Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-02-01 Thread D-Man
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 10:54:33PM -0500, D-Man wrote:
| On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 02:20:03AM +0100, Martin Albert wrote:
| | On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Andrea Vettorello wrote:
[snip]
| | I try PS/2, Buttons 5, ZAxisMapping 4 5  - but strange things happen on
| | the screen then. May be you have it for me.
| 
[snip]
|
| I can check my settings when I get back to my own computer.

I haven't had my computer on yet, but I remembered that you have to
set the protocol to MS IntelliMouse, not PS/2.

HTH,
-D



Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-02-01 Thread Martin Albert
On Thu, 01 Feb 2001, D-Man wrote:
 | I try PS/2, Buttons 5, ZAxisMapping 4 5  - but strange things happen on
 | the screen then. May be you have it for me.
 
 My Logitech wheel mouse (wasn't cheap -- cost ~$40 and worth it) works
 fine (or at least it did with RH 6.1 and 7.0 I don't have a new enough
 GNOME on Debian yet to use X much) for me.  Try setting the Buttons to
 3.  Buttons 4 and 5 don't really count since they are used as the
 wheel.

Hm, Buttons 3 just turns the wheel off. The XF..config man says to have
the ZAxisButtons added.

  The mouse I have is the Logitech MouseMan Wheel -- it has 2
 normal  buttons, 1 thumb button and a scroll wheel that doubles
 as a button. It is a nice large mouse that has the thumb side raised
 up in a  natural way.  It's the only mouse I have that hasn't hurt my
 hand.  It also supports USB and PS/2.

I only use it for _very_ short periods, mostly to move that cursor out
of the way :) (does Konqueror support the TAB key to navigate the links?
the _only_ advantage of IE)

greetings, martin



Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-02-01 Thread Martin Albert
Hi, nice people on this list.
I hope it's ok for you (and for you, John), when i cc my answers to pm
here. So many of you did already take part.
So here the story continues. We're getting closer, it seems ;-)

On Thu, 01 Feb 2001, you wrote:
 Martin,  here are some of the answers that I found.
 Window-manager:  I selected enlightnment because my Learning Debian
 GNU/Linux book says that I need X and then GNOME before I insatll
 StarOffice.

I have StarOffice on KDE, no problem, integrates nicely.

 ls -al /dev/gpm*:  Today I found that both gpmctl and gpmdata were
there.  gpm -v = 1.17.8

yeah!

 Linux ver, distro etal = Debian from LinuxMall.com obtained while I
was at  COMDEX (Las Vegas), Linux is ver 2.2.17.

 XF86_SVGA:  This is my X server.  The ver I got from either man or
 info was 3.3.5
 Videdo card: diamond Stealth, 3D 3000 with 2048K Mem.
 Below is some other info:
 
 GeForce DDR, Quadro, ET4000, ET4000W32, ET4000W32i, ET4000W32i_rev_b,
   ET4000W32i_rev_c, ET4000W32p, ET4000W32p_rev_a, ET4000W32p_rev_b,
   ET4000W32p_rev_c, ET4000W32p_rev_d, ET6000, ET6100, et3000, pvga1,
   wd90c00, wd90c10, wd90c30, wd90c24, wd90c31, wd90c33, gvga, r128, ati,
   sis86c201, sis86c202, sis86c205, sis86c215, sis86c225, sis5597,
   sis5598, sis6326, sis530, sis620, sis300, sis630, sis540, tvga8200lx,
   tvga8800cs, tvga8900b, tvga8900c, tvga8900cl, tvga8900d, tvga9000,
   tvga9000i, tvga9100b, tvga9200cxr, tgui9400cxi, tgui9420, tgui9420dgi,
   tgui9430dgi, tgui9440agi, cyber9320, tgui9660, tgui9680, tgui9682,
   tgui9685, cyber9382, cyber9385, cyber9388, cyber9397, cyber9520,
   cyber9525, 3dimage975, 3dimage985, cyber9397dvd, blade3d, cyberblade,
   clgd5420, clgd5422, clgd5424, clgd5426, clgd5428, clgd5429, clgd5430,
   clgd5434, clgd5436, clgd5446, clgd5480, clgd5462, clgd5464, clgd5465,
   clgd6205, clgd6215, clgd6225, clgd6235, clgd7541, clgd7542, clgd7543,
   clgd7548, clgd7555, clgd7556, ncr77c22, ncr77c22e, cpq_avga, mga2064w,
   mga1064sg, mga2164w, mga2164w AGP, mgag200, mgag100, mgag400, oti067,
   oti077, oti087, oti037c, al2101, ali2228, ali2301, ali2302, ali2308,
   ali2401, cl6410, cl6412, cl6420, cl6440, video7, ark1000vl, ark1000pv,
   ark2000pv, ark2000mt, mx, realtek, s3_savage, s3_virge, AP6422, AT24,
   AT3D, s3_svga, NM2070, NM2090, NM2093, NM2097, NM2160, NM2200,
   ct65520, ct65525, ct65530, ct65535, ct65540, ct65545, ct65546,
   ct65548, ct65550, ct65554, ct6, ct68554, ct69000, ct64200,
   ct64300, mediagx, V1000, V2100, V2200, p9100, spc8110, i740, i740_pci,
   i810, i810-dc100, i810e, Voodoo Banshee, Voodoo3, smi, generic
 
 From XF86 Config.
 
 Section Screen
Driver  SVGA
Device  Diamond Stealth
Monitor FairView
DefaultColorDepth 8
BlankTime   0
SuspendTime 0
OffTime 0
SubSection Display
   Depth8
   Modes640x480 640x400 512x384 320x240 320x200
   ViewPort 0 0
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
   Depth15
   Modes640x480 640x400 512x384 320x240 320x200
EndSubSection
SubSection Display
   Depth16
   Modes640x480 640x400 512x384 320x240 320x200
   ViewPort 0 0
EndSubSection

Now, as Nate and Manuel suggest, try the 'Option sw_cursor'. Leave all
your other lines in that section as they are, they are for Manuels
board. He just posted the whole Section, so you can see WHERE to insert:

Section Device
Identifier  Elsa Winner T3D
VendorName  Unknown
BoardName   Unknown
VideoRam8192
ChipId  0x8a10
Option  sw_cursor ---
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection

You may also try, what happens, when you change 
DefaultColorDepth 8
in your Screens Section to 15 or 16.
 
 I WILL GO SKIING NEXT WEEK  And Thaks again John

Hopefully everything is fine until than. (than with an 'a' here?)

greetings to all kind souls, maritn, martin.
(Did i mention, i hate those Fujitsu keyboards since 1985?)



Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-02-01 Thread Andrea Vettorello
Martin Albert wrote:

 On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Andrea Vettorello wrote:
  As someone else suggested, try stopping gpm before launching X or trying to
  configure X (via some graphic configuration utility that right now i don't
  remember the name, where is dexter =).

 I don't think, that is hte problem. The mouse moves, just no or
 distorted visible cursor.

Oops, i've missed something =) I think this isn't mouse related, mmmh, maybe
some misconfiguration with the X server. What kind of video card are you using?

  Do yourself a favor, don't try another distro ;)
 I already tried to convince him, to at least jsut go skiing instead ;-)
 And we're all still here.


Andrea




Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-02-01 Thread LEZARUZ
i had some problem like this too
i fixed it with making the GPM using exactly the sme protocoll for the mouse
as X does
else it won't work
i think instead of the /dev/mouse device i configured X to use PSAUX

LEZARUZ

- Original Message -
From: Andrea Vettorello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Still No Cursor in X


 Martin Albert wrote:

  On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Andrea Vettorello wrote:
   As someone else suggested, try stopping gpm before launching X or
trying to
   configure X (via some graphic configuration utility that right now i
don't
   remember the name, where is dexter =).
 
  I don't think, that is hte problem. The mouse moves, just no or
  distorted visible cursor.

 Oops, i've missed something =) I think this isn't mouse related, mmmh,
maybe
 some misconfiguration with the X server. What kind of video card are you
using?

   Do yourself a favor, don't try another distro ;)
  I already tried to convince him, to at least jsut go skiing instead ;-)
  And we're all still here.
 

 Andrea



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Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-31 Thread Martin Albert
On Mit, 31 Jan 2001, you wrote:
 Albert,  I tried the configuration you suggested.  I got a cursor in the

Please let me introduce myself as a man of wealth  taste and the name
is martin 8-)

 text mode but not in X.  I was able to lite up menus.
In X? Did you already try to find out about your X-server options? You
did again not tell what server  window-manager you are using

 After the ls -al /dev/gpm* I only got the one line regarding gpmdata as
 ..
 What does it mean that the gpmctl entry is not there.

This is a good question indeed. It took me nearly half an hour now to
find out and i'm still not quite sure.

This device entry 'named socket' is created when gpm is started, for
instance on system start or when you manually run '/etc/init.d/gpm
restart'.

When this does not happen on your system, sth. is strange. As i didn't
work with named sockets yet, i could only make wild guesses.
It might be that your gpm is simply too old. Check the version with
'gpm -v'. I've got 1.17.8 and it works fine.
You've got networking in your kernel (this is silly, nearly impossible
you haven't).
Do you run a debian system at all?

Anyway this is strange. What kind of a system are you runnign there?
If you can, try reinstalling gpm.
Post where you've got your packages from, ideally the versions of gpm
and X-server, it's name and the gfx card.

 Thanks John  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
you're welcome

greetings, martin



Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-31 Thread Blair M. Cummings
I use the XF86Setup program. I found that when I told it I had a PS2, my
mouse would stop working in the setup program. Use the default Microsoft
mouse and you should be good to go.

(But answer the  rest of the questions or nothing else will work for you
grin)

Good Luck




Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-31 Thread Andrei Ivanov
I'm not sure whether this has been tried yet
When I upgraded to X4.0.2, I did lose the cursor (it was moving but
invisible). Turned out the xserver was not upgraded, so it was still using
the xserver-svga 3.3.6, instead of using xserver-xfree86. 
Once that was installed, cursor came back.
Andrei

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Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-31 Thread Andrea Vettorello
hammack wrote:

 Andrea, Thanks for the response.  I think I tried your suggestins.  Below is
 my setup for the mouse in gpm.config and XF86Config:
 gpm.config:
 device=/dev/psaux
 responsiveness=
 repeat_type=raw
 type=psw
 append=


[...]

As someone else suggested, try stopping gpm before launching X or trying to
configure X (via some graphic configuration utility that right now i don't
remember the name, where is dexter =).

Maybe i've missed the first post, but it could be useful to know your mouse
model (How many buttons has? Is a branded one?).

This list is full of very talented and knowledgeable (it's the right word? my
english sucks!) people, i think your mouse problems will be sorted out quickly.
Do yourself a favor, don't try another distro ;)


Andrea

P.S. If all fails, why not spend 10 bucks to buy a cheap OEM Logitech wheel
mouse (i became addicted to that darn wheel), so i could give you my
configuration that can confirm it's working perfectly right now =)





Re: Still No Cursor in X About to give up!!

2001-01-31 Thread Manuel Reiter
Hi!

Sorry, I did not follow this thread from the beginning, and maybe this has
already been proposed or ruled out, but could it be a problem with your
graphics card? I had the square white box cursor problem once on an ELSA
Winner 1000 T3D and got rid of it by disabling the hardware
cursor. Appropriate section of XF86Config follows below, note the 'option 
sw_cursor' line.

Hoping on the slight chance that this might help,

  Manuel

---XF86Config

Section Device
Identifier  Elsa Winner T3D
VendorName  Unknown
BoardName   Unknown
VideoRam8192
ChipId  0x8a10
Option  sw_cursor
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection



Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-31 Thread hammack
Mr Albert , sorry about the mistake.  I do appreciate you help.  I looked at
the gpm info last night.  I didn't see much.  Anyway thanks for you help.
I'll keep trying and get this yes.   John
- Original Message -
From: Martin Albert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: Still No Cursor in X


 On Mit, 31 Jan 2001, you wrote:
  Albert,  I tried the configuration you suggested.  I got a cursor in the

 Please let me introduce myself as a man of wealth  taste and the name
 is martin 8-)

  text mode but not in X.  I was able to lite up menus.
 In X? Did you already try to find out about your X-server options? You
 did again not tell what server  window-manager you are using

  After the ls -al /dev/gpm* I only got the one line regarding gpmdata as
  ..
  What does it mean that the gpmctl entry is not there.

 This is a good question indeed. It took me nearly half an hour now to
 find out and i'm still not quite sure.

 This device entry 'named socket' is created when gpm is started, for
 instance on system start or when you manually run '/etc/init.d/gpm
 restart'.

 When this does not happen on your system, sth. is strange. As i didn't
 work with named sockets yet, i could only make wild guesses.
 It might be that your gpm is simply too old. Check the version with
 'gpm -v'. I've got 1.17.8 and it works fine.
 You've got networking in your kernel (this is silly, nearly impossible
 you haven't).
 Do you run a debian system at all?

 Anyway this is strange. What kind of a system are you runnign there?
 If you can, try reinstalling gpm.
 Post where you've got your packages from, ideally the versions of gpm
 and X-server, it's name and the gfx card.

  Thanks John  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 you're welcome

 greetings, martin


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Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-31 Thread Martin Albert
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Andrea Vettorello wrote:
 As someone else suggested, try stopping gpm before launching X or trying to
 configure X (via some graphic configuration utility that right now i don't
 remember the name, where is dexter =).

I don't think, that is hte problem. The mouse moves, just no or
distorted visible cursor.

 Do yourself a favor, don't try another distro ;)
I already tried to convince him, to at least jsut go skiing instead ;-)
And we're all still here.

 P.S. If all fails, why not spend 10 bucks to buy a cheap OEM
 Logitech wheel  mouse (i became addicted to that darn wheel), so i
 could give you my  configuration that can confirm it's working
perfectly right now =)  

Why not send it to me. I gave up on that. Either the old KDE or Fujitsu
sells a crippled Logitech.

I try PS/2, Buttons 5, ZAxisMapping 4 5  - but strange things happen on
the screen then. May be you have it for me.

greetings, martin



Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-31 Thread Martin Albert
On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Andrei Ivanov wrote:
 I'm not sure whether this has been tried yet
 When I upgraded to X4.0.2, I did lose the cursor (it was moving but
 invisible). Turned out the xserver was not upgraded, so it was still using
 the xserver-svga 3.3.6, instead of using xserver-xfree86. 
 Once that was installed, cursor came back.
 Andrei

Couldn't this be the real thing?

AFAIK, a simple apt-get dist upgrade dos not install the new X-server.
You will have to do an explicit
'apt-get install your-required-x-server' 

To check the version of your server is a little tricky - mostly because
you don't tell us your video card or x-server that you use and we don't
even know, whether you've got X3 or X4. (Folks with X4: i don't know
this yet, please interfere when i tell rubbish)

But let's try: In a terminal, your console for instance, enter  'XF86_'
Then, don't hit return yet, hit TAB twice. The first  time it may just
beep, the second time you get a short list of programs in your path
that start with XF86_. One of them is your X-Server ;-)

IF you know which one you should use, give enough characters to
distinguish from the other names. You may at every time try to hit TAB
again, it will then complete as much as is unambigous. That command is
completed (the whole name of the program in question on the command
line, your cursor behind it)? Ok, type a space and '-showconfig'. Now
hit return. The first line of output reads 'XFree86 Version 3.3.6' with
my server - i don't have X4 installed - and you now know why ;-)

If you don't know your server, you may try 'X -showconfig'.

Now, tell us about the ouput and which debian version you are using.
When you upgrade over the net with apt-get, mail your
'/etc/apt/sources.list' file. Otherwise the CD you try to install from
or anything, just to give us any hint - please ;-)

So much for today

martin



Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-31 Thread D-Man
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 02:20:03AM +0100, Martin Albert wrote:
| On Wed, 31 Jan 2001, Andrea Vettorello wrote:
|  P.S. If all fails, why not spend 10 bucks to buy a cheap OEM
|  Logitech wheel  mouse (i became addicted to that darn wheel), so i
|  could give you my  configuration that can confirm it's working
| perfectly right now =)  
| 
| Why not send it to me. I gave up on that. Either the old KDE or Fujitsu
| sells a crippled Logitech.
| 
| I try PS/2, Buttons 5, ZAxisMapping 4 5  - but strange things happen on
| the screen then. May be you have it for me.

My Logitech wheel mouse (wasn't cheap -- cost ~$40 and worth it) works
fine (or at least it did with RH 6.1 and 7.0 I don't have a new enough
GNOME on Debian yet to use X much) for me.  Try setting the Buttons to
3.  Buttons 4 and 5 don't really count since they are used as the
wheel.

I can check my settings when I get back to my own computer.


The mouse I have is the Logitech MouseMan Wheel -- it has 2 normal
buttons, 1 thumb button and a scroll wheel that doubles as a button.
It is a nice large mouse that has the thumb side raised up in a
natural way.  It's the only mouse I have that hasn't hurt my hand.  It
also supports USB and PS/2.

| 
| greetings, martin
| 

-D



Fw: Still No Cursor in X Now Closer!

2001-01-30 Thread hammack
Casey,  I am now closer.  I used your conf and got a cursor about 1 square
in the X windows.  It looks as if the upper left corner is the cursor point.
So now I have to get the cursor down to real life size.  Below is the conf I
currently have that worked thanks to you.  Note the lines that I commetted
out.  Thanks!  John.  Here is my present config:  Any suggestions on where I
go from here??
gpm.conf:
device=/dev/psaux
responsiveness=
repeat_type=raw
type=psw
append=

XF86Config Pointer section:
Section Pointer
ProtocolPS/2
Device  /dev/gpmdata
#   BaudRate1200
#   Emulate3Timeout50
#   Resolution   100
#   Buttons   3   this line was commeted out before
#   Emulate3Buttons
EndSection



- Original Message -
From: Casey Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: hammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]; User Debian
debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: Still No Cursor in X


 sorry for the blank first message, hit ctrl-x instead of c...

 here is what is in my gpm.conf, and XF86Config, my mouse works fine under
 X and in console at the same time

 gpm.conf:
 device=/dev/psaux
 responsiveness=
 repeat_type=raw
 type=ps2
 append=

 XF86Config:
 Section Pointer
 ProtocolPS/2
 Device  /dev/gpmdata
 EndSection

 -casey

 On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Kent West wrote:

  hammack wrote:
 
   Problem:  I cannot get a cursor in X with my PS/2 generic mouse.  I do
   get a cursor in the Text mode and can cut and paste between VC's.  In
   X I can click in the window and get menus to pop up and occasionally I
   will lite up a button all in the blind.Below are the two
   configurations that work.
  
  
  
   XF86Config:
  
   Protocol  PS/2
  
   Device/dev/gpmdata
  
   or
  
   Protocol  PS/2
  
   Device/dev/mouse
  
   and gpm.conf was
  
   Device/dev/psaux
  
   type   ps2
  
  
  
   Now, how do I get the cursor working in X???
  
   Again thanks for the help.
  
   John   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  I ran into this problem just yesterday on a newly installed Woody box.
  In /etc/X11/XF86Config, the line dev/gpmdata is *supposed* to work,
  but my symptoms were just like what you're describing. I finally gave up
  on trying to do it the right way, and set my XF86Config file to use
  /dev/psaux. From past experience, and from what I've read, this should
  cause a conflict with gpm, yet it didn't. In fact, everything started
  working just like it's supposed to.
 
  Kent
 
 
 
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Re: Fw: Still No Cursor in X Now Closer!

2001-01-30 Thread Casey Webster
gpm.conf:
 type=psw
   ^^^

is the only problem i can see with that, that should be ps2, and i've seen
very odd mouse behavior when a bad mouse type is specified.  other than
that i'm not sure what could be causing your problem

 On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, hammack wrote:

 Casey,  I am now closer.  I used your conf and got a cursor about 1 square
 in the X windows.  It looks as if the upper left corner is the cursor point.
 So now I have to get the cursor down to real life size.  Below is the conf I
 currently have that worked thanks to you.  Note the lines that I commetted
 out.  Thanks!  John.  Here is my present config:  Any suggestions on where I
 go from here??
 gpm.conf:
 device=/dev/psaux
 responsiveness=
 repeat_type=raw
 type=psw
 append=
 
 XF86Config Pointer section:
 Section Pointer
 ProtocolPS/2
 Device  /dev/gpmdata
 #   BaudRate1200
 #   Emulate3Timeout50
 #   Resolution   100
 #   Buttons   3   this line was commeted out before
 #   Emulate3Buttons
 EndSection
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Casey Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: hammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]; User Debian
 debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:06 PM
 Subject: Re: Still No Cursor in X
 
 
  sorry for the blank first message, hit ctrl-x instead of c...
 
  here is what is in my gpm.conf, and XF86Config, my mouse works fine under
  X and in console at the same time
 
  gpm.conf:
  device=/dev/psaux
  responsiveness=
  repeat_type=raw
  type=ps2
  append=
 
  XF86Config:
  Section Pointer
  ProtocolPS/2
  Device  /dev/gpmdata
  EndSection
 
  -casey
 
  On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Kent West wrote:
 
   hammack wrote:
  
Problem:  I cannot get a cursor in X with my PS/2 generic mouse.  I do
get a cursor in the Text mode and can cut and paste between VC's.  In
X I can click in the window and get menus to pop up and occasionally I
will lite up a button all in the blind.Below are the two
configurations that work.
   
   
   
XF86Config:
   
Protocol  PS/2
   
Device/dev/gpmdata
   
or
   
Protocol  PS/2
   
Device/dev/mouse
   
and gpm.conf was
   
Device/dev/psaux
   
type   ps2
   
   
   
Now, how do I get the cursor working in X???
   
Again thanks for the help.
   
John   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   I ran into this problem just yesterday on a newly installed Woody box.
   In /etc/X11/XF86Config, the line dev/gpmdata is *supposed* to work,
   but my symptoms were just like what you're describing. I finally gave up
   on trying to do it the right way, and set my XF86Config file to use
   /dev/psaux. From past experience, and from what I've read, this should
   cause a conflict with gpm, yet it didn't. In fact, everything started
   working just like it's supposed to.
  
   Kent
  
  
  
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Re: Still No Cursor in X About to give up!!

2001-01-30 Thread hammack
Casey, good eye on my type-O. The gpm.conf file type does read ps2.
While I thought I was closer I am not.  For a couple of times I had a 1
square inch cursor in the X mode.  But it went away.  When I committed out
the lines below in my XF86Config file I got the square cursor.  Then I tried
changing the Resolution (I don't know what that does) at 500 I got a 1-1/2 x
1/4 inch black vertical line.  In both the large cursors the upper left
point got response on point and click.  Then the cursor went away as I went
in and out of X.
Having been at this for about a month I am about readly to try other
options.
1. Another Distro
2.  Another appeal for help
3.  Go skiing.


- Original Message -
From: hammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: User Debian debian-user@lists.debian.org; Andrea Vettorello
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Xucaen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:11 PM
Subject: Fw: Still No Cursor in X Now Closer!


 Casey,  I am now closer.  I used your conf and got a cursor about 1
square
 in the X windows.  It looks as if the upper left corner is the cursor
point.
 So now I have to get the cursor down to real life size.  Below is the conf
I
 currently have that worked thanks to you.  Note the lines that I commetted
 out.  Thanks!  John.  Here is my present config:  Any suggestions on where
I
 go from here??
 gpm.conf:
 device=/dev/psaux
 responsiveness=
 repeat_type=raw
 type=ps2
 append=
 
 XF86Config Pointer section:
 Section Pointer
 ProtocolPS/2
 Device  /dev/gpmdata
 #   BaudRate1200
 #   Emulate3Timeout50
 #   Resolution   100
 #   Buttons   3   this line was commeted out before
 #   Emulate3Buttons
 EndSection



 - Original Message -
 From: Casey Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: hammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]; User Debian
 debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:06 PM
 Subject: Re: Still No Cursor in X


  sorry for the blank first message, hit ctrl-x instead of c...
 
  here is what is in my gpm.conf, and XF86Config, my mouse works fine
under
  X and in console at the same time
 
  gpm.conf:
  device=/dev/psaux
  responsiveness=
  repeat_type=raw
  type=ps2
  append=
 
  XF86Config:
  Section Pointer
  ProtocolPS/2
  Device  /dev/gpmdata
  EndSection
 
  -casey
 
  On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Kent West wrote:
 
   hammack wrote:
  
Problem:  I cannot get a cursor in X with my PS/2 generic mouse.  I
do
get a cursor in the Text mode and can cut and paste between VC's.
In
X I can click in the window and get menus to pop up and occasionally
I
will lite up a button all in the blind.Below are the two
configurations that work.
   
   
   
XF86Config:
   
Protocol  PS/2
   
Device/dev/gpmdata
   
or
   
Protocol  PS/2
   
Device/dev/mouse
   
and gpm.conf was
   
Device/dev/psaux
   
type   ps2
   
   
   
Now, how do I get the cursor working in X???
   
Again thanks for the help.
   
John   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   I ran into this problem just yesterday on a newly installed Woody box.
   In /etc/X11/XF86Config, the line dev/gpmdata is *supposed* to work,
   but my symptoms were just like what you're describing. I finally gave
up
   on trying to do it the right way, and set my XF86Config file to use
   /dev/psaux. From past experience, and from what I've read, this should
   cause a conflict with gpm, yet it didn't. In fact, everything started
   working just like it's supposed to.
  
   Kent
  
  
  
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Re: Still No Cursor in X About to give up!!

2001-01-30 Thread Erik Steffl
  did you try to turn off the gpm? you might have better luck to first
try to make it work under X without gpm.

  I have tried various mouse settings recently and got to the point that
mouse refused to work at all, both in gpm and X. I had to reboot, not
sure what happened. so try to turn o gpm completely off (so that it's
not even started during boot) and try to solve the mouse-in-X probl;em
first.

erik

hammack wrote:
 
 Casey, good eye on my type-O. The gpm.conf file type does read ps2.
 While I thought I was closer I am not.  For a couple of times I had a 1
 square inch cursor in the X mode.  But it went away.  When I committed out
 the lines below in my XF86Config file I got the square cursor.  Then I tried
 changing the Resolution (I don't know what that does) at 500 I got a 1-1/2 x
 1/4 inch black vertical line.  In both the large cursors the upper left
 point got response on point and click.  Then the cursor went away as I went
 in and out of X.
 Having been at this for about a month I am about readly to try other
 options.
 1. Another Distro
 2.  Another appeal for help
 3.  Go skiing.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: hammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: User Debian debian-user@lists.debian.org; Andrea Vettorello
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Xucaen [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:11 PM
 Subject: Fw: Still No Cursor in X Now Closer!
 
  Casey,  I am now closer.  I used your conf and got a cursor about 1
 square
  in the X windows.  It looks as if the upper left corner is the cursor
 point.
  So now I have to get the cursor down to real life size.  Below is the conf
 I
  currently have that worked thanks to you.  Note the lines that I commetted
  out.  Thanks!  John.  Here is my present config:  Any suggestions on where
 I
  go from here??
  gpm.conf:
  device=/dev/psaux
  responsiveness=
  repeat_type=raw
  type=ps2
  append=
  
  XF86Config Pointer section:
  Section Pointer
  ProtocolPS/2
  Device  /dev/gpmdata
  #   BaudRate1200
  #   Emulate3Timeout50
  #   Resolution   100
  #   Buttons   3   this line was commeted out before
  #   Emulate3Buttons
  EndSection
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Casey Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: hammack [EMAIL PROTECTED]; User Debian
  debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:06 PM
  Subject: Re: Still No Cursor in X
 
 
   sorry for the blank first message, hit ctrl-x instead of c...
  
   here is what is in my gpm.conf, and XF86Config, my mouse works fine
 under
   X and in console at the same time
  
   gpm.conf:
   device=/dev/psaux
   responsiveness=
   repeat_type=raw
   type=ps2
   append=
  
   XF86Config:
   Section Pointer
   ProtocolPS/2
   Device  /dev/gpmdata
   EndSection
  
   -casey
  
   On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Kent West wrote:
  
hammack wrote:
   
 Problem:  I cannot get a cursor in X with my PS/2 generic mouse.  I
 do
 get a cursor in the Text mode and can cut and paste between VC's.
 In
 X I can click in the window and get menus to pop up and occasionally
 I
 will lite up a button all in the blind.Below are the two
 configurations that work.



 XF86Config:

 Protocol  PS/2

 Device/dev/gpmdata

 or

 Protocol  PS/2

 Device/dev/mouse

 and gpm.conf was

 Device/dev/psaux

 type   ps2



 Now, how do I get the cursor working in X???

 Again thanks for the help.

 John   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I ran into this problem just yesterday on a newly installed Woody box.
In /etc/X11/XF86Config, the line dev/gpmdata is *supposed* to work,
but my symptoms were just like what you're describing. I finally gave
 up
on trying to do it the right way, and set my XF86Config file to use
/dev/psaux. From past experience, and from what I've read, this should
cause a conflict with gpm, yet it didn't. In fact, everything started
working just like it's supposed to.
   
Kent



Re: Still No Cursor in X About to give up!!

2001-01-30 Thread ktb
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 09:34:40AM -0800, hammack wrote:
 Casey, good eye on my type-O. The gpm.conf file type does read ps2.
 While I thought I was closer I am not.  For a couple of times I had a 1
 square inch cursor in the X mode.  But it went away.  When I committed out
 the lines below in my XF86Config file I got the square cursor.  Then I tried
 changing the Resolution (I don't know what that does) at 500 I got a 1-1/2 x
 1/4 inch black vertical line.  In both the large cursors the upper left
 point got response on point and click.  Then the cursor went away as I went
 in and out of X.
 Having been at this for about a month I am about readly to try other
 options.
 1. Another Distro
 2.  Another appeal for help
 3.  Go skiing.
 

Kill gpm and it should work.
/etc/init.d/gpm stop
kent

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Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-30 Thread Jose Gracia Neto
I had the same problem with my serial mouse.

Here is what works for me; you can adapt to your ps/2 mouse:

for gpm.conf, use directly /dev/psaux

for XF86Config, use /dev/mouse

in the /dev directory, create a symlink by typing:

ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse

Somehow in that way both applications finally share the device.

Sincerely,

Jose Gracia Neto

hammack wrote:

 Andrea, Thanks for the response.  I think I tried your suggestins.  Below is
 my setup for the mouse in gpm.config and XF86Config:
 gpm.config:
 device=/dev/psaux
 responsiveness=
 repeat_type=raw
 type=psw
 append=
 
 XF86Config Pointer section:
 Section Pointer
 ProtocolPS/2
 Device  /dev/gpmdata
BaudRate1200
Emulate3Timeout50
Resolution   100
 #  Buttons   3   this line is commeted out
Emulate3Buttons
 EndSection
 
 I am about to give up and so skiing.  Thanks John
 - Original Message -
 From: Andrea Vettorello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Cc: User Debian debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 12:29 PM
 Subject: Re: Still No Cursor in X

  hammack wrote:
 
   Problem:  I cannot get a cursor in X with my PS/2 generic mouse.  I do
   get a cursor in the Text mode and can cut and paste between VC's.  In
   X I can click in the window and get menus to pop up and occasionally I
   will lite up a button all in the blind.Below are the two
   configurations that work. XF86Config:Protocol  PS/2Device
   /dev/gpmdataorProtocol  PS/2Device/dev/mouseand gpm.conf
   wasDevice/dev/psauxtype   ps2
 
  Try adding in your gpm.conf the line repeat_type=raw...
 
 
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Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-29 Thread Kent West

hammack wrote:

Problem:  I cannot get a cursor in X with my PS/2 generic mouse.  I do 
get a cursor in the Text mode and can cut and paste between VC's.  In 
X I can click in the window and get menus to pop up and occasionally I 
will lite up a button all in the blind.Below are the two 
configurations that work.  

 


XF86Config:

Protocol  PS/2

Device/dev/gpmdata

or

Protocol  PS/2

Device/dev/mouse

and gpm.conf was

Device/dev/psaux

type   ps2

 


Now, how do I get the cursor working in X???

Again thanks for the help.

John   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

I ran into this problem just yesterday on a newly installed Woody box. 
In /etc/X11/XF86Config, the line dev/gpmdata is *supposed* to work, 
but my symptoms were just like what you're describing. I finally gave up 
on trying to do it the right way, and set my XF86Config file to use 
/dev/psaux. From past experience, and from what I've read, this should 
cause a conflict with gpm, yet it didn't. In fact, everything started 
working just like it's supposed to.


Kent




Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-29 Thread Casey Webster
sorry for the blank first message, hit ctrl-x instead of c...

here is what is in my gpm.conf, and XF86Config, my mouse works fine under
X and in console at the same time

gpm.conf:
device=/dev/psaux
responsiveness=
repeat_type=raw
type=ps2
append=

XF86Config:
Section Pointer
ProtocolPS/2
Device  /dev/gpmdata
EndSection

-casey

On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Kent West wrote:

 hammack wrote:
 
  Problem:  I cannot get a cursor in X with my PS/2 generic mouse.  I do 
  get a cursor in the Text mode and can cut and paste between VC's.  In 
  X I can click in the window and get menus to pop up and occasionally I 
  will lite up a button all in the blind.Below are the two 
  configurations that work.  
  
   
  
  XF86Config:
  
  Protocol  PS/2
  
  Device/dev/gpmdata
  
  or
  
  Protocol  PS/2
  
  Device/dev/mouse
  
  and gpm.conf was
  
  Device/dev/psaux
  
  type   ps2
  
   
  
  Now, how do I get the cursor working in X???
  
  Again thanks for the help.
  
  John   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
  
 I ran into this problem just yesterday on a newly installed Woody box. 
 In /etc/X11/XF86Config, the line dev/gpmdata is *supposed* to work, 
 but my symptoms were just like what you're describing. I finally gave up 
 on trying to do it the right way, and set my XF86Config file to use 
 /dev/psaux. From past experience, and from what I've read, this should 
 cause a conflict with gpm, yet it didn't. In fact, everything started 
 working just like it's supposed to.
 
 Kent
 
 
 
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Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-29 Thread Xucaen

--- hammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 XF86Config:
 Protocol  PS/2
 Device/dev/gpmdata
 or
 Protocol  PS/2
 Device/dev/mouse
 and gpm.conf was 
 Device/dev/psaux
 type   ps2
 

I may be mistaken, but doesn't the device need to
be exactly the same in both?

xucaen


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Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-29 Thread Andrea Vettorello
hammack wrote:

 Problem:  I cannot get a cursor in X with my PS/2 generic mouse.  I do
 get a cursor in the Text mode and can cut and paste between VC's.  In
 X I can click in the window and get menus to pop up and occasionally I
 will lite up a button all in the blind.Below are the two
 configurations that work. XF86Config:Protocol  PS/2Device
 /dev/gpmdataorProtocol  PS/2Device/dev/mouseand gpm.conf
 wasDevice/dev/psauxtype   ps2

Try adding in your gpm.conf the line repeat_type=raw...


Andrea





Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-29 Thread hammack
Andrea, Thanks for the response.  I think I tried your suggestins.  Below is
my setup for the mouse in gpm.config and XF86Config:
gpm.config:
device=/dev/psaux
responsiveness=
repeat_type=raw
type=psw
append=

XF86Config Pointer section:
Section Pointer
ProtocolPS/2
Device  /dev/gpmdata
   BaudRate1200
   Emulate3Timeout50
   Resolution   100
#  Buttons   3   this line is commeted out
   Emulate3Buttons
EndSection

I am about to give up and so skiing.  Thanks John
- Original Message -
From: Andrea Vettorello [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: User Debian debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: Still No Cursor in X


 hammack wrote:

  Problem:  I cannot get a cursor in X with my PS/2 generic mouse.  I do
  get a cursor in the Text mode and can cut and paste between VC's.  In
  X I can click in the window and get menus to pop up and occasionally I
  will lite up a button all in the blind.Below are the two
  configurations that work. XF86Config:Protocol  PS/2Device
  /dev/gpmdataorProtocol  PS/2Device/dev/mouseand gpm.conf
  wasDevice/dev/psauxtype   ps2

 Try adding in your gpm.conf the line repeat_type=raw...


 Andrea




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Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-28 Thread hammack




Problem: I cannot get a cursor in X with my 
PS/2 generic mouse. I do get a cursor in the Text mode and can cut and 
paste between VC's.In XI can click in the window and get menus 
to pop up and occasionally I will lite up a button all in the blind. 
 Beloware the two configurations that work. 

XF86Config:
Protocol "PS/2"
Device "/dev/gpmdata"
or
Protocol "PS/2"
Device "/dev/mouse"
and gpm.conf was 
Device /dev/psaux
type ps2

Now, how do I getthe cursor working in 
X???
Again thanks for the help.
John [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



Re: Still No Cursor in X

2001-01-28 Thread ktb
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 08:41:16PM -0800, hammack wrote:
 Problem:  I cannot get a cursor in X with my PS/2 generic mouse.  I do get a 
 cursor in the Text mode and can cut and paste between VC's.  In X I can click 
 in the window and get menus to pop up and occasionally I will lite up a 
 button all in the blind.Below are the two configurations that work.  
 
 XF86Config:
 Protocol  PS/2
 Device/dev/gpmdata
 or
 Protocol  PS/2
 Device/dev/mouse
 and gpm.conf was 
 Device/dev/psaux
 type   ps2
 
 Now, how do I get the cursor working in X???
 Again thanks for the help.
 John   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   

Many people are having problems with their mouse when running X and at
the same time the console mouse server gpm.  You can check the
archives for info on this.  Personally I just shut down gpm with -
# /etc/init.d/gpm stop
Then my mouse works fine in X.  I did have my mouse working in 
both environments at one time.  I think I had the configuration in
XF86Config the same as the top one in the snip you posted.  The trouble
was in the bargain I lost my scroll button.  For the time being I just
have aliases for starting and stopping gpm and use those when I switch
environments.
hth,
kent

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