Re: Questions about Netatalk running on Debian server
On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: On 20120509_012529, Tom H wrote: On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: On 20120506_230937, Paul E Condon wrote: I have a long and troubled relation to Netatalk. I live in a family where everyone else loves the Mac, and I have a need to communicate with them. I once had netatalk running on Debian back in 2004, I think, but lost that ability about the time my daughter bought her first MacBook in 2006. I'm revisiting the problem now using an i386 box running Wheezy. I've installed netatalk from a Debian repository and started looking at /usr/share/doc/netatalk and the looking for a man page. The .../doc/netatalk files all date from 2010 or earlier, which is well before the version of netatalk in Wheezy was released. There is not 'man netatalk', but there is a 'man netatalk.conf', and that page begins with: SYNOPSIS /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf But no such file was installed by the netatalk package, and I can find no mention of netatalk.conf at .../doc/netatalk/ According to Aptitude, the version of netatalk that I installed is 2.2.2-1. From searching the web, I pick up statements that things do work in it that never worked before. But I can't see anything different in the documentation. I remember that, when I did have it working long ago, I didn't have to do anything in order to have it advertise its services and to have it actually serve files. My problems then were with serving a printer. Now I use CUPS for that. But I don't see my Macs picking up an advert. (They do pickup adverts from one of the Macs, so I know that they are listening.) So, my questions: Does anyone have netatalk 2.2.2-1 working under Wheezy? Can you point me to some debugging instructions? Or, can you lead me through some tests to discover what is going wrong? I posted this, below, a couple of days ago. I'm hoping to find someone who follows this list and who actually has netatalk v. 2.2.2-1 installed from the Debian package in Wheezy. I would very much like to get it working, but ... I can't. All the documentation that I can find is two or more years old, and does not pertain to the packaged version. P.S. Thanks Tom, but I need more than the fact that /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf once existed as part of an earlier version of the package. It may still be part of a properly configured netatalk, but it doesn't seem to be included in this package. Please bottom-post. You misunderstood. I said that I remember that the config files on Debian are /etc/default/netatalk and /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf. Perhaps I should've also said that I remember /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf to be the Fedora equivalent of /etc/default/netatalk. Thanks, Tom. I certainly did misunderstand, and calling it to my attention is much appreciated. I my defense, I note that the package does add to the man pages a page for netatalk.conf, and that man page does say it is located in /etc/netatalk/, which begs the question, What is a default? In other places than Debian, default behavior of a program is the way it behaves if there is not a configuration file. Live and learn. You're welcome. I was wondering whether a bug should be filed against the man page of netatalk.conf. Not having netatalk installed and feeling too lazy to instal it in a spare Vm, I googled the netatalk.conf Debian man page and landed on the project's original man page [1] and it has the following text: If netatalk has been configured with --enable-debian, it is not netatalk.conf but etc/default/netatalk. I don't quite understand what you mean by default behavior but in Debian, files in /etc/default are often used to control the behavior of init daemons. (In RHEL/Fedora, /etc/sysconfig is used so it's surprising that the maintainer didn't relocate /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf to /etc/sysconfig/netatalk. He/she could even convince upstream to add a --redhat compilation flag and a explanatory line in the man page!) AFAIK/AFAIR, it's /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf that's the more important file and someone posted an example for you so I hope you have netatalk running. 1. http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/2.2/htmldocs/netatalk.conf.5.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=swn7oaq9uay1npjo01sexdvxrufiw8bnhse4owqu2d...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Questions about Netatalk running on Debian server
On 20120508_210017, Gregory Seidman wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 11:09:37PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: [...] Does anyone have netatalk 2.2.2-1 working under Wheezy? Can you point me to some debugging instructions? Or, can you lead me through some tests to discover what is going wrong? I have netatalk that I built from wheezy src to run on my squeeze system. It is serving as a Time Capsule (i.e. network Time Machine backup volume) for two laptops running the latest MacOS X (10.7.3 Lion). I added the following line to /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf: - -transall -uamlist uams_dhx2.so -nosavepassword I added the following lines to /etc/netatalk/AppleVolumes.default (after commenting out the existing Home Directory line; replace x and y with usernames): ==snip= ~/ $u allow:x,y cnidscheme:dbd options:usedots,upriv,noadouble /mnt/timemachine/tm1 TimeMachine1 allow:y cnidscheme:dbd options:usedots,upriv,tm /mnt/timemachine/tm2 TimeMachine2 allow:x cnidscheme:dbd options:usedots,upriv,tm ==snip= Note that /mnt/timemachine/tm[12] are mountpoints for LVM partitions. I also had to touch .com.apple.timemachine.supported in each of the Time Machine mountpoints. I don't remember if I had to modify /etc/default/netatalk, but I have these two lines which make sure the right servers start: CNID_METAD_RUN=yes AFPD_RUN=yes DHX2 seems to be the right choice for UAM. Users connect with their unix usernames and passwords. None of the choices are tremendously secure. See the Authentication section of http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/2.2/htmldocs/configuration.html for details. Let me know if you have any further questions. Please help. Paul E Condon --Greg Thanks, Greg Unfortunately for this project, it has been push down on my things-to-do stack, by family problems. But this will surely help when I can get back to working on this. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120509143105.ga3...@big.lan.gnu
Re: Questions about Netatalk running on Debian server
On 20120509_012529, Tom H wrote: On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: On 20120506_230937, Paul E Condon wrote: I have a long and troubled relation to Netatalk. I live in a family where everyone else loves the Mac, and I have a need to communicate with them. I once had netatalk running on Debian back in 2004, I think, but lost that ability about the time my daughter bought her first MacBook in 2006. I'm revisiting the problem now using an i386 box running Wheezy. I've installed netatalk from a Debian repository and started looking at /usr/share/doc/netatalk and the looking for a man page. The .../doc/netatalk files all date from 2010 or earlier, which is well before the version of netatalk in Wheezy was released. There is not 'man netatalk', but there is a 'man netatalk.conf', and that page begins with: SYNOPSIS /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf But no such file was installed by the netatalk package, and I can find no mention of netatalk.conf at .../doc/netatalk/ According to Aptitude, the version of netatalk that I installed is 2.2.2-1. From searching the web, I pick up statements that things do work in it that never worked before. But I can't see anything different in the documentation. I remember that, when I did have it working long ago, I didn't have to do anything in order to have it advertise its services and to have it actually serve files. My problems then were with serving a printer. Now I use CUPS for that. But I don't see my Macs picking up an advert. (They do pickup adverts from one of the Macs, so I know that they are listening.) So, my questions: Does anyone have netatalk 2.2.2-1 working under Wheezy? Can you point me to some debugging instructions? Or, can you lead me through some tests to discover what is going wrong? I posted this, below, a couple of days ago. I'm hoping to find someone who follows this list and who actually has netatalk v. 2.2.2-1 installed from the Debian package in Wheezy. I would very much like to get it working, but ... I can't. All the documentation that I can find is two or more years old, and does not pertain to the packaged version. P.S. Thanks Tom, but I need more than the fact that /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf once existed as part of an earlier version of the package. It may still be part of a properly configured netatalk, but it doesn't seem to be included in this package. Please bottom-post. You misunderstood. I said that I remember that the config files on Debian are /etc/default/netatalk and /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf. Perhaps I should've also said that I remember /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf to be the Fedora equivalent of /etc/default/netatalk. Thanks, Tom. I certainly did misunderstand, and calling it to my attention is much appreciated. I my defense, I note that the package does add to the man pages a page for netatalk.conf, and that man page does say it is located in /etc/netatalk/, which begs the question, What is a default? In other places than Debian, default behavior of a program is the way it behaves if there is not a configuration file. Live and learn. Thanks. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120509145312.gb3...@big.lan.gnu
Re: Questions about Netatalk running on Debian server
I posted this, below, a couple of days ago. I'm hoping to find someone who follows this list and who actually has netatalk v. 2.2.2-1 installed from the Debian package in Wheezy. I would very much like to get it working, but ... I can't. All the documentation that I can find is two or more years old, and does not pertain to the packaged version. Surely someone is using this package. Please speak up. Paul P.S. Thanks Tom, but I need more than the fact that /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf once existed as part of an earlier version of the package. It may still be part of a properly configured netatalk, but it doesn't seem to be included in this package. On 20120506_230937, Paul E Condon wrote: I have a long and troubled relation to Netatalk. I live in a family where everyone else loves the Mac, and I have a need to communicate with them. I once had netatalk running on Debian back in 2004, I think, but lost that ability about the time my daughter bought her first MacBook in 2006. I'm revisiting the problem now using an i386 box running Wheezy. I've installed netatalk from a Debian repository and started looking at /usr/share/doc/netatalk and the looking for a man page. The .../doc/netatalk files all date from 2010 or earlier, which is well before the version of netatalk in Wheezy was released. There is not 'man netatalk', but there is a 'man netatalk.conf', and that page begins with: SYNOPSIS /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf But no such file was installed by the netatalk package, and I can find no mention of netatalk.conf at .../doc/netatalk/ According to Aptitude, the version of netatalk that I installed is 2.2.2-1. From searching the web, I pick up statements that things do work in it that never worked before. But I can't see anything different in the documentation. I remember that, when I did have it working long ago, I didn't have to do anything in order to have it advertise its services and to have it actually serve files. My problems then were with serving a printer. Now I use CUPS for that. But I don't see my Macs picking up an advert. (They do pickup adverts from one of the Macs, so I know that they are listening.) So, my questions: Does anyone have netatalk 2.2.2-1 working under Wheezy? Can you point me to some debugging instructions? Or, can you lead me through some tests to discover what is going wrong? Please help. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120507050937.gb29...@big.lan.gnu -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120508211434.ga31...@big.lan.gnu
Re: Questions about Netatalk running on Debian server
Le 08/05/2012 23:14, Paul E Condon a écrit : I posted this, below, a couple of days ago. I'm hoping to find someone who follows this list and who actually has netatalk v. 2.2.2-1 installed from the Debian package in Wheezy. I would very much like to get it working, but ... I can't. All the documentation that I can find is two or more years old, and does not pertain to the packaged version. Surely someone is using this package. Please speak up. Paul Sorry, I used netatalk a lot at work. But since Mac OSX supports Samba shares, I don't use it anymore. So... I can't help you... [...] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fa9aa02.8090...@nuagelibre.org
Re: Questions about Netatalk running on Debian server
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 11:09:37PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: [...] Does anyone have netatalk 2.2.2-1 working under Wheezy? Can you point me to some debugging instructions? Or, can you lead me through some tests to discover what is going wrong? I have netatalk that I built from wheezy src to run on my squeeze system. It is serving as a Time Capsule (i.e. network Time Machine backup volume) for two laptops running the latest MacOS X (10.7.3 Lion). I added the following line to /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf: - -transall -uamlist uams_dhx2.so -nosavepassword I added the following lines to /etc/netatalk/AppleVolumes.default (after commenting out the existing Home Directory line; replace x and y with usernames): ==snip= ~/ $u allow:x,y cnidscheme:dbd options:usedots,upriv,noadouble /mnt/timemachine/tm1 TimeMachine1 allow:y cnidscheme:dbd options:usedots,upriv,tm /mnt/timemachine/tm2 TimeMachine2 allow:x cnidscheme:dbd options:usedots,upriv,tm ==snip= Note that /mnt/timemachine/tm[12] are mountpoints for LVM partitions. I also had to touch .com.apple.timemachine.supported in each of the Time Machine mountpoints. I don't remember if I had to modify /etc/default/netatalk, but I have these two lines which make sure the right servers start: CNID_METAD_RUN=yes AFPD_RUN=yes DHX2 seems to be the right choice for UAM. Users connect with their unix usernames and passwords. None of the choices are tremendously secure. See the Authentication section of http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/2.2/htmldocs/configuration.html for details. Let me know if you have any further questions. Please help. Paul E Condon --Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120509010017.ga17...@anthropohedron.net
Re: Questions about Netatalk running on Debian server
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Gilles Mocellin gilles.mocel...@nuagelibre.org wrote: Le 08/05/2012 23:14, Paul E Condon a écrit : I posted this, below, a couple of days ago. I'm hoping to find someone who follows this list and who actually has netatalk v. 2.2.2-1 installed from the Debian package in Wheezy. I would very much like to get it working, but ... I can't. All the documentation that I can find is two or more years old, and does not pertain to the packaged version. Surely someone is using this package. Please speak up. Paul Sorry, I used netatalk a lot at work. But since Mac OSX supports Samba shares, I don't use it anymore. So... I can't help you... [...] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fa9aa02.8090...@nuagelibre.org Have tried this documentation from the projects website: http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/2.2/htmldocs/ -- Mathew E. Enders Where once Samba and Apache sold Linux to the world they are now just part of the plumbing. But that's OK, plumbers make good money. --Jeremy Allison -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cao+61wif8kylm95y4eg+daf83skbzu-0qbzq-cq9gyriple...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Questions about Netatalk running on Debian server
On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: On 20120506_230937, Paul E Condon wrote: I have a long and troubled relation to Netatalk. I live in a family where everyone else loves the Mac, and I have a need to communicate with them. I once had netatalk running on Debian back in 2004, I think, but lost that ability about the time my daughter bought her first MacBook in 2006. I'm revisiting the problem now using an i386 box running Wheezy. I've installed netatalk from a Debian repository and started looking at /usr/share/doc/netatalk and the looking for a man page. The .../doc/netatalk files all date from 2010 or earlier, which is well before the version of netatalk in Wheezy was released. There is not 'man netatalk', but there is a 'man netatalk.conf', and that page begins with: SYNOPSIS /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf But no such file was installed by the netatalk package, and I can find no mention of netatalk.conf at .../doc/netatalk/ According to Aptitude, the version of netatalk that I installed is 2.2.2-1. From searching the web, I pick up statements that things do work in it that never worked before. But I can't see anything different in the documentation. I remember that, when I did have it working long ago, I didn't have to do anything in order to have it advertise its services and to have it actually serve files. My problems then were with serving a printer. Now I use CUPS for that. But I don't see my Macs picking up an advert. (They do pickup adverts from one of the Macs, so I know that they are listening.) So, my questions: Does anyone have netatalk 2.2.2-1 working under Wheezy? Can you point me to some debugging instructions? Or, can you lead me through some tests to discover what is going wrong? I posted this, below, a couple of days ago. I'm hoping to find someone who follows this list and who actually has netatalk v. 2.2.2-1 installed from the Debian package in Wheezy. I would very much like to get it working, but ... I can't. All the documentation that I can find is two or more years old, and does not pertain to the packaged version. P.S. Thanks Tom, but I need more than the fact that /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf once existed as part of an earlier version of the package. It may still be part of a properly configured netatalk, but it doesn't seem to be included in this package. Please bottom-post. You misunderstood. I said that I remember that the config files on Debian are /etc/default/netatalk and /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf. Perhaps I should've also said that I remember /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf to be the Fedora equivalent of /etc/default/netatalk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=szmpgbz1ghyzxpmpmv+taozhrmxwj9obrlgekx7pzz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Questions about Netatalk running on Debian server
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: I have a long and troubled relation to Netatalk. I live in a family where everyone else loves the Mac, and I have a need to communicate with them. I once had netatalk running on Debian back in 2004, I think, but lost that ability about the time my daughter bought her first MacBook in 2006. I'm revisiting the problem now using an i386 box running Wheezy. I've installed netatalk from a Debian repository and started looking at /usr/share/doc/netatalk and the looking for a man page. The .../doc/netatalk files all date from 2010 or earlier, which is well before the version of netatalk in Wheezy was released. There is not 'man netatalk', but there is a 'man netatalk.conf', and that page begins with: SYNOPSIS /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf But no such file was installed by the netatalk package, and I can find no mention of netatalk.conf at .../doc/netatalk/ I haven't used netatalk for a long time but I remember /etc/default/netatalk and /etc/netatalk/afpd.conf. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SxLK9P9713EcFP5=zujd7vpf0tc3t6qqrdchcss9hm...@mail.gmail.com
Questions about Netatalk running on Debian server
I have a long and troubled relation to Netatalk. I live in a family where everyone else loves the Mac, and I have a need to communicate with them. I once had netatalk running on Debian back in 2004, I think, but lost that ability about the time my daughter bought her first MacBook in 2006. I'm revisiting the problem now using an i386 box running Wheezy. I've installed netatalk from a Debian repository and started looking at /usr/share/doc/netatalk and the looking for a man page. The .../doc/netatalk files all date from 2010 or earlier, which is well before the version of netatalk in Wheezy was released. There is not 'man netatalk', but there is a 'man netatalk.conf', and that page begins with: SYNOPSIS /etc/netatalk/netatalk.conf But no such file was installed by the netatalk package, and I can find no mention of netatalk.conf at .../doc/netatalk/ According to Aptitude, the version of netatalk that I installed is 2.2.2-1. From searching the web, I pick up statements that things do work in it that never worked before. But I can't see anything different in the documentation. I remember that, when I did have it working long ago, I didn't have to do anything in order to have it advertise its services and to have it actually serve files. My problems then were with serving a printer. Now I use CUPS for that. But I don't see my Macs picking up an advert. (They do pickup adverts from one of the Macs, so I know that they are listening.) So, my questions: Does anyone have netatalk 2.2.2-1 working under Wheezy? Can you point me to some debugging instructions? Or, can you lead me through some tests to discover what is going wrong? Please help. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120507050937.gb29...@big.lan.gnu
