Re: [solved] Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Glad to hear you have somehow alleviated your memory problems but remember that when your system makes use of the swap space it usually means that you need more physical RAM on that computer. Just keep an eye on it ;-) I will, thanks. But for now, the most important is that the web browser does not block the system any more and I don't have to unplug the machine many times a day! Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87lijze26i@gmail.com
[solved] Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:27 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Recently I've been having a problem with my web browser: it gets slow, the mouse and the keyboard don't respond any more and I have to unplug the machine. Can anybody suggest how I can detect why this happen and provide a remedy? Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: How much RAM has your system and what says free -m when you launch the browser? Rodolfo: Before launching the browser, the command `free -m' gives something like: $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 216154 62 0 6 61 -/+ buffers/cache: 85130 Swap:0 0 0 Camaleón: Wow... 216 MB of ram and you have _no swap_? That's suicide... Rodolfo: When I parted the hard disk, I remeber leaving about 1 gigabite swap, and in fact here it is from `parted': # parted (...) Number Start End SizeType File system Flags 1 32.3kB 8390MB 8390MB primary fat32boot 2 8390MB 40.1GB 31.7GB extended lba 5 8390MB 9434MB 1045MB logical linux-swap 6 9434MB 21.0GB 11.5GB logical ext3 7 21.0GB 26.2GB 5239MB logical ext3 8 26.2GB 40.1GB 13.8GB logical ext3 I don't know why it does not figure in `free -m', but it is there. Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: The /swap partition has to be mounted. Put here the content of your /etc/ fstab. Rodolfo: (...) # /dev/hda5 none swapsw 0 0 UUID=bdc14217-c199-40fc-ae6b-47657e54cee3none swapsw 0 0 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Well, there are two partitions there, the first is commented out (thus not used) and the second seems to be enabled. Check if that UUID corresponds to the swap partition (ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid). Rodolfo: Maybe the main cause of the problem is the swap partition not mounted? Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Having swap can help but in your case, with as little as 216 MB of RAM I don't know if that would be enough. Well, the cause of the problem seems to be just the absence of the swap. In fact, following Camaleón's suggestions, I ran `ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid' and noticed that the swap's uuid was different from the one in /etc/fstab. So I edited /etc/fstab and put the right uuid, then rebooted and... the problem disappeared! I've been testing now for a few days and and it never happened any more. I don't know and can't imagine why in /etc/fstab there was a wrong uuid. The same problem I had in my netbook and fixed it now. Now I have the following output for `free -m': $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 216135 81 0 4 57 -/+ buffers/cache: 74142 Swap: 996 16980 without mozilla and, while running mozilla: $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 216209 7 0 5 67 -/+ buffers/cache:136 80 Swap: 996 17978 Many thanks to all who replied, and in particular to Camaleón. Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87txyqukny@gmail.com
Re: [solved] Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 10:18:09 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:27 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: (...) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Having swap can help but in your case, with as little as 216 MB of RAM I don't know if that would be enough. Well, the cause of the problem seems to be just the absence of the swap. In fact, following Camaleón's suggestions, I ran `ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid' and noticed that the swap's uuid was different from the one in /etc/fstab. So I edited /etc/fstab and put the right uuid, then rebooted and... the problem disappeared! (...) Glad to hear you have somehow alleviated your memory problems but remember that when your system makes use of the swap space it usually means that you need more physical RAM on that computer. Just keep an eye on it ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jql3hh$60h$6...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:58:27 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) Just for you to get the idea, in my system (64-bits with 8 GiB of RAM), Firefox takes 99 MiB of real memory (now 101 MiB)... go figure. Wow, that isn't much! I have 8GB as well, my SeaMonkey is currently using over 1,700 MB (resident)... that is with about 95 tabs open (normal for me). When I had 4GB RAM, it would take a lot less than that for that many tabs, though (more like 1,200 MB, I believe). Ah, I guess you never close your browser, right? I do (I close the browser), I never have Firefox opened more than 1 minute or so with a few tabs (no more than 10) and I have it configured to delete all the cache data every time it closes... still, 100 MiB of RAM is too much for me and the way I use the browser (I think windows does a better memory management in this regard). In any case, the point is all modern browsers want a lot of memory. Yes. In addition, I also have noticed that 64 bits applications are noticeably more memory hungry than their counterparts in 32 bits which can be irrelevant when you have 8 GiB of RAM but it can make a difference when using 2/4 GiB instead... Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jqg0rk$f3a$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:58:23 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo Medina rodolfo.med...@gmail.com writes: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: (...) But why didn't the problem occur before in the past? It has become heavy only recently, and the machine is always the same. I can't tell but your system can't be happy with 216 MB of ram and running applications such as Iceweasel. Sooner or later it has to break. Is it possible that ram has decreased? Now I noticed that the problem also occurs running `scanimage'. I don't remember it ever occurred in the past! RAM is always a scarce resource but it cannot physically dissapear ;-) Anyway, reconsider your current running desktop and aplications; with less than 512 MB of RAM your system will suffer from constant hicups now and then if you try to use GNOME or KDE and the so called big browsers (Firefox/Opera/Chrome...). Just for you to get the idea, in my system (64-bits with 8 GiB of RAM), Firefox takes 99 MiB of real memory (now 101 MiB)... go figure. Wow, that isn't much! I have 8GB as well, my SeaMonkey is currently using over 1,700 MB (resident)... that is with about 95 tabs open (normal for me). When I had 4GB RAM, it would take a lot less than that for that many tabs, though (more like 1,200 MB, I believe). In any case, the point is all modern browsers want a lot of memory. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=9WqmfjyUmy2Fub=g7kexe0kpkrkspxfmxach19crw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On 05/30/2012 01:17 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:58:23 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo Medinarodolfo.med...@gmail.com writes: Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com writes: (...) But why didn't the problem occur before in the past? It has become heavy only recently, and the machine is always the same. I can't tell but your system can't be happy with 216 MB of ram and running applications such as Iceweasel. Sooner or later it has to break. Is it possible that ram has decreased? Now I noticed that the problem also occurs running `scanimage'. I don't remember it ever occurred in the past! RAM is always a scarce resource but it cannot physically dissapear ;-) Anyway, reconsider your current running desktop and aplications; with less than 512 MB of RAM your system will suffer from constant hicups now and then if you try to use GNOME or KDE and the so called big browsers (Firefox/Opera/Chrome...). Just for you to get the idea, in my system (64-bits with 8 GiB of RAM), Firefox takes 99 MiB of real memory (now 101 MiB)... go figure. My box was a low end bare bones system and came with only 256MB of RAM. That was quite a while ago. As it got loaded up and programs (like browsers) got larger it got slower and slower. It was amazing what adding a second stick with another 1GB did for system performance with no changes other than the addition of the RAM. Since then I have replaced the original 256MB sticj with another 1 GB stick, bringing my total to 2GB (the max for my current MB). This has made a world of difference! Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fc860e2.8070...@gmail.com
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:27 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Recently I've been having a problem with my web browser: it gets slow, the mouse and the keyboard don't respond any more and I have to unplug the machine. Can anybody suggest how I can detect why this happen and provide a remedy? Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Rodolfo, I'm still unsure about the origin of the problem. We are pointing to the web browser as the culprit for the system freeze but given that is not just Icewasel exposing the same issue, we can also consider another sources. 1/ Have you experienced the problem when running another applications (different than the browser) No, never: it only happens with the web browser. 2/ Can you still login to the system when it freezes, I mean, from ssh? I haven't tried, I wouldn't well know how. 3/ Have you updated yet your Iceweasel? :-) No, I haven't: but why is this important? 4/ Is there something at the logs? I woudn't know how to check that. 5/ What VGA driver are you using and what's your VGA card? I wouldn't know how to check that, but the problem didn't use to occur in the past, at least not so often and regularly, every day. 6/ How much RAM has your system and what says free -m when you launch the browser? Before launching the browser, the command `free -m' gives something like: $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 216154 62 0 6 61 -/+ buffers/cache: 85130 Swap:0 0 0 , whereas, when `mozilla' is running, it gives: $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 216208 8 0 0 20 -/+ buffers/cache:187 28 Swap:0 0 0 Thanks for (I hope!) further help Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87obp5mxd0@gmail.com
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Wed, 30 May 2012 16:45:15 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: 1/ Have you experienced the problem when running another applications (different than the browser) No, never: it only happens with the web browser. Okay. 2/ Can you still login to the system when it freezes, I mean, from ssh? I haven't tried, I wouldn't well know how. You need a second computer connected over the local network and ssh setup, running and configured which is not the default in Debian. 3/ Have you updated yet your Iceweasel? :-) No, I haven't: but why is this important? For this problem, no. For your system's security, yes. 4/ Is there something at the logs? I woudn't know how to check that. System logs are placed under /var/log/syslog, you can start by reading from there, maybe there's a kernel oops or oom error printed. 5/ What VGA driver are you using and what's your VGA card? I wouldn't know how to check that, but the problem didn't use to occur in the past, at least not so often and regularly, every day. lspci -vv will tell. 6/ How much RAM has your system and what says free -m when you launch the browser? Before launching the browser, the command `free -m' gives something like: $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 216154 62 0 6 61 -/+ buffers/cache: 85130 Swap:0 0 0 Wow... 216 MB of ram and you have _no swap_? That's suicide... And 130 MB of available ram. It looks too low. , whereas, when `mozilla' is running, it gives: $ free -m total used free sharedbufferscached Mem: 216208 8 0 0 20 -/+ buffers/cache:187 28 Swap:0 0 0 What the...!!! :-O How can you pretend to run your system with as little as 28 MB of available ram? You are likey running out of memory, so either add more ram (this is highly recommended) or use a ligthweight desktop/ window manager with programs that are not as resource and memory hungry as iceweasel is. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jq5kdt$l92$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:27 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Recently I've been having a problem with my web browser: it gets slow, the mouse and the keyboard don't respond any more and I have to unplug the machine. Can anybody suggest how I can detect why this happen and provide a remedy? Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: 1/ Have you experienced the problem when running another applications (different than the browser) No, never: it only happens with the web browser. Okay. [...] 6/ How much RAM has your system and what says free -m when you launch the browser? Before launching the browser, the command `free -m' gives something like: $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 216154 62 0 6 61 -/+ buffers/cache: 85130 Swap:0 0 0 Wow... 216 MB of ram and you have _no swap_? That's suicide... When I parted the hard disk, I remeber leaving about 1 gigabite swap, and in fact here it is from `parted': # parted GNU Parted 1.8.8 Using /dev/sda Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands. (parted) p Model: ATA SAMSUNG MP0402H (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 40.1GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos Number Start End SizeType File system Flags 1 32.3kB 8390MB 8390MB primary fat32boot 2 8390MB 40.1GB 31.7GB extended lba 5 8390MB 9434MB 1045MB logical linux-swap 6 9434MB 21.0GB 11.5GB logical ext3 7 21.0GB 26.2GB 5239MB logical ext3 8 26.2GB 40.1GB 13.8GB logical ext3 I don't know why it does not figure in `free -m', but it is there. And 130 MB of available ram. It looks too low. , whereas, when `mozilla' is running, it gives: $ free -m total used free sharedbufferscached Mem: 216208 8 0 0 20 -/+ buffers/cache:187 28 Swap:0 0 0 What the...!!! :-O How can you pretend to run your system with as little as 28 MB of available ram? You are likey running out of memory, so either add more ram (this is highly recommended) or use a ligthweight desktop/ window manager with programs that are not as resource and memory hungry as iceweasel is. Do you think it is possible to work it out using a lighter desktop manager? But why didn't the problem occur before in the past? It has become heavy only recently, and the machine is always the same. Thanks for your help Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87obp5lg3g@gmail.com
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Wed, 30 May 2012 17:43:31 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: (...) Wow... 216 MB of ram and you have _no swap_? That's suicide... When I parted the hard disk, I remeber leaving about 1 gigabite swap, and in fact here it is from `parted': # parted (...) Number Start End SizeType File system Flags 1 32.3kB 8390MB 8390MB primary fat32boot 2 8390MB 40.1GB 31.7GB extended lba 5 8390MB 9434MB 1045MB logical linux-swap 6 9434MB 21.0GB 11.5GB logical ext3 7 21.0GB 26.2GB 5239MB logical ext3 8 26.2GB 40.1GB 13.8GB logical ext3 I don't know why it does not figure in `free -m', but it is there. The /swap partition has to be mounted. Put here the content of your /etc/ fstab. What the...!!! :-O How can you pretend to run your system with as little as 28 MB of available ram? You are likey running out of memory, so either add more ram (this is highly recommended) or use a ligthweight desktop/ window manager with programs that are not as resource and memory hungry as iceweasel is. Do you think it is possible to work it out using a lighter desktop manager? Sure, many people does it. Or even consider using another linux distribution prepared to run with these kind of low resource systems. But why didn't the problem occur before in the past? It has become heavy only recently, and the machine is always the same. I can't tell but your system can't be happy with 216 MB of ram and running applications such as Iceweasel. Sooner or later it has to break. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jq5mrv$l92$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:27 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Recently I've been having a problem with my web browser: it gets slow, the mouse and the keyboard don't respond any more and I have to unplug the machine. Can anybody suggest how I can detect why this happen and provide a remedy? Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: The /swap partition has to be mounted. Put here the content of your /etc/ fstab. Effectively, swap is not in fstab: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass proc/proc procdefaults0 0 # /dev/hda8 / ext3errors=remount-ro 0 1 UUID=fac20d2a-a9b7-4a63-973e-ff78f9bf0bc2 / ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1 # /dev/hda5 noneswapsw 0 0 UUID=bdc14217-c199-40fc-ae6b-47657e54cee3 noneswapsw 0 0 # /dev/hdc/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/cdrw/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 UUID=44F1-9096 /mnt/pendrive1 vfatrw,user,noauto 0 0 UUID=44F1-7D0C /mnt/pendrive2 vfatrw,user,noauto 0 0 UUID=48A3-3446 /mnt/pendrive-carolina vfatrw,user,noauto 0 0 #/dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ext3errors=remount-ro 0 1 image.iso /mnt/isoiso9660 ro,loop=/dev/loop0,user,noauto 0 0 Maybe the main cause of the problem is the swap partition not mounted? What the...!!! :-O How can you pretend to run your system with as little as 28 MB of available ram? You are likey running out of memory, so either add more ram (this is highly recommended) or use a ligthweight desktop/ window manager with programs that are not as resource and memory hungry as iceweasel is. Do you think it is possible to work it out using a lighter desktop manager? Sure, many people does it. Or even consider using another linux distribution prepared to run with these kind of low resource systems. But why didn't the problem occur before in the past? It has become heavy only recently, and the machine is always the same. I can't tell but your system can't be happy with 216 MB of ram and running applications such as Iceweasel. Sooner or later it has to break. Thanks again Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87bol534cd@gmail.com
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
Rodolfo Medina rodolfo.med...@gmail.com writes: Recently I've been having a problem with my web browser: it gets slow, the mouse and the keyboard don't respond any more and I have to unplug the machine. Can anybody suggest how I can detect why this happen and provide a remedy? Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: The /swap partition has to be mounted. Put here the content of your /etc/ fstab. Effectively, swap is not in fstab: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass proc/proc procdefaults0 0 # /dev/hda8 / ext3errors=remount-ro 0 1 UUID=fac20d2a-a9b7-4a63-973e-ff78f9bf0bc2 / ext3 errors=remount-ro 0 1 # /dev/hda5 noneswapsw 0 0 UUID=bdc14217-c199-40fc-ae6b-47657e54cee3 noneswapsw 0 0 # /dev/hdc/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/cdrw/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 UUID=44F1-9096 /mnt/pendrive1 vfatrw,user,noauto 0 0 UUID=44F1-7D0C /mnt/pendrive2 vfatrw,user,noauto 0 0 UUID=48A3-3446 /mnt/pendrive-carolina vfatrw,user,noauto 0 0 #/dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ext3errors=remount-ro 0 1 image.iso /mnt/isoiso9660 ro,loop=/dev/loop0,user,noauto 0 0 Maybe the main cause of the problem is the swap partition not mounted? What the...!!! :-O How can you pretend to run your system with as little as 28 MB of available ram? You are likey running out of memory, so either add more ram (this is highly recommended) or use a ligthweight desktop/ window manager with programs that are not as resource and memory hungry as iceweasel is. Do you think it is possible to work it out using a lighter desktop manager? Sure, many people does it. Or even consider using another linux distribution prepared to run with these kind of low resource systems. But why didn't the problem occur before in the past? It has become heavy only recently, and the machine is always the same. I can't tell but your system can't be happy with 216 MB of ram and running applications such as Iceweasel. Sooner or later it has to break. Is it possible that ram has decreased? Now I noticed that the problem also occurs running `scanimage'. I don't remember it ever occurred in the past! Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87txyx1oog@gmail.com
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:34:42 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: The /swap partition has to be mounted. Put here the content of your /etc/ fstab. Effectively, swap is not in fstab: (...) # /dev/hda5 none swapsw 0 0 UUID=bdc14217-c199-40fc-ae6b-47657e54cee3 none swapsw 0 0 Well, there are two partitions there, the first is commented out (thus not used) and the second seems to be enabled. Check if that UUID corresponds to the swap partition (ls -la /dev/disk/by-uuid). If so, it has to be enabled at booting. If not, you can still manually enable by issuing swapon -a and then review the output for any error or if success, run free -m again. Maybe the main cause of the problem is the swap partition not mounted? Having swap can help but in your case, with as little as 216 MB of RAM I don't know if that would be enough. Better is that you try and see how it goes. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jq5uu5$l92$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:58:23 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Rodolfo Medina rodolfo.med...@gmail.com writes: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: (...) But why didn't the problem occur before in the past? It has become heavy only recently, and the machine is always the same. I can't tell but your system can't be happy with 216 MB of ram and running applications such as Iceweasel. Sooner or later it has to break. Is it possible that ram has decreased? Now I noticed that the problem also occurs running `scanimage'. I don't remember it ever occurred in the past! RAM is always a scarce resource but it cannot physically dissapear ;-) Anyway, reconsider your current running desktop and aplications; with less than 512 MB of RAM your system will suffer from constant hicups now and then if you try to use GNOME or KDE and the so called big browsers (Firefox/Opera/Chrome...). Just for you to get the idea, in my system (64-bits with 8 GiB of RAM), Firefox takes 99 MiB of real memory (now 101 MiB)... go figure. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jq5v99$l92$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Sun, 27 May 2012 14:52:43 -0700, Rodolfo Medina wrote: On May 27, 9:30 pm, Rodolfo Medina rodolfo.med...@gmail.com wrote: (...) Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do but unplugging it off. But the worse is, that also Epiphany has the same problem: so, since another PC of mine (a faster one) does not have it at all, it must be due to short memory. Really nothing I can do? ...Although, Epiphany seems to go a little better. Rodolfo Rodolfo, I'm still unsure about the origin of the problem. We are pointing to the web browser as the culprit for the system freeze but given that is not just Icewasel exposing the same issue, we can also consider another sources. 1/ Have you experienced the problem when running another applications (different than the browser) 2/ Can you still login to the system when it freezes, I mean, from ssh? 3/ Have you updated yet your Iceweasel? :-) 4/ Is there something at the logs? 5/ What VGA driver are you using and what's your VGA card? 6/ How much RAM has your system and what says free -m when you launch the browser? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jpvv2i$rhl$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:27 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Recently I've been having a problem with my web browser: it gets slow, the mouse and the keyboard don't respond any more and I have to unplug the machine. Can anybody suggest how I can detect why this happen and provide a remedy? Err... would be of much help if you say what browser is and what Debian release :-). Also, does it happen with a different browser? It is Mozilla, Debian Lenny. I haven't tried with a different browser, I don't know any other. The problem is serious, so please help if you can! Thanks - rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87k3zx7cry.fsf...@gmail.com
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
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Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
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Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Sun, 27 May 2012 17:29:53 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:27 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Recently I've been having a problem with my web browser: it gets slow, the mouse and the keyboard don't respond any more and I have to unplug the machine. Can anybody suggest how I can detect why this happen and provide a remedy? Err... would be of much help if you say what browser is and what Debian release :-). Also, does it happen with a different browser? It is Mozilla, Debian Lenny. I haven't tried with a different browser, I don't know any other. The problem is serious, so please help if you can! Thanks - rodolfo Which Mozilla version? Firefox 12, Iceweasel 3.0.x...? If it's the latter, update it ASAP: the browser is probably crashing because of some javascript code or the flash player plugin. In the meantime, you can try with Epiphany (if running GNOME) or Konqueror (for KDE). Both are installed by default when a DE is selected. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jptj57$tbr$9...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Sun, 2012-05-27 at 16:01 +, Camaleón wrote: In the meantime, you can try with Epiphany (if running GNOME) or Konqueror (for KDE) or http://wiki.debian.org/Opera if you don't wish to install GNOME or KDE related packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1338137375.2298.70.camel@precise
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Sunday 27 May 2012 18:29:53 Rodolfo Medina wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:27 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Recently I've been having a problem with my web browser: it gets slow, the mouse and the keyboard don't respond any more and I have to unplug the machine. Can anybody suggest how I can detect why this happen and provide a remedy? Err... would be of much help if you say what browser is and what Debian release :-). Also, does it happen with a different browser? It is Mozilla, Debian Lenny. I haven't tried with a different browser, I don't know any other. There are many!! What DE/WM are you using? I have found that Iceweasel is particularly prone to gunking my system up. It eats up memory, and if you haven't got a lot, as I haven't by modern standards, that equals problems. Though I don't believe that the only way out is to unplug the machine. What else have you tried? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201205271844.04488.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Sun, 27 May 2012 17:29:53 + Rodolfo Medina rodolfo.med...@gmail.com wrote: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:27 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: snip Err... would be of much help if you say what browser is and what Debian release :-). Also, does it happen with a different browser? It is Mozilla, Debian Lenny. I haven't tried with a different browser, I don't know any other. The problem is serious, so please help if you can! Thanks - rodolfo If is supports a restart add-on, install it and try restarting before it gets to slow. -- Regards, Freeman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120527131108.2b3e96a7@Deneb.office
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:27 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Recently I've been having a problem with my web browser: it gets slow, the mouse and the keyboard don't respond any more and I have to unplug the machine. Can anybody suggest how I can detect why this happen and provide a remedy? Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Err... would be of much help if you say what browser is and what Debian release :-). Also, does it happen with a different browser? On Sun, 27 May 2012 17:29:53 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: It is Mozilla, Debian Lenny. I haven't tried with a different browser, I don't know any other. The problem is serious, so please help if you can! Thanks - rodolfo Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Which Mozilla version? Firefox 12, Iceweasel 3.0.x...? If it's the latter, update it ASAP: the browser is probably crashing because of some javascript code or the flash player plugin. In the meantime, you can try with Epiphany (if running GNOME) or Konqueror (for KDE). Both are installed by default when a DE is selected. Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com writes: I have found that Iceweasel is particularly prone to gunking my system up. It eats up memory, and if you haven't got a lot, as I haven't by modern standards, that equals problems. Though I don't believe that the only way out is to unplug the machine. What else have you tried? Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do but unplugging it off. But the worse is, that also Epiphany has the same problem: so, since another PC of mine (a faster one) does not have it at all, it must be due to short memory. Really nothing I can do? Thanks to all that helped Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8762bhryx0@gmail.com
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On May 27, 9:30 pm, Rodolfo Medina rodolfo.med...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:27 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Recently I've been having a problem with my web browser: it gets slow, the mouse and the keyboard don't respond any more and I have to unplug the machine. Can anybody suggest how I can detect why this happen and provide a remedy? Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Err... would be of much help if you say what browser is and what Debian release :-). Also, does it happen with a different browser? On Sun, 27 May 2012 17:29:53 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: It is Mozilla, Debian Lenny. I haven't tried with a different browser, I don't know any other. The problem is serious, so please help if you can! Thanks - rodolfo Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Which Mozilla version? Firefox 12, Iceweasel 3.0.x...? If it's the latter, update it ASAP: the browser is probably crashing because of some javascript code or the flash player plugin. In the meantime, you can try with Epiphany (if running GNOME) or Konqueror (for KDE). Both are installed by default when a DE is selected. Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com writes: I have found that Iceweasel is particularly prone to gunking my system up. It eats up memory, and if you haven't got a lot, as I haven't by modern standards, that equals problems. Though I don't believe that the only way out is to unplug the machine. What else have you tried? Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do but unplugging it off. But the worse is, that also Epiphany has the same problem: so, since another PC of mine (a faster one) does not have it at all, it must be due to short memory. Really nothing I can do? ...Although, Epiphany seems to be a little better. Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e320a525-5b06-41ed-a1b5-368186fa5...@cu1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On May 27, 9:30 pm, Rodolfo Medina rodolfo.med...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:27 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Recently I've been having a problem with my web browser: it gets slow, the mouse and the keyboard don't respond any more and I have to unplug the machine. Can anybody suggest how I can detect why this happen and provide a remedy? Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Err... would be of much help if you say what browser is and what Debian release :-). Also, does it happen with a different browser? On Sun, 27 May 2012 17:29:53 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: It is Mozilla, Debian Lenny. I haven't tried with a different browser, I don't know any other. The problem is serious, so please help if you can! Thanks - rodolfo Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes: Which Mozilla version? Firefox 12, Iceweasel 3.0.x...? If it's the latter, update it ASAP: the browser is probably crashing because of some javascript code or the flash player plugin. In the meantime, you can try with Epiphany (if running GNOME) or Konqueror (for KDE). Both are installed by default when a DE is selected. Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com writes: I have found that Iceweasel is particularly prone to gunking my system up. It eats up memory, and if you haven't got a lot, as I haven't by modern standards, that equals problems. Though I don't believe that the only way out is to unplug the machine. What else have you tried? Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do but unplugging it off. But the worse is, that also Epiphany has the same problem: so, since another PC of mine (a faster one) does not have it at all, it must be due to short memory. Really nothing I can do? ...Although, Epiphany seems to go a little better. Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/d563515e-2038-4c1b-8d86-8b0c16bac...@5g2000vbf.googlegroups.com
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Sun, 2012-05-27 at 23:23 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
On Sun, 27 May 2012 10:28:27 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
Recently I've been having a problem with my web browser: it gets slow,
the mouse and the keyboard don't respond any more and I have to unplug
the machine. Can anybody suggest how I can detect why this happen and
provide a remedy?
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:
Err... would be of much help if you say what browser is and what Debian
release :-). Also, does it happen with a different browser?
On Sun, 27 May 2012 17:29:53 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
It is Mozilla, Debian Lenny. I haven't tried with a different browser,
I don't know any other. The problem is serious, so please help if you
can! Thanks - rodolfo
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:
Which Mozilla version? Firefox 12, Iceweasel 3.0.x...? If it's the
latter, update it ASAP: the browser is probably crashing because of some
javascript code or the flash player plugin.
In the meantime, you can try with Epiphany (if running GNOME) or
Konqueror (for KDE). Both are installed by default when a DE is selected.
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com writes:
I have found that Iceweasel is particularly prone to gunking my system up.
It eats up memory, and if you haven't got a lot, as I haven't by modern
standards, that equals problems.
Though I don't believe that the only way out is to unplug the machine. What
else have you tried?
Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do but unplugging it off. But the worse
is, that also Epiphany has the same problem: so, since another PC of mine (a
faster one) does not have it at all, it must be due to short memory. Really
nothing I can do?
Thanks to all that helped
Rodolfo
Just a suggestion you may have already done it:
1. Set the browser {any of them} to clear the history all cached info
every time you close it.
2. Set the browsers cache memory to at least 250Mbs more if you can
spare.
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