Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-06 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Mer 6 février 2013 1:12, Rob Owens a écrit : On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 09:50:09AM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: Those of you who don't use PA, how do you do network streaming? That is my usecase for PA as it's handy to start a stream on my desktop and send it to the Myth box for playback

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-06 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 02/05/2013 08:44 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Dienstag, 5. Februar 2013 schrieb darkestkhan: Mixing works out of the box here too - some integrated Intel audio chipset. AFAIK in recent versions of ALSA / distributions shipping it, by default dmix is automatically configured and

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-06 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 02/05/2013 09:50 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: Those of you who don't use PA, how do you do network streaming? That is my usecase for PA as it's handy to start a stream on my desktop and send it to the Myth box for playback through the amp. I can do that from the laptop if I choose as well. The

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-06 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 02/05/2013 01:44 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Dienstag, 5. Februar 2013 schrieb darkestkhan: Mixing works out of the box here too - some integrated Intel audio chipset. AFAIK in recent versions of ALSA / distributions shipping it, by default dmix is automatically configured and used.

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-05 Thread darkestkhan
Mixing works out of the box here too - some integrated Intel audio chipset. darkestkhan

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-05 Thread Nate Bargmann
Those of you who don't use PA, how do you do network streaming? That is my usecase for PA as it's handy to start a stream on my desktop and send it to the Myth box for playback through the amp. I can do that from the laptop if I choose as well. The trick is to use the Sid/Wheezy version of

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-05 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 5. Februar 2013 schrieb darkestkhan: Mixing works out of the box here too - some integrated Intel audio chipset. AFAIK in recent versions of ALSA / distributions shipping it, by default dmix is automatically configured and used. On my ThinkPad T530 mixing works out of the box as

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-05 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 05 feb 13, 09:50:09, Nate Bargmann wrote: Those of you who don't use PA, how do you do network streaming? That is my usecase for PA as it's handy to start a stream on my desktop and send it to the Myth box for playback through the amp. I can do that from the laptop if I choose as

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-05 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 09:50:09AM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: Those of you who don't use PA, how do you do network streaming? That is my usecase for PA as it's handy to start a stream on my desktop and send it to the Myth box for playback through the amp. I can do that from the laptop if I

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-04 Thread berenger . morel
Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything? I do not understand... for which use alsa does not work? It works perfectly here... He is not saying ALSA doesn't work for him. I understood that phrase like he was saying alsa could not work? If that was not what he meant, I would be grateful

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 09:09:42AM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything? I do not understand... for which use alsa does not work? It works perfectly here... He is not saying ALSA doesn't work for him. I understood that phrase like he

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-04 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 04 February 2013 08:09:42 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything? I do not understand... for which use alsa does not work? It works perfectly here... He is not saying ALSA doesn't work for him. I understood that phrase like he was

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-04 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 6:28 AM, Carl Fink c...@finknetwork.com wrote: So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation. Developers, after years of work, have signally failed to fix it. Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything? Esound is (mostly?) unmaintained for a long

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-04 Thread Morel Bérenger
Pure ALSA works fine if you only need one sound at a time and don't need/want stuff like per source volume, and don't mind Flash sometimes messing up and blocking all access to the sound card. I think you are speaking about OSS here, not about alsa. Alsa is able to play more than one

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-04 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Morel Bérenger berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Pure ALSA works fine if you only need one sound at a time and don't need/want stuff like per source volume, and don't mind Flash sometimes messing up and blocking all access to the sound card. I think you are

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-04 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 08:36:34AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Morel Bérenger berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Pure ALSA works fine if you only need one sound at a time and don't need/want stuff like per source volume, and don't mind Flash sometimes

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-04 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 08:36:34AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Morel Bérenger berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Pure ALSA works fine if you only need one sound at a time and don't

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-04 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday, February 4, 2013, Kelly Clowers wrote: Esound is (mostly?) unmaintained for a long time AFAIK. Anyway, it was far buggier than PA ever was. Not that either are fun to deal with when all you want to do is be able to get Second Life's voice support to work. Pure ALSA works fine

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-04 Thread Paul Johnson
On Monday, February 4, 2013, Darac Marjal wrote: Actually, that depends on the hardware. If your hardware can do hardware mixing (I know of at least one SoundBlaster that can, but I can't remember which model at the moment), then you can play simultaneous streams. But for most cards, you have

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 4. Februar 2013 schrieb Kelly Clowers: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Morel Bérenger berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Pure ALSA works fine if you only need one sound at a time and don't need/want stuff like per source volume, and don't mind Flash sometimes messing up and

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-04 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 09:13:30 -0800 Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 08:36:34AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:28 AM, Morel Bérenger

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-04 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote: My ThinkPad T61's onboard 82801H Intel HD audio mixes audio perfectly out of the box (I'm using raw ALSA). Really? For sure no dmix - it is supposed to be out of the box nowadays? I guess that is what I get for not having fully

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-04 Thread Erwan David
On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 06:34:24AM CET, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com said: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Celejar cele...@gmail.com wrote: My ThinkPad T61's onboard 82801H Intel HD audio mixes audio perfectly out of the box (I'm using raw ALSA). Really? For sure no dmix - it

PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-03 Thread Carl Fink
So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation. Developers, after years of work, have signally failed to fix it. Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything? -- Carl Fink nitpick...@nitpicking.com Read my blog at blog.nitpicking.com. Reviews!

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-03 Thread Thierry Chatelet
The Sunday 03 February 2013 15:28:35, Carl Fink wrote : So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation. Developers, after years of work, have signally failed to fix it. Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything? You are hyjacking a thrad, so audio will be turn off, and

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-03 Thread berenger . morel
Le 03.02.2013 15:28, Carl Fink a écrit : So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation. Developers, after years of work, have signally failed to fix it. Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything? -- Carl Fink nitpick...@nitpicking.com Read my

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-03 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 02/03/13 08:28, Carl Fink wrote: So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation. Developers, after years of work, have signally failed to fix it. Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything? Just get rid of PA (Unless you're using GNOME 3) and just use ALSA barebones (Or

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-03 Thread berenger . morel
Le 03.02.2013 17:21, Yaro Kasear a écrit : On 02/03/13 08:28, Carl Fink wrote: So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation. Developers, after years of work, have signally failed to fix it. Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything? Just get rid of PA (Unless you're

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-03 Thread dAgeCKo
Le 03.02.2013 17:21, Yaro Kasear a écrit : On 02/03/13 08:28, Carl Fink wrote: So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation. Developers, after years of work, have signally failed to fix it. Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA? Anything? I personally use Alsa only and

Re: PulseAudio--is there a viable alternative?

2013-02-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 05:11:15PM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 03.02.2013 15:28, Carl Fink a écrit : So PulseAudio continues to be buggy to the point of infuriation. Developers, after years of work, have signally failed to fix it. Is eSound still usable? Mabye ALSA?