Re: Ot: 6 or 7 nights to download a CD

2021-10-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

Russell L. Harris wrote:
> hopefully someone mentioned jigo -- the jigsaw downloader.

Well, if you mean Jigdo, then i can report that it is still alive:
  https://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/
It recently got a protocol upgrade to version 2, with SHA256 instead
of old MD5.

For most Debian ISO images it is the only download opportunity.
Be it 18 DVD sized images
  https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dvd/
or 4 BD sized images (25 GB)
  https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-bd/
or 2 BD DL sized images (50 GB)
  https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/jigdo-dlbd/

Only the CD edition ended after Jessie with 85 CD sized images.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas



Re: Ot: 6 or 7 nights to download a CD

2021-10-08 Thread Russell L. Harris

On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 11:23:46AM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:

There was one download manager that sold itself because it focused on
being able to continue on without having to restart the download.
Whatever that one in-browser manager was, that was my HERO for a
number of years... until I discovered wget. Once in a while there will
be a "gatekeeper" (cookie reliant) instance where wget also doesn't
work still and though.


I have not followed this thread, but hopefully someone mentioned jigo
-- the jigsaw downloader.

RLH


--
How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight,
except their Rock had sold them, and the Lord had shut them up?
- Deuteronomy 32:30



Re: Ot: 6 or 7 nights to download a CD (was: Re: RJ-11 phone line)

2021-10-08 Thread Cindy Sue Causey
On 10/8/21, rhkra...@gmail.com  wrote:
> On Thursday, October 07, 2021 07:43:02 AM Dan Ritter wrote:
>> Note that a minimal Debian install is around 500 MB, which would
>> take around 24 hours of a perfect 56K modem connection.
>
> I can remember when I got a fast modem (I forget if it was 28 or 33 kbps)
> and
> felt it was now reasonable to download an entire CD, doing it in 6 or 7
> nights
> (stopping it every morning to use the Internet for other stuff, restarting
> it
> every night.)
>
> (Wait, hopefully, that wasn't me that did that, maybe it was my grandfather


You were lucky to be able to continue on. Those were the days when
that wasn't an almost demanded prerequisite as part of a download
manager, e.g. wget's "-c / --continue" flag. Connections were so
flaky, so unstable that even a 3 or 4 megabyte sized file was an all
day event.

The last year that I was on dialup, the local provider suddenly sped
up to maybe taking an hour to download those same 3 or 4 megabyte
files. As it turned out, I was about the only person left using their
dialup server. It was faster because there was no competing web
traffic from other ISP customers.

There was one download manager that sold itself because it focused on
being able to continue on without having to restart the download.
Whatever that one in-browser manager was, that was my HERO for a
number of years... until I discovered wget. Once in a while there will
be a "gatekeeper" (cookie reliant) instance where wget also doesn't
work still and though.

The World needs to obsolete anything that's slower than the cheap
service I'm using right now (whatever it is). Speedier Internet
connections are a LIFE-altering necessity in the Age of Technology.
Beyond that, COVID-19 has turned quality of at-home Internet service
into a checkpoint regarding one's employability.

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
* runs with birdseed *



Ot: 6 or 7 nights to download a CD (was: Re: RJ-11 phone line)

2021-10-08 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, October 07, 2021 07:43:02 AM Dan Ritter wrote:
> Note that a minimal Debian install is around 500 MB, which would
> take around 24 hours of a perfect 56K modem connection.

I can remember when I got a fast modem (I forget if it was 28 or 33 kbps) and 
felt it was now reasonable to download an entire CD, doing it in 6 or 7 nights 
(stopping it every morning to use the Internet for other stuff, restarting it 
every night.)  

(Wait, hopefully, that wasn't me that did that, maybe it was my grandfather 
;-)