Re: SGML beginners question
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 11:18:27AM +, Tony wrote: ^ ^Eric G . Miller wrote: ^ ^ really slick and well formatted documents. And for writing something ^ like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations. ^ ^Yes. ^ ^Latex + bibtex + Emacs + AUCTeX + bib-cite + RefTeX + font-latex ^ ^Good stuff. ^-- Yes, I basically agree with that, but getting the document into html as well as ps I have found to be a bore. Lat time I tried latex2html on a 100,000 word tex document, it died miserably. Are there better alternatives for producing html from complex latex sources? You can also look at tex4ht. It is a debian package. It works well on most of the documents I tried. But I had some trouble sometimes with \maketitle. In such cases I just commente it out when making the hmtl-file. The .deb is a bit outdated. Dowload it directly (with the updates) from `http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/mn.html'. Also, don't hesitate to write your questions/suggestions to Eitan Gurari -- my experience is that he is very responsive. ChriS
Re: SGML beginners question
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 11:18:27AM +, Tony wrote: ^ ^Eric G . Miller wrote: ^ ^ really slick and well formatted documents. And for writing something ^ like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations. ^ ^Yes. ^ ^Latex + bibtex + Emacs + AUCTeX + bib-cite + RefTeX + font-latex ^ ^Good stuff. ^-- Yes, I basically agree with that, but getting the document into html as well as ps I have found to be a bore. Lat time I tried latex2html on a 100,000 word tex document, it died miserably. Are there better alternatives for producing html from complex latex sources? You can also look at tex4ht. It is a debian package. It works well on most of the documents I tried. But I had some trouble sometimes with \maketitle. In such cases I just commente it out when making the hmtl-file. Johann. -- J.H. Spies, Hugenotestraat 29, Posbus 80, Franschhoek, 7690, South Africa Tel/Faks 021-876-2337 Sel/Cell 082 898 1528(Johann) 082 255 2388(Hester) What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price; therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's. I Corinthians 6:19,20
Re: SGML beginners question
^ ^Eric G . Miller wrote: ^ ^ really slick and well formatted documents. And for writing something ^ like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations. ^ ^Yes. ^ ^Latex + bibtex + Emacs + AUCTeX + bib-cite + RefTeX + font-latex ^ ^Good stuff. ^-- Yes, I basically agree with that, but getting the document into html as well as ps I have found to be a bore. Lat time I tried latex2html on a 100,000 word tex document, it died miserably. Are there better alternatives for producing html from complex latex sources? Tony -- ELSE / Department of Economics University College London Tony Curzon Price http://price.econ.ucl.ac.uk/www/ http://www.elseco.com ^Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] ^Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada ^P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 ^6623'rd GNU/Linux user at the Counter - http://counter.li.org/ ^ ^ ^-- ^Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null ^ ^ -- ELSE / Department of Economics University College London Tony Curzon Price http://price.econ.ucl.ac.uk/www/ http://www.elseco.com
Re: LaTeX and HTML (was: SGML beginners question)
Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Yes, I basically agree with that, but getting the document into | html as well as ps I have found to be a bore. Last time I tried | latex2html on a 100,000 word tex document, it died miserably. Are | there better alternatives for producing html from complex latex | sources? I haven't used it a great deal, but the hyperlatex package seems to do (something like) this reasonably well. From the README in the doc directory: This is version 2.3 of the Hyperlatex package. Hyperlatex allows you to use a LaTeX-like language to prepare documents in HTML (the hypertext markup language used by the world wide web), and, at the same time, to produce a fine printed document from your input. You can use all of LaTeX's power for the printed output, and you don't have to learn a new language for creating hypertext documents. Note that Hyperlatex is not meant to translate arbitrary Latex files into Html. Rather, it provides an authoring environment for writing printed documents and Html documents at the same time, using an extended subset of Latex (excluding concepts that have no Html counterpart and adding commands for new Html concepts such as hyperlinks or included images). Hyperlatex is a package available both in slink and in frozen, Jim
SGML beginners question
Hi, Recently, I have read a lot about SGML. It gives me the impression that it is very hard to learn and very very powerfull. However, I still don't have a clue that in what circumstances I should use SGML instead of others. Should I write a thesis report in SGML or LaTeX? Would it be idea for a general document that one would normally write in Word? Thanks for any help in advance. Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _
Re: SGML beginners question
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 12:03:44PM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote Hi, Recently, I have read a lot about SGML. It gives me the impression that it is very hard to learn and very very powerfull. However, I still don't have a clue that in what circumstances I should use SGML instead of others. Should I write a thesis report in SGML or LaTeX? Would it be idea for a general document that one would normally write in Word? Thanks for any help in advance. I use SGML for two reasons: - For documents where I want to maintain a single source but want to produce a range of output formats (e.g. .html, .ps, .rtf, .dvi) - For the sheer joy of using psgml so I don't have to memorise a document grammar. John P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdt.net.au/~john Debian Linux admin support:technical services
Re: SGML beginners question
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 12:03:44PM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote: Hi, Recently, I have read a lot about SGML. It gives me the impression that it is very hard to learn and very very powerfull. I haven't found it so hard to learn (like DocBook) as getting desirable printable versions. However, I still don't have a clue that in what circumstances I should use SGML instead of others. Should I write a thesis report in SGML or LaTeX? Would it be idea for a general document that one would normally write in Word? I'd vote for LaTeX/TeX/pdfTex. With a bit of hacking, you can make some really slick and well formatted documents. And for writing something like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations. It's a bit of work to learn some of the trickery, but there's lots of help available... However, LaTeX/TeX may be a bit of overkill for a simple document like you might write in Word (I'm having to write/format a several hundred page report in Word at work -- I wouldn't wish that hell on anyone!). You could also just write simple things in html an use a2ps to convert them to postscript (or just print to file from netscrape). There's also ted (rtf format) and Abiword (minimal). Die Hards might use vi with troff macros! -- #! /bin/sh echo 'Linux Must Die!' | wall dd if=/dev/zero of=/vmlinuz bs=1 \ count=`du -Lb /vmlinuz | awk '{ /^([0-9])+/ ; print $1 }'` shutdown -r now
Re: SGML beginners question
Eric G . Miller wrote: really slick and well formatted documents. And for writing something like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations. Yes. Latex + bibtex + Emacs + AUCTeX + bib-cite + RefTeX + font-latex Good stuff. -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd GNU/Linux user at the Counter - http://counter.li.org/