Re: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately, upgrading to potato is mostly all or nothing. Lots of changes have occured. This is absolutely not true. I've been upgrading incrementally, taking very small steps, for what seems like forever (due mostly to my slow and expensive net connection)... There are a few `often-needed' packages like glibc 2.1, but upgrading that was easy and uneventful. Except for the `menu updating consumes all memory' problem of a while back, I've never really had any problems doing things this way. -Miles -- Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice weasels come. --Nietzsche
RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
*- On 10 Nov, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote about RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade? On 10-Nov-99 David J. Kanter wrote: I'm in the process of going from Slink to Potato, but I've got a modem. I'm not going to download all the updated packages, but what should I get to get a relatively solid Potato build? Unfortunately, upgrading to potato is mostly all or nothing. Lots of changes have occured. I just did this last weekend. You can use the -d option to apt-get so that it will not start installing until you are done grabbing all the necessary files. Yes it is slow but the fact that Debian can upgrade in place over a modem is reason enough to do it! -- Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
Re: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
On Tue, Nov 09, 1999 at 11:29:54PM -0600, David J. Kanter wrote: I'm in the process of going from Slink to Potato, but I've got a modem. I'm not going to download all the updated packages, but what should I get to get a relatively solid Potato build? Download all of the base packages for sure, and consider downloading all of the standard packages, for a start. Art
RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Brian Servis wrote: *- On 10 Nov, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote about RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade? On 10-Nov-99 David J. Kanter wrote: I'm in the process of going from Slink to Potato, but I've got a modem. I'm not going to download all the updated packages, but what should I get to get a relatively solid Potato build? Unfortunately, upgrading to potato is mostly all or nothing. Lots of changes have occured. I just did this last weekend. You can use the -d option to apt-get so that it will not start installing until you are done grabbing all the necessary files. Yes it is slow but the fact that Debian can upgrade in place over a modem is reason enough to do it! I tried to do this last weekend also. I used the apt method of dselect over a V.90 modem and a day and half later I had potato mostly installed. I agree that the multiple ways of upgrading/maintaining a Debian distribution are really cool -- I've been using a modem at home since 1.2. I ran into some dependency problems with the 'netstd' and 'rdist' packages. netstd depends upon the rdist package, which seems not to exist. The comment on netstd indicates it is a legacy package that should be removed, but I couldn't do that as there are other packages (e.g. diald -- that I depend on) that depend upon netstd. I tried every permutation that I could think of to get past configuring netstd (without rdist) but I couldn't figure out a way to do it. I realize potato is unstable -- I'm not complaining here at all. Any hints as to how to get past this problem? Thanks...
RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
*- On 11 Nov, Stephen A. Witt wrote about RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade? On Wed, 10 Nov 1999, Brian Servis wrote: *- On 10 Nov, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote about RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade? On 10-Nov-99 David J. Kanter wrote: I'm in the process of going from Slink to Potato, but I've got a modem. I'm not going to download all the updated packages, but what should I get to get a relatively solid Potato build? Unfortunately, upgrading to potato is mostly all or nothing. Lots of changes have occured. I just did this last weekend. You can use the -d option to apt-get so that it will not start installing until you are done grabbing all the necessary files. Yes it is slow but the fact that Debian can upgrade in place over a modem is reason enough to do it! I tried to do this last weekend also. I used the apt method of dselect over a V.90 modem and a day and half later I had potato mostly installed. I agree that the multiple ways of upgrading/maintaining a Debian distribution are really cool -- I've been using a modem at home since 1.2. 0.93r6 here, =). Back then it was 14.4 modems. But the distribution was *a lot smaller* too. I ran into some dependency problems with the 'netstd' and 'rdist' packages. netstd depends upon the rdist package, which seems not to exist. The comment on netstd indicates it is a legacy package that should be removed, but I couldn't do that as there are other packages (e.g. diald -- that I depend on) that depend upon netstd. I tried every permutation that I could think of to get past configuring netstd (without rdist) but I couldn't figure out a way to do it. I realize potato is unstable -- I'm not complaining here at all. Any hints as to how to get past this problem? Unfortunately, you have to wait for the diald maintainer or some other maintainer to fix the dependency issue, which has a bug filed(#49324) against it. The problem is that netstd then sucks in other packages that you probably don't want. Just keep track of them and remove them when the depenency issue has been fixed. -- Brian Servis -- Mechanical Engineering | Never criticize anybody until you Purdue University | have walked a mile in their shoes, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | because by that time you will be a http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis | mile away and have their shoes.
What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
I'm in the process of going from Slink to Potato, but I've got a modem. I'm not going to download all the updated packages, but what should I get to get a relatively solid Potato build? Thanks. -- David J. Kanter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Humans have an innate tendency to attribute significance to anomalies and coincidences. -- John Allen Paulos, mathematics professor at Temple University
Re: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, David J. Kanter wrote: djkant I'm in the process of going from Slink to Potato, but I've got a modem. I'm djkant not going to download all the updated packages, but what should I get to get djkant a relatively solid Potato build? Wait till its final, and get a CD ;) nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- Vice President Network Operations http://www.firetrail.com/ Firetrail Internet Services Limited http://www.aphroland.org/ Everett, WA 425-348-7336http://www.linuxpowered.net/ Powered By:http://comedy.aphroland.org/ Debian 2.1 Linux 2.0.36 SMPhttp://yahoo.aphroland.org/ -[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]-- 8:29am up 82 days, 19:59, 1 user, load average: 1.56, 1.51, 1.57
RE: What do I REALLY need for Potato upgrade?
On 10-Nov-99 David J. Kanter wrote: I'm in the process of going from Slink to Potato, but I've got a modem. I'm not going to download all the updated packages, but what should I get to get a relatively solid Potato build? Unfortunately, upgrading to potato is mostly all or nothing. Lots of changes have occured.
