Re: Slow Cable Modem Revisited

2001-05-06 Thread W. Paul Mills

The DFE-530TX+ works fine for me on cable modem.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jaldhar H. Vyas) writes:

 Suddenly it occurred to me that the slowdown I'd started seeing with my
 @home service began occurring right arounf the time I took my LinkSys
 Etherlink II card (uses ne2k-pci driver) out and replaced it with a D-Link
 DFE-530TX+ (uses rtl8139 driver.)  So I put it back in and lo and behold!
 my connection is zipping along again.


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Re: Slow Cable Modem Revisited

2001-05-05 Thread Brandon High
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:21:12AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
 Suddenly it occurred to me that the slowdown I'd started seeing with my
 @home service began occurring right arounf the time I took my LinkSys
 Etherlink II card (uses ne2k-pci driver) out and replaced it with a D-Link
 DFE-530TX+ (uses rtl8139 driver.)  So I put it back in and lo and behold!
 my connection is zipping along again.

NE2000 is about the worst design out there. If I remember correctly, it was
a reference design never intended to see tha light of day. Then people
started marketting and selling them.

The Netgear PCI card (tulip chipset) is pretty decent, supports full duplex
100Mbps, and only costs about $15-$25 even at Best Buy.

 I still think @home are up to some funny business but for now I'm happy.

I was never really happy with their service, but I'm not really happy with
my Pac Bell DSL either. I guess I'm just too damned picky.

-B

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Re: athome funny business [was Slow Cable Modem Revisited]

2001-05-05 Thread idalton
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 12:23:31PM -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 09:04:57AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:21:12AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
   Suddenly it occurred to me that the slowdown I'd started seeing with my
   @home service began occurring right arounf the time I took my LinkSys
   Etherlink II card (uses ne2k-pci driver) out and replaced it with a D-Link
   DFE-530TX+ (uses rtl8139 driver.)  So I put it back in and lo and behold!
   my connection is zipping along again.
   
   I still think @home are up to some funny business but for now I'm happy.
  
  Hehe. Speaking of funny business, I just had @home set up, and the cable
  installer never left me a modem manual, and 3com is sarcasmbeing their
  usually helpful self again/sarcasm about offering content obscured in
  javascript.[0]
  
  So I emailed support to ask for a user manual. I'm sent back an
  'individual' boilerplate response suggesting I power-cycle the modem and
  reboot my computer. Yeh...
 
 What exactly are you hoping to accomplish by acquiring a user manual
 for your cable modem?
 
 Cable modems are completely unlike DSL modems regarding user-tunable
 bits.  For better or for worse, most of the cable modem's
 functionality is meant to be controlled by the cable operator.

Let's see.. There are status lights marked with incomprehensable
symbols. I think I've puzzled three of them out, but the fourth remains
unlit and I have no idea what it means. I also want to turn off the LOUD
chiming sound it makes when it syncs to the cable. The installer guy
said it was a user-settable option.

 BTW, I don't believe @Home is forcing anyone to use a proxy (though
 they like it if you do; it lowers their aggregate demand for external
 bandwidth.)  IMO, most funny business with @Home is a result of
 their rapid growth.  Besides, @Home has to depend on the local cable
 operator to uphold quality considerations for the last mile.

I like using a proxy too. Heck, I HAVE to run a proxy on my firewall box
for my internal machines. And I like the idea of keeping external
aggregate bandwidth down. Hopefully it'll help keep me off their
'naughty' list for daring to have mail-transport-agent and ssh-server
installed so I can actually USE my computer. ;)

-- Ferret



Re: athome funny business [was Slow Cable Modem Revisited]

2001-05-05 Thread Stephen E. Hargrove
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 I like using a proxy too. Heck, I HAVE to run a proxy on my firewall box
 for my internal machines. And I like the idea of keeping external
 aggregate bandwidth down. Hopefully it'll help keep me off their
 'naughty' list for daring to have mail-transport-agent and ssh-server
 installed so I can actually USE my computer. ;)

i installed portsentry http://www.psionic.com/abacus/portsentry to deal
with this situation.  when @home scans my machine for 'naughty' (i.e.
functional) ports, the request gets dropped into the bit bucket.  still
need to do some tweaking but seems to be working so far.  combined with
psionic's logcheck, i get emails of any portscanning activity, too.

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Re: athome funny business [was Slow Cable Modem Revisited]

2001-05-05 Thread Jaye Inabnit ke6sls

Hello,

This topic is of interest here in Eureka California where PacBell has a 
strangle hold on broadish band. Cox cable is just about to start a beta test 
in the area post the upgrades they performed last year. I've learned that the 
server is of a proprietary class as opposed to the newer systems that are 
considered non-proprietary. The reason is that it was thousands of dollars 
cheaper then the newer systems. I am uncertain of what type of modem it is, 
but think it's based on motorola.

I've wired the engineer in hopes that he'll let me beta test their system 
since I've pretty much given up hope for fairness from PacBell. 

So the question that comes to me, is what type of protocol is going to be 
used, and how hard will it be to tweak my stable box to use it. Should be 
interesting.

Now if I could just get a different local telco provider! Monopolies suck.

tatah

On Friday 04 May 2001 10:23, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 Cable modems are completely unlike DSL modems regarding user-tunable
 bits.  For better or for worse, most of the cable modem's
 functionality is meant to be controlled by the cable operator.

 BTW, I don't believe @Home is forcing anyone to use a proxy (though
 they like it if you do; it lowers their aggregate demand for external
 bandwidth.)  IMO, most funny business with @Home is a result of
 their rapid growth.  Besides, @Home has to depend on the local cable
 operator to uphold quality considerations for the last mile.
-- 

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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.qsl.net/ke6sls ICQ: 12741145
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Re: athome funny business [was Slow Cable Modem Revisited]

2001-05-05 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Sat, May 05, 2001 at 11:34:38AM -0700, Jaye Inabnit ke6sls wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 This topic is of interest here in Eureka California where PacBell has a 
 strangle hold on broadish band. Cox cable is just about to start a beta test 
 in the area post the upgrades they performed last year. I've learned that the 
 server is of a proprietary class as opposed to the newer systems that are 
 considered non-proprietary. The reason is that it was thousands of dollars 
 cheaper then the newer systems. I am uncertain of what type of modem it is, 
 but think it's based on motorola.
 
 I've wired the engineer in hopes that he'll let me beta test their system 
 since I've pretty much given up hope for fairness from PacBell. 
 
 So the question that comes to me, is what type of protocol is going to be 
 used, and how hard will it be to tweak my stable box to use it. Should be 
 interesting.

First, please respect my Mail-Followup-To: header; I read the list so
Cc:s are unwelcome.

I think you are confusing some issues.  Recent cable modems conform
to a standard known as DOCSIS.  The idea is that any manufacturers
DOCSIS modem can be used on a DOCSIS system.  @Home has gone almost
exclusively with Cisco uBRs for their head end equipment but uses 3Com,
Motorola, even Hitachi as customer premise equipment.  The Cisco head
end stuff is incredibly expensive.

The original idea of DOCSIS was that customers would be able to
purchase their own modems at the corner electronics store.  In many
markets the MSO continues to purchase the modems as they are able to
get volume discounts and are then dealing with a known product.

Several manufacturers rolled out cable modems before the DOCSIS
standard.  Motorola and LANCity (now Arris Interactive) are two that
I've seen.  I think what's happening in your area is that Cox is
trying to roll out Motorola's MCR product which is not DOCSIS
compliant.

What does this mean to an end user?  Not much, except you won't be
able to buy your modem.  Many MSOs won't let you anyway ... they want
you to rent.  The interface between the modem and your PC is still
Ethernet, the protocol is still IP.

HTH,

-- 
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Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow.
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Re: athome funny business [was Slow Cable Modem Revisited]

2001-05-05 Thread Alan Shutko
Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The original idea of DOCSIS was that customers would be able to
 purchase their own modems at the corner electronics store.  In many
 markets the MSO continues to purchase the modems as they are able to
 get volume discounts and are then dealing with a known product.

Or, on Long Island, the cable company owns the local electronics
stores  8^)

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Re: athome funny business [was Slow Cable Modem Revisited]

2001-05-05 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sat, May 05, 2001 at 03:53:16PM -0400, Alan Shutko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  The original idea of DOCSIS was that customers would be able to
  purchase their own modems at the corner electronics store.  In many
  markets the MSO continues to purchase the modems as they are able to
  get volume discounts and are then dealing with a known product.
 
 Or, on Long Island, the cable company owns the local electronics
 stores  8^)

Hey, what's a business if it ain't all in the family?

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Slow Cable Modem Revisited

2001-05-04 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
Suddenly it occurred to me that the slowdown I'd started seeing with my
@home service began occurring right arounf the time I took my LinkSys
Etherlink II card (uses ne2k-pci driver) out and replaced it with a D-Link
DFE-530TX+ (uses rtl8139 driver.)  So I put it back in and lo and behold!
my connection is zipping along again.

I still think @home are up to some funny business but for now I'm happy.

-- 
Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED]



athome funny business [was Slow Cable Modem Revisited]

2001-05-04 Thread idalton
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:21:12AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
 Suddenly it occurred to me that the slowdown I'd started seeing with my
 @home service began occurring right arounf the time I took my LinkSys
 Etherlink II card (uses ne2k-pci driver) out and replaced it with a D-Link
 DFE-530TX+ (uses rtl8139 driver.)  So I put it back in and lo and behold!
 my connection is zipping along again.
 
 I still think @home are up to some funny business but for now I'm happy.

Hehe. Speaking of funny business, I just had @home set up, and the cable
installer never left me a modem manual, and 3com is sarcasmbeing their
usually helpful self again/sarcasm about offering content obscured in
javascript.[0]

So I emailed support to ask for a user manual. I'm sent back an
'individual' boilerplate response suggesting I power-cycle the modem and
reboot my computer. Yeh...

[0]Is it worth a try with these companies, when told that one needs to
upgrade one's browser to a version that supports javascript, to suggest
donating money to the SPI | lynx devel team so they can WRITE a new
version with javascript support (insofar as javascript can be ported to
linear rendering)?

-- Ferret



Re: athome funny business [was Slow Cable Modem Revisited]

2001-05-04 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 09:04:57AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 11:21:12AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
  Suddenly it occurred to me that the slowdown I'd started seeing with my
  @home service began occurring right arounf the time I took my LinkSys
  Etherlink II card (uses ne2k-pci driver) out and replaced it with a D-Link
  DFE-530TX+ (uses rtl8139 driver.)  So I put it back in and lo and behold!
  my connection is zipping along again.
  
  I still think @home are up to some funny business but for now I'm happy.
 
 Hehe. Speaking of funny business, I just had @home set up, and the cable
 installer never left me a modem manual, and 3com is sarcasmbeing their
 usually helpful self again/sarcasm about offering content obscured in
 javascript.[0]
 
 So I emailed support to ask for a user manual. I'm sent back an
 'individual' boilerplate response suggesting I power-cycle the modem and
 reboot my computer. Yeh...

What exactly are you hoping to accomplish by acquiring a user manual
for your cable modem?

Cable modems are completely unlike DSL modems regarding user-tunable
bits.  For better or for worse, most of the cable modem's
functionality is meant to be controlled by the cable operator.

BTW, I don't believe @Home is forcing anyone to use a proxy (though
they like it if you do; it lowers their aggregate demand for external
bandwidth.)  IMO, most funny business with @Home is a result of
their rapid growth.  Besides, @Home has to depend on the local cable
operator to uphold quality considerations for the last mile.

Cheers,

-- 
Nathan Norman - Staff Engineer | A good plan today is better
Micromuse Ltd. | than a perfect plan tomorrow.
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   |   -- Patton


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