Sendmail on Potato Upgrade
We are upgrading one of our mail servers from Slink to Potato. Under Slink it had sendmail version 9.9.3-3. Under the new Potato the sendmail is version 8.9.3-23. All seems to go OK except in the syslog file I'm now seeing messages like that have NOQUEUE: Authentication-Warning: here is an example exchange: Mar 27 21:06:04 mail sendmail[7062]: NOQUEUE: Authentication-Warning: mail.pcez.com: Host dsl-uswest-ip22.pop1.net [208.170.194.22] claimed to be Terry Mar 27 21:06:08 mail sendmail[7062]: VAA07062: from=[EMAIL PROTECTED], size=36438, class=0, pri=96438, nrcpts=2,msgid= [EMAIL PROTECTED], proto=SMTP, relay=dsl-uswest-ip22.pop1.net [208.170.194.22] Mar 27 21:06:10 mail sendmail[7072]: VAA07062:to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], ctladdr=[EMAIL PROTECTED] (1498/100), delay=00:00:06, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=esmtp, relay=ma.creaf.com. [198.95.32.5],stat=Sent (VAA20457 Message accepted for delivery) Is there something that should be done with this or is it just informational? Thanks, Ken Rea
Re: Sendmail on Potato Upgrade
Account for Debian group mail wrote: Is there something that should be done with this or is it just informational? safe to ignore. if you want to get rid of it check the sendmail docs, i think that falls under the privacyoptions directive. nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
potato upgrade sound problem with Yamaha OPL3-SA2
hello everyone, i wonder if anyone might be able to help me or if anyone has had a similar problem. Since upgrading to potato i've been unable to get sound to work. I know looking in the archives that this sort of problem seems to occur regularly but i haven't yet found a solution. i've got a Yamaha OPL3-SA2 chip on my motherboard (which worked under slink). My version of potato is up-to-date as of 31/05/00 and i'm running kernel version 2.2.15. I can get sound by playing audio cds directly but no other way, for instance: $ play *.wav playing *.wav sox: Invalid audio buffer size 0 $ mpg123 *.mp3 [..] Can't open /dev/dsp! When i try to load the opl3sa2 module I get the following problem: $ insmod opl3sa2 io=0x100 mss_io=0xE80 mpu_io=0x300 irq=10 dma=1 dma2=3 Using /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/opl3sa2.o /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/opl3sa2.o: init_module: Device or resource busy Hint: this error can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters These are the settings that i was happily using before the upgrade. 'isapnp' seems to be happy with them. My /etc/isapnp.conf file looks like: (ISOLATE) (IDENTIFY *) (CONFIGURE YMH0030/2156265473 (LD 0 (IO 0 (BASE 0x0220)) (IO 1 (BASE 0x0E80)) (IO 2 (BASE 0x0388)) (IO 3 (BASE 0x0300)) (IO 4 (BASE 0x0100)) (INT 0 (IRQ 10 (MODE +E))) (DMA 0 (CHANNEL 1)) (DMA 1 (CHANNEL 3 (WAITFORKEY) and isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf gives: Board 1 has Identity cb 80 86 00 01 30 00 a8 65: YMH0030 Serial No 2156265473 [checksum cb] I've tried many, many other combinations of possible io/irq/dma settings to no avail. I'm stumped, especially since i can't spot any io/irq's that clash with the above choice (or any others that i've tried). $ cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 902274 XT-PIC timer 1: 15151 XT-PIC keyboard 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 12: 24835 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse 13: 1 XT-PIC fpu 14: 78939 XT-PIC ide0 15:414 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 $ cat /proc/ioports -001f : dma1 0020-003f : pic1 0040-005f : timer 0060-006f : keyboard 0080-008f : dma page reg 00a0-00bf : pic2 00c0-00df : dma2 00f0-00ff : fpu 0170-0177 : ide1 01f0-01f7 : ide0 0376-0376 : ide1 0378-037a : parport0 03c0-03df : vga+ 03f6-03f6 : ide0 03f8-03ff : serial(set) fcd0-fcd7 : ide0 fcd8-fcdf : ide1 $ cat /proc/dma 4: cascade As you can see the following doesn't look good: $ cat /dev/sndstat SS/Free:3.8s2++-971130 Load type: Driver loaded as a module Kernel: Linux tonic 2.2.15 #1 Thu Jun 1 16:24:23 BST 2000 i686 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Card config: Audio devices: Synth devices: Midi devices: Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: the modules that i have got to load look like: $ lsmod Module Size Used by [..] opl3 11304 0 ad1848 16752 0 mpu401 19184 0 sound 57452 0 [opl3 ad1848 mpu401] soundcore 2564 3 [sound] If anyone can shed any sort of light on my problem i'd be very grateful. I currently feel like i'm going round in circles. I've read all the documentation that i can find but have not yet had any luck. That said, it wouldn't surprise me if i was doing something stupid. If there is any other information about my setup that might be relevant - i'll happily provide it. Very much looking forward to your ideas, TIA, steve -- steve felderhof ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) institute for adaptive and neural computation, division of informatics, edinburgh university. +44 (0)131 650 4492
potato upgrade warning
Hi all: Just finished upgrading to potato and have a warning both at start up and when shutting down: [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab Do I just edit /etc/fstab and put final on the last line? tia Dean
RE: potato upgrade warning
On 31-May-2000 Dean wrote: Hi all: Just finished upgrading to potato and have a warning both at start up and when shutting down: [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab Do I just edit /etc/fstab and put final on the last line? tia Dean unless something ate a bit of /etc/fstab, sure. If you are actually missing a piece of fstab (which could be the problem) it made take more work.
Re: potato upgrade warning
Dean wrote: Hi all: Just finished upgrading to potato and have a warning both at start up and when shutting down: [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab Do I just edit /etc/fstab and put final on the last line? tia Dean -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null hello i confirm that you should add a newline at the end of your file and everything will be ok i probed it myself and had the same problem before -- .~. Linux : le meilleur moyen de faire fonctionner ses neurones /V\ // \\ Linux : the best therapy there is for somebody's brain /( )\ debian 2.2 potato thanks tomsrtbt for the logo ^`~'^
New kernel needed for potato upgrade?
Can some one explain the relation between kernel upgrade and slink-potato upgrade? I had a working slink, and did this: 1) updated from my 2.0.36 kernel to 2.2.14 by installing just kernel-image-2.2.14-ide. This was a failure in that after the update, (on network start, I think) I saw messages like SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument ... eth0: not found and I had no network connection. So I uninstalled and went back to 2.0.36 2) Reading in some doc that potato supports both 2.0 and 2.2 kernels, I did a slink-potato upgrade. Almost everything worked, but I got messages telling me update-modules failed, and several warnings about modutils, seemingly indicating something in potato is not completely happy with my 2.0.36 kernel or its configuration. Right now, the only thing that is not working is pulling mail from a local IMAP server. After my upgrade, I can't do it, from either vm under emacs, or from the Netscape mail client. (Thank goodness for VMWare -- I can still my mail from Netscape under Win98 under VMWare under potato). So: Do I need the new kernel? Is it possible the modutils problems are related to the bum access to IMAP? Thanks for any help, Will Dowling ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: New kernel needed for potato upgrade?
I'd advice you to build a kernel for your system (compile it yourself from sources) and about the modutils... ;-( I've had it with every system I installed potato or woody on, so no my /etc/init.d/modutils looks something like this: #!/bin/sh echo No way I'm gonna load any modules here... echo I'll do it when I need them (Actually they are in dutch, but I don't know if you would understand that ;) ) And as it says, if I need a module anywhere (I hardly ever do because I got most things in my kernel, except for a networkcard module) I load them in. So the first lines of my /etc/init.d/network (after the #!/bin/sh) looks like: /sbin/insmod rtl8139 /sbin/insmod smc-ultra That way it works the way I want it to work... ;-) Ron Rademaker On Tue, 30 May 2000, William Dowling wrote: Can some one explain the relation between kernel upgrade and slink-potato upgrade? I had a working slink, and did this: 1) updated from my 2.0.36 kernel to 2.2.14 by installing just kernel-image-2.2.14-ide. This was a failure in that after the update, (on network start, I think) I saw messages like SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument ... eth0: not found and I had no network connection. So I uninstalled and went back to 2.0.36 2) Reading in some doc that potato supports both 2.0 and 2.2 kernels, I did a slink-potato upgrade. Almost everything worked, but I got messages telling me update-modules failed, and several warnings about modutils, seemingly indicating something in potato is not completely happy with my 2.0.36 kernel or its configuration. Right now, the only thing that is not working is pulling mail from a local IMAP server. After my upgrade, I can't do it, from either vm under emacs, or from the Netscape mail client. (Thank goodness for VMWare -- I can still my mail from Netscape under Win98 under VMWare under potato). So: Do I need the new kernel? Is it possible the modutils problems are related to the bum access to IMAP? Thanks for any help, Will Dowling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: New kernel needed for potato upgrade?
Quoting William Dowling ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Can some one explain the relation between kernel upgrade and slink-potato upgrade? They're separate issues in the main. What you have to be careful about is that you don't accidently upgrade packages that are related to the kernel rather than the distribution, e.g. pcmcia stuff. I had a working slink, and did this: 1) updated from my 2.0.36 kernel to 2.2.14 by installing just kernel-image-2.2.14-ide. This was a failure in that after the update, (on network start, I think) I saw messages like SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument ... eth0: not found and I had no network connection. So I uninstalled and went back to 2.0.36 2.0.x kernels have route commands in /etc/init.d/network whereas 2.2.x kernels set them up automatically already so the redundant commands produce the error messages. Ignore them. http://www.uk.debian.org/releases/stable/running-kernel-2.2 has a reference to a slink-compatible version of netbase suitable for 2.2.x kernels. 2) Reading in some doc that potato supports both 2.0 and 2.2 kernels, I did a slink-potato upgrade. Almost everything worked, but I got messages telling me update-modules failed, and several warnings about modutils, seemingly indicating something in potato is not completely happy with my 2.0.36 kernel or its configuration. If you're back on 2.0.x, just check that /etc/conf.modules is correct. This file used to be maintained by you, but is now built from /etc/modutils/* which is the same stuff but distributed across several files so that you only have to maintain your bits, principally local. So: Do I need the new kernel? Is it possible the modutils problems are related to the bum access to IMAP? No idea. Not working doesn't help. But you can check that any modules you need are loaded by comparing /etc/modules with /proc/modules. Bear in mind that /etc/modules needs checking if you change kernels, particularly anything involving stock kernels. (If you compiled your own 2.0.x and 2.2.x with the same flavours (as I do), there may be no changes required.) You will probably notice that kerneld is replaced by kmod and that automatic rmmod'ing is done differently (by a cron every 20 mins). Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Xconsole craps out after Potato-upgrade
Hi Debs Previously (in slink, 4 days ago), Xconsole was run when launching fvwm. Now, it doesn't start automagically, and gives an error: Couldn't open console when I start it manually. I find it quite annoying; I've gotten used to keeping an eye on the modem when dialing and my ailing /dev/hdc (old WD drive). Any ideas? Best Regards Vitux -- I'm not a crook Richard Nixon Debian GNU/Linux Micro$loth-free Zone
Re: Xconsole craps out after Potato-upgrade
if you didn't specify the file option, try: xconsole -file /dev/xconsole On Mon, May 29, 2000 at 03:47:53PM +0200, Vitux wrote: Hi Debs Previously (in slink, 4 days ago), Xconsole was run when launching fvwm. Now, it doesn't start automagically, and gives an error: Couldn't open console when I start it manually. I find it quite annoying; I've gotten used to keeping an eye on the modem when dialing and my ailing /dev/hdc (old WD drive). Any ideas? Best Regards Vitux -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Alantro Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xconsole craps out after Potato-upgrade
On Mon, May 29, 2000 at 03:47:53PM +0200, Vitux wrote: Previously (in slink, 4 days ago), Xconsole was run when launching fvwm. Now, it doesn't start automagically, and gives an error: Couldn't open console when I start it manually. I find it quite annoying; I've gotten used to keeping an eye on the modem when dialing and my ailing /dev/hdc (old WD drive). The automatic running of xconsole was removed in 3.3.6-1, because it's somewhat of a security hole (see http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=yesbug=40745). If you want it back, you can either add your user to whatever group owns /dev/xconsole or edit the appropriate file in /etc/X11/xdm/ -- finger for GPG public key. pgpIOEky0DA9j.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Xconsole craps out after Potato-upgrade
Brad wrote: On Mon, May 29, 2000 at 03:47:53PM +0200, Vitux wrote: Previously (in slink, 4 days ago), Xconsole was run when launching fvwm. Now, it doesn't start automagically, and gives an error: Couldn't open console when I start it manually. I find it quite annoying; I've gotten used to keeping an eye on the modem when dialing and my ailing /dev/hdc (old WD drive). The automatic running of xconsole was removed in 3.3.6-1, because it's somewhat of a security hole (see http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?archive=yesbug=40745). If you want it back, you can either add your user to whatever group owns /dev/xconsole or edit the appropriate file in /etc/X11/xdm/ -- I see. Security isn't such a big issue on this stand-alone home-use box, but anyway: how do I find out which group owns /dev/xconsole? Thanks for the enlightenment! Regards Vitux -- I'm not a crook Richard Nixon Debian GNU/Linux Micro$loth-free Zone
Re: Xconsole craps out after Potato-upgrade
On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 12:59:08AM +0200, Vitux wrote: I see. Security isn't such a big issue on this stand-alone home-use box, but anyway: how do I find out which group owns /dev/xconsole? ls -l /dev/xconsole Should be root.adm and be a fifo /dev/xconsole| -- ¶ One·should·only·use·the·ASCII·characterset·when·compos » ing·email·messages.
Potato upgrade - Gnome has lost all but the basic icons on desktop
After upgrading (Storm Linux) Slink to Potato I have found that Gnome no longer displays the icons of my choice on the desktop. I get only the standard folder and document icons. If I try to change them I can go through the motions, but the new icon is not displayed on the desktop. My ~/.xsession-errors file shows a number of errors: Looking in .xrdb: Permission denied xrdb: can't open file '/etc/X11/Xresources/xbase-clients' SESSION_MANAGER=local/scgf:/tmp/.ICE-unix/774,tcp/scgf:1068 rm: cannot remove `/home/gsmh/.gnome//gmc-JMCr3a': No such file or directory GLib-WARNING **: getpwuid_r(): failed due to: No such user 1000. Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkpixmap.c: line 97 (gtk_pixmap_new): assertion `val != NULL' failed. Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkcontainer.c: line 706 (gtk_container_add): assertion `widget != NULL' failed. Gtk-CRITICAL **: file gtkwidget.c: line 1434 (gtk_widget_show): assertion `widget != NULL' failed. subshell.c: couldn't get terminal settings: Inappropriate ioctl for device ** WARNING **: Error setting the icon position metadata for /home/gsmh/.gnome-desktop/Home directory ** WARNING **: Error setting the icon position metadata for /home/gsmh/.gnome-desktop/hda5 ** WARNING **: Error setting the icon position metadata for /home/gsmh/.gnome-desktop/hda2 ** WARNING **: Error setting the icon position metadata for /home/gsmh/.gnome-desktop/hdc1 ** WARNING **: Error setting the icon position metadata for /home/gsmh/.gnome-desktop/Palm Pilot.desktop ** WARNING **: Error setting the icon position metadata for /home/gsmh/.gnome-desktop/TkDesk.desktop ** WARNING **: Root window clicks will not work as no GNOME-compliant window manager could be found! I have no .xrdb (what is it?!), I use icewm-gnome as my WM and I have adjusted the permissions of /etc/X11/Xresources/xbase-clients. I am gsmh on my system which corresponds to 1000. What gives? Anyone else had this problem? I have upgraded a virgin Slink install three times now and each time I get the same problem. I have tried using Sawmill and get the same problem, so I doubt if it is WM related. Logging on a root displays the same problem too. Cheers. -- Phillip Deackes
slink - potato upgrade - safe NOW?
I need to move on to the 2.2.x kernel and glibc 2.1. Is there anywhere look for some guidelines/problems if I upgrade now? The list of 271 release-critical bugs is a bit scary... ...RickM...
Re: obsolete packages after potato upgrade...
rich wrote: Is it OK to remove all of the packages that dselect calls obsolete after potato upgrade? - I would be careful about that. Some of your custom installed software may need some of the so called obsolete packages. For instance Wordperfect and netscape non-debian installs both require some of the xpm4 libs and StarOffice as well. Check carefully the dependencies of any installed non-debian software before removing these. Best Wishes! -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
/dev/mixer hosed by potato upgrade...
Howdy, After upgrading, I cannot turn on my audio mixer anymore: wmmixer : Unable to open mixer device '/dev/mixer'. wmmixer : Sorry, no supported channels found. I have also seen some messages about /dev/dsp being gone, and xwave says: cannot access audio device... Any ideas? Thanks in advance Rich
Re: /dev/mixer hosed by potato upgrade...
* rich said: I have also seen some messages about /dev/dsp being gone, and xwave says: cannot access audio device... Any ideas? Are you using ALSA? pgpqLlyeCNLmq.pgp Description: PGP signature
obsolete packages after potato upgrade...
Is it OK to remove all of the packages that dselect calls obsolete after potato upgrade?
RE: obsolete packages after potato upgrade...
Generally, yes. Just use dselect to do it. If it bitches about broken dependencies, put it back. Bryan On 21-Jan-2000 rich wrote: Is it OK to remove all of the packages that dselect calls obsolete after potato upgrade? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
early potato upgrade error-no confmodule ??
Just dl'd packages for a dist-upgrade, then started the actual processing run (I always get the packages first), but got an immediate error... Need to get 0B/150MB of archives. After unpacking 8489kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 100% [Scanning packages] Configuring packages.. /tmp/fileAsdL1s: /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: No such file or directory E: Sub-process dpkg-preconfig --apt returned an error code (1) E: Failure running script dpkg-preconfig --apt kaynjay:~# ??? What am I missing here? Do I need to grab a specific package, install it, then rerun this? Appreciate any help with this! Kenward Vaughan
Re: early potato upgrade error-no confmodule ??
On Wed, Jan 05, 2000 at 10:30:26PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just dl'd packages for a dist-upgrade, then started the actual processing run (I always get the packages first), but got an immediate error... ... Configuring packages.. /tmp/fileAsdL1s: /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: No such file or directory ... I checked this... found /usr/share/debconf/confmodule.sh dated 10/5/99. KV
Re: early potato upgrade error-no confmodule ??
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just dl'd packages for a dist-upgrade, then started the actual processing run (I always get the packages first), but got an immediate error... Need to get 0B/150MB of archives. After unpacking 8489kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 100% [Scanning packages] Configuring packages.. /tmp/fileAsdL1s: /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: No such file or directory E: Sub-process dpkg-preconfig --apt returned an error code (1) E: Failure running script dpkg-preconfig --apt kaynjay:~# ??? What am I missing here? Do I need to grab a specific package, install it, then rerun this? Yes, upgrade debconf to the current version. You presumably last updated this machine over 3 months ago, and it has been running a old version of unstable all this time. -- see shy jo
potato upgrade, probs with perl-base
I am getting into some kind of loop and I need to remove perl-base (temporarily) but it is an essential package. The other way around this is to activate APT::Force LoopBreak but I don't know what that means and the apt man pages do not tell me what that is. Any ideas on how I can fix this? thanks -- Andrew - GnuPG Public KeyID: 0x48109681 *we all live downstream*
Re: potato upgrade, probs with perl-base
On Tue, 28 Dec 1999, Pollywog wrote: I am getting into some kind of loop and I need to remove perl-base (temporarily) but it is an essential package. The other way around this is to activate APT::Force LoopBreak but I don't know what that means and the apt man pages do not tell me what that is. They do, it is in apt.conf Force-LoopBreak Never Enable this option unless you -really- know what you are doing. It permits APT to temporarily remove an essential package to break a Con flicts/Conflicts or Conflicts/Pre-Depend loop between two essential packages. SUCH A LOOP SHOULD NEVER EXIST AND IS A GRAVE BUG. This option will work if the essential packages are not tar, gzip, libc, dpkg, bash or anything that those packages depend on. I think you can enable it in this case, the perl situation is very strange. Jason
Potato upgrade problem
When using: apt-get upgrade on the unstable distribution I get an error running the upgrade. The error is this: Syntax error at sometmpfile line 263: E: sub-process dpkg-preconfig --apt returned an error code (2) E: failure running script dpkg-preconfig --apt I don't seem to be able to do anything about this... I realise that the potato distrib is unstable and that I have to accept the thing being a bit wobbly but this seems to be more than just wobbly packages... it seems to be the apt system itself. Can anyone help please? Nic Ferrier
Re: Small problems from recent Potato upgrade
On Sat, Dec 04, 1999 at 01:50:34AM -0600, John Foster wrote I just upgraded a very stable pure Slink system to Potato and I have a few legacy problems ( I think)! [snip] For some reason Enlightenment is set as the default and the Gnome control panel will not change it. Yes I told it to write to the config files, during installation, but they seem to be in the /home/user directory, as root is OK. It sounds like you have a .xsession or .xinitrc file that starts your window mamanger and then Gnome: I'm not sure that Gnome will kill your window manager if it didn't start it. Try moving them out of the way, like mv .xsession .xsession.slink mv .xinitrc .xinitrc.slink If this doesn't get you a working gnome desktop when you login, try replacing .xsession and/or .xinit with a file containing just #!/bin/sh exec gnome-session and set it executable; that should work. John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh - I - you know - my job is to fear everything. - Bill Gates in Denmark
Small problems from recent Potato upgrade
I just upgraded a very stable pure Slink system to Potato and I have a few legacy problems ( I think)! Emacs is stuck--won't install or be purged-no dependencies unaccounted for. Sound (OSS commercial) is installed but none of the Gnome sound effects work. Players, mixers, etc all OK. For some reason Enlightenment is set as the default and the Gnome control panel will not change it. Yes I told it to write to the config files, during installation, but they seem to be in the /home/user directory, as root is OK. Enlightenment is pretty much improved, but I can not figure out how to keep the menus from jumping off the screen and killing themselves, when I try to open the Menu selections that are longer than the screen is tall.. Everything else seems to be working OK and I am very impressed with the imprivements. I had no probs with Netscape 4.7, Staroffice 5.1a or WP8 though I did expect them. Thanks! -- AdVance-Computing Systems We sell fine quality servers and workstations. We specialize in multiprocessor units. We install Debian Linux at no extra charge! John Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 19460173
Re: questions about slink to potato upgrade
This is a very interesting message. Thanks to both of you. Unfortunately, this is still quite obscure for me, as I am definitely a newbie (forced to upgrade from slink to potato to make my laptop work). How can I install a library (by hand)? Bye Alessandro P.S. non-technical intriguing question: why is potato called 'potato'? On Mon, 29 Nov 1999, Sven Esbjerg wrote: On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 10:24:03PM -0500, Dan Christensen wrote: ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libslang.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libtcpwrapGK.so.1 is not a symlink ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomnithread.so.2 is not a symlink ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniORB2.so.6 is not a symlink ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniLC.so.2 is not a symlink What do they mean? I had somewhat they the same error. I stopped the installation and installed theese libs by hand and then it worked. dhelp_parse: You can add only directories under /usr/doc! warning: error occured during execution of /usr/sbin/dhelp_parse -a at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 241. (For example, it occurred right after the line Installing new version of config file /etc/imlib/imrc ) Will you file the bug? (I got the same error over and over). - The most annoying part was the following error, which stopped the install: install/dpkg-dev: Byte-compiling for emacs20 /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/emacsen-common-install: cd: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/dpkg-dev: No such file or directory emacs-install: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/ emacsen-common-install emacs20 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 28. dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29 Somewhere along from slink to potatto the dir-structure for Emacs got changed but the install-script does noet reflect this. I fixed the problem by moving the missing files/dirs from the old place to the new place. I shure hope this is fixed when potato is released - it's not vere easy to figure these things out if one is a newbee. Still, fewer errors ocurred than I had expected. -- Sven Esbjerg http://www.dina.dk/~joker -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
slink to potato upgrade procedure
I downloaded a week old potato snapshot binary-i386 and binary-all directories what should i do now ? i don't want to upgrade every package manually. Is there any rules how can i use apt-get across my LAN to upgrade distro automatically ? -- +----------------------+ | Denis J. Cirulis [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Phone : +371-50-48023| | Cellular : +371-9131801 | +----------------------+
Potato upgrade
After a long battle with an upgrade to potato from a very customized slink am allmost happy. I just miss one thing: I cannot start gdm due to some wierd problem. It complains about the user and group for /var/gdm. Supposedly they should be nobody:deamon but that doesn't work either. In Slink it was root who owned everything regarding to gdm. Has that changed? Another thing. When I install new packages from dselect I get an error: Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305 Is this a general error (I haven't seen it on any other potato-machines)? -- Sven Esbjerg http://www.dina.dk/~joker
Re: Newbie: slink-to-potato upgrade
On Sat, Nov 27, 1999 at 10:35:52PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote Hello, I recently installed slink on a new SCSI disk for my dual oc 450 MHz Celeron machine. (suse 6.2 is already on an IDE disk). Since I'm new to .deb-based systems I would like to ask a few questions: (I have been running RedHat since 5.0 up to 6.1 and rawhide, mandrake 6.1 and suse 6.2 on different machines, but all of them are rpm-based) I need to upgrade to a kernel supporting dual CPUs and also to XFree86-3.3.5 to get support for my TNT2-based graphics card. 1. What is the name of the kernel package: dpkg --list only gives kernel-headers and kernel-source. If you want a SMP kernel (or if you know what you're doing) it's best to build your own kernel, using the kernel-package package. That will create a .deb containing specifically the kernel you want, with excellent installation scripts that will ensure that everything goes smoothly. The procedure: - Install kernel-source-2.2.13*.deb and unpack the kernel source under /usr/src/linux, or get it from wherever you normally do; - cd /usr/src/linux; make menuconfig; make-kpkg kernel-image - dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image-2.2.13*.deb This doesn't replace your existing kernel if it's a different kernel version, and it maintains a link to your 'immediate past kernel' at /vmlinuz.old so you can leave yourself a 'safe option' by including a stanza in /etc/lilo.conf to boot /vmlinuz.old. To build the kernel on x86 you need the make, gcc (that's 2.7.2, not egcs), binutils and bin86 packages; to do 'make menuconfig' you need libncurses4-dev and libc6-dev, and to do 'make xconfig' you need tk-dev (e.g., tk4.2-dev or tk8.0-dev). And kernel-package, of course. 2. Which command to use for kernel upgrade? If you use kernel-package just install the .deb, answer the questions and reboot. 3. Which tools to use, apt, dselect and/or dpkg? dpkg. 4. Which tool correspond to rpm and yast? Depends what you mean. Dpkg does low level package manipulation on individual .deb files, dselect apt do high-level package manipulation using package repositories and dependency checking. If you want to install .rpm'd software, alien builds .debs on-the-fly (but you have to be a little careful about differences in filesystem layout). 5. I installed the scientific workstation, thereby missing the install of eg. gnome. I want to run Windowmaker/Enlightenment and gnome. What to do? If you have apt installed, you can try something like this: apt-get install wmaker-gnome enlightenment gnome-session control-center which should drag in most of the binaries you need to start. The gnome in 'slink' is pretty old now, and later 'unofficial' package sets are around that give slink a more recent gnome suite; if you migrate to potato, that has more recent copies. Potato and most of the unofficial gnome sets have 'meta-packages' with names like task-gnome-network that simplify package selection by requiring reasonably complete, coherent suites of packages relevant to the role suggested by their name. I suggest that you look over the archives of this mailing list for posts pointing to these, and also to other unofficial and semi-official package repositories. These include package sets for October GNOME, XFree86 3.3.5 and so on. When you look at a package repository you can download and browse through the Packages.gz file that it includes to see what packages are there, what they rely on, and so on. 6. How can I get a comprehensive listing of the packages installed on my computer? dpkg -l | less 7. How can I easily get rid of the unwanted ones? dpkg --purge unwanted-package or dpkg -r unwanted-package (leaves config files behind, useful if you will be re-installing later) or apt-get install unwanted-package- (the trailing '-' says to uninstall it). Both dpkg --purfe, dpkg -r and apt-get install can handle multiple package names on the command line. 8. apt-get upgrade + apt-get dist-upgrade ends with some files not found. The suggested fix was to add --fix-missing. How can I update the missing parts or remove the no longer supported packages. Umm... pass. This may relate to the fact that Potato is being updated continuously, and at any one time the Packages file provided may not quite line up with what's available. Try again may be enough. 9. dselect interface and beginners guide are not informative enough to guide you to an upgrade easily. Agreed, but I think it is assumed that people upgrading already have enough debian experience to do OK. Maintenance of dselect seems to be a real problem; I haven't looked, but I understand that it isn't very clean or clear at the source level, and it is no longer maintained by its original author. While it clearly has its deficiencies, what it does it does well enough that people are reluctant to start tinkering with it. 10. dselect is confusing with its immediate help screen if something
questions about slink to potato upgrade
Last night I upgraded my fairly stock slink machine to potato using
apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. I have various questions.
The last group of questions is about all the errors that occurred.
o Does potato contain all of the Y2K upgrades in slink and a half?
And all current security updates?
o I'm curious why 15 packages were kept back. How do I find out what
caused this? (The packages are: libmime-base64-perl fvwm eperl
libtime-hires-perl libpgperl eterm libcurses-pe rl
libterm-readkey-perl perlmagick mixviews kbd liblockdev0-perl pdl
libcompress- zlib-perl perl-tk.) Are they just old? Should I
remove them?
o I also downloaded, configured, compiled and installed kernel 2.2.13.
I found that I now have trouble accessing my pcmcia modem card.
Sometimes changing the irq with setserial fixes it, but sometimes it
doesn't. I've now turned off various other ports in the BIOS to
free up more irq's, but I still get irregular behaviour. Did
something change that could cause this?
o A lot of errors occurred during the upgrade, and I had to intervene
manually several times. Do these things represent bugs in apt,
dpkg, or some package control files? Here are a few examples:
- Throughout the upgrade I got the following messages:
ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libslang.so (No such file
or directory), skipping
ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libtcpwrapGK.so.1 is not a symlink
ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomnithread.so.2 is not a symlink
ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniORB2.so.6 is not a symlink
ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniLC.so.2 is not a symlink
What do they mean?
- Throughout the upgrade I got the following message:
Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at
/usr/lib/perl5/5.004/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305
What does it mean?
- I also got this a lot:
dhelp_parse: You can add only directories under /usr/doc!
warning: error occured during execution of /usr/sbin/dhelp_parse
-a at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 241.
(For example, it occurred right after the line
Installing new version of config file /etc/imlib/imrc )
- The most annoying part was the following error, which stopped the
install:
install/dpkg-dev: Byte-compiling for emacs20
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/emacsen-common-install:
cd: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/dpkg-dev: No such file or directory
emacs-install: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/
emacsen-common-install emacs20 failed at
/usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 28.
dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29
In the end, the only way I could find to get around this was to
uninstall dpkg-dev and the things that depend on it, configure
emacs, and then reinstall those packages. What went wrong above?
- When emacs 20.3 was replaced with 20.4, some stuff got left behind
in /usr/share/emacs/20.3/etc/bbdb/*, .../20.3/site-lisp/debview,
.../20.3/site-lisp/psgml and .../20.3/site-lisp/python-elisp.
I just manually erased it all, but shouldn't it have been removed
automatically?
- Some of the startup files in /etc/{emacs,emacs20}/site-start.d/
have not been byte-compiled. Is this correct behavior? Also,
some of the byte-compiled files are older than their sources.
Are these old byte-compiled files, or were they simply installed
with old dates?
- Is there a reason that the psgml package contains the empty
directory /etc/emacs19/site-start.d? (dpkg -S emacs19 produces
psgml: /etc/emacs19
psgml: /etc/emacs19/site-start.d )
I don't have emacs19 installed.
- When the upgrade got to mgetty it produced:
Preparing to replace mgetty 1.1.18-1 (using
.../archives/mgetty_1.1.21-2.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement mgetty ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mgetty_1.1.21-2.deb
(--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/etc/mgetty/new_fax', which is also in package
mgetty-fax
Preparing to replace mgetty-fax 1.1.18-1 (using
.../mgetty-fax_1.1.21-2.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement mgetty-fax ...
and then the install stopped shortly thereafter. I typed apt-get
dist-upgrade and the installed continued without a problem.
- When the upgrade got to r-base it produced:
Preparing to replace r-base 0.62.4-2 (using
.../archives/r-base_0.90.0-0.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement r-base ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/r-base_0.90.0-0.deb
(--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/R/library/splines/R/splines', which is
also in package r-cran
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
The only way this would go away is if I remove r-cran and r-base.
If these errors aren't due to mistakes on my part, then
bad alternatives symlinks after potato upgrade
I just upgraded my mostly stock slink machine to potato with apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. Now I have both /usr/man and /usr/share/man on my system, and neither is a symlink to the other. A quick glance showed no files in common between the two directories, and they both contain around 7.5M. man foo works for foo's in either directory. But the alternatives system is messed up, with symlinks pointing to the wrong place. An example is /etc/alternatives/editor.1.gz, which points to /usr/man/man1/elvis.1.gz, which does not exist. However, /usr/share/man/man1/elvis.1.gz does exist. What happened? Would manually changing all the bad symlinks in /etc/alternatives to point to the right place be the correct fix? Is there an automatic way to do this? Thanks for any suggestions. Dan -- Dan Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bad alternatives symlinks after potato upgrade
On 28/11/99 Dan Christensen wrote: I just upgraded my mostly stock slink machine to potato with apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. Now I have both /usr/man and /usr/share/man on my system, and neither is a symlink to the other. A quick glance showed no files in common between the two directories, and they both contain around 7.5M. man foo works for foo's in either directory. But the alternatives system is messed up, with symlinks pointing to the wrong place. you getting caught in the transition to FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard) that defines that /usr/doc be moved to /usr/share/doc and /usr/man be moved to /usr/share/man it sounds like you found a package or two with bugs not handling this transition properly, file a bug report. An example is /etc/alternatives/editor.1.gz, which points to /usr/man/man1/elvis.1.gz, which does not exist. However, /usr/share/man/man1/elvis.1.gz does exist. What happened? Would manually changing all the bad symlinks in /etc/alternatives to point to the right place be the correct fix? Is there an automatic way to do this? I am not aware of a automatic way to fix this but i could be wrong (I have not totally figured out this alternatives thing) it sounds like a bug in the package not fixing these symlinks. Thanks for any suggestions. Ethan Benson To obtain my PGP key: http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/pgp/
Re: bad alternatives symlinks after potato upgrade
The command 'update-alternatives' may help you sort out the mess. It may be somewhat tedious to do though. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: questions about slink to potato upgrade
Dan Christensen wrote: o Does potato contain all of the Y2K upgrades in slink and a half? And all current security updates? Yes. - Throughout the upgrade I got the following message: Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at /usr/lib/perl5/5.004/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305 What does it mean? It's a harmless message produced by a bug in perl. You can install libterm-readline-gnu-perl to make it go away. I suggest you file bugs about most of the other problems. -- see shy jo
Re: questions about slink to potato upgrade
On Sun, Nov 28, 1999 at 10:24:03PM -0500, Dan Christensen wrote: ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libslang.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libtcpwrapGK.so.1 is not a symlink ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomnithread.so.2 is not a symlink ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniORB2.so.6 is not a symlink ldconfig: warning: /usr/lib/libomniLC.so.2 is not a symlink What do they mean? I had somewhat they the same error. I stopped the installation and installed theese libs by hand and then it worked. dhelp_parse: You can add only directories under /usr/doc! warning: error occured during execution of /usr/sbin/dhelp_parse -a at /usr/sbin/install-docs line 241. (For example, it occurred right after the line Installing new version of config file /etc/imlib/imrc ) Will you file the bug? (I got the same error over and over). - The most annoying part was the following error, which stopped the install: install/dpkg-dev: Byte-compiling for emacs20 /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/emacsen-common-install: cd: /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/dpkg-dev: No such file or directory emacs-install: /usr/lib/emacsen-common/packages/install/ emacsen-common-install emacs20 failed at /usr/lib/emacsen-common/emacs-install line 28. dpkg: error processing emacs20 (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 29 Somewhere along from slink to potatto the dir-structure for Emacs got changed but the install-script does noet reflect this. I fixed the problem by moving the missing files/dirs from the old place to the new place. I shure hope this is fixed when potato is released - it's not vere easy to figure these things out if one is a newbee. Still, fewer errors ocurred than I had expected. -- Sven Esbjerg http://www.dina.dk/~joker
Re: Potato upgrade [PERL]
After a long battle with an upgrade to potato from a very customized slink am allmost happy. I just miss one thing: I cannot start gdm due to some wierd problem. It complains about the user and group for /var/gdm. Supposedly they should be nobody:deamon but that doesn't work either. In Slink it was root who owned everything regarding to gdm. Has that changed? Another thing. When I install new packages from dselect I get an error: Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305 Is this a general error (I haven't seen it on any other potato-machines)? I recently had a similar problem with xdm after trying to install perl5005. The problem was that perl5005 conflicts with perl_5004, and the former couldn't be installed thereof, and the later couldn't be removed due to many packages depending on it. I wrote to the list and got no answer, and wrote to the perl maintainer but no answer either. Finally, I removed all packages depending on perl_5004, etc, installed perl5005, and reinstalled (well, upgrades) all previously uninstalled packages. Now, the /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/... message at boot up is gone, and xdm is up and working again. Just FYI, I send you a `dpkg -l' with all my perl related installation: ii perl-5.005 5.005.03-4 Larry Wall's Practical Extracting and ii perl-5.005-base 5.005.03-4 The Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish ii perl-5.005-debu 5.005.03-4 View internals of Perl and debug Perl ii perl-5.005-doc 5.005.03-4 Man pages and pod docs for Perl ii perl-5.005-suid 5.005.03-4 Runs setuid Perl scripts. ii perl-base 5.004.05-1 Fake package assuring that one of the ii perl-tk 800.015-1 Perl module providing the Tk graphics ii perlmagick 4.28-4 A perl interface to the libMagick ii perlsgml97.09.18-3 tools to build and analyze SGML Check out dependencies and requirements, uninstall all packages which depend on old perl (write down which ones and get the newer ones from potato), uninstall old perl, and install everything new. HTH p.s. btw, there was a fairly small perl... hold on... ok... I also had to install the following: perl-base_5.004.05-1.deb Package: perl-base Version: 5.004.05-1 Architecture: all Essential: yes Depends: perl5-base Installed-Size: 7 Maintainer: Darren Stalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Description: Fake package assuring that one of the -base package is installed This package depends on perl5-base that is provided by the various perl-...-base package. It's essential. ^^ Good luck! -- Horacio Anno MMDCCLII ad Urbe condita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valencia - ESPAÑA Key fingerprint = F4EE AE5E 2F01 0DB3 62F2 A9F4 AD31 7093 4233 7AE6
Re: questions about slink to potato upgrade
Graham Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I went that path also (dist-upgrade to get potato) and had some of the same problems. The most serious for me was that my pcmcia modem card stopped working somewhere along the way. I also have had this problem. One thing that makes my modem work again is to type: setserial /dev/ttyS1 irq 0 (You will need to replace the device with the correct one for your modem.) irq 0 means to not use interrupts, and instead use a slower polling method. So this isn't a long term fix. My modem does sometimes work with real irq's, but usually does not. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Dan
Re: Potato upgrade
Sven Esbjerg wrote: Another thing. When I install new packages from dselect I get an error: Cannot find termcap: Can't find a valid termcap file at /usr/lib/perl5/5.005/Term/ReadLine.pm line 305 Is this a general error (I haven't seen it on any other potato-machines)? It happens to me too; the machine is i386/potato. But installing packages is just fine. Oki
Newbie: slink-to-potato upgrade
Hello, I recently installed slink on a new SCSI disk for my dual oc 450 MHz Celeron machine. (suse 6.2 is already on an IDE disk). Since I'm new to .deb-based systems I would like to ask a few questions: (I have been running RedHat since 5.0 up to 6.1 and rawhide, mandrake 6.1 and suse 6.2 on different machines, but all of them are rpm-based) I need to upgrade to a kernel supporting dual CPUs and also to XFree86-3.3.5 to get support for my TNT2-based graphics card. 1. What is the name of the kernel package: dpkg --list only gives kernel-headers and kernel-source. 2. Which command to use for kernel upgrade? 3. Which tools to use, apt, dselect and/or dpkg? 4. Which tool correspond to rpm and yast? 5. I installed the scientific workstation, thereby missing the install of eg. gnome. I want to run Windowmaker/Enlightenment and gnome. What to do? 6. How can I get a comprehensive listing of the packages installed on my computer? 7. How can I easily get rid of the unwanted ones? 8. apt-get upgrade + apt-get dist-upgrade ends with some files not found. The suggested fix was to add --fix-missing. How can I update the missing parts or remove the no longer supported packages. 9. dselect interface and beginners guide are not informative enough to guide you to an upgrade easily. 10. dselect is confusing with its immediate help screen if something is not OK. (The reason for all this effort is the delay of the 2.2 release. I will gladly purchase potato when it arrives, but I feel a need to start learning debian-based distributions as well. I have the corel distribution newly burnt but not installed it yet.) Hoping to be as fluent in .deb as in .rpm Svante Signell
lpd problem after hamm-potato upgrade
Hello! After finally upgrading to hamm-potato, one small problem remains unsolved (the rest I managed to kill :). While printing works fine when I do 'cat file /dev/printer', lpd seems to think the printer is offline (lpc claims the daemon is waiting for the printer). What could be the cause of such a problem? Thanks! -- / Peter Schuller PGP userID: 0x5584BD98 or 'Peter Schuller scode@scode.webprovider.com' Key retrival: Send an E-Mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] E-Mail: scode@scode.webprovider.com Web: http://www.scode.webprovider.com
Potato upgrade and Network
Hi: I recently upgraded over the network to potato from slink and then installed linux 2.2.13. I was having the following problem. It would come up with endless messages about 140.228.8.157 sent an invalild ICMP error to a broadcast. Also ypbind would not work when it booted up, but afterward I would type ypbind on the command line and it would be OK. I could use ftp, ping to any machine etc; so clearly the routing was OK. I had got rid of route add -net etc. from /etc/init.d/network. In an attempt to get rid of the messages, I thought the broadcast address was wrong and I changed it from 255.255.248.0 to 255.255.255.0 which is what the HOWTO's always give. When I booted up it would say Starting NIS servives: ypbind and hang indefinitely. I thought I would get the rescue disk from ftp.debian.org ( it is for 2.2.12 ) and when I used it ( using root=dev/hda4 ) it wouldn't go further. How do I get over this problem? Thanks for any suggestions. Sebastian Canagaratna
Re: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, upgrading to potato is mostly all or nothing. Lots of changes have occured. This is absolutely not true. I've been upgrading incrementally, taking very small steps, for what seems like forever (due mostly to my slow and expensive net connection)... There are a few `often-needed' packages like glibc 2.1, but upgrading that was easy and uneventful. Except for the `menu updating consumes all memory' problem of a while back, I've never really had any problems doing things this way. -Miles -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
*- On 10 Nov, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote about RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade? On 10-Nov-99 David J. Kanter wrote: I'm in the process of going from Slink to Potato, but I've got a modem. I'm not going to download all the updated packages, but what should I get to get a relatively solid Potato build? Unfortunately, upgrading to potato is mostly all or nothing. Lots of changes have occured. I just did this last weekend. You can use the -d option to apt-get so that it will not start installing until you are done grabbing all the necessary files. Yes it is slow but the fact that Debian can upgrade in place over a modem is reason enough to do it! -- Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Re: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 11:29:54PM -0600, David J. Kanter wrote: I'm in the process of going from Slink to Potato, but I've got a modem. I'm not going to download all the updated packages, but what should I get to get a relatively solid Potato build? Download all of the base packages for sure, and consider downloading all of the standard packages, for a start. Art
RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Brian Servis wrote: *- On 10 Nov, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote about RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade? On 10-Nov-99 David J. Kanter wrote: I'm in the process of going from Slink to Potato, but I've got a modem. I'm not going to download all the updated packages, but what should I get to get a relatively solid Potato build? Unfortunately, upgrading to potato is mostly all or nothing. Lots of changes have occured. I just did this last weekend. You can use the -d option to apt-get so that it will not start installing until you are done grabbing all the necessary files. Yes it is slow but the fact that Debian can upgrade in place over a modem is reason enough to do it! I tried to do this last weekend also. I used the apt method of dselect over a V.90 modem and a day and half later I had potato mostly installed. I agree that the multiple ways of upgrading/maintaining a Debian distribution are really cool -- I've been using a modem at home since 1.2. I ran into some dependency problems with the 'netstd' and 'rdist' packages. netstd depends upon the rdist package, which seems not to exist. The comment on netstd indicates it is a legacy package that should be removed, but I couldn't do that as there are other packages (e.g. diald -- that I depend on) that depend upon netstd. I tried every permutation that I could think of to get past configuring netstd (without rdist) but I couldn't figure out a way to do it. I realize potato is unstable -- I'm not complaining here at all. Any hints as to how to get past this problem? Thanks...
RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
*- On 11 Nov, Stephen A. Witt wrote about RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade? On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Brian Servis wrote: *- On 10 Nov, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote about RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade? On 10-Nov-99 David J. Kanter wrote: I'm in the process of going from Slink to Potato, but I've got a modem. I'm not going to download all the updated packages, but what should I get to get a relatively solid Potato build? Unfortunately, upgrading to potato is mostly all or nothing. Lots of changes have occured. I just did this last weekend. You can use the -d option to apt-get so that it will not start installing until you are done grabbing all the necessary files. Yes it is slow but the fact that Debian can upgrade in place over a modem is reason enough to do it! I tried to do this last weekend also. I used the apt method of dselect over a V.90 modem and a day and half later I had potato mostly installed. I agree that the multiple ways of upgrading/maintaining a Debian distribution are really cool -- I've been using a modem at home since 1.2. 0.93r6 here, =). Back then it was 14.4 modems. But the distribution was *a lot smaller* too. I ran into some dependency problems with the 'netstd' and 'rdist' packages. netstd depends upon the rdist package, which seems not to exist. The comment on netstd indicates it is a legacy package that should be removed, but I couldn't do that as there are other packages (e.g. diald -- that I depend on) that depend upon netstd. I tried every permutation that I could think of to get past configuring netstd (without rdist) but I couldn't figure out a way to do it. I realize potato is unstable -- I'm not complaining here at all. Any hints as to how to get past this problem? Unfortunately, you have to wait for the diald maintainer or some other maintainer to fix the dependency issue, which has a bug filed(#49324) against it. The problem is that netstd then sucks in other packages that you probably don't want. Just keep track of them and remove them when the depenency issue has been fixed. -- Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
I'm in the process of going from Slink to Potato, but I've got a modem. I'm not going to download all the updated packages, but what should I get to get a relatively solid Potato build? Thanks. -- David J. Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Humans have an innate tendency to attribute significance to anomalies and coincidences. -- John Allen Paulos, mathematics professor at Temple University
Re: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, David J. Kanter wrote: djkant I'm in the process of going from Slink to Potato, but I've got a modem. I'm djkant not going to download all the updated packages, but what should I get to get djkant a relatively solid Potato build? Wait till its final, and get a CD ;) nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 8:29am up 82 days, 19:59, 1 user, load average: 1.56, 1.51, 1.57
RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
On 10-Nov-99 David J. Kanter wrote: I'm in the process of going from Slink to Potato, but I've got a modem. I'm not going to download all the updated packages, but what should I get to get a relatively solid Potato build? Unfortunately, upgrading to potato is mostly all or nothing. Lots of changes have occured.
HELP!! Re: HELP!: problems after POTATO upgrade
El dom, 24 de oct de 1999, a las 07:28:49 -0400, Greg Wooledge dijo: J Horacio MG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libcrypt.so (No such file or directory), skipping [...] You've updated the base shared libraries but not the development packages. Update libc6-dev, libncurses4-dev, etc. Please, help me up with this as I'm starting to have a hard time with potato upgrade, and I think things are starting to malfunction due to that fact. I updated libncurses4, libncurses4-dev, libreadlineg2_2.1-13.6 (bash_2.02.1-1.8) as well now, but I'm having trouble since libc6-dev conflicts with libstdc++2.9-dev: h0rus:/tmp# dpkg -i libc6-dev_2.1.2-5.deb dpkg: regarding libc6-dev_2.1.2-5.deb containing libc6-dev: libc6-dev conflicts with libstdc++2.9-dev libstdc++2.9-dev (version 2.91.60-5) is installed. dpkg: error processing libc6-dev_2.1.2-5.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing libc6-dev Errors were encountered while processing: libc6-dev_2.1.2-5.deb Fine, so I try to deinstall libstdc++2.9-dev but: h0rus:/tmp# dpkg --purge libstdc++2.9-dev dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libstdc++2.9-dev: g++ depends on libstdc++2.9-dev (= 2.91.60). dpkg: error processing libstdc++2.9-dev (--purge): dependency problems - not removing Errors were encountered while processing: libstdc++2.9-dev Surely I cannot afford to deinstall g++, as I wouldn't be able to compile any c++ program. What's the way to go with this? Also, if I ever get to install libc6-dev (fingers crossed), will I have to reinstall all those libraries which returned all the : ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libcrypt.so (No such file or directory), skipping errors? I say this since `dpkg -l' lists all of them as fully installed (I attach a `dpkg -l' log). -- Horacio Anno MMDCCLII ad Urbe condita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valencia - ESPAÑA Key fingerprint = F4EE AE5E 2F01 0DB3 62F2 A9F4 AD31 7093 4233 7AE6 Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==- ii a2ps4.10.4-4 GNU a2ps 'Anything to PostScript' converter ii aalib1 1.2-20 ascii art library ii abacus 0.9.13-3 an X11-based Spreadsheet ii acct6.3.5-4The GNU Accounting utilities. ii acroread3.02-0.1 Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Form ii addressbook 0.7-10 address manager usable with or without X11 ii adduser 3.8Add users and groups to the system. ii ae 962-21.1 Anthony's Editor -- a tiny full-screen edito ii alien 6.18 Install Red Hat, Stampede, and Slackware Pac ii apache 1.3.3-7Versatile, high-performance HTTP server ii apache-common 1.3.3-7Support files for all Apache webservers ii apmd3.0beta5-1 Utilities for Advanced Power Management (APM ii apt 0.3.13 Advanced front-end for dpkg ii asclock 1.0R10-1 A clock designed with the NeXTStep look ii at 3.1.8-4Delayed job execution and batch processing ii base-files 2.1.0 Debian Base System Miscellaneous Files ii base-passwd 2.0.3.3Debian Base System Password/Group Files ii bash2.02.1-1.8 The GNU Bourne Again SHell ii bc 1.05a-3An arbitrary precision calculator language. ii bibtool 2.43-7 A tool for manipulating BibTeX data bases. ii bin86 0.14.3-1 16-bit assembler and loader ii bind8.1.2-5An Internet domain name server ii bind-doc8.1.2-2Domain name server documentation ii binstats1.00-3 Statistics tool for installed programs ii binutils2.9.1.0.19a-2 The GNU assembler, linker and binary utiliti ii bison 1.25-13A parser generator that is compatible with Y ii boot-floppies 2.1.8 Scripts to create the Debian installation fl ii bsdmainutils4.4.0.1More utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite. ii bsdutils4.4.1.1Basic utilities from 4.4BSD-Lite. ii bzip2 0.9.0c-2 A high-quality block-sorting file compressor ii catdoc 0.90r-0.2 MS-Word to TeX or plain text converter ii checker 0.8-21 Memory access debugger for C language develo ii cpio2.4.2-23 GNU cpio -- a program to manage archives of ii cpp 2.7.2.3-7 The GNU C preprocessor. ii
Re: HELP!! Re: HELP!: problems after POTATO upgrade
On Tue, 26 Oct 1999, J Horacio MG wrote: I updated libncurses4, libncurses4-dev, libreadlineg2_2.1-13.6 (bash_2.02.1-1.8) as well now, but I'm having trouble since libc6-dev conflicts with libstdc++2.9-dev: [...] Fine, so I try to deinstall libstdc++2.9-dev but: h0rus:/tmp# dpkg --purge libstdc++2.9-dev dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libstdc++2.9-dev: g++ depends on libstdc++2.9-dev (= 2.91.60). ^^ ^^ [...] install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 (2.91.66-1) install libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1-dev (2.91.66-1) install libc6-dev remove the old libstdc++2.9-dev enjoy Also, if I ever get to install libc6-dev (fingers crossed), will I have to reinstall all those libraries which returned all the : ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libcrypt.so (No such file or directory), skipping errors? I say this since `dpkg -l' lists all of them as fully installed (I attach a `dpkg -l' log). These errors might be caused by orphaned symlinks. Check if /usr/lib/libcrypt.so actually points to an existing library. If not if you don't have libcrypt installed, remove to link. -- Space for hire. Contact Philip Lehman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP!: problems after potato upgrade
J Horacio MG ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libcrypt.so (No such file or directory), skipping [...] You've updated the base shared libraries but not the development packages. Update libc6-dev, libncurses4-dev, etc. -- Greg Wooledge| Truth belongs to everybody. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Red Hot Chili Peppers, http://www.kellnet.com/wooledge/ | pgpK2aelEEQZK.pgp Description: PGP signature
HELP!: problems after potato upgrade
Hi, Please, bear with me for a while as it seems I'm in trouble. I recently upgraded the following from potato: apt_0.3.13.deb libstdc++2.10_2.95.2-0pre2.deb gconv-modules_2.1.2-5.deblibstdc++2.9_2.91.61-1.deb glibc-doc_2.1.2-5.deblocales_2.1.2-5.deb ldso_1.9.11-4.debqt1g_1.44-6.1.deb libc6_2.1.2-5.debxlib6g_3.3.5-1.deb libglib1.2_1.2.5-1.deb Now I've upgraded the following for installing Gimp1.1.0 and some utilities and support for gifs: aalib1_1.2-20.deb libgimp1.1.10_1.1.10-1.deb freefont_0.10-8.deb libgtk1.2_1.2.6-1.deb giflib-bin_3.0-5.2.deblibjpeg62_6b-1.2.deb giflib3g_3.0-5.2.deb libpng2_1.0.3-1.deb giftrans_1.12.2-4.deb libtiff3g_3.4beta037-8.deb gimp-data-extras_1.0.0-1.deb sharefont_0.10-7.deb gimp1.1-nonfree_1.1.10-1.deb zlib1g_1.1.3-4.deb gimp1.1_1.1.10-1.deb Now, two problems. 1. For every library I install, I get the following output: h0rus:/tmp# dpkg -i libgtk1.2_1.2.6-1.deb Selecting previously deselected package libgtk1.2. (Reading database ... 50171 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libgtk1.2 (from libgtk1.2_1.2.6-1.deb) ... Setting up libgtk1.2 (1.2.6-1) ... ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libBrokenLocale.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libcrypt.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libdb.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libdl.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libm.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libndbm.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libnsl.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libnss_compat.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libnss_db.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libnss_dns.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libnss_files.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libnss_nis.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libpthread.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libresolv.so (No such file or directory), skipping ldconfig: warning: can't open /usr/lib/libutil.so (No such file or directory), skipping These files DO exist as symlinks in /usr/lib ... for instance, /usr/lib/libutil.so is a symlink to /lib/libutil-2.0.7.so ... which does not exist (/lib/libutil-2.1.2.so does though) and the libraries DO install (dpkg -l) ii libgtk-imlib-pe 0.3-3 Perl module for the gtk+ and gdkimlib librar ii libgtk1 1.0.6-2The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X ii libgtk1.1 1.1.2-2The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X, unsta ii libgtk1.1-dev 1.1.2-2Development files for the GIMP Toolkit, unst ii libgtk1.1-doc 1.1.2-2Documentation for the GIMP Toolkit, unstable ii libgtk1.2 1.2.6-1The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X ii libgtkxmhtml0 0.30.1-5 The Gnome gtkxmhtml (HTML) widget 2. giflib3g conflicts with libungif3g, so I tried to deinstall (dpkg --purge libungif3g) the latest, but as it's needed for Gnome, it stays as (dpkg -l): Ops! now libungif is no longer here, but after running `dpkg --purge', `dpkg -l' showed it as `pi'. Are there any problems that might arise from this? I really need to know what the problems are, and how can I solve them. Thank You in Advance, -- Horacio Anno MMDCCLII ad Urbe condita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valencia - ESPAÑA Key fingerprint = F4EE AE5E 2F01 0DB3 62F2 A9F4 AD31 7093 4233 7AE6
Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...
In the dselect list I see passwd19990827-7 shadowI do not see a package called shadow. I am getting my debian from ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free There is not a package called pam-apps on the list. Do you think the segmentation faults I get with passwd, su, and login is caused by pam or is a problem with the version of the commands? Doug Ben Collins wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 03:18:49PM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: Ben, I didn't even see pam-apps on the list in dselect. Then what version of passwd and shadow do you have _installed_? Ben
Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...
Ben, Out of despration, I tried the lines below instead of the ones you gave me. Lines you had me use: auth required pam_unix_auth.so account required pam_unix_acct.so password required pam_unix_passwd.so session required pam_unix_session.so Lines taken from the other.dpkg-dist auth required pam_unix.so account required pam_unix.so password required pam_unix.so session required pam_unix.so I can now login under a virtual terminal so I am going to try rebooting to see if that clears the xserver. What does the difference between what you gave me and what seems to work? Am I missing some files? Doug
Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...
On Sun, Oct 24, 1999 at 08:30:23AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: Ben, Out of despration, I tried the lines below instead of the ones you gave me. Lines you had me use: auth required pam_unix_auth.so account required pam_unix_acct.so password required pam_unix_passwd.so session required pam_unix_session.so Lines taken from the other.dpkg-dist auth required pam_unix.so account required pam_unix.so password required pam_unix.so session required pam_unix.so I can now login under a virtual terminal so I am going to try rebooting to see if that clears the xserver. What does the difference between what you gave me and what seems to work? Am I missing some files? I suggest reinstalling the libpam* packages. The pam_unix_*.so modules are only symlinks to pam_unix.so in the latest PAM packages. If that's not the case on your system, then you had a bad upgrade (and most likely you should reinstall _all_ of the PAM packages, not just the modules). Ben
Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...
Hello Help! I have a potato system that was running fine until a few minutes ago... I used dselect to select a package and it wanted to upgrade a bunch on stuff. I let it because I was interested to see how long it would take with my new DSL connection. After the upgrade I have seen these problems: (It upgraded about 50M of packages). 1. I can not login to a virtual terminal. When I try I do not even get prompted for a password. I looked in my /etc/passwd file and all of the password fields are now :x: except for a user called 'admin'. 2. I tried to set a password of an account and I get a segmentation fault when I try to run passwd. 3. My x-server CTRL-ALT + F7 now has the following error message instead of a graphical login screen. su[4340] PAM (other) illegal module type: OTHER What is going on? Please help me recover my system. I currently have a single login as root where I was running dselect. I am afraid to log off because I don't want to be locked out permanently. Thanks in advance, Doug
Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 12:19:48AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: Hello Help! I have a potato system that was running fine until a few minutes ago... After the upgrade I have seen these problems: (It upgraded about 50M of packages). 1. I can not login to a virtual terminal. When I try I do not even get prompted for a password. I looked in my /etc/passwd file and all of the password fields are now :x: except for a user called 'admin'. The x indicates shadow passwords (you can't read 'em so don't try). I've seen this admin user mentioned a few times, but I don't have it...?? 2. I tried to set a password of an account and I get a segmentation fault when I try to run passwd. 3. My x-server CTRL-ALT + F7 now has the following error message instead of a graphical login screen. su[4340] PAM (other) illegal module type: OTHER Apparently there's a PAM issue What is going on? Please help me recover my system. I currently have a single login as root where I was running dselect. I am afraid to log off because I don't want to be locked out permanently. Perhaps, for safety (until you can fix this problem) remove root's password from /etc/passwd. I'm assuming no one else is using, having access to this account? Sorry, can't help ya more, but maybe you can list all of the pam related packages you have: $ dpkg -S pam may give an idea. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++
Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 12:19:48AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: What is going on? Please help me recover my system. I currently have a single login as root where I was running dselect. I am afraid to log off because I don't want to be locked out permanently. Can you attach all of the files in /etc/pam.d/ aswell as your /etc/login.defs please? Looks to be a conffile problem, but I'm not sure what yet. Ben
Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...
Ok Ben, here they are. One other thing to note: During the install I had a message with modutils stating that The form: Patch[fs]=/lib/modules/2.2.10 was replaced with the form: Patch[fs]=/lib/modules/2.2.10/fs I could not find where to change thi. I did find a file called conf.modules.old that had command lines like those described above. Could this be causing a problem with pam? Doug Ben Collins wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 12:19:48AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: What is going on? Please help me recover my system. I currently have a single login as root where I was running dselect. I am afraid to log off because I don't want to be locked out permanently. Can you attach all of the files in /etc/pam.d/ aswell as your /etc/login.defs please? Looks to be a conffile problem, but I'm not sure what yet. Ben -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null # # The PAM configuration file for the Shadow `su' service # # Uncomment this to force users to be a member of group root # before than can use `su' # (Replaces the `SU_WHEEL_ONLY' option from login.defs) # auth required pam_wheel.so # This allows root to su without passwords (normal operation) auth sufficient pam_rootok.so # Uncomment and edit /etc/security/time.conf if you need to set # time restrainst on su usage. # (Replaces the `PORTTIME_CHECKS_ENAB' option from login.defs # as well as /etc/porttime) # accountrequisite pam_time.so # The standard Unix authentication modules, used with # NIS (man nsswitch) as well as normal /etc/passwd and # /etc/shadow entries. auth required pam_unix.so accountrequired pam_unix.so sessionrequired pam_unix.so # Sets up user limits, please uncomment and read /etc/security/limits.conf # to enable this functionality. # (Replaces the use of /etc/limits in old login) # sessionrequired pam_limits.so # # The PAM configuration file for the Shadow `chsh' service # # This will not allow a user to change their shell unless # their current one is listed in /etc/shells. This keeps # accounts with special shells from changing them. auth required pam_shells.so # The standard Unix authentication modules, used with # NIS (man nsswitch) as well as normal /etc/passwd and # /etc/shadow entries. auth required pam_unix.so nullok accountrequired pam_unix.so sessionrequired pam_unix.so #%PAM-1.0 auth sufficient pam_rootok.so auth required pam_console.so accountrequired pam_permit.so # # The PAM configuration file for the Shadow `login' service # # NOTE: If you use a session module (such as kerberos or NIS+) # that retains persistent credentials (like key caches, etc), you # need to enable the `CLOSE_SESSIONS' option in /etc/login.defs # in order for login to stay around until after logout to call # pam_close_session() and cleanup. # # Outputs an issue file prior to each login prompt (Replaces the # ISSUE_FILE option from login.defs). Uncomment for use # auth required pam_issue.so issue=/etc/issue # Disallows root logins except on tty's listed in /etc/securetty # (Replaces the `CONSOLE' setting from login.defs) auth requisite pam_securetty.so # Disallows other than root logins when /etc/nologin exists # (Replaces the `NOLOGINS_FILE' option from login.defs) auth required pam_nologin.so # This module parses /etc/environment (the standard for setting # environ vars) and also allows you to use an extended config # file /etc/security/pam_env.conf. # (Replaces the `ENVIRON_FILE' setting from login.defs) auth required pam_env.so # Standard Un*x authentication. The nullok line allows passwordless # accounts. auth required pam_unix.so nullok # This allows certain extra groups to be granted to a user # based on things like time of day, tty, service, and user. # Please uncomment and edit /etc/security/group.conf if you # wish to use this. # (Replaces the `CONSOLE_GROUPS' option in login.defs) # auth optional pam_group.so # Uncomment and edit /etc/security/time.conf if you need to set # time restrainst on logins. # (Replaces the `PORTTIME_CHECKS_ENAB' option from login.defs # as well as /etc/porttime) # accountrequisite pam_time.so # Uncomment and edit /etc/security/access.conf if you need to # set access limits. # (Replaces /etc/login.access file) # account required pam_access.so # Standard Un*x account and session accountrequired pam_unix.so sessionrequired pam_unix.so # Sets up user limits, please uncomment and read /etc/security/limits.conf # to enable this functionality. # (Replaces the use of /etc/limits in old login) # sessionrequired pam_limits.so # Prints the last login info upon succesful login # (Replaces the `LASTLOG_ENAB' option from login.defs) sessionoptional pam_lastlog.so # Prints the motd upon succesful login # (Replaces the `MOTD_FILE' option in login.defs) sessionoptional
Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...
Thanks for the reply Eric, I have attacked the output from /etc/dpkg -S pam Eric G . Miller wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 12:19:48AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: Hello Help! I have a potato system that was running fine until a few minutes ago... After the upgrade I have seen these problems: (It upgraded about 50M of packages). 1. I can not login to a virtual terminal. When I try I do not even get prompted for a password. I looked in my /etc/passwd file and all of the password fields are now :x: except for a user called 'admin'. The x indicates shadow passwords (you can't read 'em so don't try). I've seen this admin user mentioned a few times, but I don't have it...?? 2. I tried to set a password of an account and I get a segmentation fault when I try to run passwd. 3. My x-server CTRL-ALT + F7 now has the following error message instead of a graphical login screen. su[4340] PAM (other) illegal module type: OTHER Apparently there's a PAM issue What is going on? Please help me recover my system. I currently have a single login as root where I was running dselect. I am afraid to log off because I don't want to be locked out permanently. Perhaps, for safety (until you can fix this problem) remove root's password from /etc/passwd. I'm assuming no one else is using, having access to this account? Sorry, can't help ya more, but maybe you can list all of the pam related packages you have: $ dpkg -S pam may give an idea. -- ++ | Eric G. Milleregm2@jps.net | | GnuPG public key: http://www.jps.net/egm2/gpg.asc | ++ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_ftp.so debhelper: /usr/share/man/man1/dh_installpam.1.gz passwd: /usr/share/doc/passwd/README.pam.gz libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules login: /usr/share/doc/login/README.pam.gz imagemagick: /usr/doc/imagemagick/examples/spam.gif libpam-runtime: /usr/share/man/man8/pam.8.gz libpam0g: /lib/libpamc.so.0 libpam0g: /usr/share/doc/libpam0g libpam0g: /lib/libpamc.so.0.70 util-linux: /etc/pam.d/kbdrate libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_wheel.so postgresql-dev: /usr/include/postgresql/access/heapam.h libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules/examples/upperLOWER libpam0g: /usr/share/doc/libpam0g/README.gz libpam-runtime: /usr/share/man/man7/pam-undocumented.7.gz libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules/changelog.gz libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_mkhomedir.so libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules/changelog.Debian.gz libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_rootok.so libpam-modules: /etc/security/pam_env.conf libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_unix.so libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_access.so login: /etc/pam.d/login libpam0g: /usr/share/doc/libpam0g/TODO libpam0g: /lib/libpam_misc.so.0.70 libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_filter.so libpam0g: /usr/share/doc/libpam0g/TODO.Debian libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_tally.so libpam0g: /lib/libpam.so.0 libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_time.so libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_unix_passwd.so libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_group.so libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules/examples libpam-runtime: /usr/share/doc/libpam-runtime/changelog.gz libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_limits.so libpam-runtime: /etc/pam.d/other libpam-runtime: /usr/share/doc/libpam-runtime/changelog.Debian.gz libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_warn.so libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_rhosts_auth.so libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_motd.so libpam0g: /usr/share/doc/libpam0g/changelog.Debian.gz libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_issue.so libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules/examples/upperLOWER/.cvsignore libpam-runtime: /usr/share/man/man8/pam.conf.8.gz passwd: /etc/pam.d/passwd libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules/examples/upperLOWER/Makefile libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_nologin.so libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_shells.so libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_unix_acct.so libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_permit.so libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_env.so libpam-runtime: /usr/share/doc/libpam-runtime libpam0g: /lib/libpam_misc.so.0 passwd, util-linux, libpam-runtime, login: /etc/pam.d login: /etc/pam.d/su debhelper: /usr/bin/dh_installpam libpam-modules: /usr/share/doc/libpam-modules/copyright libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_stress.so libpam0g: /lib/libpam.so.0.70 libpam0g: /usr/share/doc/libpam0g/README.Debian libpam-runtime: /usr/share/man/man8/pam.d.8.gz passwd: /etc/pam.d/chsh libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_securetty.so libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_unix_auth.so libpam-runtime: /usr/share/doc/libpam-runtime/copyright libpam0g: /usr/share/doc/libpam0g/copyright libpam-runtime: /etc/pam.conf libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_lastlog.so libpam-modules: /lib/security/pam_deny.so passwd: /etc/pam.d/chfn libpam-modules:
Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 08:51:47AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: Ok Ben, here they are. One other thing to note: During the install I had a message with modutils stating that The form: Patch[fs]=/lib/modules/2.2.10 was replaced with the form: Patch[fs]=/lib/modules/2.2.10/fs I could not find where to change thi. I did find a file called conf.modules.old that had command lines like those described above. Could this be causing a problem with pam? No, completely unrelated. OTHER auth required pam_deny.so OTHER account required pam_deny.so OTHER password required pam_deny.so OTHER session required pam_deny.so Here's the problem, not sure where the settings in this file came from. The distributed other looks like this: ## # # /etc/pam.d/other - specify the PAM fallback behaviour # # We fall back to the standard UNIX access. If this is not secure enough # for your purpose, consider specifying pam_deny.so instead. # auth required pam_unix_auth.so account required pam_unix_acct.so password required pam_unix_passwd.so session required pam_unix_session.so ## Change /etc/pam.d/other to look like this. Also, run this and see what versions of the PAM libraries you have installed: dpkg -l | grep libpam Thanks, Ben
Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...
Ok, I modified the file as you show below. Did you notice that there was a file named other.dpkg-dist that had the following in it? Not sure if this is important or not. auth required pam_unix.so account required pam_unix.so password required pam_unix.so session required pam_unix.so What should I do after this? I am afraid to reboot and not be able to log in ever again... I have attacked the output from dpkg -l | grep libpam Thanks again, Doug Ben Collins wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 08:51:47AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: Ok Ben, here they are. One other thing to note: During the install I had a message with modutils stating that The form: Patch[fs]=/lib/modules/2.2.10 was replaced with the form: Patch[fs]=/lib/modules/2.2.10/fs I could not find where to change thi. I did find a file called conf.modules.old that had command lines like those described above. Could this be causing a problem with pam? No, completely unrelated. OTHER auth required pam_deny.so OTHER account required pam_deny.so OTHER password required pam_deny.so OTHER session required pam_deny.so Here's the problem, not sure where the settings in this file came from. The distributed other looks like this: ## # # /etc/pam.d/other - specify the PAM fallback behaviour # # We fall back to the standard UNIX access. If this is not secure enough # for your purpose, consider specifying pam_deny.so instead. # auth required pam_unix_auth.so account required pam_unix_acct.so password required pam_unix_passwd.so session required pam_unix_session.so ## Change /etc/pam.d/other to look like this. Also, run this and see what versions of the PAM libraries you have installed: dpkg -l | grep libpam Thanks, Ben ii libpam-modules 0.70-2 Pluggable Authentication Modules for PAM ii libpam-runtime 0.70-2 Runtime support for the PAM library ii libpam0g0.70-2 Pluggable Authentication Modules library
Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 11:44:27AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: Ok, I modified the file as you show below. Did you notice that there was a file named other.dpkg-dist that had the following in it? Not sure if this is important or not. auth required pam_unix.so account required pam_unix.so password required pam_unix.so session required pam_unix.so What should I do after this? I am afraid to reboot and not be able to log in ever again... You should try to login. Also, do you have pam-apps installed? If so, remove it, and make sure that the passwd and login packages are up to date 19990827-x is the latest). I have attacked the output from dpkg -l | grep libpam Everything there looks ok, latest PAM. Ben
Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...
I can not log in and the passwd function still give me a segmentation fault. I will remove pam-apps. Do I need to do anything else to get the changes I've made to be recognized? Doug Ben Collins wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 11:44:27AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: Ok, I modified the file as you show below. Did you notice that there was a file named other.dpkg-dist that had the following in it? Not sure if this is important or not. auth required pam_unix.so account required pam_unix.so password required pam_unix.so session required pam_unix.so What should I do after this? I am afraid to reboot and not be able to log in ever again... You should try to login. Also, do you have pam-apps installed? If so, remove it, and make sure that the passwd and login packages are up to date 19990827-x is the latest). I have attacked the output from dpkg -l | grep libpam Everything there looks ok, latest PAM. Ben
Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...
Ben, I could not find pam-apps at all using dselect. While I was there, I removed all obsolete packages (there were several, and this did not have any other affects). dselect did want to install several other packages but this did not help either. I am not sure why my system ended up with shadow passwords and such. Prior to this problem, I was running potato fine without it and dselect seemed to decide on its own to install these extra packages. Is there a way to get back to where I was? Doug Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: I can not log in and the passwd function still give me a segmentation fault. I will remove pam-apps. Do I need to do anything else to get the changes I've made to be recognized? Doug Ben Collins wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 11:44:27AM -0700, Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: Ok, I modified the file as you show below. Did you notice that there was a file named other.dpkg-dist that had the following in it? Not sure if this is important or not. auth required pam_unix.so account required pam_unix.so password required pam_unix.so session required pam_unix.so What should I do after this? I am afraid to reboot and not be able to log in ever again... You should try to login. Also, do you have pam-apps installed? If so, remove it, and make sure that the passwd and login packages are up to date 19990827-x is the latest). I have attacked the output from dpkg -l | grep libpam Everything there looks ok, latest PAM. Ben -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Help!!! - Potato upgrade using dselect trashed computer...
On 23-Oct-99 Doug Thistlethwaite wrote: Ben, I could not find pam-apps at all using dselect. While I was there, I removed all obsolete packages (there were several, and this did not have any other affects). dselect did want to install several other packages but this did not help either. I am not sure why my system ended up with shadow passwords and such. Prior to this problem, I was running potato fine without it and dselect seemed to decide on its own to install these extra packages. Is there a way to get back to where I was? I wonder if one can perform dpkg-repack on all the packages that are about to be upgraded. That would be a nice option. I did not find it in a apt man page. It would be a good option to use in a situation such as the one described above, *before* performing the upgrade. -- Andrew
papd (netatalk) broken in potato upgrade
Greetings: Last night, I completed my upgrade to potato with an 'apt-get dist-upgrade'. The only breakage I haven't been able to fix is in papd, or something related. When I try to print through the Debian system from a Macintosh, the file goes into the print queue but the print queue stops. I get the following message in lpr.log: Oct 10 11:35:44 owl papd[1816]: child 2573 for ^Ideclaser from 65280.173 Oct 10 11:35:46 owl papd[2573]: lp_conn_unix connect /dev/printer: Connection refused Oct 10 11:35:46 owl papd[2573]: lp_print: lp_conn_unix: Connection refused Oct 10 11:35:46 owl papd[1816]: child 2573 done Since I don't have a /dev/printer, I sym linked it to /dev/lp0, but I still get the same message amd the same symptoms. lpq gives this result while the job is hung: owl$ lpq Warning: no daemon present Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stoperator 67 untitled .(WP.10364 bytes 'lpc up lp' lets the job print and restores the queue to normal until another Mac print job comes in. Printing works fine from the local machine and from a windows machine through samba. -- Mark Zimmerman
ftpd disabled after potato upgrade
I recently upgraded from slink to potato. At some point, my inetd.conf file got #off# prepended to the ftp line, disabling it. A comment at the top of inetd.conf says Lines starting with ... #off# should not be changed unless you know what you are doing! As I have apparently have no idea what I'm doing, I figured I'd ask here before uncommenting-out the line. What's the deal? - Kris
Help--potato upgrade flakey with apt-get/dselect
I apologize up front for the length of this post, but am trying to max the info for brave souls who may be able to help me... An upgrade initially using apt-get then finished with deselect has left an unknown number of packages possibly not upgraded. Slink--potato, BTW. The long story: (the big questions are listed at the end, FWIW) An upgrade which ran all night/day has apparently not updated all packages. After initial download-only, I reran apt-get dist-upgrade and most packages installed seemingly with no problems. Then I noted flakey operation of gnome under X, and somehow surmised that the system had been unpacked but not configured. I didn't know about dpkg --configure -a at the time, but got the idea of using deselect. It updated the package lists via apt. I looked at the list (full of U's) and decided to add the 2.2.10 kernel package. In addition to its dependencies, others were noted for other packages. I accepted them, as I have no way to tell the validity of the choices made. Deselect got a newer version of the unstable lists as well, forcing a further download of 36 Mb. Installation seemed to go well, with the unconfigured packages dropping to 2 from 200+. Attempted setup of the kernel package (which dselect never unpacked) failed at make menuconfig concerning ncurses. I tried to remove the older ncurses3.4 package (since the latest was also installed), but dpkg balked. That's when I discovered that sysutils and taper had not been upgraded, apparently. I expect others are the same way. 1) Is there a way to get this to work? Can I redo the apt-get with all the files I downloaded, and simply force every package to be redone?? I have a feeling that something weird happened when I went over to dselect. 2) And why didn't the dist-upgrade not configure things initially? Would dpkg --configure -a be a better choice if it happened again? 3) How do I deal with the ncurses issue. Are any of the potato deb's dependent on the older ncurses3.4? 4) perl-5.004 vs. perl-5.005 ??? Do I trash the former or not? Dselect wouldn't let me remove it... (something to do with those un-upgraded packages??) Should the first step in dselect been to configure packages, without any of the other steps?? Thanks a bunch for any thoughts!! Kenward
Re: Help--potato upgrade flakey with apt-get/dselect
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) And why didn't the dist-upgrade not configure things initially? Would dpkg --configure -a be a better choice if it happened again? If you had noted the error messages you would have known that something had failed. In that instance the best thing is to just re-run apt-get fixing any problems until it completes without error. Jason
Re: Help--potato upgrade flakey with apt-get/dselect
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 11:51:02PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2) And why didn't the dist-upgrade not configure things initially? Would dpkg --configure -a be a better choice if it happened again? If you had noted the error messages you would have known that something had failed. In that instance the best thing is to just re-run apt-get fixing any problems until it completes without error. I don't recall error messages except about being unable to get to the non-us site, and one or two other package problems. I'll try blocking out that ftp site in sources and see what happens. Kenward
Re: Help--potato upgrade flakey with apt-get/dselect
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I apologize up front for the length of this post, but am trying to max the info for brave souls who may be able to help me... An upgrade initially using apt-get then finished with deselect has left an unknown number of packages possibly not upgraded. Slink--potato, BTW. The long story: (the big questions are listed at the end, FWIW) An upgrade which ran all night/day has apparently not updated all packages. After initial download-only, I reran apt-get dist-upgrade and most packages installed seemingly with no problems. Then I noted flakey operation of gnome under X, and somehow surmised that the system had been unpacked but not configured. I didn't know about dpkg --configure -a at the time, but got the idea of using deselect. If some package couldn't be downloaded, because of a timeout or something, this will cause trouble with installing other packages as well. Also, it could be that apt-get isn't perfect, and tried upgrading package X before package Y when Y needed to be first. You'll want to note the errors reported, and if you can't figure them out check the list archives. It updated the package lists via apt. I looked at the list (full of U's) and decided to add the 2.2.10 kernel package. In addition to its dependencies, others were noted for other packages. I accepted them, as I have no way to tell the validity of the choices made. Deselect got a newer version of the unstable lists as well, forcing a further download of 36 Mb. Installation seemed to go well, with the unconfigured packages dropping to 2 from 200+. Which 2? Attempted setup of the kernel package (which dselect never unpacked) failed at make menuconfig concerning ncurses. I tried to remove the older ncurses3.4 package (since the latest was also installed), but dpkg balked. That's when I discovered that sysutils and taper had not been upgraded, apparently. I expect others are the same way. You need the -dev package for the latest ncurses for make menuconfig... It's only listed as a Suggests, so you probably missed it in the conflict resolution screen. 1) Is there a way to get this to work? Can I redo the apt-get with all the files I downloaded, and simply force every package to be redone?? I have a feeling that something weird happened when I went over to dselect. i don't think you need to, you just have to get those 2 fixed. Also, you can eventually go through and remove some slink packages (especially libs) that aren't needed under potato. Sometimes the package is renamed between the two, so you get no notice that the old one isn't needed anymore... The only problem is that it takes up disk space, so don't feel you have to rush it. 2) And why didn't the dist-upgrade not configure things initially? Would dpkg --configure -a be a better choice if it happened again? dpkg --configure -a would be good to try. After doing that a few times, note the error messages and take action to correct them. 3) How do I deal with the ncurses issue. Are any of the potato deb's dependent on the older ncurses3.4? See above. 4) perl-5.004 vs. perl-5.005 ??? Do I trash the former or not? Dselect wouldn't let me remove it... (something to do with those un-upgraded packages??) Ah, the Great Perl Upgrade. Once you have your system completely potato, you can remove perl-5.004 without much trouble. This may bring some of those obsolete slink packages out of the woodwork, just look at the dselect conflict resolution screen and see if you really want to keep any that are to be removed... AFAICT, there's only one potato package that hasn't made the Upgrade (netcdf-perl) Should the first step in dselect been to configure packages, without any of the other steps?? Wouldn't have hurt, but probably wouldn't have helped either. - -- finger for PGP public key. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBN89tRr7M/9WKZLW5AQFwkQQAlEK/bALi4tf9tOzbcAkOh+UUoqVvwRl3 BqkuMew1HteMNPw37JB3hifDoaIxVBMBpr6sEnRDpr5MzzscD4/Lk73bBhSlddrh s3xKF9JNpgpurMIcpjLYJr98YzykxznvgCrH2m+vZvf+GeumM6Lb0OTFn8P52BfP aNkhvGOS2/s= =CG0d -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Understanding apt-get. Was Re: Help--potato upgrade flakey with apt-get/dselect
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I apologize up front for the length of this post, but am trying to max the info for brave souls who may be able to help me... An upgrade initially using apt-get then finished with deselect has left an unknown number of packages possibly not upgraded. Slink--potato, BTW. [...] My thanks to Brad and Jason for their help. Things are more or less normal, though I'll throw another post out shortly about gnome. I did not realize that a problem which arises during apt's operations would cause it to stop short of completing other installations. That explains fully the unconfigured packages and missing upgrades. Now that it's daylight I can (again) say duh! when looking back on things. The thought from both fellows to simply rerun/correct-as-you-go until it drops into place worked. The packages which caused problems were 1) setserial--not finishing its setup because the module_update mechanism was o.o.date (perhaps due to another pkg. not yet being installed?); I ran a forced update later which removed the msg, as suggested. 2) sane/libsane--libsane died trying to overwrite a file already on sane's list. I renamed that file after the 1st failure, and it still died w/same complaint. Solution was to remove the 2 packages. Today I don't recall others, if any. My ncurses3.4 problem disappeared after completion of the install. Trashed it then. I used the potato level ncurses libs for kernel compilation. Do the kernel dev packages have something different? The old perl will drop soon (my wife wants on, so I'm back in OS/2... she doesn't want to learn new keystrokes yet ;). Thanks again, Kenward -- --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
Slink - Potato upgrade problem WORKAROUND
Hi, all. I am a more or less experienced debian user, and I want to share this with you; I went through a few minor problems, when I recently decided that I had scr*wed up my system(Potato) and it was time for a reinstall. I reinstalled from a set of Slink CDs, and proceeded to do an apt-get update and an apt-get dist-upgrade from the nearest mirror. this upgrade went wrong with the following error; (or something similar) Removing bash; Installing libreadlineg2; Confing libreadlineg2; Installing bash; error; cannot execute bla-bla-bla; no such file or directory; Now bash was gone, and I had no idea how to fix it, except for changing shell to tcsh, (and that's no workaround). I suspected that the mirror was broken or in the process of an update, so I reinstalled and tried 5 other mirrors, and it went exactly the same way every time, even if I tried to upgrade with dselect. At this point I was ready for a mental institution! (:o$) I now suspected that something was wrong with the new bash and libreadlineg2, so I reinstalled, put them on hold in dselect, and upgraded with dselect. This time everything went smooth, except for a minor error, where I had to kill cron manually to install a newer version of cron (or something else). Now I had a working system, and thought of looking at this mailinglist, and I could see from other mails on this list, that others have had the same problem. Someone suggested to use ash instead when bash is gone(thanks, pal!), and I found this to be a valid workaround; (still with bash and libreadlineg2 on hold) install ash with dselect or maybe apt-get (I used dselect) now select bash and libreadline for upgrading, and (try to) install. When the error occurs, quit dselect and do; cd /bin ln -s ash sh start dselect again and install, and bash gets installed, and your system is O.K. again. (and all packages are up-to-date) If you have already had this error and you don't have ash installed, I don't know how to get it working again. Maybe with a manual install of ash from a tar.gz? I have not been able to find a homepage or anything similar for ash, not even on the NetBSD site, does anyone know where to get a gzipped tarball with ash, so one can install ash manually ? Regards Jens C. Denmark
Re: Slink - Potato upgrade problem WORKAROUND
Even easier work around: $ apt-get upgrade libreadline $ apt-get upgrade bash Get the readline first. -- Eric G. Miller Powered by the POTATO (http://www.debian.org)!
Re: scripting a potato upgrade
Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not use APT? Here's my /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US/main non-US/contrib n on-US/non-free To upgrade: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. It handles everything and installs all of the packages in the right order. Because of the glibc2.1 upgrade, I'm not sure how to do it your way. I've used APT since before slink and it did everything in the right order. A while ago I sort of got to grips with apt and decided to upgrade my system from Slink to Potato. Since I have only a 56K modem and pay for my call charges it was with some trepidation that I entered apt-get dist-upgrade just before going to bed one night. I had set a time-out on my ppp connection and woke up to find that I had been connected around four hours. Weighing up the cost of purchasing the CDs and four hours worth of telephone calls it was clear the ppp method had won. Since then I regularly to apt-get dist-uptdate to ensure I always have the latest packages. Occasionally I have problems in that a package is corrupt, or the process stalls for some reason, but always apt gives clear suggestions as to how to overcome the problem. The blockage must be cleared for apt to continue to install/configure packages it has downloaded. IMHO this is a weakness of apt - once I had lost all networking (ppp) and my ISP told me my port 25 was closed. Somehow I realised that a recent apt session had not completed. Can't remember what caused the problem, but I cleared it and apt started loads of configuration. After that I had my system back to a functional state. -- Phillip Deackes Debian Linux (Potato)
Re: scripting a potato upgrade
Phillip, I don't understand your cost analysis. Potato is not release yet, and as far as I know, there aren't any commercial outlets for Potato CD's yet. I don't think Official Potato CD's are available from anyone yet... which is as it should be. So what were you comparing your dialup costs to? I think you'd be stuck doing an apt upgrade or downloading a ton of files and making your own CD's with a CD burner, which would be pretty messy right now, anyway... If you're ever looking for inexpensive Slink CD-ROM's, http://www.cheapbytes.com makes a nice Official Debian distro that comes in at a very low price. On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Phillip Deackes wrote: A while ago I sort of got to grips with apt and decided to upgrade my system from Slink to Potato. Since I have only a 56K modem and pay for my call charges it was with some trepidation that I entered apt-get dist-upgrade just before going to bed one night. I had set a time-out on my ppp connection and woke up to find that I had been connected around four hours. Weighing up the cost of purchasing the CDs and four hours worth of telephone calls it was clear the ppp method had won. Since then I regularly to apt-get dist-uptdate to ensure I always have the latest packages. +---++ | Nate Duehr - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Support Amateur Radio Linux! | | Private Pilot, Telephony Engineer | Ham Callsign: N0NTZ | | UNIX Hack, Perl Hack, Tech-Freak | Grid Square: DM79 | | | May the Source be with you. | +---++ | HamRadio and Linux mailing lists available for interested parties: | |http://www.natetech.com/mailman/listinfo| ++
Re: scripting a potato upgrade
Nathan Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phillip, I don't understand your cost analysis. Potato is not release yet, and as far as I know, there aren't any commercial outlets for Potato CD's yet. I don't think Official Potato CD's are available from anyone yet... which is as it should be. So what were you comparing your dialup costs to? I think you'd be stuck doing an apt upgrade or downloading a ton of files and making your own CD's with a CD burner, which would be pretty messy right now, anyway... I am able to source Potato CDs in the UK. Of course they are not 'Official' merely copies of the Debian ftp sites. My telephone call charges are around 65p an hour, just over 1 US Dollar. It cost me 4 USD for a distribution upgrade. I have always purchased CDs before, for whatever distribution I was using. I already have the Slink CDs. The cost of the CDs plus mailing exceeds 4 USD. That's what I was comparing costs with. The idea of upgarding over the 'net was new to me so I needed some frame of reference as to whether it would be worthwhile. In future I shall always do it this way unless the upgrade entails a major download. If you're ever looking for inexpensive Slink CD-ROM's, http://www.cheapbytes.com makes a nice Official Debian distro that comes in at a very low price. I have used Cheapbytes before when I used RedHat. Excellent company. -- Phillip Deackes Debian Linux (Potato)
Re: scripting a potato upgrade
On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 03:48:35AM -0600, Nathan Duehr wrote: I don't understand your cost analysis. Potato is not release yet, and as far as I know, there aren't any commercial outlets for Potato CD's yet. I don't think Official Potato CD's are available from anyone yet... which is as it should be. Just because you can't get official CDs, that doesn't mean to say that can't buy CDs. Over here it makes sense to burn unstable CDs since people would like to use potato just as much as you do in the US but can't really manage full net upgrades due to the costs. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ pgpvrQbUSdA8O.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: scripting a potato upgrade
Hi Mark, You're right, I'm spoiled with inexpensive net access. I didn't realize that companies were offering ftp mirror snapshots on CD across the pond because of the high price of connectivity to download files. I've been working for telecommunication companies for almost the last 10 years, so I forget that telecommunications in other countries is still very expensive in many cases. My apologies... glad we all have a way to get to potato one way or another. On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Mark Brown wrote: On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 03:48:35AM -0600, Nathan Duehr wrote: I don't understand your cost analysis. Potato is not release yet, and as far as I know, there aren't any commercial outlets for Potato CD's yet. I don't think Official Potato CD's are available from anyone yet... which is as it should be. Just because you can't get official CDs, that doesn't mean to say that can't buy CDs. Over here it makes sense to burn unstable CDs since people would like to use potato just as much as you do in the US but can't really manage full net upgrades due to the costs. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ +---++ | Nate Duehr - [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Support Amateur Radio Linux! | | Private Pilot, Telephony Engineer | Ham Callsign: N0NTZ | | UNIX Hack, Perl Hack, Tech-Freak | Grid Square: DM79 | | | May the Source be with you. | +---++ | HamRadio and Linux mailing lists available for interested parties: | |http://www.natetech.com/mailman/listinfo| ++
scripting a potato upgrade
Hey all, I'm in the process of grabbing the lib/base/admin and a few other dirs of files for a potato upgrade from slink. By nature of dependancies, it can take a few times through dpkg -i to get everything installed properly and I was thinking of scripting the process but I've never really written any scripts before. I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction of somewhere I can look to learn--at least enough to have dpkg run through a couple directories a few times. |cheshire|
Re: scripting a potato upgrade
On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 03:11:33PM -0600, Cheshire wrote: Hey all, I'm in the process of grabbing the lib/base/admin and a few other dirs of files for a potato upgrade from slink. By nature of dependancies, it can take a few times through dpkg -i to get everything installed properly and I was thinking of scripting the process but I've never really written any scripts before. I was wondering if someone could point me in the direction of somewhere I can look to learn--at least enough to have dpkg run through a couple directories a few times. |cheshire| -- Why not use APT? Here's my /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US/main non-US/contrib n on-US/non-free To upgrade: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. It handles everything and installs all of the packages in the right order. Because of the glibc2.1 upgrade, I'm not sure how to do it your way. I've used APT since before slink and it did everything in the right order. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade
Thanks for the clarification. Doug Martin Bialasinski wrote: Doug == Doug Thistlethwaite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug password file (I don't even remember if it was an option at that Doug time). I think the latest version set the system up to use Doug passwords, but the file didn't have the users or passwords Doug available. And it can't. SMB uses a different algorithm than crypt which is used for /etc/shadow. So you can't just copy the crypted password into the samba password file. Ciao, Martin -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade
Doug == Doug Thistlethwaite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug One more thing about Samba. Does anyone know why the Doug distribution does not have all of the tools that are described Doug on the samba site. Because the package has been broken up. Doug There is a file that describes a set of steps to debug problems Doug like I am having. The third step call for the use of smbclient Doug which is not in any of the deb files as far as I can tell. Package smbclient. You could also install smaba-doc package which also has the diagnosis file you were reading. If you are looking for a package that has some specific file, look at packages.debian.org, which has a search engine. Ciao, Martin
Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade
Thanks for the information! The smbclient is in its own package. I fixed my samba installation by re-creating the password file for samba. I think that the problem was that when I first installed samba, I did not use a separate password file (I don't even remember if it was an option at that time). I think the latest version set the system up to use passwords, but the file didn't have the users or passwords available. I re-created the password file, and entered the users and passwords by hand. After this, samba works fine! Thanks to all who helped on this issue! Doug Martin Bialasinski wrote: Doug == Doug Thistlethwaite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug One more thing about Samba. Does anyone know why the Doug distribution does not have all of the tools that are described Doug on the samba site. Because the package has been broken up. Doug There is a file that describes a set of steps to debug problems Doug like I am having. The third step call for the use of smbclient Doug which is not in any of the deb files as far as I can tell. Package smbclient. You could also install smaba-doc package which also has the diagnosis file you were reading. If you are looking for a package that has some specific file, look at packages.debian.org, which has a search engine. Ciao, Martin -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade
Thanks for the information James, My first instalation was using plain text passwords. The latest version didn't transfer that setting from my old config. Craig, I found this out before I read your message, but you are completely correct. I recreated the users and passwords and everything worked great! Thanks again, Doug Daniels, Craig wrote: I had the same problem when I upgraded to potato with samba 2.04. There's probably a better way to do this, but I fixed it using smbpasswd with the username for each of my users and entered a default password. After that, it seems to work fine. Craig -- From: Doug Thistlethwaite Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 2:12 AM To: Lewis, James M.; debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Doug Work Subject: Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade Ok, I upgraded to 2.2.10 kernel but my Samba still does not recognise my passwords from my win 95 system. My old samba configuration used plain text passwords if my memory serves me right. I think there was a problem with encription of passwords when I first installed it. If this is the case, how do I go about setting up my system to accept passwords? Any help pointing me in the correct direction would be greatly appriciated! Doug Lewis, James M. wrote: After upgrading my system to potato, my samba services no longer work. I get an error message saying that the password supplied is not valid. Everything worked fine under slink. If I remember correctly, part of the instructions on the old setup was to remove password encryption so windows 95 could connect (Its been so long, I'm not sure exactly what I did to set it up). The latest version of samba has encryption enabled for windows 95/98. Where should I look to modify my configuration files? Are there any docs on conversion issues from the version that was stable with slink? If all you did was upgrade samba, then the problem might be with the kernel version. I had a similar problem with 2.0.36 kernel. I upgraded to 2.2.10 and things worked right. The problem was that samba could not become the connected user. Thanks, Doug -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null jim -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade
Doug == Doug Thistlethwaite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug password file (I don't even remember if it was an option at that Doug time). I think the latest version set the system up to use Doug passwords, but the file didn't have the users or passwords Doug available. And it can't. SMB uses a different algorithm than crypt which is used for /etc/shadow. So you can't just copy the crypted password into the samba password file. Ciao, Martin
RE: samba password changes after potato upgrade
Ok, I upgraded to 2.2.10 kernel but my Samba still does not recognise my passwords from my win 95 system. My old samba configuration used plain text passwords if my memory serves me right. I think there was a problem with encription of passwords when I first installed it. If this is the case, how do I go about setting up my system to accept passwords? Any help pointing me in the correct direction would be greatly appriciated! Doug My system has to deal with nt so I use encrypted passwords. I am also using one of the nt domain controllers to verify the passwords. To use encrypted passwords you need to put encrypt passwords = yes in the [global] section. Here is what I have: encrypt passwords = yes security = server password server = domaincontroller1, backupdomaincontroller, etc I'm not an expert by any means. Samba security is a little fuzzy to me. However, here is a stab at some other configs. nt4.0 clients and recent win95/98 clients, local authentication: encrypt passwords = yes security = user In this case, each user has to have an account on the samba server and an entry in the smbpasswd file. Alternately, you can map win users to samba server (linux) users with a users.map file in /etc/samba. win95 clients with passwords sent clear text: encrypt passwords = no security = user Pretty much the same as the previous example on user setup. I haven't tried this. If you need to connect nt this way, there is info about a registry entry to force clear text passwords. Info is in the samba-doc package. References: smb.conf man page, ENCRYPTION.txt.gz, security_level.txt.gz On the kernel, I have found 2.2.10 to be pretty solid. It seems faster on my tired old 486-66 cast-off that's running samba. I have heard of file system problems but haven't experienced anything like that. jim Lewis, James M. wrote: After upgrading my system to potato, my samba services no longer work. I get an error message saying that the password supplied is not valid. Everything worked fine under slink. If I remember correctly, part of the instructions on the old setup was to remove password encryption so windows 95 could connect (Its been so long, I'm not sure exactly what I did to set it up). The latest version of samba has encryption enabled for windows 95/98. Where should I look to modify my configuration files? Are there any docs on conversion issues from the version that was stable with slink? If all you did was upgrade samba, then the problem might be with the kernel version. I had a similar problem with 2.0.36 kernel. I upgraded to 2.2.10 and things worked right. The problem was that samba could not become the connected user. Thanks, Doug -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null jim -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: samba password changes after potato upgrade
I had the same problem when I upgraded to potato with samba 2.04. There's probably a better way to do this, but I fixed it using smbpasswd with the username for each of my users and entered a default password. After that, it seems to work fine. Craig -- From: Doug Thistlethwaite Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 2:12 AM To: Lewis, James M.; debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Doug Work Subject: Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade Ok, I upgraded to 2.2.10 kernel but my Samba still does not recognise my passwords from my win 95 system. My old samba configuration used plain text passwords if my memory serves me right. I think there was a problem with encription of passwords when I first installed it. If this is the case, how do I go about setting up my system to accept passwords? Any help pointing me in the correct direction would be greatly appriciated! Doug Lewis, James M. wrote: After upgrading my system to potato, my samba services no longer work. I get an error message saying that the password supplied is not valid. Everything worked fine under slink. If I remember correctly, part of the instructions on the old setup was to remove password encryption so windows 95 could connect (Its been so long, I'm not sure exactly what I did to set it up). The latest version of samba has encryption enabled for windows 95/98. Where should I look to modify my configuration files? Are there any docs on conversion issues from the version that was stable with slink? If all you did was upgrade samba, then the problem might be with the kernel version. I had a similar problem with 2.0.36 kernel. I upgraded to 2.2.10 and things worked right. The problem was that samba could not become the connected user. Thanks, Doug -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null jim -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade
Subject: Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade Date: Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 11:19:16PM -0700 In reply to:Doug Thistlethwaite Quoting Doug Thistlethwaite([EMAIL PROTECTED]): One more thing about Samba. Does anyone know why the distribution does not have all of the tools that are described on the samba site. There is a file that describes a set of steps to debug problems like I am having. The third step call for the use of smbclient which is not in any of the deb files as far as I can tell. Where can I get this program? In step 4 it says to us an utility called nmblookup. Is this file available in a deb install file? Thanks for your time, Doug What version are you running? dpkg -s samba I have version 1.9.18p10-7 installed and have everything you are looking for. -- Real computer scientists don't program in assembler. They don't write in anything less portable than a number two pencil. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade
Humm. I was using 2.0.36 with slink and it worked fine. I will checkout the kernel upgrade and see what is up. How stable is 2.2.10? Doug Lewis, James M. wrote: After upgrading my system to potato, my samba services no longer work. I get an error message saying that the password supplied is not valid. Everything worked fine under slink. If I remember correctly, part of the instructions on the old setup was to remove password encryption so windows 95 could connect (Its been so long, I'm not sure exactly what I did to set it up). The latest version of samba has encryption enabled for windows 95/98. Where should I look to modify my configuration files? Are there any docs on conversion issues from the version that was stable with slink? If all you did was upgrade samba, then the problem might be with the kernel version. I had a similar problem with 2.0.36 kernel. I upgraded to 2.2.10 and things worked right. The problem was that samba could not become the connected user. Thanks, Doug -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null jim
Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade
Subject: Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade Date: Sun, Jul 18, 1999 at 05:10:07PM -0700 In reply to:Doug Thistlethwaite Quoting Doug Thistlethwaite([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Humm. I was using 2.0.36 with slink and it worked fine. I will checkout the kernel upgrade and see what is up. How stable is 2.2.10? Doug Very stable. I have been using it for over a month. HTH, YMMV, HAND -- Hi, my name is Any Key. Please don't hit me! ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade
Ok, I upgraded to 2.2.10 kernel but my Samba still does not recognise my passwords from my win 95 system. My old samba configuration used plain text passwords if my memory serves me right. I think there was a problem with encription of passwords when I first installed it. If this is the case, how do I go about setting up my system to accept passwords? Any help pointing me in the correct direction would be greatly appriciated! Doug Lewis, James M. wrote: After upgrading my system to potato, my samba services no longer work. I get an error message saying that the password supplied is not valid. Everything worked fine under slink. If I remember correctly, part of the instructions on the old setup was to remove password encryption so windows 95 could connect (Its been so long, I'm not sure exactly what I did to set it up). The latest version of samba has encryption enabled for windows 95/98. Where should I look to modify my configuration files? Are there any docs on conversion issues from the version that was stable with slink? If all you did was upgrade samba, then the problem might be with the kernel version. I had a similar problem with 2.0.36 kernel. I upgraded to 2.2.10 and things worked right. The problem was that samba could not become the connected user. Thanks, Doug -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null jim -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: samba password changes after potato upgrade
One more thing about Samba. Does anyone know why the distribution does not have all of the tools that are described on the samba site. There is a file that describes a set of steps to debug problems like I am having. The third step call for the use of smbclient which is not in any of the deb files as far as I can tell. Where can I get this program? In step 4 it says to us an utility called nmblookup. Is this file available in a deb install file? Thanks for your time, Doug P.S: The file I was looking at is http://us1.samba.org/samba/docs/DIAGNOSIS.html
3rd Call for help - Lost network card after Potato Upgrade
Hello, I hope someone can help me with this. It seems like it should not to hard to fix, but without any knowledge of how or where the network services are started / initialized, I don't think I will figure it out without help. I upgraded my slink system to potato using dselect about a week ago. After the inital runs through dselect/install/config/remove there weretwo problems still being reported. #1 the gcc deb file would not load because of a conflicht with an old libg++. #2 setserial would not configure. I removed the old libg++272 (I think that was its name) and gcc seemed to install fine. The error messages during the configureation of setserial said that my modules needed to be updated and to run update-module force and run configure again. Well, I did this and the above listed fix and now my network card is no longer detected. (Note: I noticed the problem after I rebooted the system so I am not sure exactly what is causing this. I looked in my /var/log/kern.log file and found these differences before and after the reboot. The last line in this file has the line (note: the *date systemname* is acutially the date time and systemname at the time of the reboot. I just didn't feel like typing it all in each time). *date systemname* kernel: ne.c No PCI cards found. use io=0xNNN values for ISA cards. Prior to the problem (earlier in the file) I had the following: *date systemname* kernel: ne.c v1.10 9/23/94 Donald Becher (*email address*) *date systemname* kernel: NE*000 ethercard probe at 0x300 00 50 4e 03 8b d6 *date systemname* kernel: eth0: NE2000 found at 0x300 using IRQ 3 Does anyone have an idea of what I did? How can I get my networking re-activated? Thank you for your time, Doug Thistlethwaite
