Re: Upgrade from woody to sarge - ssh strangeness

2007-01-15 Thread The Fungi
Probably more suited to debian-user, so I have Cc'd and set MFT
accordingly.

On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 02:43:09PM +0100, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
[...]
 Everything works linux (woody, sarge and dapper) to linux, but from
 windows (SecureCRT) to linux, I don't even get the option to enter
 a password...
[...]
 [SSH LOCAL ONLY] : RECV : USERAUTH_FAILURE, continuations 
 [publickey,keyboard-interactive]
 [SSH LOCAL ONLY] : SEND: Disconnect packet: Unable to authenticate using any 
 of the configured authentication methods.
[...]
 Received disconnect from windows_machine_behind_linux_NAT_firewall: 14: 
 Unable to authenticate using any of the configured authentication methods.
[...]

If memory serves, you need to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config, uncomment
the PasswordAuthentication yes line, and reload ssh.

 The SecureCRT version is a little old, but...
[...]

Yeah, I believe newer versions of SecureCRT support not only
password but also the newer keyboard-interactive authentication.
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Re: help with upgrade from woody to sarge...

2006-08-09 Thread hendrik
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 11:23:38PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:

 Go to another machine and Make yourself a GRUB boot CD (or, if you
 prefer, a boot floppy).  You can boot from the GRUB CD, and then repair
 your system.  Everybody ought to keep a GRUB boot CD handy!

How do you make a grub boot CD or floppy?
And how do you use it?


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Re: help with upgrade from woody to sarge...

2006-08-09 Thread Johannes Wiedersich

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How do you make a grub boot CD or floppy?
And how do you use it?


/usr/share/doc/grub/README
contains a link to grub's home page. This contains an excellent manual 
with all the information you require - and much more...


alternatively you could install grub-doc and then find the information in
/usr/share/doc/grub-doc

chapter 3, Installation describes to install grub on hard disk, floppy, 
or cd-rom


To use it: just set your bios to boot from floppy/CD-rom.

Johannes


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Re: help with upgrade from woody to sarge...

2006-08-09 Thread Hodgins Family
On Wed, 2006-09-08 at 08:08 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 11:23:38PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
 
  Go to another machine and Make yourself a GRUB boot CD (or, if you
  prefer, a boot floppy).  You can boot from the GRUB CD, and then repair
  your system.  Everybody ought to keep a GRUB boot CD handy!
 
 How do you make a grub boot CD or floppy?
 And how do you use it?

This might help:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/4622

Also, googling for grub boot floppy gives a whole days worth reading.

Grab a beverage and enjoy!



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Re: help with upgrade from woody to sarge...

2006-08-09 Thread Russell L. Harris
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 On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 11:23:38PM -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:

 Go to another machine and Make yourself a GRUB boot CD (or, if you
 prefer, a boot floppy).  You can boot from the GRUB CD, and then repair
 your system.  Everybody ought to keep a GRUB boot CD handy!

 How do you make a grub boot CD or floppy?
 And how do you use it?

If you have a CD burner and can access the Internet, simply download the
CD ISO image for the GRUB boot CD.  Use Google to search for the image,
or go to the GRUB web site.

Once you have burned the ISO image to CD, go to the machine you wish to
boot, set the BIOS to boot from CD, insert the CD, and press the RESET
button.

The fact that you already have LILO installed as a boot manager on the
machine doesn't matter.  

If you read the GRUB manual, you can learn how to use GRUB to explore
your drives and find and boot any of the operating systems you have
installed.  GRUB can boot anything.  

You can boot from the GRUB CD, or you can use the GRUB CD to install
GRUB as a replacement for LILO.  GRUB is really nice and easy to
install, configure, and use.

One of the first things you may wish to do after you install GRUB is to
go to the configuration file, which is '/boot/grub/menu.lst' and place a
'#' at the beginning of the line which reads 'timeout 5'.  This
comments-out the timeout parameter, so that GRUB waits until you make a
selection; otherwise, GRUB automatically boots the default selection
once the timeout expires.  Or you may wish to increase the timeout
parameter from 5 (seconds) to 15 or so; 5 seconds is a little short.

RLH


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help with upgrade from woody to sarge...

2006-08-08 Thread Mario Flores

Hi,

I have upgraded from woody to sarge and after a very long list of  
packages being installed, my system is a mess:


Right after the upgrade, I launched X and kdm (I had kdm and kde  
working fine prior to the upgrade) and at log in, it tried to launch  
gnome, and it could not create a desktop. I managed to log out. Then  
I restarted the system and found that it could not boot again. The  
computer is stuck at lilo (it only prints out the first two letters:  
LI) and then it hungs.


I don't have any important stuff on it so I can re-format the HD and  
do a clean install. However, if there's something else I can do that  
would not take all that time, I would like to try it.


But first, what can I do to make it bootable again? or at least boot  
from a cd?


Thanks,

Mario Flores
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Re: help with upgrade from woody to sarge...

2006-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 10:48:10PM -0400, Mario Flores wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have upgraded from woody to sarge and after a very long list of  
 packages being installed, my system is a mess:
 
 Right after the upgrade, I launched X and kdm (I had kdm and kde  
 working fine prior to the upgrade) and at log in, it tried to launch  
 gnome, and it could not create a desktop. I managed to log out. Then  
 I restarted the system and found that it could not boot again. The  
 computer is stuck at lilo (it only prints out the first two letters:  
 LI) and then it hungs.
 
 I don't have any important stuff on it so I can re-format the HD and  
 do a clean install. However, if there's something else I can do that  
 would not take all that time, I would like to try it.
 
 But first, what can I do to make it bootable again? or at least boot  
 from a cd?

boot from knoppix and chroot in to redo your lilo might work.

A


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Re: help with upgrade from woody to sarge...

2006-08-08 Thread Mumia W.

On 08/08/2006 09:48 PM, Mario Flores wrote:

Hi,

I have upgraded from woody to sarge and after a very long list of 
packages being installed, my system is a mess:


Right after the upgrade, I launched X and kdm (I had kdm and kde working 
fine prior to the upgrade) and at log in, it tried to launch gnome, and 
it could not create a desktop. I managed to log out. Then I restarted 
the system and found that it could not boot again. The computer is stuck 
at lilo (it only prints out the first two letters: LI) and then it hungs.




Use a bootable Linux CD to fix your /etc/lilo.conf.

LILO and lilo.conf have man-pages:
man lilo
man lilo.conf

After you have put the right stuff into /etc/lilo.conf, you'll 
have to tell lilo to install the bootloader and rebuild its 
map file. I've you've booted from a CD, and your Debian 
installation does _not_ use udev, and you've mounted your root 
partition under /mnt/myroot/, then you can probably do this:


lilo -v -r /mnt/myroot

This tells lilo to chroot into your Debian installation's root 
directory before reading the /etc/lilo.conf file and accessing 
the device notes /dev. If you use udev, /dev might not be 
populated properly, and so all bets are off.



I don't have any important stuff on it so I can re-format the HD and do 
a clean install. However, if there's something else I can do that would 
not take all that time, I would like to try it.


But first, what can I do to make it bootable again? or at least boot 
from a cd?




Knoppix and Kanotix are the best boot CDs probably, but you 
can also probably use the first Debian installation CD to 
boot. However, AFAIK, that CD wants to install GRUB as the 
bootloader--not LILO.


And allowing it to do that might not be such a bad idea since 
Sarge's default boot loader is GRUB.



Thanks,
[...]


You're welcome and good luck.




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Re: help with upgrade from woody to sarge...

2006-08-08 Thread Russell L. Harris
Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 10:48:10PM -0400, Mario Flores wrote:
 I have upgraded from woody to sarge and after a very long list of  
 packages being installed, my system is a mess:
 
 Right after the upgrade, I launched X and kdm (I had kdm and kde  
 working fine prior to the upgrade) and at log in, it tried to launch  
 gnome, and it could not create a desktop. I managed to log out. Then  
 I restarted the system and found that it could not boot again. The  
 computer is stuck at lilo (it only prints out the first two letters:  
 LI) and then it hungs.
 
 I don't have any important stuff on it so I can re-format the HD and  
 do a clean install. However, if there's something else I can do that  
 would not take all that time, I would like to try it.
 
 But first, what can I do to make it bootable again? or at least boot  
 from a cd?


Why are you messing around with LILO?  LILO is obsolescent, if not
obsolete.  (I've forgotten; perhaps LILO still was an option with
Woody.)  You should be using GRUB, which is the boot loader which newer
Debian systems install by default.

Go to another machine and Make yourself a GRUB boot CD (or, if you
prefer, a boot floppy).  You can boot from the GRUB CD, and then repair
your system.  Everybody ought to keep a GRUB boot CD handy!

RLH


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Re: pager changed after upgrade from woody to sarge:

2005-09-06 Thread Bob Proulx
James Haskell wrote:
 my /etc/inputrc (without comments) is:
   set input-meta on
   set output-meta on
 so, i don't think my readline configuration is the
 cause.

That looks normal.

The problem now is that what you describe sounds really normal to me.
And apparently to the other responders.  But what you described as
your previous behavior is what I can't explain.  I don't see that on
my old woody machines.  I can't explain your previous behavior.

 just curious, what version(s) of bash and libreadline
 do you have installed on your sarge machine.  i have
 bash (version 2.05b-26)
 libreadline4 (version 4.3-11)
 libreadline5 (version 5.0-10)

As much as possible I run released stable systems.  So I am running
the Sarge versions, the same as you show here.  I just looked and Bash
actually uses a statically compiled in version of libreadline.  So
that will be the same if the bash version is the same.

Bob


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pager changed after upgrade from woody to sarge:

2005-09-05 Thread James Haskell
hello all,

i just upgraded from woody to sarge, and it *seems*
that in the process, my pager has changed from
/usr/bin/less to /bin/more.
e.g. if i type:
cd /usr/include/ tab tab
bash displays:
Display all 370 possibilities? (y or n)
when i type y, bash lists the files using /bin/more.

chase `which pager` says that /usr/bin/pager points to
/usr/bin/less.

how do i get less to be my default pager?  and am i
correct in concluding that the upgrade changed my pager?




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Re: pager changed after upgrade from woody to sarge:

2005-09-05 Thread Thomas Adam

--- James Haskell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hello all,
 
 i just upgraded from woody to sarge, and it *seems*
 that in the process, my pager has changed from
 /usr/bin/less to /bin/more.
 e.g. if i type:
 cd /usr/include/ tab tab
 bash displays:
 Display all 370 possibilities? (y or n)
 when i type y, bash lists the files using /bin/more.
 
 chase `which pager` says that /usr/bin/pager points to
 /usr/bin/less.

As root:

update-alternatives --config pager

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Re: pager changed after upgrade from woody to sarge:

2005-09-05 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 the mental interface of
James Haskell told:

 hello all,
 
 i just upgraded from woody to sarge, and it *seems*
 that in the process, my pager has changed from
 /usr/bin/less to /bin/more.
 e.g. if i type:
 cd /usr/include/ tab tab
 bash displays:
 Display all 370 possibilities? (y or n)
 when i type y, bash lists the files using /bin/more.
 
 chase `which pager` says that /usr/bin/pager points to
 /usr/bin/less.
 
 how do i get less to be my default pager?  and am i
 correct in concluding that the upgrade changed my pager?

echo export PAGER=less  .bashrc
echo export aCeiMs=LESS  .bashrc #Change less options to your needs.

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Re: pager changed after upgrade from woody to sarge:

2005-09-05 Thread Bob Proulx
James Haskell wrote:
 i just upgraded from woody to sarge, and it *seems*
 that in the process, my pager has changed from
 /usr/bin/less to /bin/more.
 e.g. if i type:
 cd /usr/include/ tab tab
 bash displays:
 Display all 370 possibilities? (y or n)
 when i type y, bash lists the files using /bin/more.

Are you sure that it is /bin/more and not the bash readline built-in
pager?  The documentation for readline which is used by bash says
this:

   page-completions (On)
  If set to On, readline uses an internal more-like pager to
  display a screenful of possible completions at a time.

I believe you are seeing the built-in pager and not the external one.
I do not think bash spawns an external pager for this operation.

 chase `which pager` says that /usr/bin/pager points to
 /usr/bin/less.

No need to chase.  Just use ask the system.

  update-alternatives --display pager

 how do i get less to be my default pager?  and am i
 correct in concluding that the upgrade changed my pager?

I think you are incorrect.  I do not believe bash is using an external
pager.  I just now tested a woody and a sarge system and could not see
any noticeable difference in how bash operates with regards to
completion.  If you are seeing differences I am guessing it has to do
with bash and libreadline upgrades combined with your own personal
readline configuration.

For me both used the bash readline internal built-in pager.  It says
--more-- but that does not mean it is using the /bin/more external
program.  It is using the built-in.  You can verify this for yourself
by looking at the 'ps -efH' output and seeing that your command shell
is not spawning any external commands while in the built-in pager.
(Hint: Use the tty to find the other bash shell.)

Bob


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Re: pager changed after upgrade from woody to sarge:

2005-09-05 Thread James Vahn
James Haskell wrote:
 i just upgraded from woody to sarge, and it *seems*
 that in the process, my pager has changed from
 /usr/bin/less to /bin/more.
 e.g. if i type:
 cd /usr/include/ tab tab
 bash displays:
 Display all 370 possibilities? (y or n)
 when i type y, bash lists the files using /bin/more.

Not really, it's an internal pager similar to /bin/more. Differs from the
system pager that programs like man use. Previously bash didn't page at
all, if I recall correctly.

   $ man bash
   /pager  # use the search function
   
   page-completions (On)
  If set to On, readline uses an internal more-like pager to
  display a screenful of possible completions at a time.

Edit or create ~/.inputrc to contain the line:

set page-completions off

and new instances of bash will no longer use the internal pager.


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Re: pager changed after upgrade from woody to sarge:

2005-09-05 Thread Bob Proulx
James Vahn wrote:
 Edit or create ~/.inputrc to contain the line:
 
 set page-completions off
 
 and new instances of bash will no longer use the internal pager.

I think you knew this but just did not say it explicitly.  But for the
original poster...

But then no pager will be used at all.  All of the output will
scroll.  This still will not cause bash to use an external pager.  It
just won't say --more-- ever again.  But I don't think that is what
is really wanted.  :-)

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Re: pager changed after upgrade from woody to sarge:

2005-09-05 Thread Peter J Ross
On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 06:55:09AM -0700, James Haskell wrote:

 hello all,
 
 i just upgraded from woody to sarge, and it *seems*
 that in the process, my pager has changed from
 /usr/bin/less to /bin/more.
 e.g. if i type:
 cd /usr/include/ tab tab
 bash displays:
 Display all 370 possibilities? (y or n)
 when i type y, bash lists the files using /bin/more.

AFAIK, it shouldn't be using an external pager at all; it should
simply write to stdout.

 chase `which pager` says that /usr/bin/pager points to
 /usr/bin/less.

That seems right.

 how do i get less to be my default pager?  and am i
 correct in concluding that the upgrade changed my pager?

It seems that less *is* your default pager. What happens if you try

$ ls /usr/include/ | pager

?


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Re: pager changed after upgrade from woody to sarge:

2005-09-05 Thread James Haskell
Thomas,

as root, i ran:
update-alternatives --config pager

here is the output:
There are 4 alternatives which provide `pager'.

  SelectionAlternative
---
  1/bin/more
*+2/usr/bin/less
  3/usr/bin/most
  4/usr/bin/w3m

Press enter to keep the default[*], or type selection
number: 2
Using `/usr/bin/less' to provide `pager'.

unfortunately, this did not fix my problem. looks like
less is already my default pager; i do not override
this in ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc.

--- Thomas Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 --- James Haskell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hello all,
  
  i just upgraded from woody to sarge, and it
 *seems*
  that in the process, my pager has changed from
  /usr/bin/less to /bin/more.
  e.g. if i type:
  cd /usr/include/ tab tab
  bash displays:
  Display all 370 possibilities? (y or n)
  when i type y, bash lists the files using
 /bin/more.
  
  chase `which pager` says that /usr/bin/pager
 points to
  /usr/bin/less.
 
 As root:
 
 update-alternatives --config pager
 
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Re: pager changed after upgrade from woody to sarge:

2005-09-05 Thread James Haskell
Peter,

the result of running:
ls /usr/include/ | pager
is that the output of ls is piped to less.  i think
your're right in that less is already my default
pager.

--- Peter J Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 06:55:09AM -0700, James
 Haskell wrote:
 
  hello all,
  
  i just upgraded from woody to sarge, and it
 *seems*
  that in the process, my pager has changed from
  /usr/bin/less to /bin/more.
  e.g. if i type:
  cd /usr/include/ tab tab
  bash displays:
  Display all 370 possibilities? (y or n)
  when i type y, bash lists the files using
 /bin/more.
 
 AFAIK, it shouldn't be using an external pager at
 all; it should
 simply write to stdout.
 
  chase `which pager` says that /usr/bin/pager
 points to
  /usr/bin/less.
 
 That seems right.
 
  how do i get less to be my default pager?  and am
 i
  correct in concluding that the upgrade changed my
 pager?
 
 It seems that less *is* your default pager. What
 happens if you try
 
 $ ls /usr/include/ | pager
 
 ?
 
 
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Re: pager changed after upgrade from woody to sarge:

2005-09-05 Thread James Haskell
Bob,

you're right.  after trying the 'ps -efH', i can
verify that bash is using the built-in pager and not
/bin/more.

 If you are seeing differences I am guessing it has
to  do with bash and libreadline upgrades combined
with
 your own personal readline configuration.

my /etc/inputrc (without comments) is:
  set input-meta on
  set output-meta on
so, i don't think my readline configuration is the
cause.

just curious, what version(s) of bash and libreadline
do you have installed on your sarge machine.  i have
bash (version 2.05b-26)
libreadline4 (version 4.3-11)
libreadline5 (version 5.0-10)

thanks.

--- Bob Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 James Haskell wrote:
  i just upgraded from woody to sarge, and it
 *seems*
  that in the process, my pager has changed from
  /usr/bin/less to /bin/more.
  e.g. if i type:
  cd /usr/include/ tab tab
  bash displays:
  Display all 370 possibilities? (y or n)
  when i type y, bash lists the files using
 /bin/more.
 
 Are you sure that it is /bin/more and not the bash
 readline built-in
 pager?  The documentation for readline which is used
 by bash says
 this:
 
page-completions (On)
   If set to On, readline uses an
 internal more-like pager to
   display a screenful of possible
 completions at a time.
 
 I believe you are seeing the built-in pager and not
 the external one.
 I do not think bash spawns an external pager for
 this operation.
 
  chase `which pager` says that /usr/bin/pager
 points to
  /usr/bin/less.
 
 No need to chase.  Just use ask the system.
 
   update-alternatives --display pager
 
  how do i get less to be my default pager?  and am
 i
  correct in concluding that the upgrade changed my
 pager?
 
 I think you are incorrect.  I do not believe bash is
 using an external
 pager.  I just now tested a woody and a sarge system
 and could not see
 any noticeable difference in how bash operates with
 regards to
 completion.  If you are seeing differences I am
 guessing it has to do
 with bash and libreadline upgrades combined with
 your own personal
 readline configuration.
 
 For me both used the bash readline internal built-in
 pager.  It says
 --more-- but that does not mean it is using the
 /bin/more external
 program.  It is using the built-in.  You can verify
 this for yourself
 by looking at the 'ps -efH' output and seeing that
 your command shell
 is not spawning any external commands while in the
 built-in pager.
 (Hint: Use the tty to find the other bash shell.)
 
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Re: pager changed after upgrade from woody to sarge:

2005-09-05 Thread James Haskell
Bob,

in my previous post, i forgot to mention that i have
no ~/.inputrc file.

--- Bob Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 James Haskell wrote:
  i just upgraded from woody to sarge, and it
 *seems*
  that in the process, my pager has changed from
  /usr/bin/less to /bin/more.
  e.g. if i type:
  cd /usr/include/ tab tab
  bash displays:
  Display all 370 possibilities? (y or n)
  when i type y, bash lists the files using
 /bin/more.
 
 Are you sure that it is /bin/more and not the bash
 readline built-in
 pager?  The documentation for readline which is used
 by bash says
 this:
 
page-completions (On)
   If set to On, readline uses an
 internal more-like pager to
   display a screenful of possible
 completions at a time.
 
 I believe you are seeing the built-in pager and not
 the external one.
 I do not think bash spawns an external pager for
 this operation.
 
  chase `which pager` says that /usr/bin/pager
 points to
  /usr/bin/less.
 
 No need to chase.  Just use ask the system.
 
   update-alternatives --display pager
 
  how do i get less to be my default pager?  and am
 i
  correct in concluding that the upgrade changed my
 pager?
 
 I think you are incorrect.  I do not believe bash is
 using an external
 pager.  I just now tested a woody and a sarge system
 and could not see
 any noticeable difference in how bash operates with
 regards to
 completion.  If you are seeing differences I am
 guessing it has to do
 with bash and libreadline upgrades combined with
 your own personal
 readline configuration.
 
 For me both used the bash readline internal built-in
 pager.  It says
 --more-- but that does not mean it is using the
 /bin/more external
 program.  It is using the built-in.  You can verify
 this for yourself
 by looking at the 'ps -efH' output and seeing that
 your command shell
 is not spawning any external commands while in the
 built-in pager.
 (Hint: Use the tty to find the other bash shell.)
 
 Bob
 


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Re: pager changed after upgrade from woody to sarge:

2005-09-05 Thread James Haskell
elimar,

i tried:
echo export PAGER=less  ~/.bashrc
echo export aCeiMs=LESS  ~/.bashrc

not sure about the second line; shouldn't it be
echo export LESS=aCeiMs  ~/.bashrc

anyway i tried both ways -- unfortunately, neither of
these work.  if you follow this thread, it seems that
less is already my default pager; bash is using an
internal more-like pager.

--- Elimar Riesebieter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 the mental interface of
 James Haskell told:
 
  hello all,
  
  i just upgraded from woody to sarge, and it
 *seems*
  that in the process, my pager has changed from
  /usr/bin/less to /bin/more.
  e.g. if i type:
  cd /usr/include/ tab tab
  bash displays:
  Display all 370 possibilities? (y or n)
  when i type y, bash lists the files using
 /bin/more.
  
  chase `which pager` says that /usr/bin/pager
 points to
  /usr/bin/less.
  
  how do i get less to be my default pager?  and am
 i
  correct in concluding that the upgrade changed my
 pager?
 
 echo export PAGER=less  .bashrc
 echo export aCeiMs=LESS  .bashrc #Change less
 options to your needs.
 
 Elimar
 
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Name resolver problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2005-09-02 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Hi,

(sorry if you receive this twice, I sent it a couple of days ago but
the email has still not appeared in the archives, so I try again)

I have just upgraded my machine at home from woody to sarge and now the
name resolution doesn't work anymore. To be more precise, programs such
as Mozilla or lynx don't manage to lookup any names, but i can use host
or dig or nslookup (or even socket.gethostbyname(...) in Python) without
problems. Also, once I have looked up a name using host, for example,
then Mozilla can also find it, at least for some minutes of time.

I have tried looking in different documents and HOWTO:s and Google but
haven't found anything really related. Also, I don't know the inner
workings of name resolution in Linux, so I may have missed something
obvious.

Some facts on my setup:
- I use an ADSL connection with a combined ADSL modem/router configured
  as a DNS relay.
- ifup seems to detect this setup correctly and writes
nameserver 192.168.1.1
  in /etc/resolv.conf
- Since I only have 2 machines connected to the router, I haven't setup
  any DNS for my private network and have simply added a line
192.168.1.2 MatsPC
  in /etc/hosts

At the moment, I don't really have any clue on where to search, so any
hints are welcome.

   /Mats


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Name resolver problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2005-08-31 Thread Mats Bengtsson

Hi,

I have just upgraded my machine at home from woody to sarge and now the
name resolution doesn't work anymore. To be more precise, programs such
as Mozilla or lynx don't manage to lookup any names, but i can use host
or dig or nslookup (or even socket.gethostbyname(...) in Python) without
problems. Also, once I have looked up a name using host, for example,
then Mozilla can also find it, at least for some minutes of time.

I have tried looking in different documents and HOWTO:s and Google but
haven't found anything really related. Also, I don't know the inner
workings of name resolution in Linux, so I may have missed something
obvious.

Some facts on my setup:
- I use an ADSL connection with a combined ADSL modem/router configured
  as a DNS relay.
- ifup seems to detect this setup correctly and writes
nameserver 192.168.1.1
  in /etc/resolv.conf
- Since I only have 2 machines connected to the router, I haven't setup
  any DNS for my private network and have simply added a line
192.168.1.2 MatsPC
  in /etc/hosts

At the moment, I don't really have any clue on where to search, so any
hints are welcome.

   /Mats


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Re: Name resolver problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2005-08-31 Thread Cameron L. Spitzer
[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mats Bengtsson wrote:
 Hi,

 I have just upgraded my machine at home from woody to sarge and now the
 name resolution doesn't work anymore. To be more precise, programs such
 as Mozilla or lynx don't manage to lookup any names, but i can use host
 or dig or nslookup (or even socket.gethostbyname(...) in Python) without

My impression is Mozilla only reads /etc/resolv.conf
once, when it's launched.  If you change resolv.conf,
you have to exit mozilla and start a new one.
I haven't seen Lynx have that problem.



 problems. Also, once I have looked up a name using host, for example,
 then Mozilla can also find it, at least for some minutes of time.

In that case, I would look for a problem with the forwarder
(dns cache) that you're pointing at with resolv.conf.


 I have tried looking in different documents and HOWTO:s and Google but
 haven't found anything really related. Also, I don't know the inner
 workings of name resolution in Linux, so I may have missed something
 obvious.

 Some facts on my setup:
 - I use an ADSL connection with a combined ADSL modem/router configured
as a DNS relay.
 - ifup seems to detect this setup correctly and writes
 nameserver 192.168.1.1
in /etc/resolv.conf

Is there really a name server at 192.168.1.1?  Does it work?  Try
  host kernel.org 192.168.1.1
and see.



 - Since I only have 2 machines connected to the router, I haven't setup
any DNS for my private network and have simply added a line
 192.168.1.2 MatsPC
in /etc/hosts

 At the moment, I don't really have any clue on where to search, so any
 hints are welcome.

While you're working on your home network, routers, resolv.conf,
ifup/down, etc, use a reliable name server on the public Internet.
After everything else is working, *then* worry about a local
forwarder.  Maybe you don't need one.  Don't assume the name server
you're told about by DHCP actually works.

There are still a lot of name servers around that answer all
queries from everywhere.  They'll die (or be secured) if somebody
publishes software that uses them by default, but short of that
the potential for abuse isn't too bad.  Pick half a dozen of
your favorite ISPs and look up their name servers in whois.
Try all the listed name servers.  Some will work, some won't.

Chances are you'll find at least two that answer queries about
unrelated domains as well.  A certain large telco on the West
coast of the US, that doesn't have any network tech support for
its residential DSL customers, has one.  Perhaps the last technical
person forgot to shut it off when they laid her or him off.
The largest cable TV operator in the US, who happens also to be
#2 on the Spamhaus.org list, has another.  And the #1 spam supporter
worldwide (see spamhaus top 10) has two more.


Cameron




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problem with upgrade from Woody to Sarge

2005-07-18 Thread Pierre Burri
hello,
i got a problem during the upgrade from Woody to Sarge with apache (Version 1) 
and the module libapache-mod-php4. 
I get the error:

Setting up libapache-mod-php4 (4.3.10-15) ...
Error: mod_webapp.so does not have a corresponding .info file.

what can i do to fix this?

thanks a lots for some help.
Pierre 

log file:
Errors were encountered while processing:
 fetchmail
 libapache-mod-php4
 php4
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
Ack!  Something bad happened while installing packages.  Trying to recover:
Setting up fetchmail (6.2.5-12) ...
Starting mail retrieval agent: fetchmail (failed).
dpkg: error processing fetchmail (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Setting up libapache-mod-php4 (4.3.10-15) ...
Error: mod_webapp.so does not have a corresponding .info file.
The above errors might cause apache to not work properly or start
Please refer to the documentation on how to fix it or report it to
Debian Apache Mailing List debian-apache@lists.debian.org if in doubt
on how to proceed
dpkg: error processing libapache-mod-php4 (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 128
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of php4:
 php4 depends on libapache-mod-php4 (= 4:4.3.10-15) | libapache2-mod-php4 (= 
4:4.3.10-15); however:
  Package libapache-mod-php4 is not configured yet.
  Package libapache2-mod-php4 is not installed.
dpkg: error processing php4 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 fetchmail
 libapache-mod-php4
 php4


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Can't upgrade from woody to sarge (sources.list problem?)

2005-06-30 Thread Adam Fabian
I have Debian installed on my xbox.  It's Xebian 1.01, or something like
that.  As nearly as I can tell, it's exactly the same as woody except
that the kernel is a 2.4 kernel with xbox patches, and a backported
version of XFree86 4.3.0, and some customized configuration files.

xbox:/# cat /etc/debian_version 
3.0

xbox:/# gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.95.4/specs
gcc version 2.95.4 20011002 (Debian prerelease)

Anyway, my point being that I'm pretty sure it's almost pure woody and
looks a lot more like a customized Debian than a derived distribution.

So, my sources list looks like this:

deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sarge/non-US main contrib
non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sarge//non-US main
contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main
deb-src http://perso.wanadoo.fr/debian/ unstable main

Then I type:

xbox:/# apt-get update
[snip]
Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sarge/main Release 
[snip]
xbox:/# echo $?
0
(In other words, everything appears successful.)

xbox:/# apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages have been kept back
  lame liblame0 libpostproc0 mplayer-586 
2 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4  not upgraded.
Need to get 1145kB of archives. After unpacking 4096B will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 

I expected that a lot more packages would need upgrading (like, say,
gcc).

How can I upgrade?  I don't want to mess with the kernel package, so I
guess I should pin it or something.  There might be some configuration
file holding everything in place.

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Re: Can't upgrade from woody to sarge (sources.list problem?)

2005-06-30 Thread Thomas Weinbrenner
Adam Fabian wrote:
 I have Debian installed on my xbox.  It's Xebian 1.01, or something like
 that.  As nearly as I can tell, it's exactly the same as woody except
 that the kernel is a 2.4 kernel with xbox patches, and a backported
 version of XFree86 4.3.0, and some customized configuration files.

 Anyway, my point being that I'm pretty sure it's almost pure woody and
 looks a lot more like a customized Debian than a derived distribution.

 So, my sources list looks like this:

 deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib
 
Lines with deb-src point to the source code for the packages, not to the
packages. You need them only if you want to build your own packages.
If you just want to install the packages from the debian mirror you have
to use deb instead of deb-src.

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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-12 Thread Bob Proulx
Florian Ernst wrote:
 MicheleM wrote:
  all worked fine untill I rebooted the machine and...ooops! The boot
  loader LILO failed with the LI code error.
  [...]
  But what did it happen? I think there is a bug somewhere.
 
 lilo should have detected it needed to be re-run and should have
 prompted you about this, unless it was configured otherwise.
 
 What does
 | # grep -A5 'lilo/runme' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
 say?

I upgraded a machine running lilo and debconf mailed me the following
information:

  Subject: Debconf: Configuring lilo -- Deprecated parameters in LILO 
configuration

  Deprecated files have been found on your system. You must update the
  'install=' parameter in your LILO configuration file (/etc/lilo.conf) in
  order to properly upgrade the package.

  The new 'install=' options are:

   new: install=bmp
   old: install=/boot/boot-bmp.b

   new: install=text
   old: install=/boot/boot-text.b

   new: install=menu
   old: install=/boot/boot-menu.b or boot.b

  --
  Debconf, running at discord.proulx.com
  [ Debconf was not configured to display this note, so it mailed it to you. ]

Reading that message I took care of the problem (by installing grub)
before rebooting the system.  But I can't help but wonder if something
similar occurred with the original poster?  It was mailed to me
because I had set my debconf to 'critical' only and so it was
prevented from showing me a dialog box.  Although for something like
this it would justify a critical rating.

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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-12 Thread Clinton V. Weiss
This topic may be a few days old, but this is apparently exactly what 
happened to a server I admin remotely.  When I upgraded to the new 
stable packages, I saw nothing that affected the kernel, therefore 
rerunning LILO didn't occur to me as something that needed to be done.


Hopefully someone reported a bug report on this against LILO since 
Monday. Since no changes to the kernel should have affected LILO's boot 
configuration, it should have had no trouble booting up.


Why do I have LILO running in the first place?  When I installed from 
the Woody CD a year ago, that's all that was offered to me.  I wasn't 
aware, at the time, of the problems known to occur with LILO and so 
didn't install grub.  Now that I live a couple hundred miles from this 
machine, but  continue to admin it, I wouldn't dare attempt to install a 
new boot loader unless I was physically present.


Clinton


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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-12 Thread Clinton V. Weiss

This topic may be a few days old, but this is apparently exactly what
happened to a server I admin remotely.  When I upgraded to the new
stable packages, I saw nothing that affected the kernel, therefore
rerunning LILO didn't occur to me as something that needed to be done.

Hopefully someone reported a bug report on this against LILO since
Monday. Since no changes to the kernel should have affected LILO's boot
configuration, it should have had no trouble booting up.

Why do I have LILO running in the first place?  When I installed from
the Woody CD a year ago, that's all that was offered to me.  I wasn't
aware, at the time, of the problems known to occur with LILO and so
didn't install grub.  Now that I live a couple hundred miles from this
machine, but  continue to admin it, I wouldn't dare attempt to install a
new boot loader unless I was physically present.

Clinton


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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-12 Thread Clinton V. Weiss

This topic may be a few days old, but this is apparently exactly what
happened to a server I admin remotely.  When I upgraded to the new
stable packages, I saw nothing that affected the kernel, therefore
rerunning LILO didn't occur to me as something that needed to be done.

Hopefully someone reported a bug report on this against LILO since
Monday. Since no changes to the kernel should have affected LILO's boot
configuration, it should have had no trouble booting up.

Why do I have LILO running in the first place?  When I installed from
the Woody CD a year ago, that's all that was offered to me.  I wasn't
aware, at the time, of the problems known to occur with LILO and so
didn't install grub.  Now that I live a couple hundred miles from this
machine, but  continue to admin it, I wouldn't dare attempt to install a
new boot loader unless I was physically present.

Clinton


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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-10 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello again,

On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 02:54:32PM -0700, MicheleM wrote:
 this is the output:
 
 anjuna:~# grep -A5 'lilo/runme' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
 Name: lilo/runme
 Template: lilo/runme
 Owners: lilo
 
 [...]
 no more.

Hm, strange, to me it looks like this question was never asked. I
guess it's best to ask the lilo maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
about this, or you could send a bugreport against upgrade-reports...

I personally don't use lilo myself, so I wouldn't dare venture any
deeper into this problem.

Cheers,
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Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-09 Thread MicheleM
Hi there,
yesterday I tried to upgrade my Woody production server to Sarge after
reading and following step by step the relase notes under:
http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html

all worked fine untill I rebooted the machine and...ooops! The boot
loader LILO failed with the LI code error.
No way to boot the machine. I solved the problem with a knoppix live
cd, I mounted the root partition, chrooted into it, mounted /boot
partition and run lilo.
After reboot the server was uprunning.

But what did it happen? I think there is a bug somewhere.

I post my ls -l /boot:

total 4513
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 512 2005-01-25 00:50 boot.0800
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  11 2005-01-25 00:48 boot.b - boot-menu.b
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  308326 2005-06-09 01:00 coffee.bmp
-rw-r--r--  1 root root3342 2005-01-25 00:45 config-2.4.28-bf2.4
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   26684 2005-02-08 20:06 config-2.4.29
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root  15 2005-06-09 01:00 debian.bmp -
/boot/sarge.bmp
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  153720 2005-06-09 01:00 debianlilo.bmp
-rw---  1 root root   46080 2005-06-09 14:19 map
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   23662 2005-06-09 01:00 sarge.bmp
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   24116 2005-06-09 01:00 sid.bmp
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  568549 2005-01-25 00:45
System.map-2.4.28-bf2.4
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  668419 2005-02-08 20:11 System.map-2.4.29
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1298076 2005-01-25 00:45 vmlinuz-2.4.28-bf2.4
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1477532 2005-02-08 20:11 vmlinuz-2.4.29


and the /etc/lilo.conf


# /etc/lilo.conf - See: `lilo(8)' and `lilo.conf(5)',
# ---   `install-mbr(8)', `/usr/share/doc/lilo/',
#   and `/usr/share/doc/mbr/'.

# +---+
# |!! Reminder !! |
# |   |
# | Don't forget to run `lilo' after you make changes to this |
# | conffile, `/boot/bootmess.txt', or install a new kernel.  The |
# | computer will most likely fail to boot if a kernel-image  |
# | post-install script or you don't remember to run `lilo'.  |
# |   |
# +---+

# Support LBA for large hard disks.
#
lba32

# Overrides the default mapping between harddisk names and the BIOS'
# harddisk order. Use with caution.
#disk=/dev/hde
#bios=0x81

#disk=/dev/sda
#bios=0x80

# Specifies the boot device.  This is where Lilo installs its boot
# block.  It can be either a partition, or the raw device, in which
# case it installs in the MBR, and will overwrite the current MBR.
#
boot=/dev/sda

# Specifies the device that should be mounted as root. (`/')
#
root=/dev/sda4

# Enable map compaction:
# Tries to merge read requests for adjacent sectors into a single
# read request. This drastically reduces load time and keeps the
# map smaller.  Using `compact' is especially recommended when
# booting from a floppy disk.  It is disabled here by default
# because it doesn't always work.
#
# compact

# Installs the specified file as the new boot sector
# You have the choice between: bmp, compat, menu and text
# Look in /boot/ and in lilo.conf(5) manpage for details
#
install=/boot/boot-menu.b

# Specifies the location of the map file
#
map=/boot/map

# You can set a password here, and uncomment the `restricted' lines
# in the image definitions below to make it so that a password must
# be typed to boot anything but a default configuration.  If a
# command line is given, other than one specified by an `append'
# statement in `lilo.conf', the password will be required, but a
# standard default boot will not require one.
#
# This will, for instance, prevent anyone with access to the
# console from booting with something like `Linux init=/bin/sh',
# and thus becoming `root' without proper authorization.
#
# Note that if you really need this type of security, you will
# likely also want to use `install-mbr' to reconfigure the MBR
# program, as well as set up your BIOS to disallow booting from
# removable disk or CD-ROM, then put a password on getting into the
# BIOS configuration as well.  Please RTFM `install-mbr(8)'.
#
# password=tatercounter2000

# Specifies the number of deciseconds (0.1 seconds) LILO should
# wait before booting the first image.
#
delay=20

# You can put a customized boot message up if you like.  If you use
# `prompt', and this computer may need to reboot unattended, you
# must specify a `timeout', or it will sit there forever waiting
# for a keypress.  `single-key' goes with the `alias' lines in the
# `image' configurations below.  eg: You can press `1' to boot
# `Linux', `2' to boot `LinuxOLD', if you uncomment the `alias'.
#
# message=/boot/bootmess.txt
prompt
timeout=150
#   prompt
#   single-key
#   delay=100
#   timeout=100

# Specifies the VGA

Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-09 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello *,

On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:23:39AM -0700, MicheleM wrote:
 yesterday I tried to upgrade my Woody production server to Sarge after
 reading and following step by step the relase notes under:
 http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html
 
 all worked fine untill I rebooted the machine and...ooops! The boot
 loader LILO failed with the LI code error.
 No way to boot the machine. I solved the problem with a knoppix live
 cd, I mounted the root partition, chrooted into it, mounted /boot
 partition and run lilo.
 After reboot the server was uprunning.
 
 But what did it happen? I think there is a bug somewhere.
 [...]
 I made a typescript's upgrade too but I don't think it's notable, of
 course you'll can ask me it.

lilo should have detected it needed to be re-run and should have
prompted you about this, unless it was configured otherwise.

What does
| # grep -A5 'lilo/runme' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
say?


Cheers,
Flo


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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-09 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 08:08:08PM +0200, Florian Ernst wrote:
 Hello *,
 
  
  all worked fine untill I rebooted the machine and...ooops! The boot
  loader LILO failed with the LI code error.
  No way to boot the machine. I solved the problem with a knoppix live
  cd, I mounted the root partition, chrooted into it, mounted /boot
  partition and run lilo.
  After reboot the server was uprunning.
  
  But what did it happen? I think there is a bug somewhere.
  [...]
  I made a typescript's upgrade too but I don't think it's notable, of
  course you'll can ask me it.
 
 lilo should have detected it needed to be re-run and should have
 prompted you about this, unless it was configured otherwise.
 
 What does
 | # grep -A5 'lilo/runme' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
 say?
 
Why do people insist on using LILO?  Just install grub, set it up once
with symlinks and *never* mess with it again.  In case anyone cares,
here is my configuration:

default 0
timeout 5
color cyan/blue white/blue
title   Debian GNU/Linux
root(hd0,1)
kernel  /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 ro vga=normal ide0=ata66 ide1=ata66
boot

title   Debian GNU/Linux (recovery mode)
root(hd0,1)
kernel  /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 ro single vga=normal ide0=ata66 
ide1=ata66
boot
title   Debian GNU/Linux, OLD
root(hd0,1)
kernel  /vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda3 ro vga=normal ide0=ata66 ide1=ata66
boot

title   Debian GNU/Linux, OLD (recovery mode)
root(hd0,1)
kernel  /vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda3 ro single vga=normal ide0=ata66 
ide1=ata66
boot

I installed it *one* time to the MBR.  I have only since had to mess
with it to replace the failed harddrive in the machine.  If you have
/boot on a separate partition, as I do, you will want to add
'do_symlinks = No' to /etc/kernel-img.conf.  Trust me on this.  It is
really nice to have a boot loader that can actually read your filesystem.

-Roberto

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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-09 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello *,

On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 04:46:32PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
 Why do people insist on using LILO?  Just install grub, [...]

Advocacy is one thing, trying to find out why a bug has occurred
another. Let's try not to mix things up.

Cheers,
Flo


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Re: Release upgrade from Woody to Sarge failed reboot lilo problem

2005-06-09 Thread MicheleM
Hi Flo,
this is the output:

anjuna:~# grep -A5 'lilo/runme' /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
Name: lilo/runme
Template: lilo/runme
Owners: lilo

Name: lilo/upgrade
Template: lilo/upgrade
Owners: lilo

I grep the upgrade's typescript searching for the lilo prompt but this
is what I found:

anjuna:~# cat /backup/typescript |grep lilo
  libxaw7 libxerces2-java libxml1 libxml2 lilo links login logrotate
lpr
  libxaw7 libxerces2-java libxml1 libxml2 lilo links login logrotate
lpr
  libxaw7 libxerces2-java libxml1 libxml2 lilo links login logrotate
lpr
  libxaw7 libxerces2-java libxml1 libxml2 lilo links login logrotate
lpr
Get:493 http://debian.fastweb.it sarge/main lilo 1:22.6.1-6.2 [343kB]
Get:494 http://debian.fastweb.it sarge/main mbr 1.1.5-2 [20.4kB]
Preparing to replace lilo 1:22.2-3 (using
.../lilo_1%3a22.6.1-6.2_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement lilo ...
Setting up lilo (22.6.1-6.2) ...

no more.

thanks Flo

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Re: On your upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-12-13 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:27:46 -0600 (CST), Gayle Lee Fairless
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]

  
 I was wondering if the apt-get dist-upgrade would also upgrade the
 kernel, too.  Sourceforge makes it sound easy.
 

Only if there are updated Debian revision of your kernel version.


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Re: On your upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-12-13 Thread Paul E Condon
On Sun, Dec 12, 2004 at 11:27:46PM -0600, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
   I was wondering if the apt-get dist-upgrade would also upgrade the 
 kernel, too.  Sourceforge makes it sound easy.
 

In Debian, kernel upgrades are special. They only happen if you
specifically request them. This is intentional. It is the considered
opinion of the Debian leadership that it should not be automatic. But
it is really easy.  Once you have done a dist-upgrade to get to Sarge,
you can, in a speparate step, download and install a new kernel. But,
you need to read the directions. A new kernel does require restarting
your computer. It does require making sure that lilo or grub is
properly changed to startup using the new kernel. And it is important
to have them set up to allow you to boot back into your old kernel.
All this is covered in the instructions. Read them first. Then it is
easy. And _don't_ read instructions for another distribution and think
they apply to Debian.

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Re: On your upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-12-13 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:27:46 -0600 (CST), Gayle Lee Fairless
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]

 
 I was wondering if the apt-get dist-upgrade would also upgrade 
the
 kernel, too.  Sourceforge makes it sound easy.


Only if there are updated Debian revision of your kernel version.


Andrea

Does that mean that a change from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel has
to be a separate operation?  (In which case, I guess I had better really
study that Sourceforge document very seriously!)

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Re: On your upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-12-13 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 11:16:28 -0600 (CST), Gayle Lee Fairless
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 23:27:46 -0600 (CST), Gayle Lee Fairless
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [...]
 
  
  I was wondering if the apt-get dist-upgrade would also upgrade
 the
  kernel, too.  Sourceforge makes it sound easy.
 
 
 Only if there are updated Debian revision of your kernel version.
 
 Andrea
 
 Does that mean that a change from a 2.4 kernel to a 2.6 kernel has
 to be a separate operation?  (In which case, I guess I had better really
 study that Sourceforge document very seriously!)
 

It's easy but not automatic, and you can keep them both installed, or
better, with Debian you can have how many kernels installed as you
want...


Andrea


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Re: On your upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-12-12 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
On Sun, 12 Dec 2004, Leonard Chatagnier wrote:

 Not sure what you mean.  I put testing in the sources.list which I thought
 would get the Sarge.  Running upgrade several times never got away from
 2.4.18-bf2.4 Woody.  Now trying using pkg-upgrade as apt conditioner but my
 /var directory isn't large enough to contain the download.  Attempting to
 use a symlnk to a partition with enough free space but its not working
 either.
 
 Leonard Chatagnier
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 Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 5:57 PM
 Subject: On your upgrade from woody to sarge
 
 
  Did you change your kernel version?
 
  I'm asking because I'll probably upgrade from woody to sarge when
  sarge finally goes stable.  I guess that upgrading the kernel to a 2.6
  might also be an improvement.  Right now I tend to use KDE with gdm.  I
  hope that the resolution can be more easily managed, too.  And I hope to
  use my usb HP psc1210 better as well as the HP 697C on my parallel port.
 
 
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  Linux Gcomm 2.4.18-bf2.4 #1 Son Apr 14 09:53:28 CEST 2002 i686 unknown
  PS.  I am subscribed to the digest but not the list.
 
 
 
 




I was wondering if the apt-get dist-upgrade would also upgrade the 
kernel, too.  Sourceforge makes it sound easy.

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On your upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-12-12 Thread Gayle Lee Fairless
Did you change your kernel version?

I'm asking because I'll probably upgrade from woody to sarge when 
sarge finally goes stable.  I guess that upgrading the kernel to a 2.6 
might also be an improvement.  Right now I tend to use KDE with gdm.  I 
hope that the resolution can be more easily managed, too.  And I hope to 
use my usb HP psc1210 better as well as the HP 697C on my parallel port.


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dodgy sudo upgrade on woody ppc - echos processing

2004-11-24 Thread Clive Menzies
Hi

I don't think this is a ppc specific problem  and so I'm posting here.

In response to the sudo security alert I've upgraded 1 sid workstation
and 3 woody servers (2 i386 and 1 ppc).  All are fine except for the
woody ppc upgrade.

During aptitude upgrade dpkg couldn't write to its file because /var
was at 100% no room left.  The package installed but something was
awry.  When running sudo I get the following before commands are
executed:

Looking at PWD=/var/mail...
Looking at [EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ...
Looking at USER=clive...
Looking at MAIL=/var/mail/clive...
Looking at LANG=C...
Looking at SSH_CLIENT=192.168.1.11 37884 22...
Looking at LOGNAME=clive...
Looking at SHLVL=1...
Looking at SHELL=/bin/bash...
Looking at HOME=/home/clive...
Looking at TERM=xterm...
Looking at PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games...
Looking at SSH_TTY=/dev/pts/0...
Looking at _=/usr/bin/sudo...
Looking at OLDPWD=/home/clive...

Other than this sudo works fine AFAICT.  I tried removing sudo and
purging the configuration files (dpkg -P sudo) and then reinstalling
(having cleaned /var to make room) but the problem remains.  I tried to
find a configuration file for sudo but only came up with:
/etc/init.d/sudo
/etc/pam.d/sudo

neither of which seem a likely source of remedy.  Nothing is showing up
in BUGS and I'm puzzled as to where to go from here ;)

Thanks

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Re: dodgy sudo upgrade on woody ppc - echos processing

2004-11-24 Thread Aaron Hall
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004, Clive Menzies wrote:
I don't think this is a ppc specific problem  and so I'm posting here.
In response to the sudo security alert I've upgraded 1 sid workstation
and 3 woody servers (2 i386 and 1 ppc).  All are fine except for the
woody ppc upgrade.
During aptitude upgrade dpkg couldn't write to its file because /var
was at 100% no room left.  The package installed but something was
awry.  When running sudo I get the following before commands are
executed:
[snip debugging info  rest of message]
Same results here on woody i386. As I write this, it's been reported as
bugs #282777, #282778, and #282786.
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Want to upgrade from Woody to Sarge. [Source.list]

2004-11-20 Thread mj-barton

I want to upgrade from woody to sarge. Can someone post the appropriate source.list. Thank you.

Then aren't you supposed to run apt-get dist-upgrade or something? Moving to sarge is to new to me. I feel lost. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks


Re: Want to upgrade from Woody to Sarge. [Source.list]

2004-11-20 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
Hi

On Sat, Nov 20, 2004 at 08:56:13AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I want to upgrade from woody to sarge.  Can someone post the appropriate 
 source.list. Thank you.
You can change all entries from woody to sarge in your /etc/apt/sources.list
 
 Then aren't you supposed to run apt-get dist-upgrade or something?  Moving to 
 sarge is to new to me.  I feel lost.  Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks
Then, when changing the sources.list, run apt-get update and then finally:
apt-get dist-upgrade.

Maybe the APT-Howto on www.debian.org/doc could also be interessting
for you:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html

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please help: upgrade from woody to sarge; postfix broken

2004-11-17 Thread Jacco Hoeve
I hope someone can help me.. Im desperate..

Recently I changed my /etc/apt/sources.list to upgrade from woody to sarge.
All in all it went reasonably well. This is my current sources.list:

SOURCES.LIST
-
deb ftp://ftp.debian.nl/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.nl/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sarge/non-US main contrib
non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sarge/non-US main contrib
non-free

#php5 etc..
deb http://packages.dotdeb.org ./
-

Before the upgrade I used the backports.org version of postfix. It was the
same version as in sarge. I didn't change any config files and this is what
postfix puts in mail.log after I start it:

ERROR
-
Nov 17 22:36:55 server01 postfix/master[15177]: fatal: getaddrinfo: Servname
not supported for ai_socktype
-

Probably some problem with libresolv? Anyway.. I simply upgraded and
libresolv is now nicely at version 2.3.2 (/lib/libresolv*). Also master
nicely is linked to it:

-
server01:/usr/lib/postfix# ldd /usr/lib/postfix/master
libpostfix-global.so.1 = /usr/lib/libpostfix-global.so.1
(0x4002)
libpostfix-util.so.1 = /usr/lib/libpostfix-util.so.1 (0x40043000)
libdb-4.2.so = /usr/lib/libdb-4.2.so (0x40068000)
libnsl.so.1 = /lib/tls/libnsl.so.1 (0x4013e000)
libresolv.so.2 = /lib/tls/libresolv.so.2 (0x40153000)
libgdbm_compat.so.3 = /usr/lib/libgdbm_compat.so.3 (0x40165000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x40168000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/tls/libdl.so.2 (0x402a3000)
libgdbm.so.3 = /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.3 (0x402a7000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
-

This is my postconf -n output:

-
server01:/usr/lib/postfix# postconf -n
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-aliases.cf
append_dot_mydomain = yes
biff = no
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
command_directory = /usr/sbin
config_directory = /etc/postfix
content_filter = smtp:127.0.0.1:10024
daemon_directory = /usr/lib/postfix
default_destination_recipient_limit = 100
delay_warning_time = 4
disable_vrfy_command = yes
header_checks = pcre:/etc/postfix/headercheck
home_mailbox = Maildir/
in_flow_delay = 5s
local_recipient_maps = $alias_maps $virtual_mailbox_maps unix:passwd.byname
mailbox_command = procmail -a $EXTENSION
mailbox_size_limit = 0
message_size_limit = 2048
mydestination = $myhostname, $transport_maps, localhost.infogateway.org,
localhost
mydomain = infogateway.org
myhostname = server01.infogateway.org
mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, 192.168.0.0/16,   212.45.53.2/32,
212.142.6.228/32,   213.233.209.62/32,  217.128.103.29/32,
213.92.131.53/32,62.73.241.146/32,64.23.55.49/32
myorigin = $mydomain
notify_classes = resource,software,2bounce
recipient_delimiter = +
relocated_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-relocated.cf
setgid_group = postdrop
smtp_use_tls = yes
smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP (Debian/GNU). We intend to block/report all
spam!
smtpd_client_restrictions =
smtpd_data_restrictions =
smtpd_helo_required = yes
smtpd_helo_restrictions =
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated,
permit_mynetworks,   reject_non_fqdn_sender,   reject_non_fqdn_recipient,
reject_unknown_sender_domain,   reject_unknown_recipient_domain,
reject_unauth_pipelining,   reject_unauth_destination,
check_recipient_access pcre:/etc/postfix/recipient_checks.pcre,
check_sender_access pcre:/etc/postfix/sender_checks.pcre,
check_client_access pcre:/etc/postfix/client_checks.pcre,
reject_rbl_client relays.ordb.org,   reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org,
reject_rbl_client sbl.spamhaus.org,   reject_rbl_client xbl.spamhaus.org,
reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net,   reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org,
reject_rbl_client dnsbl.njabl.org,   permit
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtpd_sender_restrictions =
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/cacert-comodo.pem
smtpd_tls_CApath = /etc/postfix/certs/
smtpd_tls_ask_ccert = no
smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/smtp_infogateway_org.crt
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/smtp_infogateway_org.key
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 0
smtpd_tls_received_header = yes
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = sdbm:/etc/postfix/smtpd_scache
smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s
smtpd_use_tls = yes
strict_rfc821_envelopes = yes
tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom
transport_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-transport.cf
unknown_address_reject_code = 554
unknown_client_reject_code = 550
unknown_hostname_reject_code = 554
virtual_gid_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-virtual-gid.cf
virtual_mailbox_base = /rdfs/postfix-vmail
virtual_mailbox_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-virtual-maps.cf
virtual_uid_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-virtual-uid.cf
-

And again: I hope someone can help me.. Im desperate..

Jacco


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please help: upgrade from woody to sarge; postfix broken

2004-11-17 Thread Jacco Hoeve
I hope someone can help me.. Im desperate..

Recently I changed my /etc/apt/sources.list to upgrade from woody to sarge.
All in all it went reasonably well. This is my current sources.list:

SOURCES.LIST
-
deb ftp://ftp.debian.nl/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.nl/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib
deb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sarge/non-US main contrib
non-free
deb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US sarge/non-US main contrib
non-free

#php5 etc..
deb http://packages.dotdeb.org ./
-

Before the upgrade I used the backports.org version of postfix. It was the
same version as in sarge. I didn't change any config files and this is what
postfix puts in mail.log after I start it:

ERROR
-
Nov 17 22:36:55 server01 postfix/master[15177]: fatal: getaddrinfo: Servname
not supported for ai_socktype
-

Probably some problem with libresolv? Anyway.. I simply upgraded and
libresolv is now nicely at version 2.3.2 (/lib/libresolv*). Also master
nicely is linked to it:

-
server01:/usr/lib/postfix# ldd /usr/lib/postfix/master
libpostfix-global.so.1 = /usr/lib/libpostfix-global.so.1
(0x4002)
libpostfix-util.so.1 = /usr/lib/libpostfix-util.so.1 (0x40043000)
libdb-4.2.so = /usr/lib/libdb-4.2.so (0x40068000)
libnsl.so.1 = /lib/tls/libnsl.so.1 (0x4013e000)
libresolv.so.2 = /lib/tls/libresolv.so.2 (0x40153000)
libgdbm_compat.so.3 = /usr/lib/libgdbm_compat.so.3 (0x40165000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/tls/libc.so.6 (0x40168000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/tls/libdl.so.2 (0x402a3000)
libgdbm.so.3 = /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.3 (0x402a7000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
-

This is my postconf -n output:

-
server01:/usr/lib/postfix# postconf -n
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-aliases.cf
append_dot_mydomain = yes
biff = no
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
command_directory = /usr/sbin
config_directory = /etc/postfix
content_filter = smtp:127.0.0.1:10024
daemon_directory = /usr/lib/postfix
default_destination_recipient_limit = 100
delay_warning_time = 4
disable_vrfy_command = yes
header_checks = pcre:/etc/postfix/headercheck
home_mailbox = Maildir/
in_flow_delay = 5s
local_recipient_maps = $alias_maps $virtual_mailbox_maps unix:passwd.byname
mailbox_command = procmail -a $EXTENSION
mailbox_size_limit = 0
message_size_limit = 2048
mydestination = $myhostname, $transport_maps, localhost.infogateway.org,
localhost
mydomain = infogateway.org
myhostname = server01.infogateway.org
mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, 192.168.0.0/16,   212.45.53.2/32,
212.142.6.228/32,   213.233.209.62/32,  217.128.103.29/32,
213.92.131.53/32,62.73.241.146/32,64.23.55.49/32
myorigin = $mydomain
notify_classes = resource,software,2bounce
recipient_delimiter = +
relocated_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-relocated.cf
setgid_group = postdrop
smtp_use_tls = yes
smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP (Debian/GNU). We intend to block/report all
spam!
smtpd_client_restrictions =
smtpd_data_restrictions =
smtpd_helo_required = yes
smtpd_helo_restrictions =
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated,
permit_mynetworks,   reject_non_fqdn_sender,   reject_non_fqdn_recipient,
reject_unknown_sender_domain,   reject_unknown_recipient_domain,
reject_unauth_pipelining,   reject_unauth_destination,
check_recipient_access pcre:/etc/postfix/recipient_checks.pcre,
check_sender_access pcre:/etc/postfix/sender_checks.pcre,
check_client_access pcre:/etc/postfix/client_checks.pcre,
reject_rbl_client relays.ordb.org,   reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org,
reject_rbl_client sbl.spamhaus.org,   reject_rbl_client xbl.spamhaus.org,
reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net,   reject_rbl_client cbl.abuseat.org,
reject_rbl_client dnsbl.njabl.org,   permit
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtpd_sender_restrictions =
smtpd_tls_CAfile = /etc/postfix/cacert-comodo.pem
smtpd_tls_CApath = /etc/postfix/certs/
smtpd_tls_ask_ccert = no
smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes
smtpd_tls_cert_file = /etc/postfix/smtp_infogateway_org.crt
smtpd_tls_key_file = /etc/postfix/smtp_infogateway_org.key
smtpd_tls_loglevel = 0
smtpd_tls_received_header = yes
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = sdbm:/etc/postfix/smtpd_scache
smtpd_tls_session_cache_timeout = 3600s
smtpd_use_tls = yes
strict_rfc821_envelopes = yes
tls_random_source = dev:/dev/urandom
transport_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-transport.cf
unknown_address_reject_code = 554
unknown_client_reject_code = 550
unknown_hostname_reject_code = 554
virtual_gid_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-virtual-gid.cf
virtual_mailbox_base = /rdfs/postfix-vmail
virtual_mailbox_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-virtual-maps.cf
virtual_uid_maps = pgsql:/etc/postfix/pgsql-virtual-uid.cf
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And again: I hope someone can help me.. Im desperate..

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Re: please help: upgrade from woody to sarge; postfix broken

2004-11-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Jacco Hoeve wrote:
 ERROR
 -
 Nov 17 22:36:55 server01 postfix/master[15177]: fatal: getaddrinfo: Servname
 not supported for ai_socktype

Translation:
  You're missing something in /etc/services.

In other words, you're telling postfix to connect to something like
192.0.2.1:blah, and blah is not in /etc/services.  It could be in a
transport map, or anywhere.

Are you using lmtp as a service name (i.e. like in 192.0.2.1:lmtp)
somewhere, per chance?  lmtp has no defined port, so it was dully removed
from /etc/services.

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RE: please help: upgrade from woody to sarge; postfix broken

2004-11-17 Thread Jacco Hoeve


 On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Jacco Hoeve wrote:
  ERROR
  -
  Nov 17 22:36:55 server01 postfix/master[15177]: fatal: getaddrinfo:
 Servname
  not supported for ai_socktype
 
 Translation:
   You're missing something in /etc/services.
 
 In other words, you're telling postfix to connect to something like
 192.0.2.1:blah, and blah is not in /etc/services.  It could be in a
 transport map, or anywhere.
 
 Are you using lmtp as a service name (i.e. like in 192.0.2.1:lmtp)
 somewhere, per chance?  lmtp has no defined port, so it was dully removed
 from /etc/services.
 


Thanks!! That worked.. I was missing 2 services (smtp-backdoor and vexira).


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Re: please help: upgrade from woody to sarge; postfix broken

2004-11-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Jacco Hoeve wrote:
  ERROR
  -
  Nov 17 22:36:55 server01 postfix/master[15177]: fatal: getaddrinfo: Servname
  not supported for ai_socktype
 
 Translation:
   You're missing something in /etc/services.

Reported as #281815.  This is one of those error messages that are way, way
too obscure.

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upgrade von woody zu sarge und Internal error couldn t config a pre-depend

2004-10-24 Thread Ulrich Pedri
Hallo Liste, 

habe  wie mir empfohlen wurde ein upgrade von woody 3.0 auf sarge auf 
meinem Laptop gestartet. UNd zwar nach dem einlesen von 14 CD images (hat 
auch nach plan geklappt; sources.list kontrolliert, alles ok )
dann:

apt-get update  apt-get dist-upgrade  lilo -v

ES kommt die Meldung über die zu installierenden Pakete, jene zu entferneden 
usw.
Dann einlegen der 1. CD und folgende Meldung:

E: INternal error, could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libac1l. 
und ABBRUCH

ok dann hab ich mit:

apt-get install libacl1 das Paket einzeln installiert und es wurden einige 
zusätzliche pakete u.a. libc6 neu installiert bzw. konfiguriert. (jedenfalls 
schien mir so)

dann wieder

apt-get dist-upgrade  lilo -v.

folgende Meldung:

Internal error couldn t config a pre-depend. ABBRUCH

NIx weiteres , kein Hinweis welche pre-depend !

Hat jemand hier im Forum ne Ahnung davon ?



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Re: upgrade von woody zu sarge und Internal error couldn t config a pre-depend

2004-10-24 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 24.Oct 2004 - 19:06:23, Ulrich Pedri wrote:
 Hallo Liste, 
 
 habe  wie mir empfohlen wurde ein upgrade von woody 3.0 auf sarge auf 
 meinem Laptop gestartet. UNd zwar nach dem einlesen von 14 CD images (hat 
 auch nach plan geklappt; sources.list kontrolliert, alles ok )
 dann:
 
 apt-get update  apt-get dist-upgrade  lilo -v

Auf etlichen Seiten bzgl. Debian DistributionsUpgrade ist angemerkt
man solle zuerst! die Pakettools (also dpkg und apt) updaten und erst
danach das dist-upgrade durchfuehren. Bei meinem Minimalsystem klappts
auch ohne, aber grade wenn man ein voll installiertes System hat,
duerfte diese Vorgehensweise besser sein. Ich kann dir allerdings
nicht sagen ob das in deinem speziellen Fall das Problem loest... Wenn
nicht muesstest du zumindestens rauskriegen bei welchem Paket er
abbricht.

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Re: Segfault after dist-upgrade on woody

2004-09-27 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 11:58:12AM +0200, Stefan Goessling-Reisemann wrote:
 Hello List!
 
 I have not gotten any response to my problem (see below), so I take the
 liberty to ask my questions once more. I hope you do not feel offended.
 
 Best regards, STefan
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 11:09:04 +0200
 From: Stefan Gößling-Reisemann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Dear List,
 
 at the beginning of September I did an apt-get update and apt-get
 upgrade on a Woody installation. The upgraded packages were (IIRC)
 libpng2/3 and rsync. Exactly on that day tripwire stopped working, i.e. it
 delivers a segmentation fault. The rest of the system seemed to work fine
 at first, until I discovered recently that also dpkg creates a segfault.
 
 The system was setup by two CS students at our university, so I don't know
 all the details of the installation. I know that they have compiled their
 own kernel (2.4.19). They claim to have added two extra drivers (as
 modules) (via-rhine.c:v1.10-LK1.1.14 and sundance.c:v1.01b 17-Jan-2002).
 But aren't these part of the 2.4.19 source??

Hi,
are you aware that many of these packages are awailable IN debian or at
most available as backports. The whole point of using debian is the
quality assurance. And most packages(samba,kernel and maybe the rhine
module) have adequet default configurations. This would make upgrades
easiser and assure that you can track further problems. 
Also, check the debian-user archives and the bug track system
(bugs.debian.org/PKGNAME) for hints. Also, give a trace of the command
like with 'script' or 'CMD  logfile'.
-Kev

 
 The tripwire package is also compiled from sources (version 2.3.1.2), as
 is the samba suite (version 2.2.9). All the rest is standard Woody, as far
 as I know.
 
 I have done an strace of a call to tripwire and dpkg, they end with the
 following lines:
 
 strace of tripwire
 ==
 
 read(3, # /etc/nsswitch.conf\n#\n# Example..., 4096) = 465
 read(3, , 4096)   = 0
 close(3)= 0
 munmap(0x40076000, 4096)= 0
 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
 write(2, Software interrupt forced exit: ..., 51) = 51
 munmap(0x40077000, 4096)= 0
 _exit(8)= ?
 
 
 strace of dpkg
 ==
 
 mremap(0x4018f000, 1007616, 1011712, MREMAP_MAYMOVE) = 0x4018f000
 mremap(0x4018f000, 1011712, 1015808, MREMAP_MAYMOVE) = 0x4018f000
 mremap(0x4018f000, 1015808, 1019904, MREMAP_MAYMOVE) = 0x4018f000
 mremap(0x4018f000, 1019904, 1024000, MREMAP_MAYMOVE) = 0x402b2000
 --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
 +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++
 
 
 I have run memcheck for around 3 hours (6 passes) with no errors. I have
 also done an fsck on all partitions (except swap).
 
 Any ideas where to look? How would I further analyse the problem?
 
 Best regards and thanks to everyone willing to help,
 Stefan (debian @ goessling . de)
 
 
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Segfault aufter dist-upgrade on woody

2004-09-22 Thread Stefan Gößling-Reisemann
Dear List,

at the beginning of September I did an apt-get update and apt-get
upgrade on a Woody installation. The upgraded packages were (IIRC)
libpng2/3 and rsync. Exactly on that day tripwire stopped working, i.e. it
delivers a segmentation fault. The rest of the system seemed to work fine
at first, until I discovered recently that also dpkg creates a segfault.

The system was setup by two CS students at our university, so I don't know
all the details of the installation. I know that they have compiled their
own kernel (2.4.19). They claim to have added two extra drivers (as
modules) (via-rhine.c:v1.10-LK1.1.14 and sundance.c:v1.01b 17-Jan-2002).
But aren't these part of the 2.4.19 source??

The tripwire package is also compiled from sources (version 2.3.1.2), as
is the samba suite (version 2.2.9). All the rest is standard Woody, as far
as I know.

I have done an strace of a call to tripwire and dpkg, they end with the
following lines:

strace of tripwire
==

read(3, # /etc/nsswitch.conf\n#\n# Example..., 4096) = 465
read(3, , 4096)   = 0
close(3)= 0
munmap(0x40076000, 4096)= 0
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
write(2, Software interrupt forced exit: ..., 51) = 51
munmap(0x40077000, 4096)= 0
_exit(8)= ?


strace of dpkg
==

mremap(0x4018f000, 1007616, 1011712, MREMAP_MAYMOVE) = 0x4018f000
mremap(0x4018f000, 1011712, 1015808, MREMAP_MAYMOVE) = 0x4018f000
mremap(0x4018f000, 1015808, 1019904, MREMAP_MAYMOVE) = 0x4018f000
mremap(0x4018f000, 1019904, 1024000, MREMAP_MAYMOVE) = 0x402b2000
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++


I have run memcheck for around 3 hours (6 passes) with no errors. I have
also done an fsck on all partitions (except swap).

Any ideas where to look? How would I further analyse the problem?

Best regards and thanks to everyone willing to help,
Stefan (debian @ goessling . de)


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Upgrade slapd woody / testing

2004-05-20 Thread Ruben Massy -lists-
Bonjour

Je voudrais faire une upgrade en testing d'un serveur en prod, mais je
me pose une petite question:

Lors de la mise à jour, slapd va passer de la version 2.0.23-6.3
(stable) à la version 2.1.23-1 (testing), or entre ces deux versions (et
2.0.X / 2.1.X) il y a eds différences au niveau de la gestion des
fichiers de schema (notemment core.schema).. Il va donc falloir les
retravailler.

Comment faire ce changement le plus efficacement?
Quelqun a-t-il déjà effectué une upgrade de slapd 2.0.x à 2.1.x en
apt-get?
Y a-t-il un outil pour modifier automatiquement mes fichiers schema? (à coup de 
slapcat/LDIF ?)

Merci beaucoup!

Bonne journée
Cordialement

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Re: After upgrade from woody stable to unstable xserver starts at boot again

2004-05-01 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
Btw please start a new thread instead of making an off-topic reply to a
thread about alsa.

On Fri, 30 Apr 2004, Jens Simmoleit wrote:

 Hi,

 well heck, I can't explain why there's a X-server starting on my machine at
 boot up. I removed the init.d Entries in webmin.

 After the update the xserver came up again, and now I don't know how to stop
 this godd*mn thing. Which entry do I need to modify to prevent that the
 xserver is started.

 Take a look what webmin says (pretty funny story!):

  Action Start at boot? Description

  xdm No /etc/init.d/xdm: start or stop the X display manager
  xfree86-common No /etc/init.d/xfree86-common: set up the X server socket
 directory 10-4-2003: Now sets up .ICE-unix ICE IPC directory. -DS
  xfs No /etc/init.d/xfs: start or stop the X font server

 I think that's quite interesting as I've choosen to use kdm, which isn't
 running at all, not even mentioned :-/


It seems to me that you have xdm installed.  Do you?  If so just remove it
if you don't need it.

# dpkg --purge xdm


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ssh problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-04-19 Thread Pete RedHair
I've upgraded two Debian Woody boxes to testing
(sarge).

I use putty from a windows 2000 PC to login to these
linux boxes, but after the upgrade i can't login
anymore.

What happens is that after typing the username and
password putty generates errors.

Is there anything wrong with the new version of the
ssh server or is there anything more i need to do to
get ssh to work ?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: ssh problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-04-19 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 03:15:44AM -0700, Pete RedHair wrote:
I've upgraded two Debian Woody boxes to testing
(sarge).
Is there anything wrong with the new version of the
ssh server or is there anything more i need to do to
get ssh to work ?
Did you find your problem in the BTS? The new ssh uses PAM, and there
seems to be some problem with the config file updates from different
versions.
You should look at your /etc/ssh/sshd_config and verify the following
settings:
PasswordAuthentication no
ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes
UsePAM yes
Shade and sweet water!

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Re: ssh problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-04-19 Thread Pete RedHair
I've tried that and now i can't login at all i get
access denied.

PasswordAuthentication no (was yes)
ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes (was no)
UsePAM yes (was yes)

Could'nt find it on BTS, i'll check again.

Thanks
Pete

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 On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 03:15:44AM -0700, Pete
 RedHair wrote:
 I've upgraded two Debian Woody boxes to testing
 (sarge).
 
 Is there anything wrong with the new version of the
 ssh server or is there anything more i need to do
 to
 get ssh to work ?
 
 Did you find your problem in the BTS? The new ssh
 uses PAM, and there
 seems to be some problem with the config file
 updates from different
 versions.
 You should look at your /etc/ssh/sshd_config and
 verify the following
 settings:
 PasswordAuthentication no
 ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes
 UsePAM yes
 
 Shade and sweet water!
 
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Re: ssh problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-04-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 03:15:44AM -0700, Pete RedHair wrote:
 I've upgraded two Debian Woody boxes to testing (sarge).
 
 I use putty from a windows 2000 PC to login to these linux boxes, but
 after the upgrade i can't login anymore.
 
 What happens is that after typing the username and password putty
 generates errors.

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Re: ssh problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-04-19 Thread Pete RedHair
Sorry.

What happens is that i get the usual window when an
application crashes saying putty.exe generated errors
and is being closed by windows, you need to restart
the program (it's something like this i had to
translate since my windows is not english.

Also if i open an ssh connection to a woody server
everything works ok, only to these two servers
upgraded to sarge generate this error in putty.

Windows doesn't log anything in the event log.

The only thing i get is a 15.5Mb user.dmp.

--- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 03:15:44AM -0700, Pete
 RedHair wrote:
  I've upgraded two Debian Woody boxes to testing
 (sarge).
  
  I use putty from a windows 2000 PC to login to
 these linux boxes, but
  after the upgrade i can't login anymore.
  
  What happens is that after typing the username and
 password putty
  generates errors.
 
 What errors? It's impossible to help without seeing
 those.
 
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Re: ssh problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-04-19 Thread Pete RedHair
Thanks for your reply .

I was forgetting putty since it worked fine with
woody, however i did upgraded putty and now it works
ok, even after the changes i made in sshd_config which
didn't let me login.

Guess i missed the problem tracking when i assumed
everything was ok with my old version of putty
(0.5.1), sorry.

Thanks for your help
Pete

--- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 RedHair wrote:
  What happens is that i get the usual window when
 an application
  crashes saying putty.exe generated errors and is
 being closed by
  windows, you need to restart the program (it's
 something like this i
  had to translate since my windows is not english.
 
 Best report that to the PuTTY team, then. Whether or
 not a current
 OpenSSH server triggers it, it's still a bug in
 PuTTY and should be
 fixed there.
 
 Are you using a recent version?
 
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Re: ssh problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-04-19 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 06:11:07AM -0700, Pete RedHair wrote:
 Thanks for your reply .
 
 I was forgetting putty since it worked fine with woody, however i did
 upgraded putty and now it works ok, even after the changes i made in
 sshd_config which didn't let me login.
 
 Guess i missed the problem tracking when i assumed everything was ok
 with my old version of putty (0.5.1), sorry.

Aha, right.
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/changes.html indeed
lists some crash bugs fixed after 0.51.

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Re: ssh problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-04-19 Thread Pete RedHair
Yep, it's writen there, thanks for your help.
It is now working without any problems.

Stephan reported about some changes needed to do in
the sshd_config, should i keep them, are they to be
default in sarge ?

Thanks again Colin, and Stephan
Pete

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 On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 06:11:07AM -0700, Pete
 RedHair wrote:
  Thanks for your reply .
  
  I was forgetting putty since it worked fine with
 woody, however i did
  upgraded putty and now it works ok, even after the
 changes i made in
  sshd_config which didn't let me login.
  
  Guess i missed the problem tracking when i assumed
 everything was ok
  with my old version of putty (0.5.1), sorry.
 
 Aha, right.

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/changes.html
 indeed
 lists some crash bugs fixed after 0.51.
 
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Re: ssh problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-04-19 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 06:36:32AM -0700, Pete RedHair wrote:
It is now working without any problems.
Fine.

Stephan reported about some changes needed to do in
the sshd_config, should i keep them, are they to be
You'll need them, if you don't have your passwords in /etc/shadow but
in LDAP or Samba. At least, I needed them.
default in sarge ?
ChallengeResponseAuthentication is yes in new versions. I seemed to
have an really old config file. The other options are, too, yes in
new installations.
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Re: ssh problem after upgrade from woody to sarge

2004-04-19 Thread Pete RedHair
I'm using shadow so i guess i need the other config.
Anyway it's working.

Thanks
Pete

--- Stephan Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 06:36:32AM -0700, Pete
 RedHair wrote:
 It is now working without any problems.
 
 Fine.
 
 Stephan reported about some changes needed to do in
 the sshd_config, should i keep them, are they to be
 
 You'll need them, if you don't have your passwords
 in /etc/shadow but
 in LDAP or Samba. At least, I needed them.
 
 default in sarge ?
 
 ChallengeResponseAuthentication is yes in new
 versions. I seemed to
 have an really old config file. The other options
 are, too, yes in
 new installations.
 
 Shade and sweet water!
 
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Re: Anyone used Backports.org to upgrade a woody to 2.6?

2004-04-15 Thread Brian Brazil
On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 02:36:13PM -0700, Bill Moseley wrote:
 I see that there's both module-init-tools and a kernel-image-2.6.5
 (kernel-image-2.6.5-1-k7_2.6.5-0.backports.org.1_i386.deb)
 available.

There's another modules deb in the folder - make sure you have it
if you need to drop back to 2.4

 Anyone have success using those packages to update a Woody box?  One is 
 an Athlon XP 1800+, which I assume is should use the
 k7 kernel.  I also have a P4 and a PIII.

Yes. I roll my own kernel from vanilla. Athlon 1200.

 Any notes?  Did you add backports to source.list or download the .deb
 and use dpkg -i for the modules and kernel?

dpkg -i

 I normally build the kernels, but would really like to start using
 kernel-image packages to make upgrading easier.

Try make-kpkg.

Some problems I encountered:
I use devfs and devpts wasn't mounted(fun with ssh).
Modules names changed. Lots of them.
Programs in procps no longer work.

I'm considering dropping back to 2.4 until I can go to Sarge.

Brian


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Anyone used Backports.org to upgrade a woody to 2.6?

2004-04-14 Thread Bill Moseley
I see that there's both module-init-tools and a kernel-image-2.6.5
(kernel-image-2.6.5-1-k7_2.6.5-0.backports.org.1_i386.deb)
available.

Anyone have success using those packages to update a Woody box?  One is 
an Athlon XP 1800+, which I assume is should use the
k7 kernel.  I also have a P4 and a PIII.

Any notes?  Did you add backports to source.list or download the .deb
and use dpkg -i for the modules and kernel?

I have xfs file systems so I guess I'd need to use initrd since XFS is
included as a module -- is there any additional setup required?

I normally build the kernels, but would really like to start using
kernel-image packages to make upgrading easier.


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Latest kernel security upgrade in woody is BROKEN! DO NOT INSTALL!

2004-04-14 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Dear all,
It seems that at least on ix86, the latest woody security updates for 
the kernel packages are completely broken.  The kernel packages named 
kernel-image-2.4.18-1-subflavor with version 2.4.18-13 contain only 
one module.  DO NOT upgrade to these packages or your system will be 
broken when you reboot.

hoping this warning is timely and not _too_ redundant,

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Re: Latest kernel security upgrade in woody is BROKEN! DO NOT INSTALL!

2004-04-14 Thread Pete Clarke
 kernel packages named kernel-image-2.4.18-1-subflavor with version
2.4.18-13 contain only
 one module.

That and it expects the modules at 2.4.18-1 instead of 2.4.18-1-686-smp!

 hoping this warning is timely and not _too_ redundant,

:-)
Found out the hard way  there is a 13.1 now tho' ...



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Re: Anyone used Backports.org to upgrade a woody to 2.6?

2004-04-14 Thread Mark Roach
On Wed, 2004-04-14 at 14:36 -0700, Bill Moseley wrote:

 Anyone have success using those packages to update a Woody box?

Working great for my main mail/web server, and a postgres server at
work.

 Any notes?  Did you add backports to source.list or download the .deb
 and use dpkg -i for the modules and kernel?

I added the source.

 I have xfs file systems so I guess I'd need to use initrd since XFS is
 included as a module -- is there any additional setup required?

Shouldn't be anything special needed. The stock kernels are initrd
kernels. It should Just Work.

-Mark


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Upgrade de woody a SID i KDE

2004-02-20 Thread Toni Massó



Hola a tothom: 

Avui he intentat fer un upgrade de woody (amb KDE 
2.2)a SID. EL problema es que quan ja a baixat tot els paquets i comença a 
configurar em pregunta quin gestor de X vull, però nomes em dona dues opcions: 
gdm i xdm (no estic segur dels noms peraquè no els he apuntat quan tocaba...). 
El tema es que li dic gdm (deu ser gnome suposo) i just despres em comença a 
borrar paquets de kde (lògic suposo, si creu que no es faran servir). La 
pregunta es:
Hi alguna manera de que al fer la instalacio de SID 
em doni la opcio de "kdm". ¿Que faig malament? I ja posats, suposem que vull 
intsl·lar kde despres de que m'ho borri tot, per on haig de 
començar?

Moltes gracies per endavant!

Toni 

P.D: Per cer, els meus source-list es: 

deb http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ sid 
main non-free contribdeb-src http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ sid 
main non-free contribdeb http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/ 
sid/non-US main contribnon-freedeb-src http://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/ 
sid/non-US main contrib non-free


Re: Upgrade von Woody auf Sarge

2003-12-19 Thread Raimund Kohl-Fuechsle
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Andreas Pakulat wrote:

 Hae, ich halte es fuer ein Geruecht das das Archiv von
 debian-user-german keine Eintraege der juengeren Vergangenheit
 beherbergt. Oft sind Posts eher im Archiv als bei mir auf'm Rechner.

Ups, du hast Recht.  Ich hab grad noch mal nachgeschaut ... ich hatte bei
user.de  aufgehoert, weiter zu suchen, und hintendran in Klammer steht
(dead list, see user-german) ... tschuldigung

R.


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Upgrade von Woody auf Sarge

2003-12-18 Thread Raimund Kohl-Fuechsle
Hallo,

in einer Antwort, erst vor ein paar Tagen, war ein Link genannt, wo ich
Anleitung dazu finden kann, direkt ueber das Netz von Woody auf Sarge
einen upgrade zu machen.  Leider habe ich diese Mail nicht mehr.  Und das
Archiv der Mailingliste reicht nicht bis in die juengere Vergangenheit.
Kann mir jemand diesen Link noch mal nennen?

Danke,

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Re: Upgrade von Woody auf Sarge

2003-12-18 Thread Andreas Pakulat
On 18.Dec 2003 - 23:59:49, Raimund Kohl-Fuechsle wrote:
 Hallo,
 
 in einer Antwort, erst vor ein paar Tagen, war ein Link genannt, wo ich
 Anleitung dazu finden kann, direkt ueber das Netz von Woody auf Sarge
 einen upgrade zu machen.  Leider habe ich diese Mail nicht mehr.  Und das
 Archiv der Mailingliste reicht nicht bis in die juengere Vergangenheit.
 Kann mir jemand diesen Link noch mal nennen?

Hae, ich halte es fuer ein Geruecht das das Archiv von
debian-user-german keine Eintraege der juengeren Vergangenheit
beherbergt. Oft sind Posts eher im Archiv als bei mir auf'm Rechner.

Zu deinem Problem: Sofern du keine! Backports installiert hast ist ein
einfaches austauschen vonn woody bzw. stable durch sarge bzw. testing
in der /etc/apt/sources.list ausreichend. Danach natuerlich noch ein
apt-get update um die neuen Paketlisten zu laden. Dann kannst du mit
einem apt-get -u dist-upgrade das ganze System auf testing Level
bringen. Guck dir dazu auch noch die Optionen zu apt-get in der
Manpage an, speziell die nichts tun Option, bei der er nur so tut
als ob. Und wie gesagt: Wenn du Backports drauf hast, wirds u.U.
schwierig ein Upgrade auf Sarge durchzuefuehren.

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Re: sauberer upgrade von woody auf sid mglich?

2003-11-14 Thread Sven Bergner
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 10:21:57PM +0100, Sven 'Rae the Git' Grounsell wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:56:30 +0100
 abo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  hallo,
  gerade wollte ich von stable auf unstable upgraden
  ich habe sources.list and apt.conf angepasst und 'apt-get update'
  ausgeführt.
  
  mit 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' würde ich folgende packete verlieren:
  
  The following packages will be REMOVED:
  console-tools-libs igerman kdebase kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdelibs3-bin
  konsole
  libdigest-md5-perl libfam0 libkonq3 liblcms libmemoize-perl
  libmime-base64-perl
  libvorbis0 libweakref-perl libxml-twig-perl libxmltv-perl mp3blaster mythtv
  mythtv-backend mythtv-frontend wgerman xmltv-util
  
  Ich habe ausschliesslich woody packete auf dem rechner.
  wie soll ich weiter vorgehen?
  
  freu mich über jeden hinweis!
  andreas
 
 am einfachsten geht das, indem du ein frontend wie aptitude benutzt (ncurses),
 dir die pakete anzeigen laesst, die er installieren, updaten und
 deinstallieren will und da die pakete, die du auf jeden fall behalten willst,
 auf hold setzt (=, shift+0).
 aptitude sollte dann automatisch die abhaengigkeiten und moegliche broken
 packets so loesen, dass der gewuenschte effekt eintritt, wenn das technisch
 moeglich ist.
 
 nur ein weg von wahrscheinlich unzaehligen :o)
 
Moin,
ich würde keine Pakete auf hold setzen. Wenn ein dist-upgrade einige
Pakete deinstallieren möchte, dann wird es seine Gründe dafür
haben. Ich würde zunächst die sources.list von allen woody Einträgen
befreien. Dann würde ich an Deiner Stelle die Namen der Pakete die
deinstalliert wurden aufschreiben und nach dem dist-upgrade neu
installieren.
Die KDE-Pakete z.B. muss er eh komplett neu holen, da sie zu den alten
nicht mehr kompatibel sind.

Gruß,
  Sven
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Re: sauberer upgrade von woody auf sid moeglich?

2003-11-14 Thread Sven 'Rae the Git' Grounsell
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:48:54 +0100
Sven Bergner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Moin,
 ich würde keine Pakete auf hold setzen. Wenn ein dist-upgrade einige
 Pakete deinstallieren möchte, dann wird es seine Gründe dafür
 haben.

ja, z.b. den grund, dass die version eines pakets in unstable oder testing
dependencies hat, die entweder momentan ungeloest sind, oder die
voruebergehende zwischenversionen sind, mit denen eines oder mehrere der
anderen installierten pakete nix anfangen koennen.
wenn man auf diesen rat hoert, nichts auf hold zu setzen, erlebt man des
oefteren, dass man z.b. ne zeitlang ohne mplayer auskommen soll, oder sein
lieblingsspiel gerade nicht zu den aktuellen paketversionen passt :o)

gruss
Sven

ps: Subject: Re: sauberer upgrade von woody auf sid möglich? -- genau aus
dem grund haben umlaute und sonderzeichen jenseits von der regulaeren
interpunktion im mailheader nix zu suchen ;o)

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Re: sauberer upgrade von woody auf sid moeglich?

2003-11-14 Thread Sven Bergner
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:06:41PM +0100, Sven 'Rae the Git' Grounsell wrote:
 On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:48:54 +0100
 Sven Bergner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Moin,
  ich würde keine Pakete auf hold setzen. Wenn ein dist-upgrade einige
  Pakete deinstallieren möchte, dann wird es seine Gründe dafür
  haben.
 
 ja, z.b. den grund, dass die version eines pakets in unstable oder testing
 dependencies hat, die entweder momentan ungeloest sind, oder die
 voruebergehende zwischenversionen sind, mit denen eines oder mehrere der
 anderen installierten pakete nix anfangen koennen.
 wenn man auf diesen rat hoert, nichts auf hold zu setzen, erlebt man des
 oefteren, dass man z.b. ne zeitlang ohne mplayer auskommen soll, oder sein
 lieblingsspiel gerade nicht zu den aktuellen paketversionen passt :o)
 
Wenn man diese Dinge nicht in den Griff bekommt, sollte man vielleicht
die Finger von SID lassen. Ich benutze jetzt seit geraumer Zeit SID
und habe alles was ich brauche.

 gruss
 Sven
 
 ps: Subject: Re: sauberer upgrade von woody auf sid möglich? -- genau aus
 dem grund haben umlaute und sonderzeichen jenseits von der regulaeren
 interpunktion im mailheader nix zu suchen ;o)
Das Subjekt stammt nicht von mir.

Gruß,
  Sven

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Re: sauberer upgrade von woody auf sid moeglich?

2003-11-14 Thread Sven 'Rae the Git' Grounsell
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:26:46 +0100
Sven Bergner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:06:41PM +0100, Sven 'Rae the Git' Grounsell
 wrote:
  On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:48:54 +0100
  Sven Bergner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Moin,
   ich würde keine Pakete auf hold setzen. Wenn ein dist-upgrade einige
   Pakete deinstallieren möchte, dann wird es seine Gründe dafür
   haben.
  
  ja, z.b. den grund, dass die version eines pakets in unstable oder testing
  dependencies hat, die entweder momentan ungeloest sind, oder die
  voruebergehende zwischenversionen sind, mit denen eines oder mehrere der
  anderen installierten pakete nix anfangen koennen.
  wenn man auf diesen rat hoert, nichts auf hold zu setzen, erlebt man des
  oefteren, dass man z.b. ne zeitlang ohne mplayer auskommen soll, oder sein
  lieblingsspiel gerade nicht zu den aktuellen paketversionen passt :o)
  
 Wenn man diese Dinge nicht in den Griff bekommt, sollte man vielleicht
 die Finger von SID lassen. Ich benutze jetzt seit geraumer Zeit SID
 und habe alles was ich brauche.

das steht nochmal auf nem anderen blatt ... ich bin eh erstaunt, wie oft
immernoch debian als einsteiger-linux empfohlen wird. das schafft IMO nur
unnoetigen frust...

ketz
debian installieren ist was fuer linuxer mit zuviel freizeit,
debian aktuell halten ist was fuer kinder,
und einsteiger nehmen lieber gleich suse.
/ketz

*vorsorglich in deckung geh* ;o)

  ps: Subject: Re: sauberer upgrade von woody auf sid möglich? -- genau
  aus dem grund haben umlaute und sonderzeichen jenseits von der regulaeren
  interpunktion im mailheader nix zu suchen ;o)
 Das Subjekt stammt nicht von mir.

wer sagt, dass das von dir sei? :o)

gruss
auch Sven

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Re: sauberer upgrade von woody auf sid moeglich?

2003-11-14 Thread Sven Bergner
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:49:24PM +0100, Sven 'Rae the Git' Grounsell wrote:
 On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:26:46 +0100
 Sven Bergner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 12:06:41PM +0100, Sven 'Rae the Git' Grounsell
  wrote:
   On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 09:48:54 +0100
   Sven Bergner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Moin,
ich würde keine Pakete auf hold setzen. Wenn ein dist-upgrade einige
Pakete deinstallieren möchte, dann wird es seine Gründe dafür
haben.
   
   ja, z.b. den grund, dass die version eines pakets in unstable oder testing
   dependencies hat, die entweder momentan ungeloest sind, oder die
   voruebergehende zwischenversionen sind, mit denen eines oder mehrere der
   anderen installierten pakete nix anfangen koennen.
   wenn man auf diesen rat hoert, nichts auf hold zu setzen, erlebt man des
   oefteren, dass man z.b. ne zeitlang ohne mplayer auskommen soll, oder sein
   lieblingsspiel gerade nicht zu den aktuellen paketversionen passt :o)
   
  Wenn man diese Dinge nicht in den Griff bekommt, sollte man vielleicht
  die Finger von SID lassen. Ich benutze jetzt seit geraumer Zeit SID
  und habe alles was ich brauche.
 
 das steht nochmal auf nem anderen blatt ... ich bin eh erstaunt, wie oft
 immernoch debian als einsteiger-linux empfohlen wird. das schafft IMO nur
 unnoetigen frust...
 
 ketz
 debian installieren ist was fuer linuxer mit zuviel freizeit,
 debian aktuell halten ist was fuer kinder,
 und einsteiger nehmen lieber gleich suse.
 /ketz
 
Für mich ist der Thread hier zu Ende. Wir sind ja nicht im Heise
Forum.

Gruß,
  Sven

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Re: sauberer upgrade von woody auf sid moeglich?

2003-11-14 Thread Sven 'Rae the Git' Grounsell
On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:01:44 +0100
Sven Bergner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Für mich ist der Thread hier zu Ende. Wir sind ja nicht im Heise
 Forum.

das stimmt, denn im heise-forum wird zu 99% geflamed, sprich unfundierte
kommentare werden abgelassen, die a) keinerlei realitaetsbezug haben und b)
auch auf nachfrage hin keinerlei rechtfertigung jenseits von persoenlicher
sympathie oder antipathie bekommen.
selbstkritik faellt AFAIK jedoch nicht unter o.g. kriterien.

gruss
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sauberer upgrade von woody auf sid möglich?

2003-11-13 Thread abo
hallo,
gerade wollte ich von stable auf unstable upgraden
ich habe sources.list and apt.conf angepasst und 'apt-get update'
ausgeführt.

mit 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' würde ich folgende packete verlieren:

The following packages will be REMOVED:
console-tools-libs igerman kdebase kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdelibs3-bin
konsole
libdigest-md5-perl libfam0 libkonq3 liblcms libmemoize-perl
libmime-base64-perl
libvorbis0 libweakref-perl libxml-twig-perl libxmltv-perl mp3blaster mythtv
mythtv-backend mythtv-frontend wgerman xmltv-util

Ich habe ausschliesslich woody packete auf dem rechner.
wie soll ich weiter vorgehen?

freu mich über jeden hinweis!
andreas



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Re: sauberer upgrade von woody auf sid mglich?

2003-11-13 Thread Sven 'Rae the Git' Grounsell
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 21:56:30 +0100
abo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hallo,
 gerade wollte ich von stable auf unstable upgraden
 ich habe sources.list and apt.conf angepasst und 'apt-get update'
 ausgeführt.
 
 mit 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' würde ich folgende packete verlieren:
 
 The following packages will be REMOVED:
 console-tools-libs igerman kdebase kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdelibs3-bin
 konsole
 libdigest-md5-perl libfam0 libkonq3 liblcms libmemoize-perl
 libmime-base64-perl
 libvorbis0 libweakref-perl libxml-twig-perl libxmltv-perl mp3blaster mythtv
 mythtv-backend mythtv-frontend wgerman xmltv-util
 
 Ich habe ausschliesslich woody packete auf dem rechner.
 wie soll ich weiter vorgehen?
 
 freu mich über jeden hinweis!
 andreas

am einfachsten geht das, indem du ein frontend wie aptitude benutzt (ncurses),
dir die pakete anzeigen laesst, die er installieren, updaten und
deinstallieren will und da die pakete, die du auf jeden fall behalten willst,
auf hold setzt (=, shift+0).
aptitude sollte dann automatisch die abhaengigkeiten und moegliche broken
packets so loesen, dass der gewuenschte effekt eintritt, wenn das technisch
moeglich ist.

nur ein weg von wahrscheinlich unzaehligen :o)

gruss
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Upgrade desde Woody a Testing

2003-09-09 Thread Marcelo Fernandez
Hola, estoy migrando desde Mandrake a Debian; conseguí los 3 primeros
cds de Woody 3.0r1, y lo instalé perfectamente. Aprendí a utilizar
apt-get, y bajé las actualizaciones. Todo muy bien. Ahora, tengo
entendido que lo que tengo hasta ahora es lo más estable (la
distribución estable), pero es algo viejito, porque quiero utilizar
cosas un poco más actualizadas, como KDE 3.1.3 y Gnome 2.25, ya que mi
máquina es una máquina de escritorio.

Mi pregunta es: teniendo Woody instalado y al día, como hago para
upgradear a la versión Testing (Sarge) de Debian vía Internet?
Con Apt-Get? o directamente me tengo que bajar las ISOs de la versión
Sarge?

Me animé a tocar el archivo /etc/apt/aptlists (o algo así) y cambié los
sources, en donde decía stable lo cambié por testing... Bajó unos 60
MB, pero me parece que pisé algunas cosas, y algunos paquetes se negaron
a instalar (error en el dpkg). En consecuencia, asumo que este no es el
método, entonces, cuál es?

Muchas Gracias




Upgrade desde Woody a Testing

2003-09-09 Thread Marcelo Fernandez
Hola, estoy migrando desde Mandrake a Debian; conseguí los 3 primeros
cds de Woody 3.0r1, y lo instalé perfectamente. Aprendí a utilizar
apt-get, y bajé las actualizaciones. Todo muy bien. Ahora, tengo
entendido que lo que tengo hasta ahora es lo más estable (la
distribución estable), pero es algo viejito, porque quiero utilizar
cosas un poco más actualizadas, como KDE 3.1.3 y Gnome 2.25, ya que mi
máquina es una máquina de escritorio.

Mi pregunta es: teniendo Woody instalado y al día, como hago para
upgradear a la versión Testing (Sarge) de Debian vía Internet?
Con Apt-Get? o directamente me tengo que bajar las ISOs de la versión
Sarge?

Me animé a tocar el archivo /etc/apt/aptlists (o algo así) y cambié los
sources, en donde decía stable lo cambié por testing... Bajó unos 60
MB, pero me parece que pisé algunas cosas, y algunos paquetes se negaron
a instalar (error en el dpkg). En consecuencia, asumo que este no es el
método, entonces, cuál es?

Muchas Gracias



Re: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing

2003-09-09 Thread Emilio Santos
Coordenadas temporales: Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 03:04:05AM -0300
Sujeto: Marcelo Fernandez
Comunicaba sobre: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing

 Me animé a tocar el archivo /etc/apt/aptlists (o algo así) y cambié los

/etc/apt/sources.list

 sources, en donde decía stable lo cambié por testing... Bajó unos 60

Bien.

 MB, pero me parece que pisé algunas cosas, y algunos paquetes se negaron
 a instalar (error en el dpkg). En consecuencia, asumo que este no es el
 método, entonces, cuál es?

Bajo 60 Mb... ¿Cuando, con que orden? Porque solo por cambiar ese
fichero, no actualizas nada.

El procedimiento es:

-Cambiar el fichero, como has hecho.
-Ejecutar apt-get update
-Ejecutar apt-get dist-upgrade

Todo esto como root y ya tienes Sarge.

Más información: man apt-get man sources.list

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Re: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing

2003-09-09 Thread Marcelo Fernandez
Si, habia hecho lo que me has dicho: cambié el archivo de sources de apt
y luego hice un apt-get upgrade (alli bajó 60 MB). Ahí es donde me dice
que unos paquetes de console (common-console creo) no se pueden
instalar... Aunque estoy dispuesto a instalar el Debian de nuevo, ya que
tengo que reparar algunos errores de la instalación...

Muchas Gracias!
Saludos
Marcelo

El mar, 09-09-2003 a las 03:23, Emilio Santos escribió:
 Coordenadas temporales: Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 03:04:05AM -0300
 Sujeto: Marcelo Fernandez
 Comunicaba sobre: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing
 
  Me animé a tocar el archivo /etc/apt/aptlists (o algo así) y cambié los
 
 /etc/apt/sources.list
 
  sources, en donde decía stable lo cambié por testing... Bajó unos 60
 
 Bien.
 
  MB, pero me parece que pisé algunas cosas, y algunos paquetes se negaron
  a instalar (error en el dpkg). En consecuencia, asumo que este no es el
  método, entonces, cuál es?
 
 Bajo 60 Mb... ¿Cuando, con que orden? Porque solo por cambiar ese
 fichero, no actualizas nada.
 
 El procedimiento es:
 
 -Cambiar el fichero, como has hecho.
 -Ejecutar apt-get update
 -Ejecutar apt-get dist-upgrade
 
 Todo esto como root y ya tienes Sarge.
 
 Más información: man apt-get man sources.list
 
 Salu2




RE: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing

2003-09-09 Thread Miguel Corbella
Hola,

Yo tenia problemas para actualizarme tambien y siguiendo esto tengo
actualizado mi Debian a Sarge y el Kde 3.1.3 ... solo me falta el GNOME
... tiempo al tiempo :

PASAR DE WOODY A SARGE
http://es.kde.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=415forum=6jump=
1

INSTALAR KDE 3.1.3
http://es.kde.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=81

Espero que te sirva ... por cierto si alguien tiene lo de GNOME que nos
ayude.

Saludos
Miguel Corbella

-Mensaje original-
De: Marcelo Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviado el: martes, 09 de septiembre de 2003 8:03
Para: Foro Debian
Asunto: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing

Hola, estoy migrando desde Mandrake a Debian; conseguí los 3 primeros
cds de Woody 3.0r1, y lo instalé perfectamente. Aprendí a utilizar
apt-get, y bajé las actualizaciones. Todo muy bien. Ahora, tengo
entendido que lo que tengo hasta ahora es lo más estable (la
distribución estable), pero es algo viejito, porque quiero utilizar
cosas un poco más actualizadas, como KDE 3.1.3 y Gnome 2.25, ya que mi
máquina es una máquina de escritorio.

Mi pregunta es: teniendo Woody instalado y al día, como hago para
upgradear a la versión Testing (Sarge) de Debian vía Internet?
Con Apt-Get? o directamente me tengo que bajar las ISOs de la versión
Sarge?

Me animé a tocar el archivo /etc/apt/aptlists (o algo así) y cambié los
sources, en donde decía stable lo cambié por testing... Bajó unos 60
MB, pero me parece que pisé algunas cosas, y algunos paquetes se negaron
a instalar (error en el dpkg). En consecuencia, asumo que este no es el
método, entonces, cuál es?

Muchas Gracias


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Re: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing

2003-09-09 Thread Borxa Varela Bouzas
De todas formas el kde 3.1.x no esta en sarge, solo los paquetes de traduccion 
kde-i18n-xx, yo me he actualizado ayer mismo de woody a sarge, y he tenído 
que conservar los paquetes del kde 3.1.x que tenía de woody bajados de kde, 
en debian, estan en sid... puede que en unas semanas se pasen a sarge, pero 
eso yo, ya no lo sé.

Así que, creo que tendrás que tener sarge, con los paquetes creados para woody 
en kde, mientras en debian no se pongan en sarge.



Re: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing

2003-09-09 Thread Rodrigo Valenzuela
 Hola,
 
 Yo tenia problemas para actualizarme tambien y siguiendo esto tengo
 actualizado mi Debian a Sarge y el Kde 3.1.3 ... solo me falta el
 GNOME... tiempo al tiempo :
 
 PASAR DE WOODY A SARGE
 http://es.kde.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=415forum=6jump=
 1
 
 INSTALAR KDE 3.1.3
 http://es.kde.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=81
 
 Espero que te sirva ... por cierto si alguien tiene lo de GNOME que
 nos ayude.

Facil, simplemente puse  deb http://mirror.raw.no/ gnome2.2/ en el
sources.list y listo, o si no
deb
http://ftp.acc.umu.se/mirror/mirrors.evilgeniuses.org.uk/debian/backports/woody/
gnome2.2/.

Todo esto para Woody. Hasta ahora no he tenido problemas.
Saludos



RE: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing

2003-09-09 Thread Miguel Corbella
Eso he visto que no hay metapackages para KDE 3.1.3, tengo que
seleccionar paquete a paquete los que quiero instalar 

Sl2

-Mensaje original-
De: Borxa Varela Bouzas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviado el: martes, 09 de septiembre de 2003 11:32
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Asunto: Re: Upgrade desde Woody a Testing

De todas formas el kde 3.1.x no esta en sarge, solo los paquetes de
traduccion 
kde-i18n-xx, yo me he actualizado ayer mismo de woody a sarge, y he
tenído 
que conservar los paquetes del kde 3.1.x que tenía de woody bajados de
kde, 
en debian, estan en sid... puede que en unas semanas se pasen a sarge,
pero 
eso yo, ya no lo sé.

Así que, creo que tendrás que tener sarge, con los paquetes creados para
woody 
en kde, mientras en debian no se pongan en sarge.


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upgrade to woody - screen sessions without BACKSPACE

2003-08-20 Thread Holger Marzen
Hi all,

since I upgraded Debian 2.2. machines to Debian Woody I always have some
problems when I log in to older Debian machines and start screen.
Within that screen session I cannot use BACKSPACE or DEL. I can emulate
BACKSPACE with ctrlh.

What can I do to get BACKPSACE back to work in screen-sessions on Debian
2.2. machines?

When I press BACKSPACE then I get [3~.

Regards
Holger


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Re: upgrade fvwm (woody)

2003-07-23 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo
Cesar Rincon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 03:12, Ignacio García Fernández wrote:
  Argh!! no estoy solo en el mundo!! Alguien más usa fvwm!! :-D
  Un día de estos intercambiamos ficheros de configuración 
  :op
 
 ¡Yo! ¡Yo también! ¡Yo!
 
 Otro usuario satisfecho de FVWM, aquí :-)
[...]
 Supongo que ya habrás resuelto tu problema con la versión, así que sólo
 preguntaré: ¿porqué quieres actualizar?  ¿Algún beneficio específico en
 la nueva versión?

Es básicamente por algunas mejoras estéticas, como por ejemplo el manejo
de Transparencias. En lo que respecta a funcionalidad, 2.4.x está ok.

saludos

-ejg



Re: upgrade fvwm (woody)

2003-07-22 Thread Ignacio García Fernández
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 02:50:22PM -0400, Eduardo Gargiulo wrote:
 Hola a todos.
 
 Actualmente estoy corriendo debian 3.0_r1 y todo funciona ok.
 Ahora quiero actualizar la versión de fvwm a 2.5.7. Qué es lo mas

Argh!! no estoy solo en el mundo!! Alguien más usa fvwm!! :-D
Un día de estos intercambiamos ficheros de configuración 
:op


 recomendable, cambiar mis sources y pasarme a testing/unstable (no se en
 qué estado se encuentra) o bajarme los fuentes y compilarlos por separado?

Cambiar tu source.list y editar el fichero preferences que hay en el mismo
directorio

 
 Hay alguna forma debian de manejarme en estos casos?

Esa. En el fichero preferences le puedes decir que ignore todas las entradas
del sourcees list de testing o unstable, salvo para ciertos paquetes, que es
lo que tu quieres

Pero mira antes las dependencias de fvwm, porque tal vez la versión 2.5 no
la puedas usar en woody porque necesites versiones más nuevas de
bibliotecas del sistema o algo.

 
 gracias por adelantado ...
 
 -ejg



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Re: upgrade fvwm (woody)

2003-07-22 Thread Fernando
Ignacio García Fernández wrote:
 
 On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 02:50:22PM -0400, Eduardo Gargiulo wrote:
  Hola a todos.
 
  Actualmente estoy corriendo debian 3.0_r1 y todo funciona ok.
  Ahora quiero actualizar la versión de fvwm a 2.5.7. Qué es lo mas
 
 Argh!! no estoy solo en el mundo!! Alguien más usa fvwm!! :-D
 Un día de estos intercambiamos ficheros de configuración
 :op

Somos muchos los que usamos fvwm, yo lo he probado incluso con Gnome.

Parece muy simple cuando lo instalas pero tiene muchas posibilidades y
una vez personalizado uno ya no lo cambia por nada.

Es muy configuralble, a mi me encanta por ejemplo usar el 
escritorio virtual en el que al alcanzar el borde de la pantalla
se mueve un poco el área de visualización como si movieras una ventana
sobre 9 monitores en mi caso.
(Hay gente a la que esto le marea, pero yo no se vivir sin ello)


# 
# DeskTopSize sets the size of the desktop in units of physical screen
# `pages'.  I prefer to use a single desktop with multiple pages,
# but many people like having multiple desktops.  I thinks its
confusing.
# 
DeskTopSize 3x3
#
# I like to be able to move between pages or desks simply by moving
# the mouse against the screen border.  I find it very useful.  The
# following command enables this behaviour.  To disable it, the
# command EdgeScroll 0 0 could be placed in the post.hook.
#
EdgeScroll 100 100 
#(Cuando se alcanza el borde se desplaza 100 puntos)

Otras opciones que me gustan:

   - permite maximizar las ventanas en vertical y horizontal, que mara
mi 
   es de lo mas útil

   - permite mimimizar la pantalla dejando solo la barra de título.
   (en mi caso lo tengo con el botón derecho del ratón sobre el título)
   - permite asignar las acciones a los botones del ratón en las 
   distintas situaciones.
   - Tiene un monton de modulos adicionales para hacer multitud de cosas
   desde una barra de tareas hasta...

En fin que sobre todo para maquinas pequeñas es una maravilla


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Re: upgrade fvwm (woody)

2003-07-22 Thread Eduardo Gargiulo
Ignacio García Fernández [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 02:50:22PM -0400, Eduardo Gargiulo wrote:
  Hola a todos.
  
  Actualmente estoy corriendo debian 3.0_r1 y todo funciona ok.
  Ahora quiero actualizar la versión de fvwm a 2.5.7. Qué es lo mas
 
 Argh!! no estoy solo en el mundo!! Alguien más usa fvwm!! :-D
 Un día de estos intercambiamos ficheros de configuración 
 :op
 
 
  recomendable, cambiar mis sources y pasarme a testing/unstable (no se en
  qué estado se encuentra) o bajarme los fuentes y compilarlos por separado?
 
 Cambiar tu source.list y editar el fichero preferences que hay en el mismo
 directorio
 
  
  Hay alguna forma debian de manejarme en estos casos?
 
 Esa. En el fichero preferences le puedes decir que ignore todas las entradas
 del sourcees list de testing o unstable, salvo para ciertos paquetes, que es
 lo que tu quieres
 
 Pero mira antes las dependencias de fvwm, porque tal vez la versión 2.5 no
 la puedas usar en woody porque necesites versiones más nuevas de
 bibliotecas del sistema o algo.

Y cómo debería hacer para bajarme los fuentes de fvwm-2.5.7 con apt-get?
En este caso, apt actualizaría las dependencias o debería hacerlo a
mano?

Muchas gracias por responder. Soy un usuario mas que satisfecho con fvwm
y cada día me sorprende mas con todas las posibilidades que ofrece,
aunque hay que reconocer que lleva su tiempo aprender a customizarlo.

saludos

-ejg


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Re: upgrade fvwm (woody)

2003-07-22 Thread Cesar Rincon
On Tue, 2003-07-22 at 03:12, Ignacio García Fernández wrote:
 Argh!! no estoy solo en el mundo!! Alguien más usa fvwm!! :-D
 Un día de estos intercambiamos ficheros de configuración 
 :op

¡Yo! ¡Yo también! ¡Yo!

Otro usuario satisfecho de FVWM, aquí :-)

Yo tengo configurados teclazos y strokes (trazos con el mouse) para
disparar aplicaciones y comandos.  Ejemplos: PgUp/PgDn retrocede y
avanza la canción en XMMS; los botones de scroll en mi touchpad suben y
bajan el volumen; dibujar una 'e' sobre el background lanza Emacs...

(ésto último es presumir, nada más... no es que lo use mucho, siendo que
presionar la letra 'e' sobre el background hace lo mismo, y yo soy más
de teclado que de mouse :-)

Supongo que ya habrás resuelto tu problema con la versión, así que sólo
preguntaré: ¿porqué quieres actualizar?  ¿Algún beneficio específico en
la nueva versión?

 -CR




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