Re: SGML beginners question

2000-07-31 Thread Christophe TROESTLER
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 11:18:27AM +, Tony wrote:
  ^
  ^Eric G . Miller wrote:
  ^
  ^ really slick and well formatted documents.  And for writing something
  ^ like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations.
  ^
  ^Yes.
  ^
  ^Latex + bibtex + Emacs + AUCTeX + bib-cite + RefTeX + font-latex
  ^
  ^Good stuff.
  ^-- 
  
  Yes, I basically agree with that, but getting the document into html as 
  well 
  as ps I have found to be a bore. Lat time I tried latex2html on a 100,000 
  word 
  tex document, it died miserably. Are there better alternatives for 
  producing 
  html from complex latex sources?
 
 You can also look at tex4ht.  It is a debian package.
 
 It works well on most of the documents I tried.  But I had some
 trouble sometimes with \maketitle. In such cases I just commente it
 out when making the hmtl-file. 

The .deb is a bit outdated.  Dowload it directly (with the updates)
from `http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/mn.html'.  Also,
don't hesitate to write your questions/suggestions to Eitan Gurari --
my experience is that he is very responsive.

ChriS



Re: SGML beginners question

2000-06-23 Thread Johann Spies
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 11:18:27AM +, Tony wrote:
 ^
 ^Eric G . Miller wrote:
 ^
 ^ really slick and well formatted documents.  And for writing something
 ^ like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations.
 ^
 ^Yes.
 ^
 ^Latex + bibtex + Emacs + AUCTeX + bib-cite + RefTeX + font-latex
 ^
 ^Good stuff.
 ^-- 
 
 Yes, I basically agree with that, but getting the document into html as well 
 as ps I have found to be a bore. Lat time I tried latex2html on a 100,000 
 word 
 tex document, it died miserably. Are there better alternatives for producing 
 html from complex latex sources?

You can also look at tex4ht.  It is a debian package.

It works well on most of the documents I tried.  But I had some
trouble sometimes with \maketitle. In such cases I just commente it
out when making the hmtl-file. 

Johann.

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Re: SGML beginners question

2000-06-22 Thread Tony
^
^Eric G . Miller wrote:
^
^ really slick and well formatted documents.  And for writing something
^ like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations.
^
^Yes.
^
^Latex + bibtex + Emacs + AUCTeX + bib-cite + RefTeX + font-latex
^
^Good stuff.
^-- 

Yes, I basically agree with that, but getting the document into html as well 
as ps I have found to be a bore. Lat time I tried latex2html on a 100,000 word 
tex document, it died miserably. Are there better alternatives for producing 
html from complex latex sources?

Tony


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Re: LaTeX and HTML (was: SGML beginners question)

2000-06-22 Thread mcclosk

Tony [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

| Yes, I basically agree with that, but getting the document into
| html as well as ps I have found to be a bore. Last time I tried
| latex2html on a 100,000 word tex document, it died miserably. Are
| there better alternatives for producing html from complex latex
| sources?

I haven't used it a great deal, but the hyperlatex package seems to do
(something like) this reasonably well.

From the README in the doc directory:

   This is version 2.3 of the Hyperlatex package.  Hyperlatex allows
   you to use a LaTeX-like language to prepare documents in HTML (the
   hypertext markup language used by the world wide web), and, at the
   same time, to produce a fine printed document from your input. You
   can use all of LaTeX's power for the printed output, and you don't
   have to learn a new language for creating hypertext documents.

   Note that Hyperlatex is not meant to translate arbitrary Latex
   files into Html. Rather, it provides an authoring environment for
   writing printed documents and Html documents at the same time,
   using an extended subset of Latex (excluding concepts that have no
   Html counterpart and adding commands for new Html concepts such as
   hyperlinks or included images).

Hyperlatex is a package available both in slink and in frozen,

Jim



SGML beginners question

2000-06-21 Thread Shao Zhang
Hi,
Recently, I have read a lot about SGML. It gives me the
impression that it is very hard to learn and very very
powerfull.

However, I still don't have a clue that in what circumstances I
should use SGML instead of others. Should I write a thesis
report in SGML or LaTeX? Would it be idea for a general document
that one would normally write in Word?

Thanks for any help in advance.

Shao.

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Re: SGML beginners question

2000-06-21 Thread John Pearson
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 12:03:44PM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote
 Hi,
   Recently, I have read a lot about SGML. It gives me the
   impression that it is very hard to learn and very very
   powerfull.
 
   However, I still don't have a clue that in what circumstances I
   should use SGML instead of others. Should I write a thesis
   report in SGML or LaTeX? Would it be idea for a general document
   that one would normally write in Word?
 
   Thanks for any help in advance.
 

I use SGML for two reasons:
  - For documents where I want to maintain a single source but want
to produce a range of output formats (e.g. .html, .ps, .rtf, .dvi)
  - For the sheer joy of using psgml so I don't have to memorise a 
document grammar.



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Re: SGML beginners question

2000-06-21 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 12:03:44PM +1000, Shao Zhang wrote:
 Hi,
   Recently, I have read a lot about SGML. It gives me the
   impression that it is very hard to learn and very very
   powerfull.

I haven't found it so hard to learn (like DocBook) as getting desirable
printable versions.

   However, I still don't have a clue that in what circumstances I
   should use SGML instead of others. Should I write a thesis
   report in SGML or LaTeX? Would it be idea for a general document
   that one would normally write in Word?

I'd vote for LaTeX/TeX/pdfTex.  With a bit of hacking, you can make some
really slick and well formatted documents.  And for writing something
like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations.  It's a
bit of work to learn some of the trickery, but there's lots of help
available...

However, LaTeX/TeX may be a bit of overkill for a simple document like
you might write in Word (I'm having to write/format a several hundred
page report in Word at work -- I wouldn't wish that hell on anyone!).
You could also just write simple things in html an use a2ps to convert
them to postscript (or just print to file from netscrape).  There's also
ted (rtf format) and Abiword (minimal).  Die Hards might use vi with
troff macros! 

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Re: SGML beginners question

2000-06-21 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Eric G . Miller wrote:

 really slick and well formatted documents.  And for writing something
 like a thesis, using BibTeX makes it easy to handle citations.

Yes.

Latex + bibtex + Emacs + AUCTeX + bib-cite + RefTeX + font-latex

Good stuff.
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