Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 16 September 2015 17:53:41 Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Now, out of the blue, an original post of mine gets mirrored back to > > me. Don't know what caused it. I didn't do anything. Gremlins, > > maybe. > > :-)) The red highlighting of spelling mistakes suddenly started to > work in my email client. I did nothing new. Thank you gremlins. ;-) Never stopped working here even in claws mail. Also, have to send a new post to see if my previous post being mirrored back was not a fluke. B
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On 09/16/2015 01:53 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > About two years ago, my original posts to the list stopped being > > mirrored back to me. This happened spontaneously: one day I'd see > > my post; the next day -- literally -- I didn't. (Replies to > > others' posts showed up as they should.) Never could figure out > > why. > > This is (or was) a "feature" of gmail - since the email is in the Sent > folder, it does not reappear in the Inbox when the mailing list copy > is received. The problem started under Yahoo mail. I switched to a gmail address, but that didn't fix it. > > Now, out of the blue, an original post of mine gets mirrored back to > > me. Don't know what caused it. I didn't do anything. Gremlins, > > maybe. > > I have no idea why, maybe gmail's behavior changed. Gmail's been making lots of changes. Can't say they are good ones. I don't use the browser interface, but IMAP with claws mail client. B
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
On Wed, 2015-09-16 at 10:00 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > It's a minimal HAL to satisfy the DRM in Flash. > > Thanks. I'll check it out. Maybe, I can adapt it to Wheezy. Or at > least find out what's needs to be installed to get Hulu to work. Yeah, I don't know what shape it's in, but it's probably easier to use as a workaround than to shoehorn the full hal in. Best would be if someone would properly maintain it for Debian of course. If it's needed at all, according to this, just cleaning the flash cache was enough to get Amazon working. No idea if it works for Hulu too? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660521 -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
On 09/16/2015 01:53 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > About two years ago, my original posts to the list stopped being > mirrored back to me. This happened spontaneously: one day I'd see my > post; the next day -- literally -- I didn't. (Replies to others' posts > showed up as they should.) Never could figure out why. This is (or was) a "feature" of gmail - since the email is in the Sent folder, it does not reappear in the Inbox when the mailing list copy is received. > Now, out of the blue, an original post of mine gets mirrored back to > me. Don't know what caused it. I didn't do anything. Gremlins, maybe. I have no idea why, maybe gmail's behavior changed. -- 'Martyrdom' is the only way a person can become famous without ability. -- George Bernard Shaw Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
On Wednesday 16 September 2015 17:53:41 Patrick Bartek wrote: > Now, out of the blue, an original post of mine gets mirrored back to > me. Don't know what caused it. I didn't do anything. Gremlins, maybe. :-)) The red highlighting of spelling mistakes suddenly started to work in my email client. I did nothing new. Thank you gremlins. ;-) Lisi
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Tue, 2015-09-15 at 19:17 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Yes, I know. HAL has been deprecated in Debian in favor of udev for > > about 3 or 4 years. But other distros like Ubuntu and Mint still > > use it. > > No, it was removed from Ubuntu in trusty AFAICT. All I know is that both Ubuntu and Mint play Hulu stuff. Both were specifically mentioned by Hulu as compatible. However, both run too slow in virtualbox to be used. Others have this same slowness problem regardless of the host OS. > Looks like Mint is or was shipping this: > https://github.com/cshorler/hal-flash > > It's a minimal HAL to satisfy the DRM in Flash. Thanks. I'll check it out. Maybe, I can adapt it to Wheezy. Or at least find out what's needs to be installed to get Hulu to work. B
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 16 September 2015 02:59:27 Patrick Bartek wrote: > > Wow! My original post. First time that's happened in two years. > > And I didn't do anything. Wonder what happened? > > What do you mean? About two years ago, my original posts to the list stopped being mirrored back to me. This happened spontaneously: one day I'd see my post; the next day -- literally -- I didn't. (Replies to others' posts showed up as they should.) Never could figure out why. Nor could anyone on the mail list. I even went so far as to close out my subscription under the original email address, and resubscribe with a new address from a different provider. No joy. Same behavior. Now, out of the blue, an original post of mine gets mirrored back to me. Don't know what caused it. I didn't do anything. Gremlins, maybe. B
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
On Tue, 2015-09-15 at 19:17 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > Yes, I know. HAL has been deprecated in Debian in favor of udev for > about 3 or 4 years. But other distros like Ubuntu and Mint still use > it. No, it was removed from Ubuntu in trusty AFAICT. Looks like Mint is or was shipping this: https://github.com/cshorler/hal-flash It's a minimal HAL to satisfy the DRM in Flash. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
On Wednesday 16 September 2015 02:59:27 Patrick Bartek wrote: > Wow! My original post. First time that's happened in two years. And > I didn't do anything. Wonder what happened? What do you mean? Lisi
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 15 September 2015 22:43:38 Bartek wrote: > > My system is custom: 64-bit Wheezy, no desktop, just Openbox WM > > and LXPanel, and udev. > > > > Wondering if installing HAL as Hulu suggested would cause problems? > > I am running Wheezy 64 bit with both HAL and udev, and have been > doing since I first upgraded form Squeeze to Wheezy. Are both daemons running? From what I understand, Hulu only needs the hal libraries to authenticate. Hal doesn't have to be running. We'll see. Going to install hal and turn off its daemon if running and see what happens. B
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015, Bob Weber wrote: > I installed hal from debian in a vm with debian testing amd64. > Chrome beta no go with some error code. Won't even start hald. > Iceweasel plays the splash screen and looks like it wants to play the > program but the screen stays blank. Hald is running. I can move the > mouse along the timeline and see previews but no more. I have found > that the 3 main networks will play in chrome beta without hal in my > desktop amd64 testing system. > > *...Bob* Thanks for the info. But I have no immediate plans to dist-upgrade Wheezy to anything else. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. And it ain't. ;-) B > On 09/15/2015 05:43 PM, Bartek wrote: > > Still searching for a fix to stream TV via Hulu. Worked fine with > > Chrome/pepperflash and Iceweasal/flash until about mid-July, around > > the release time of Windows 10. Hulu indicates that with Linux, HAL > > is needed. My system is custom: 64-bit Wheezy, no desktop, just > > Openbox WM and LXPanel, and udev. > > > > Wondering if installing HAL as Hulu suggested would cause problems? > > I have doubts that it will work anyway. > > > > Any advice or fixes appreciated. > > > > Thanks. > > > > B > > > > >
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
On Wed, 16 Sep 2015, Jerome BENOIT wrote: > Hi, > > On 15/09/15 23:43, Bartek wrote: > > Still searching for a fix to stream TV via Hulu. Worked fine with > > Chrome/pepperflash and Iceweasal/flash until about mid-July, around > > the release time of Windows 10. Hulu indicates that with Linux, HAL > > is needed. My system is custom: 64-bit Wheezy, no desktop, just > > Openbox WM and LXPanel, and udev. > > > > Wondering if installing HAL as Hulu suggested would cause problems? > > I have doubts that it will work anyway. > > > > Any advice or fixes appreciated. > > > > My understanding is that HAL was ejected from Debian a long time ago. > It was getting a huge bubble machine. > I would look for alternative. Yes, I know. HAL has been deprecated in Debian in favor of udev for about 3 or 4 years. But other distros like Ubuntu and Mint still use it. As far as I can tell Hulu running on Linux NEEDS some hal libraries to play the videos now. I don't know which one or ones. Prior to mid-July, everything worked fine on my system without any hal stuff. Unfortunately, there is no real alternative other than running Windows in a VM to stream Hulu content. FWIW, I installed PCLinusOS 32-bit which still uses hal (LXDE desktop) in a VM, and Hulu works just fine in Firefox. So there's hope yet. Tried to test Chrome,but the install had problems. And PCLOS didn't run well. Slow and jerky. However, if hal doesn't conflict with anything on my system -- the hal daemon doesn't need to be running, only the libraries are needed by Hulu -- then I may just install it and see what happens. Thanks for your reply. B
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015, Bartek wrote: > Still searching for a fix to stream TV via Hulu. Worked fine with > Chrome/pepperflash and Iceweasal/flash until about mid-July, around > the release time of Windows 10. Hulu indicates that with Linux, HAL is > needed. My system is custom: 64-bit Wheezy, no desktop, just Openbox > WM and LXPanel, and udev. > > Wondering if installing HAL as Hulu suggested would cause problems? I > have doubts that it will work anyway. > > Any advice or fixes appreciated. > > Thanks. > > B > Wow! My original post. First time that's happened in two years. And I didn't do anything. Wonder what happened? B
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
Hi, On 15/09/15 23:43, Bartek wrote: > Still searching for a fix to stream TV via Hulu. Worked fine with > Chrome/pepperflash and Iceweasal/flash until about mid-July, around the > release time of Windows 10. Hulu indicates that with Linux, HAL is > needed. My system is custom: 64-bit Wheezy, no desktop, just Openbox WM > and LXPanel, and udev. > > Wondering if installing HAL as Hulu suggested would cause problems? I > have doubts that it will work anyway. > > Any advice or fixes appreciated. > My understanding is that HAL was ejected from Debian a long time ago. It was getting a huge bubble machine. I would look for alternative. hth, Jerome > Thanks. > > B >
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
I installed hal from debian in a vm with debian testing amd64. Chrome beta no go with some error code. Won't even start hald. Iceweasel plays the splash screen and looks like it wants to play the program but the screen stays blank. Hald is running. I can move the mouse along the timeline and see previews but no more. I have found that the 3 main networks will play in chrome beta without hal in my desktop amd64 testing system. *...Bob* On 09/15/2015 05:43 PM, Bartek wrote: > Still searching for a fix to stream TV via Hulu. Worked fine with > Chrome/pepperflash and Iceweasal/flash until about mid-July, around the > release time of Windows 10. Hulu indicates that with Linux, HAL is > needed. My system is custom: 64-bit Wheezy, no desktop, just Openbox WM > and LXPanel, and udev. > > Wondering if installing HAL as Hulu suggested would cause problems? I > have doubts that it will work anyway. > > Any advice or fixes appreciated. > > Thanks. > > B > >
Re: Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
On Tuesday 15 September 2015 22:43:38 Bartek wrote: > My system is custom: 64-bit Wheezy, no desktop, just Openbox WM > and LXPanel, and udev. > > Wondering if installing HAL as Hulu suggested would cause problems? I am running Wheezy 64 bit with both HAL and udev, and have been doing since I first upgraded form Squeeze to Wheezy. Lisi
Running HAL and udev Simultanteouly
Still searching for a fix to stream TV via Hulu. Worked fine with Chrome/pepperflash and Iceweasal/flash until about mid-July, around the release time of Windows 10. Hulu indicates that with Linux, HAL is needed. My system is custom: 64-bit Wheezy, no desktop, just Openbox WM and LXPanel, and udev. Wondering if installing HAL as Hulu suggested would cause problems? I have doubts that it will work anyway. Any advice or fixes appreciated. Thanks. B
