Re: How do you LOW FORMAT a hard drive

1999-09-14 Thread shaul
If you really must do low level formating and the disk is WD then there used 
to be an appropriate tool (wd_diag.exe) on their www pages. This tool will 
also tell you if low level formating might help.

 On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Patrik Magnusson wrote:
 
   I need to Low Format a hard drive - I have a drive that has at some stage
  Some BIOSes lets you do this.
 
 But you shouldn't ever low level format a hard drive.  It isn't necessary
 any more since the 80's.  If you have a drive (ESPECIALLY an IDE drive)
 that can't simply be repartitioned with fdisk and formatted normally it's
 probably ruined.
 



RE: How do you LOW FORMAT a hard drive

1999-09-14 Thread Mike Barton

Actually, low formatting most SCSI drives is useful since it tests the drive
and updates the dud sector map with the results. SCSI and IDE drives that
would be damaged in some way by low formatting *usually* return success with
out doing anything when asked to do a low level format. IOW, hard drives are
very smart now-a-days. Formatting a floppy drive IS a low level format
combined with writing out the FAT for DOS.

-Original Message-
From: Guilherme Soares Zahn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 9:18 AM
To: William T Wilson
Cc: Patrik Magnusson; debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How do you LOW FORMAT a hard drive


   I need to Low Format a hard drive - I have a drive that has at some
stage
  Some BIOSes lets you do this.

 But you shouldn't ever low level format a hard drive.  It isn't necessary
 any more since the 80's.

More that that, it's REALLY dangerous to do so in new IDE drives (something
to do
with geometry parameters, if I'm not mistaken)...

Now, how would I LOW FORMAT a floppy disk???

[]'s

Guilherme Zahn


Re: How do you LOW FORMAT a hard drive

1999-09-13 Thread Guilherme Soares Zahn
   I need to Low Format a hard drive - I have a drive that has at some stage
  Some BIOSes lets you do this.

 But you shouldn't ever low level format a hard drive.  It isn't necessary
 any more since the 80's.

More that that, it's REALLY dangerous to do so in new IDE drives (something to 
do
with geometry parameters, if I'm not mistaken)...

Now, how would I LOW FORMAT a floppy disk???

[]'s

Guilherme Zahn


Re: How do you LOW FORMAT a hard drive

1999-09-13 Thread Richard E. Hawkins

Guilherme grunted,

  But you shouldn't ever low level format a hard drive.  It isn't necessary
  any more since the 80's.

 More that that, it's REALLY dangerous to do so in new IDE drives (something 
 to do
 with geometry parameters, if I'm not mistaken)...

I have an old one I'd like to try it on, but the bios doesn't do it.  I 
stuck it in another machine briefly, and now it absolutely refuses to 
work as a primary (but is just fine as a slave).  It's an old caviar 
540 for the kids' machine.  Right now they have my machine, because 
that machine can't boot from the slave (or even use it without a 
primary present), nor can it recognize more than 1024 cylinders (or use 
the alternate modes).  So it sees my 8g drive as a 540 or so :(  I 
noticed the box on a new 20G at sam's club yesterday claimed it had 
software to get around old bios's, but I'm not willing to pay $250 just 
to get an old 486 running (the kids' stuff is almost all windows, so I 
have to deal with bios problems :(

rick


 Now, how would I LOW FORMAT a floppy disk???

That should happen on a regular formatk, shouldn't it?  (the current command is 
superformat)
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Re: How do you LOW FORMAT a hard drive

1999-09-13 Thread Simon Martin
As far as I can remember the old fixed disk controller used to be installed
at paragraph C800:. To do a low level format we used to use the debug
facility in DOS and do g C800:0005. I may be wrong, but this was 1986 on IBM
PS/2s using 20MB hard disks, but a lot of legacy stuff seems to have pulled
through

- Original Message -
From: Richard E. Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Guilherme Soares Zahn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: 13 September 1999 14:18
Subject: Re: How do you LOW FORMAT a hard drive



 Guilherme grunted,

   But you shouldn't ever low level format a hard drive.  It isn't
necessary
   any more since the 80's.

  More that that, it's REALLY dangerous to do so in new IDE drives
(something to do
  with geometry parameters, if I'm not mistaken)...

 I have an old one I'd like to try it on, but the bios doesn't do it.  I
 stuck it in another machine briefly, and now it absolutely refuses to
 work as a primary (but is just fine as a slave).  It's an old caviar
 540 for the kids' machine.  Right now they have my machine, because
 that machine can't boot from the slave (or even use it without a
 primary present), nor can it recognize more than 1024 cylinders (or use
 the alternate modes).  So it sees my 8g drive as a 540 or so :(  I
 noticed the box on a new 20G at sam's club yesterday claimed it had
 software to get around old bios's, but I'm not willing to pay $250 just
 to get an old 486 running (the kids' stuff is almost all windows, so I
 have to deal with bios problems :(

 rick


  Now, how would I LOW FORMAT a floppy disk???

 That should happen on a regular formatk, shouldn't it?  (the current
command is superformat)
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Re: How do you LOW FORMAT a hard drive

1999-09-13 Thread Richard E. Hawkins

thanks, I'll give this a try.  I'd sure like to avoid buying the disk 
if possible.

Rick

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Re: How do you LOW FORMAT a hard drive

1999-09-13 Thread Ian Zimmerman
 Guilherme == Guilherme Soares Zahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Guilherme Now, how would I LOW FORMAT a floppy disk???

superformat

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Lightbinders, Inc.
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Re: How do you LOW FORMAT a hard drive

1999-09-13 Thread Alvin Oga

hi

 Now, how would I LOW FORMAT a floppy disk???

fdformat /dev/fd0H1440

or stick the floppy into a dos machine ( not winXX )

have fun
alvin


Re: How do you LOW FORMAT a hard drive

1999-09-11 Thread Patrik Magnusson
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Derek Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I need to Low Format a hard drive - I have a drive that has at some stage
Some BIOSes lets you do this.

/Patrik 


Re: How do you LOW FORMAT a hard drive

1999-09-11 Thread William T Wilson
On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Patrik Magnusson wrote:

  I need to Low Format a hard drive - I have a drive that has at some stage
 Some BIOSes lets you do this.

But you shouldn't ever low level format a hard drive.  It isn't necessary
any more since the 80's.  If you have a drive (ESPECIALLY an IDE drive)
that can't simply be repartitioned with fdisk and formatted normally it's
probably ruined.