> >> Now to look up the syntax for putting it into fstab to make it
> >> permanent. THANK YOU AGAIN EVER SO MUCH!
> >
> >Thank you, Steve. That may not have been for my benefit, but was what I
> > was talking about.  Between the smiley and the word "Now" there is a nice
> > big gap.  If you could break larger paragraphs up with more of those it
> > would be very helpful.
>
> I suspect I got it.

Yes, so do I.  All your recent emails have been totally legible.  One or two 
of your earlier ones I just gave up on.  Thank you very much.

Lisi



Re: OT - gap -Re: Using bind mount

2016-01-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 14 January 2016 16:07:56 Steve Matzura wrote:
> Whoa folks, let's apply the brakes.
>
> The fact is, if you think about it, Lisi is quite correct, but for a
> reason she may not even realize. Visually impaired people, at least
> those of us whose visual impairment is to the point where we don't use
> print at all, don't hear in paragraphs, but anybody who deals with
> information input via the mechanism of sight, does.

I don't!!  I am forced to use vocabulary that people might understand.  My 
husband needs *sound* broken up.  

My only blind computer programmer friend can process sound at a speed at which 
I cannot even make out words.  It isn't that I need paragraphs.  I need 
breaks, spaces - in the middle of sentences will do.  If things are too close 
together, I just can't see them.  They run into each other and jumble up.  
Find Nemo is a non-starter!!  

> I freely admit 
> that sometimes I forget this, too, and write run-on paragraphs that
> should be broken into smaller segments, which I'm quite happy to do in
> order to accommodate those photo-dependent (ha ha) among us who need
> such things. 

> In short, it's nothing to fight about or be 
> over-sensitive about.

Of course not!  I wasn't moaning or criticising - I wanted to read what you 
had written and asked whether you could accommodate me.  You asked what I 
meant - and we ended up here.  For the record, this block of text, before I 
broke it up to answer, was difficult for me.

But this whole conversation has made me realise something else I can do to my 
email client for special cases.  So it has been useful to me.

> -End-

;-)

And please, no group "hugs" among strangers. ;-)

Lisi



OT - gap -Re: Using bind mount

2016-01-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 13 January 2016 09:38:12 Steve Matzura wrote:
> And once again, I ask you to hand me the spatula so's I can scrape the
> egg off my face. I completely forgot I needed to `mkdir -p' the mount
> point directory! IT WORKS! Didn't I say I was missing something
> stupid? :-)
>
> Now to look up the syntax for putting it into fstab to make it
> permanent. THANK YOU AGAIN EVER SO MUCH!

Thank you, Steve. That may not have been for my benefit, but was what I was 
talking about.  Between the smiley and the word "Now" there is a nice big 
gap.  If you could break larger paragraphs up with more of those it would be 
very helpful.

Lisi