Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-16 Thread Lourens Steenkamp
Lourens replying to Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 13:36, Lourens Steenkamp wrote: Lourens replying to Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [big snip] Doesn't matter to me... I have a local mirror for the 4 archs I use. I have

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-14 Thread John Summerfield
William Ballard wrote: But keeping it clean primarily saves time. Nobody cares about disk space. Those running firewalls such as ipcop and APs such as pebble from compact flash care quitea bit. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-13 Thread Paul Gear
William Ballard wrote: ... I used to be obsessed with clean drives before I upgraded the 120MB Connor in my Amiga. Since then, I haven't spent much time worrying about it. But keeping it clean primarily saves time. Nobody cares about disk space. Why download upgrades to all those

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-13 Thread Paul Gear
Loki wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Kirk Strauser wrote: I cheated on my mirror: I installed a Squid server and pointed apt at that proxy. That way, there's no penalty of downloading more packages than needed, but additional hosts benefit from the packages already downloaded by earlier hosts.

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-12 Thread Lourens Steenkamp
Lourens replying to Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [big snip] Doesn't matter to me... I have a local mirror for the 4 archs I use. I have also aquired a mirror (woody, sarge, sid, experimental, security stuff, no src). Could you tell me how you keep your mirror in sync? TIA.

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-12 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Thursday 12 August 2004 12:36, Lourens Steenkamp wrote: I have also aquired a mirror (woody, sarge, sid, experimental, security stuff, no src). Could you tell me how you keep your mirror in sync? I cheated on my mirror: I installed a Squid server and pointed apt at that proxy. That way,

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-12 Thread Greg Folkert
On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 13:36, Lourens Steenkamp wrote: Lourens replying to Greg Folkert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [big snip] Doesn't matter to me... I have a local mirror for the 4 archs I use. I have also aquired a mirror (woody, sarge, sid, experimental, security stuff, no src).

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-12 Thread Loki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Kirk Strauser wrote: I cheated on my mirror: I installed a Squid server and pointed apt at that proxy. That way, there's no penalty of downloading more packages than needed, but additional hosts benefit from the packages

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-11 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 04:04, Tong Sun wrote: Looking at the packages I installed, I know there would be lots of them that I will never use. E.g., kscreensaver ktux xscreensaver kdewallpapers atlantik atlantikdesigner gnome-games gnome-games-data katomic kbackgammon kbattleship kblackbox

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-11 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 07:58:45 +0100, Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It might in the future lead to some hiccups; for example, if a new and necessary dependency were to be added to kde, you would miss it. Arguably, that would be added at the wrong level, though. Yes I think it would -

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-11 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 09:16:19PM -0700, William Ballard wrote: On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 10:27:58PM -0500, matt zagrabelny wrote: On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 22:04, Tong Sun wrote: try the 4th time. Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Obsessed with a clean system

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-11 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Tuesday 10 August 2004 22:04, Tong Sun wrote: Anybody here is as obsessed as I am for a clean system? No. Drives are cheap, but my time is not. I have a ridiculous number of packages installed (because Debian makes it cheap to experiment and I don't get too worked up about removing the

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-11 Thread William Ballard
On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 10:28:24AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: On Tuesday 10 August 2004 22:04, Tong Sun wrote: Anybody here is as obsessed as I am for a clean system? No. Drives are cheap, but my time is not. I have a ridiculous number of packages installed (because Debian makes it

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-11 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Wednesday 11 August 2004 10:33, William Ballard wrote: But keeping it clean primarily saves time. Nobody cares about disk space. Why download upgrades to all those packages you never need? Why fight broken upgrades on things? The OP did - he was deleting the contents of packages but

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-11 Thread Micha Feigin
On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 08:33:49AM -0700, William Ballard wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 10:28:24AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: On Tuesday 10 August 2004 22:04, Tong Sun wrote: Anybody here is as obsessed as I am for a clean system? No. Drives are cheap, but my time is not. I have

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-11 Thread Magnus Therning
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 12:32:12AM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 08:33:49AM -0700, William Ballard wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 10:28:24AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: On Tuesday 10 August 2004 22:04, Tong Sun wrote: Anybody here is as obsessed as I am for a clean system?

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-11 Thread Greg Folkert
On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 11:33, William Ballard wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 10:28:24AM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote: On Tuesday 10 August 2004 22:04, Tong Sun wrote: Anybody here is as obsessed as I am for a clean system? No. Drives are cheap, but my time is not. I have a ridiculous

Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-10 Thread Tong Sun
try the 4th time. Date:Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject:Obsessed with a clean system To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Anybody here is as obsessed as I am for a clean system? Looking at the packages I installed, I know there would be lots of them that I will never use

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-10 Thread matt zagrabelny
On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 22:04, Tong Sun wrote: try the 4th time. Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Obsessed with a clean system To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Anybody here is as obsessed as I am for a clean system? Looking at the packages I installed, I know

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-10 Thread Jacob S.
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 22:27:58 -0500 matt zagrabelny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 22:04, Tong Sun wrote: Anybody here is as obsessed as I am for a clean system? Looking at the packages I installed, I know there would be lots of them that I will never use. E.g.,

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-10 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Tong Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040811 05:04]: Looking at the packages I installed, I know there would be lots of them that I will never use. E.g., [..] I don't want them, but I have to keep them. This to me is a huge list. Why do you have to keep them? Yours sincerely, Alexander

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-10 Thread William Ballard
On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 10:27:58PM -0500, matt zagrabelny wrote: On Tue, 2004-08-10 at 22:04, Tong Sun wrote: try the 4th time. Date:Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:56:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject:Obsessed with a clean system To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Anybody here is as obsessed

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-10 Thread Jim McCloskey
Tong Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Anybody here is as obsessed as I am for a clean | system? | | Looking at the packages I installed, I know there | would be lots of them that I will never use. E.g., Two of the most useful Debian tools in this regard are `deborphan' and `debfoster' (both

Re: Obsessed with a clean system

2004-08-10 Thread Cameron Hutchison
Once upon a time Jim McCloskey said... Tong Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Anybody here is as obsessed as I am for a clean | system? | | Looking at the packages I installed, I know there | would be lots of them that I will never use. E.g., Two of the most useful Debian tools in this