Where to from here guys ... help next steps for newbie sprog, WINZ refugee

1999-08-29 Thread John D Smith 




Hi 
all,
I 
recently traded an older s Pentium machine, I have loaded and configured it as 
aWeb Server via the profile 
choiceduring installation, So far so good. I have one or two errors, like Apache 
not firing up. and lynx cant find my domain, my next comment may have been 
fielded here 
before.(Please forgive my dry sense 
of humour)!!
So where are 
all the GUI bits to show me what is happening, this command line stuff is 
getting a bit tedious, when can I get computing guys, what button's do I push 
now, I am used to instant GUI fulfilment,you know the kind, GUI help that has an index which 
allows you to type a subject, and it Auto finds the related help file, 

I can't stand non of this ooppps I got that 
wrong, it will never work until I enter 500 Command line config 
statements.. or simpler still go back to the 
start and reload the lot again.

OK OK, before you flame me to bits, I accept that all 
things new take a stiff learning curve, and I guess I went through a similar 
stage with the DOS, however, the above comments might get a few of you to 
respond, with just what do I do next, cause I'm dying to leave this thing 
running here as a caching, proxy web, server connection, and plug it in the back 
of a mixed Netware, NT network,!!. Well that's the plan, but as you can see if I 
cannot master the command line stuff it is unlikely to happen 
:-)

Ka Kite Anau

jds - 
NZ

Re: Where to from here guys ... help next steps for newbie sprog, WINZ refugee

1999-08-29 Thread Eric G . Miller 
  Well, there's no getting around learning the command line stuff.  In
many cases, the command line stuff is quicker and easier than any GUI.

  As far as the indexed help - that's a work in progress with dwww.
However, you can find much info by using the 'man' command (e.g. man
apache, man X).  There is also the apropos command if you don't know
exactly the name of the manual page you're looking for.  Additionnally,
many docs are available through info.

  It sounds like you don't have your X windowing system set-up(???).
Maybe you want to start there? Try XF86Setup, or xf86config commands.

  You'll be more likely to get the help you need if you limit you posts
to a single problem, and give more specifics about the problem (i.e. how
you configured [whatever]).
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Re: Where to from here guys ... help next steps for newbie sprog, WINZ refugee

1999-08-29 Thread John Carline 
John D Smith wrote:

 Hi all,I recently traded an older s Pentium machine, I have
 loaded and configured it as a Web Server via the profile
 choice during installation, So far so good. I have one or
 two errors, like Apache not firing up. and lynx cant find my
 domain, my next comment may have been fielded here
 before.(Please forgive my dry sense of humour)!!So where are
 all the GUI bits to show me what is happening, this command
 line stuff is getting a bit tedious, when can I get
 computing guys, what button's do I push now, I am used to
 instant GUI fulfilment, you know the kind, GUI help that has
 an index which allows you to type a subject, and it Auto
 finds the related help file, I can't stand non of this
 ooppps I got that wrong, it will never work until I enter
 500 Command line config statements.. or simpler still go
 back to the start and reload the lot again.OK OK, before you
 flame me to bits, I accept that all things new take a stiff
 learning curve, and I guess I went through a similar stage
 with the DOS, however, the above comments might get a few of
 you to respond, with just what do I do next, cause I'm dying
 to leave this thing running here as a caching, proxy web,
 server connection, and plug it in the back of a mixed
 Netware, NT network,!!. Well that's the plan, but as you can
 see if I cannot master the command line stuff it is unlikely
 to happen :-)Ka Kite Anau jds - NZ

Ok! If you really want to dump those windoze bits and have a
configurable system :-), I'll offer the following advice:

1. Send all email to this list as plain text with lines apx 65
characters long. Those of us using something like netscape can
read mime fine, but some of the real experts use mail
systems that can't and they're the folks that will be the most
help with your networking problems.

2. You sound like Xwindow isn't running yet. If it isn't, run
XF86Setup and set it up.

3. Try the package tkdesk. It's a good GUI file
browser/editor. Much more powerful than windoze explorer, and
you can click away to your hearts content.;)

4. Learn the command line stuff. It makes life a lot easier.
;-) Then you can create scripts that run complicated processes
tailored just for your system by clicking either a menu item
or an icon. (kinda like powerful batch files) If you haven't
already used it try the command  'man  foofoo' and looking for
a file use 'locate foofoo or if it's executable 'whereis
foofoo'.

5. As you bump into roadblocks, ask specific questions of this
list. There's almost always someone willing to help.

Welcome to the wonderful world of Debian

John

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