Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-10 Thread deloptes
Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: Thank you Alexander V. Makartsev > You can monitor and log temperatures and other characteristics with > 'psensor'. > TCase of i5-4570T is only 66.35°C and that means CPU will have to keep > the temperature at that point or lower. > I'd expect an idle temperature

Re: PC fan getting very loud because of CPU load

2021-05-10 Thread deloptes
Celejar wrote: > https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/mu2qcm/indefinitely_increasing_blocked_elements/ > > I'm not sure that I would interpret this sort of thing as the website > putting up an aggressive fight or deliberately trying to burn out > anyone's computer, but it is an

Re: PC fan getting very loud because of CPU load

2021-05-09 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 8 May 2021 17:18:35 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > Bret Busby wrote: > > > > I think this goes to the issue of client side processing, as opposed to > > server side processing ( I believe, and, argue, that all processing involved > > with web sites, should be server side, if the web sites

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-09 Thread Tixy
On Sun, 2021-05-09 at 12:13 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > > Put this mini-PC under any, not just Firefox, multi-threaded workload > > > and you will have the same outcome. > > deloptes wrote: > > What would be a good test to find out if this theory is

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > > Put this mini-PC under any, not just Firefox, multi-threaded workload > > and you will have the same outcome. deloptes wrote: > What would be a good test to find out if this theory is true? Did you already compare the Firefoxes about the number of threads

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-09 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 09.05.2021 12:49, deloptes wrote: Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: On 09.05.2021 02:30, deloptes wrote: Charles Curley wrote: Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the fan gets extremly noisy. I have a similar problem with some of my older laptops. I have

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-09 Thread deloptes
Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > On 09.05.2021 02:30, deloptes wrote: >> Charles Curley wrote: >> Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the fan gets extremly noisy. >>> I have a similar problem with some of my older laptops. I have switched >>> to Vivaldi

Re: PC fan getting very loud because of CPU load

2021-05-09 Thread deloptes
Bret Busby wrote: > I think this goes to an issue, over which, I tend to get into heated > arguments, including with my wife, who is a software developer, who > develops web sites that I believe to be responsible. > > In the original post, from memory, was stated that it happened with some > web

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-09 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 09.05.2021 02:30, deloptes wrote: Charles Curley wrote: Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the fan gets extremly noisy. I have a similar problem with some of my older laptops. I have switched to Vivaldi (based on chromium), and that has reduced the problem

Re: PC fan getting very loud because of CPU load

2021-05-08 Thread Stefan Monnier
deloptes [2021-05-08 21:33:47] wrote: > Dan Ritter wrote: >> It is also the case that fans are cheap. Replacing one for >> $10-20 is generally good for another 5-10 years. > But the question is why it runs > 100% - the fan is not that important in > the case. It could be replaced with not so loud

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/5/21 5:36 am, Weaver wrote: On 09-05-2021 07:03, Bret Busby wrote: On 9/5/21 4:05 am, Charles Curley wrote: On Sat, 08 May 2021 11:13:34 +0200 deloptes wrote: Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the fan gets extremly noisy. I have a similar problem with

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread Weaver
On 09-05-2021 07:03, Bret Busby wrote: > On 9/5/21 4:05 am, Charles Curley wrote: >> On Sat, 08 May 2021 11:13:34 +0200 >> deloptes wrote: >> >>> Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the >>> fan gets extremly noisy. >> >> I have a similar problem with some of my older

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread deloptes
Charles Curley wrote: >> Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the >> fan gets extremly noisy. > > I have a similar problem with some of my older laptops. I have switched > to Vivaldi (based on chromium), and that has reduced the problem > considerably. Firefox is a

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/5/21 4:05 am, Charles Curley wrote: On Sat, 08 May 2021 11:13:34 +0200 deloptes wrote: Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the fan gets extremly noisy. I have a similar problem with some of my older laptops. I have switched to Vivaldi (based on chromium),

Re: PC fan getting very loud because of CPU load

2021-05-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Bret Busby wrote: > > I think this goes to the issue of client side processing, as opposed to > server side processing ( I believe, and, argue, that all processing involved > with web sites, should be server side, if the web sites are competently and > benignly written, and that client side

Client-side vs. server-side Website processing (was Re: PC fan getting very loud because of CPU load)

2021-05-08 Thread The Wanderer
On 2021-05-08 at 16:47, Bret Busby wrote: > I think this goes to the issue of client side processing, as opposed > to server side processing ( I believe, and, argue, that all > processing involved with web sites, should be server side, if the web > sites are competently and benignly written, and

Re: PC fan getting very loud because of CPU load

2021-05-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 9/5/21 3:33 am, deloptes wrote: Dan Ritter wrote: It is also the case that fans are cheap. Replacing one for $10-20 is generally good for another 5-10 years. But the question is why it runs > 100% - the fan is not that important in the case. It could be replaced with not so loud one, but

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 08 May 2021 11:13:34 +0200 deloptes wrote: > Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the > fan gets extremly noisy. I have a similar problem with some of my older laptops. I have switched to Vivaldi (based on chromium), and that has reduced the problem

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread Joe
On Sat, 8 May 2021 12:22:45 -0400 Dan Ritter wrote: > Joe wrote: > > On Sat, 08 May 2021 11:13:34 +0200 > > deloptes wrote: > > > > > Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox > > > the fan gets extremly noisy. > > > > Is the fan actually louder than it used to be

Re: PC fan getting very loud because of CPU load

2021-05-08 Thread deloptes
Dan Ritter wrote: > It is also the case that fans are cheap. Replacing one for > $10-20 is generally good for another 5-10 years. > But the question is why it runs > 100% - the fan is not that important in the case. It could be replaced with not so loud one, but the CPU will still run at 100+ %

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread Dan Ritter
Joe wrote: > On Sat, 08 May 2021 11:13:34 +0200 > deloptes wrote: > > > Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the > > fan gets extremly noisy. > > Is the fan actually louder than it used to be on the same load? Many > fans, and not just the cheap ones, are

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > Is the fan actually louder than it used to be on the same load? Many > fans, and not just the cheap ones, are 'lubricated for life', where > 'life' means 'until the lubricant dries up'. > > It's a pain doing anything about this, as it is almost always necessary > to remove the rotor

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread deloptes
piorunz wrote: > Have you checked CPU usage of various processes? It's not uncommon to > CPU be stuck at 100% due to various reasons, it's not limited to Firefox. it is definitely the firefox on this PC

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread piorunz
On 08/05/2021 10:13, deloptes wrote: Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the fan gets extremly noisy. Have you checked CPU usage of various processes? It's not uncommon to CPU be stuck at 100% due to various reasons, it's not limited to Firefox. Check htop

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread Joe
On Sat, 08 May 2021 11:13:34 +0200 deloptes wrote: > Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the > fan gets extremly noisy. Is the fan actually louder than it used to be on the same load? Many fans, and not just the cheap ones, are 'lubricated for life', where 'life'

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread deloptes
deloptes wrote: > Another difference is that on the C700 I use firefox from mozilla.org > while on the ESPRIMO Q520 I seem to have installed firefox-esr. > > Also on the ESPRIMO Q520 skype uses 50% CPU and on the C700 5% :/ > Turned out when I was monitoring they were using skype so it can be

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread Michael Grant
> You had some bad liquid cooler then, or damaged water pump. I have AIO > liquid cooler from Corsair, bought it together with Ryzen 95W CPU about > 4 years ago, haven't reapplied paste since then. No cleaning done > either, apart from de-dusting case every 6 months or so. Temperatures > are

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread piorunz
On 08/05/2021 11:06, Michael Grant wrote: I also recently had something like this happen. I tried to redo the thermal paste between the CPU and cooler but it did not help. I have a liquid cooler on my CPU. Apparently these things get clogged up over time. They need to be replaced (or taken

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread deloptes
Michael Grant wrote: > I also recently had something like this happen.  I tried to redo the > thermal paste between the CPU and cooler but it did not help.  I have > a liquid cooler on my CPU.  Apparently these things get clogged up > over time.  They need to be replaced (or taken apart carefully

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread Michael Grant
On Sat, May 08, 2021 at 11:23:06AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2021-05-08 11:13 +0200, deloptes wrote: > > > Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the fan > > gets extremly noisy. > > Such is the modern web. :-( I also recently had something like this happen. I

Re: PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2021-05-08 11:13 +0200, deloptes wrote: > Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the fan > gets extremly noisy. Such is the modern web. :-( > On a Fujitsu C700 with the same setup there is no such problem - although I > probably do not open these sites - but some

PC fan getting very loud

2021-05-08 Thread deloptes
Fujitsu ESPRIMO Q520 when opening some sh*tty web sitesin firefox the fan gets extremly noisy. On a Fujitsu C700 with the same setup there is no such problem - although I probably do not open these sites - but some other sites cause a lot of load and still the fan is not getting so noisy.