Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:53 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Mark Allums wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Mark Allums wrote: No, it's dependency hell. No. Dependency Hell[1] would require a rigidity of dependencies that are difficult to resolve. These resolve fine. And as is they are not causing any

Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 25 iul 12, 18:53:36, Bob Proulx wrote: I would prefer having more smaller bundles that could be installed piecemeal. However the upstream gnome developers don't feel the same way. They would like to see a 100% gnome system top to bottom and think doing anything else is wrong

Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-26 Thread cortman
Unfortunately this does not appear to have solved it after all- after running both apt-get install on the packages empathy wanted to remove (gnome, gnome-core, gnome-desktop-environment, task-gnome-desktop) and apt-mark manual, attempting to purge empathy tries to remove these same packages again.

Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-26 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello cortman, cortman c0rt...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately this does not appear to have solved it after all- after running both apt-get install on the packages empathy wanted to remove (gnome, gnome-core, gnome-desktop-environment, task-gnome-desktop) and apt-mark manual, attempting to

Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-26 Thread cortman
Ok- I must have misunderstood- apparently there's no way to uninstall empathy without also uninstalling the gnome metapackages, the trick is to mark all the contents of the packages as manually installed, therefore you can uninstall the metapackage safely. Correct? Regards, Cortman On Thu, Jul

Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-26 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello cortman, cortman c0rt...@gmail.com wrote: Ok- I must have misunderstood- apparently there's no way to uninstall empathy without also uninstalling the gnome metapackages, the trick is to mark all the contents of the packages as manually installed, therefore you can uninstall the

Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-25 Thread cortman
Hi all, I have a brand new installation of Debian Wheezy, updated to the current weekly build installed on my Toshiba A505 laptop. I chose to install the graphical desktop environment, laptop uitilites, and standard system utilities at tasksel during installation. The Gnome desktop comes with a

Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-25 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello cortman, cortman c0rt...@gmail.com wrote: So I ran apt-get purge empathy from the command line, which uninstalled it just fine- but now when I run apt-get for any other reason it returns a long list of packages that were automatically installed and are no longer required. Below is a

Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-25 Thread Mark Allums
On 7/25/2012 1:17 PM, cortman wrote: Hi all, I have a brand new installation of Debian Wheezy, updated to the current weekly build installed on my Toshiba A505 laptop. I chose to install the graphical desktop environment, laptop uitilites, and standard system utilities at tasksel during

Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-25 Thread cortman
Thanks much Claudius. Solved. Regards, Cortman On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Claudius Hubig debian_1...@chubig.net wrote: Hello cortman, cortman c0rt...@gmail.com wrote: So I ran apt-get purge empathy from the command line, which uninstalled it just fine- but now when I run apt-get for

Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Mark Allums wrote: cortman wrote: Is this a bug? No, it's dependency hell. No. Dependency Hell[1] would require a rigidity of dependencies that are difficult to resolve. These resolve fine. And as is they are not causing any problems. It is just suggesting that if you don't want gnome

Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 25 iul 12, 14:37:52, Bob Proulx wrote: I go through and mark the high level packages as manually installed by running the install command again. Since they are already installed it won't do anything but mark them as being wanted. For example: apt-get install libreoffice Just

Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-25 Thread Mark Allums
On 7/25/2012 3:37 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Mark Allums wrote: cortman wrote: Is this a bug? No, it's dependency hell. No. Dependency Hell[1] would require a rigidity of dependencies that are difficult to resolve. These resolve fine. And as is they are not causing any problems. It is just

Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Andrei POPESCU wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: I go through and mark the high level packages as manually installed by running the install command again. Since they are already installed it won't do anything but mark them as being wanted. For example: apt-get install libreoffice Just

Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Mark Allums wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Mark Allums wrote: No, it's dependency hell. No. Dependency Hell[1] would require a rigidity of dependencies that are difficult to resolve. These resolve fine. And as is they are not causing any problems. It is just suggesting that if you

Re: Purge Empathy messes up apt

2012-07-25 Thread Mark Allums
On 7/25/2012 7:53 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: I recall an incident where I wanted to remove some cruft (can't recall, but it was something silly, like AMOR) and apt wanted to remove 3/4 of the packages on my system, over 700 packages. Next time you hit a case like that it would be great if you