Re: Recommended Partitioning
On Tue, Sep 19, 2000 at 03:36:10PM +0200, Julio Merino ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 08:32:48PM -0400, Rob wrote: Hey, im about to install deb2.2, can anyone recommend a specific partitioning scheme? Like if im willing to allocate 20 gigs. I figured id just do 128 for /swap, and the rest to /, but ive had friends tell me they do other partitions like /boot, /user, and /home. What do you guys recommend ? Also, im dual booting next to win2k(dont flame my, I have to do 3d rendering), will I need to make a special boot partition for LILO? I've heard something about /mbr which I dont understand. Will someone clarify this stuff for me? Thanks! Some days ago we discussed something like this about me... I have bought a 20 GB disk and at last done the partitions as follow: Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda2 202226 19644172140 10% / /dev/hda5 49782917472110 0% /tmp /dev/hda6 1011928 30252930272 3% /var /dev/hda7 5044156236828 4551096 5% /usr /dev/hda8 3028080157432 2716828 5% /usr/local /dev/hda10 1011928 10612949912 1% /home /dev/hda11 5653028305180 5060688 6% /misc Also /dev/hda1 is a 3 GB disk for kk95 (games) and /dev/hda9 is a 200 MB swap partition. Interesting, but IMO wasteful. You're utilizing less than 20 MB of your 200 MB root partition. /tmp is far larger than I've ever needed, though this could change -- I typically use about 50-90% of my 300 MB /var. You're using 5% of /usr -- 236 MB of 5 GB, and 5% of /usr/local (157 MB of 3 GB). Then there's that /misc partition. Suppose you went with something more like: PartitionAllocated Used% Used Mounted -- /dev/hda240 MB 19 MB 48% / /dev/hda5 100 MB 0 MB 0% /tmp /dev/hda6 1,000 MB 30 MB 3% /var /dev/hda7 2,000 MB236 MB 12% /usr /dev/hda8 2,000 MB157 MB 8% /usr/local /dev/hda10 11,360 MB 10 MB 0% /home -- total16,500 MB == This should give you room to grow in /usr and /usr/local (up /usr by a GB if you think you'll need it), and gives you a nice, fat, unbroken 11.36 GB in /home to stash your pr0n, MP3s and stuff g. It's like buying an additional 8 GB of disk, for free. We've gotten rid of /misc. My own utilization on a fairly mature (eg: stable) system. /usr is a bit tight for my preferences, and I wish I could put /usr/doc and /usr/src under it. Maybe next time I do a disk reorg. Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/root 152247 44522 99863 31% / /dev/sdb5 101089 3468 92402 4% /tmp /dev/sdb6 303344162252125431 57% /var /dev/hda5 495960 32092438268 7% /var/spool/news /dev/sda5 1209572 1070996 77132 94% /usr /dev/sdb7 1517920 1244852195960 87% /usr/local /dev/hda8 253775160442 80231 67% /usr/doc /dev/hda6 249871167565 69406 71% /usr/src /dev/sda7 585008385704169588 70% /home -- Karsten M. Self kmself@ix.netcom.com http://www.netcom.com/~kmself Evangelist, Opensales, Inc.http://www.opensales.org What part of Gestalt don't you understand? Debian GNU/Linux rocks! http://gestalt-system.sourceforge.net/K5: http://www.kuro5hin.org GPG fingerprint: F932 8B25 5FDD 2528 D595 DC61 3847 889F 55F2 B9B0 pgpqE41tgUbtC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Recommended Partitioning
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 08:32:48PM -0400, Rob wrote: Hey, im about to install deb2.2, can anyone recommend a specific partitioning scheme? Like if im willing to allocate 20 gigs. I figured id just do 128 for /swap, and the rest to /, but ive had friends tell me they do other partitions like /boot, /user, and /home. What do you guys recommend ? Also, im dual booting next to win2k(dont flame my, I have to do 3d rendering), will I need to make a special boot partition for LILO? I've heard something about /mbr which I dont understand. Will someone clarify this stuff for me? Thanks! Some days ago we discussed something like this about me... I have bought a 20 GB disk and at last done the partitions as follow: Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda2 202226 19644172140 10% / /dev/hda5 49782917472110 0% /tmp /dev/hda6 1011928 30252930272 3% /var /dev/hda7 5044156236828 4551096 5% /usr /dev/hda8 3028080157432 2716828 5% /usr/local /dev/hda10 1011928 10612949912 1% /home /dev/hda11 5653028305180 5060688 6% /misc Also /dev/hda1 is a 3 GB disk for kk95 (games) and /dev/hda9 is a 200 MB swap partition. HTH Julio. _thaReF -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Recommended Partitioning
hi ya rob... the simple ones firstassumming you'd be using win2k and autocad... i'd try something like 8G-10G for win2k. as the first partition /dev/hda1 aka c: rest is up to linuxetc and if yu think you might want to boot debian and redhat and mandrake or something else each needs about 2G-3G of space... for my silly reasons...i usually do: ( c: ) 2Gb if any WinXX stuff / 64M /tmp128M /var256M or 512M for big(ger) web/email servers /usr2Gb and/or move /usr/local to /home/local /home rest of disk - or about 1G of user space swapswap space is 2x physical memory... i tend to only backup /home and /etc.rest is already on cdrom except if you might want to backup ( tsk tsk ) peoples unread emails in /var/spool/mail. and if you want webstats...put um in /home/httpd/logs or some user defined placenot system to me...there is no reason to separate /boot and / since both is needed to boot...and also to lilo for dual(n) booting if redhat crashes while / and /boot is mounted from the other partitions... you lose both partitions...or at least the time for e2fsck / and /bootinstead of just one ( assuming /boot is smallits nothing to worry about ( in either case c ya alvin On Sun, 17 Sep 2000, Rob wrote: Hey, im about to install deb2.2, can anyone recommend a specific partitioning scheme? Like if im willing to allocate 20 gigs. I figured id just do 128 for /swap, and the rest to /, but ive had friends tell me they do other partitions like /boot, /user, and /home. What do you guys recommend ? Also, im dual booting next to win2k(dont flame my, I have to do 3d rendering), will I need to make a special boot partition for LILO? I've heard something about /mbr which I dont understand. Will someone clarify this stuff for me? Thanks! _thaReF -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Recommended Partitioning
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 08:32:48PM -0400, Rob wrote: Hey, im about to install deb2.2, can anyone recommend a specific partitioning scheme? I would do the following: /boot /dev/hda1 - primary 10 MB win2k /dev/hda2 - primary 1.5 GB / 2.0 GB (for growth) /var1.0 GB (or 2.0) for debian packages + spare space (you can make it smaller) /usr/local 1.0 GB (depends on how many custom packages/.tar.gz you expect to install) symlink /opt to /usr/local /swap 128 MB /home and the win2k data partition, share whatever you have left (i.e 50% to win2k and 50% to debian, or whatever). Also, im dual booting next to win2k(dont flame my, I have to do 3d rendering), will I need to make a special boot partition for LILO? I've heard something about /mbr which I dont understand. I think there is an HOWTO for it. WinNT+Linux HOWTO I think. Check your lists of HOWTO (I think it's one of the mini HOWTOs). -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 # I'm subscribed to this list, no need to cc: ## pgpSECQ7nF4aw.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Recommended Partitioning
I have Win2K and Debian at home, (excuse: my day job is developing in MS env. Yuch) For my MS stuff I keep a 1.5G for system and programs, 250M for swap and a 1G FAT32 for files - NTFS is notoriously incompatible so I prefer FAT32 for personal stuff. Speed is only really an issue with loading apps anyhow. I also kept the Win98 that came in the box, and use Partition Magic and Boot Magic with that. Guests can use Win98 for surfing, stops them breaking anything. I have BootMagic pointing to my / Debian which is also where LILO is loaded, ie not on the MBR. HDA MBR: BootMagic Win98 (contains boot menu for 98 and 2000) 1G / 250MB Linux swap 128M (should be 256 really I think) Win2K 1.5G Win2Kswap 250M HDB /usr 2G /home 4G userFAT32 1G and some system backups. Loads of space left over, (HDB=20G) and is quite flexible, if I want to try a new dist I keep the MBR and /home and everything works OK. Tim Anderson Hey, im about to install deb2.2, can anyone recommend a specific partitioning scheme? Like if im willing to allocate 20 gigs. I figured id just do 128 for /swap, and the rest to /, but ive had friends tell me they do other partitions like /boot, /user, and /home. What do you guys recommend ? Also, im dual booting next to win2k(dont flame my, I have to do 3d rendering), will I need to make a special boot partition for LILO? I've heard something about /mbr which I dont understand. Will someone clarify this stuff for me? Thanks! _thaReF -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Recommended Partitioning
On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 08:32:48PM -0400, Rob wrote: Hey, im about to install deb2.2, can anyone recommend a specific partitioning scheme? Like if im willing to allocate 20 gigs. I figured id just do 128 for /swap, and the rest to /, but ive had friends tell me they do other partitions like /boot, /user, and /home. What do you guys recommend ? Also, im dual booting next to win2k(dont flame my, I have to do 3d rendering), will I need to make a special boot partition for LILO? I've heard something about /mbr which I dont understand. Will someone clarify this stuff for me? Thanks! here's a place to look -- try the Multi-Disk-HOWTO. http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Multi-Disk-HOWTO.html implementation is the specific chapter you're after, i think, but there's lots-o-goodies and significant background info throughout.
RE: recommended partitioning
Hi Jeff, I would try a simple approach. You only need two partitions, root and swap. If I remember correctly, swap should be equal to installed memory. 32MB RAM means 32MB swap. Use the rest for the root partition. I assigned root first, then swap as the last partition. You could partition using a more complicated scheme, I.e. partitions for /var or /usr or /home. I just don't see the need. Make life easy. With 408MB to work with, you might end up wishing you had more room on another partition if you allocate too much to one partition. Allocating it all to root lets the directories that need it, use it. PS. If you have any computer shows around you, you can often pick up 1-2GB drives for $30-$50 bucks. This probably won't matter unless you want to install everything. paul -Original Message- From: jh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 11:47 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: recommended partitioning Hi. If there is anyone out there, I am trying to install debian and wondered what would be a good partition scheme for a 408MB drive. It will be running solo debian. Thanks so much Jeff -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: recommended partitioning
A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far way, someone said... Hi Jeff, I would try a simple approach. You only need two partitions, root and swap. If I remember correctly, swap should be equal to installed memory. 32MB RAM means 32MB swap. Use the rest for the root partition. I assigned root first, then swap as the last partition. I think I should add that it might be better if swap is at the beginning of the drive - date tends to get read from the beginning of the drive that from the end. That would be a definite plus if you have a limited amount of memory. -- -- Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are two things that are infinite; Human stupidity and the universe. And I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
RE: recommended partitioning
Hi. If there is anyone out there, I am trying to install debian and wondered what would be a good partition scheme for a 408MB drive. It will be running solo debian. Thanks so much Jeff Jeff, I know you've received at least one reply, but let me put in my 1.575128 Euro's worth. With 408M, you'll find it a little tight, depending on what you install. The general rule for swap used to be twice your RAM, but that was when RAM was expensive and swap schemes worked differently. It is hard to get a good answer for swap space now, but I have 64M RAM and 64M swap. For the other partitions, / ROOT doesn't need a lot of space. If you read the FHS, File System Hierarchy System, it will give lots of info for which partitions should be mounted Read-only and which should be Read/Write. I wish I had read this before I'd partitioned, but we all learn as we go. The most important reason for separate partitions is to protect the different directories. I made / small, /usr rather big and /home even bigger. This saved me when a StarOffice installation went horribly wrong. I had to re-install from the boot disk and re-initialise my / and /usr partitions. The stuff in /home was still there. I'm still new, and learning all the time. As I read more about the FHS, I'm looking into re-partitioning my system for even more protection. Again, with only 408M to work with, you want to be very frugal. So, here's the suggestions, open to comments; Swap: The more you run, the more virtual memory your system will need. If you want to run X and Netscape or compile lots of stuff, don't compromise. Otherwise, don't waste the space. / ROOT: this take very little room, so make it small. BUT, make sure you have other partitions for the rest of your system. /home: This is where you will probably keep personal files. This is also where most computer get hung from full file systems. As long as / is on a separate partition, you can still log in as root and remove some stuff to get back in. /usr: This is where most of the app's end up, somewhere. So you want to be sure you have enough for what you want and what you may look for in the future. /var: This is where the system keeps changing info, I.E. variable. Mostly logs and spools for mail or printing. This is another culprit for wasted space. Keeping it on a separate partition will keep a full /var from locking up the system completely. There are lots of other ways to 'Cut the cake'. Have a read through the FHS for a good idea of where different things are kept, and have a look at just how much you want to put on the system to get a good partitioning scheme. Re-partitioning is a pain, so it's better to get it right than to decide you want to change it later. Also, having several partitions will make it easier to move thing around when you add hard drives to your system. This is just some of the info I've picked up since I started learning Linux just over a year ago. I'm sure there is lots of room for comments and corrections. Cheers, John Gay
