Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
I do have a question. What is a good POP server to use with maildir mailboxes? I have few users who want to use POP instead of imap. Any suggestions? there are only a couple of options. qmail's popper (no a debian package i believe) or solid-pop3. cyrus has a pop/imap server but i don't believe it's mail store format is exactly the same as maildir, similar but differnt. i've used solid-pop3d and it seems to work okay, but i don't have any experience using it on production servers. adam.
Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On 20-Sep-2000 Adam Shand wrote: I do have a question. What is a good POP server to use with maildir mailboxes? I have few users who want to use POP instead of imap. Any suggestions? there are only a couple of options. qmail's popper (no a debian package i believe) or solid-pop3. If qmail's popper is the same as qpopper, there is a Debian package. -- Andrew
Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
Pollywog wrote: On 20-Sep-2000 Adam Shand wrote: I do have a question. What is a good POP server to use with maildir mailboxes? I have few users who want to use POP instead of imap. Any suggestions? there are only a couple of options. qmail's popper (no a debian package i believe) or solid-pop3. If qmail's popper is the same as qpopper, there is a Debian package. qpopper is from qualcomm/eudora - http://www.eudora.com nate -- ::: ICQ: 75132336 http://www.aphroland.org/ http://www.linuxpowered.net/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
Hi Bob!
There is a name clash with the X-Windows client, but, following this link
reveals that XMail is also a server!
Cheers,
Jason.
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Try XMail : http://www.maticad.it/davide/xmail.asp
XMail is a *client*. I need a POP *server* which handles maildir.
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Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Jason Quigley wrote: Hi Bob! There is a name clash with the X-Windows client, but, following this link reveals that XMail is also a server! XMail is only a server :-) - Davide
Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
I feel I also have to throw in my opinion. First of all, I _highly_ recommend you use qmail and use maildirs. I also highly recommend using courier-imap. This will let your users gracefully deal with folders and the like. Brendan J Simon wrote: I need to install some IMAP and POP3 servers so users can read mail via Netscape/Outlook on other machines. I have exim as my mail server. I'm running Debian Potato on a PowerMac G4. The choice (according to apt-get -s install imap-server) of available imap servers is: imap 4.7c-1 courier-imap 0.31-1 The choice (according to apt-get -s install pop3-server) of available pop3 servers is: cucipop 1.31-13 qpopper 2.53-5 ipopd 4.7c-1 Does anyone have any preferences, suggestions or comments regarding these packages. I thought I would install imap and ipopd. Are these ok or are there better packages ? qpopper sounds interesting. Thanks for any advice, Brendan Simon. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 09:12:18PM +0200, Davide Libenzi wrote:
Read well :-)
XMail is what You're finding for.
ahhh... Right you are. Sorry. I was confusing it with XFMail, which is a
mail client.
I don't need an entire mail server. I already have exim and courier imap
set up. All I need is a standalone POP server which can handle maildir.
There doesn't seem to be an easy way to make XMail's POP server standalone.
Or is there? Courier has a POP server, but it isn't standalone either. :-(
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Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:01:07PM +, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
Yes, courier-pop3d .. unfortunately it's not bundled with courier-imap,
Yes, it would be nice if the author bundled imap and pop3d together. Wonder
if the Debian courier-imap maintainer would be willing to do it.
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Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Damon Muller wrote:
Try the pop3d server which is part of the qmail package. It's the only
My apologies for not making myself clear enough. I'm running exim and
really would rather not switch to qmail.
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Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Bob Billson wrote: On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 09:12:18PM +0200, Davide Libenzi wrote: Read well :-) XMail is what You're finding for. ahhh... Right you are. Sorry. I was confusing it with XFMail, which is a mail client. I don't need an entire mail server. I already have exim and courier imap set up. All I need is a standalone POP server which can handle maildir. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to make XMail's POP server standalone. Or is there? Courier has a POP server, but it isn't standalone either. :-( The better use of XMail is as complete mail server not as POP3 standalone. I've used pop3d of qmail and qpopper and both works fine. - Davide
Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 12:16:06PM -0400, Bob Billson wrote: I do have a question. What is a good POP server to use with maildir mailboxes? I have few users who want to use POP instead of imap. Any suggestions? Check out qmail's website at http://www.qmail.org/ There is a default pop server written by the author of qmail. It's very basic. Note that the author of qmail, DJB, follows the KISS principle to the letter. pop3 server only returns the mail. He has a separate program to evaluate the user and check the password (meaning you can replace his password checking system with something that doesn't use the /etc/passwd file, and also do apop), and STILL use his pop3 server. -- John__ email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quis custodiet ipsos custodes icq: thales @ 17755648 # I'm subscribed to this list, no need to cc: ## pgpotxIlIUt8S.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Daniel == Daniel Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel Well, cucipop has had a couple reliability issues for me Daniel lately (it has a tendency to deadlock on its status Daniel database), but is otherwise good. courier-imap is supposed Daniel to be very nice, although I've never used it myself. If you use Maildir, I would recommend courier-imap. However, it doesn't support mbox format... -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 11:45:41AM +1100, Peter Muirhead wrote: I have been using courier-imap 0.31-1 on potato and you are right, it is peachy. I have also been having reliability problems with cucipop too... just to keep on topic i have used qpopper and it works fairly well, though when a user downloads alot of mail at once its a CPU pig, 99% and brings the load avg up to around 2.0. one user has also had problems with losing mail but im 99% sure its Eudora for Win98's fault. (he had two clients on two machine both set to leave mail on server. all the sudden one of the clients never considered mail new, and to try and force the issue he turned off `leave on server' so eudora happily deleted all his `old' mail...) How is the almighty spud running on the G4? I have a friend who I am trying to convince giving it a try on his mac... i run potato on a blue G3 and it works great. if you do convince him have a look at my web page for some useful docs for install and bootstrap setup. -- Ethan Benson http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/ pgp8jFPTK1gV7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
I use Cyrus IMAP. It's a very high performer. Cheers, Jason. --On Wednesday, September 13, 2000 19:57 -0400 Daniel Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 10:04:10AM +1100, Brendan J Simon wrote: I need to install some IMAP and POP3 servers so users can read mail via Netscape/Outlook on other machines. I have exim as my mail server. I'm running Debian Potato on a PowerMac G4. The choice (according to apt-get -s install imap-server) of available imap servers is: imap 4.7c-1 courier-imap 0.31-1 The choice (according to apt-get -s install pop3-server) of available pop3 servers is: cucipop 1.31-13 qpopper 2.53-5 ipopd 4.7c-1 Does anyone have any preferences, suggestions or comments regarding these packages. I thought I would install imap and ipopd. Are these ok or are there better packages ? qpopper sounds interesting. Well, cucipop has had a couple reliability issues for me lately (it has a tendency to deadlock on its status database), but is otherwise good. courier-imap is supposed to be very nice, although I've never used it myself. Dan /\ /\ | Daniel Jacobowitz|__|SCS Class of 2002 | | Debian GNU/Linux Developer__Carnegie Mellon University | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \/ \/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
RE: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
-Original Message- From: Brendan J Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 1:04 AM To: debian-user; debian-powerpc Subject: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ? I need to install some IMAP and POP3 servers so users can read mail via Netscape/Outlook on other machines. I have exim as my mail server. I'm running Debian Potato on a PowerMac G4. The choice (according to apt-get -s install imap-server) of available imap servers is: imap 4.7c-1 Outlook 2k crashes when told to use this server. :( courier-imap 0.31-1 I haven't tried it much, really, because it doesn't support /var/spool/mail and I don't see why I should convert to Maildirs. The choice (according to apt-get -s install pop3-server) of available pop3 servers is: cucipop 1.31-13 qpopper 2.53-5 I use qpopper, which is quite install forget, but then, you might need something more elaborate. ipopd 4.7c-1 Does anyone have any preferences, suggestions or comments regarding these packages. I thought I would install imap and ipopd. Are these ok or are there better packages ? qpopper sounds interesting. Thanks for any advice, Brendan Simon. I've got to add a question of my own here: Is there an imap server that can store mails and directories in a directory and gets along with Outlook? (./configure --enable-endure-o2k) As I said, I tried (UW) imap, which needs a '/' added to a dir name if it should contain other dirs. Outlook doesn't know this, it seems, so any recursive copying will fail. Thanks Christian
RE: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
I've been using QPopper for many years now without any problems to speak of. Once installed, you can forget its even there since its very well behaved. Debian includes an older v2.53, so you may want to check ftp.qualcomm.com and download v3.0.2 and compile/install. On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Christian Pernegger wrote: -Original Message- From: Brendan J Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 1:04 AM To: debian-user; debian-powerpc Subject: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ? I need to install some IMAP and POP3 servers so users can read mail via Netscape/Outlook on other machines. I have exim as my mail server. I'm running Debian Potato on a PowerMac G4. The choice (according to apt-get -s install imap-server) of available imap servers is: imap 4.7c-1 Outlook 2k crashes when told to use this server. :( courier-imap 0.31-1 I haven't tried it much, really, because it doesn't support /var/spool/mail and I don't see why I should convert to Maildirs. The choice (according to apt-get -s install pop3-server) of available pop3 servers is: cucipop 1.31-13 qpopper 2.53-5 I use qpopper, which is quite install forget, but then, you might need something more elaborate. ipopd 4.7c-1 Does anyone have any preferences, suggestions or comments regarding these packages. I thought I would install imap and ipopd. Are these ok or are there better packages ? qpopper sounds interesting. Thanks for any advice, Brendan Simon. I've got to add a question of my own here: Is there an imap server that can store mails and directories in a directory and gets along with Outlook? (./configure --enable-endure-o2k) As I said, I tried (UW) imap, which needs a '/' added to a dir name if it should contain other dirs. Outlook doesn't know this, it seems, so any recursive copying will fail. Thanks Christian -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
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On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Alec Smith wrote: I've been using QPopper for many years now without any problems to speak of. Once installed, you can forget its even there since its very well behaved. Debian includes an older v2.53, so you may want to check ftp.qualcomm.com and download v3.0.2 and compile/install. Guys, if You need the features that gives the merge of : sendmail + qpopper + fetchmail give XMail a try : http://www.maticad.it/davide/xmail.asp - Davide
RE: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Christian Pernegger wrote: [...] Hello, I'm the Debian imap/ipopd maintainer. Outlook 2k crashes when told to use this server. :( At work, I use outlook 2000 with UW's imapd and it doesn't crash for me. Mind you I'm not doing anything complicated with it. I've got to add a question of my own here: Is there an imap server that can store mails and directories in a directory and gets along with Outlook? (./configure --enable-endure-o2k) As I said, I tried (UW) imap, which needs a '/' added to a dir name if it should contain other dirs. Outlook doesn't know this, it seems, so any recursive copying will fail. Can you file a bug report (preferably with a test case) so I can look into it? -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
-Original Message- From: Jaldhar H. Vyas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 3:43 PM To: Christian Pernegger Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; debian-user; debian-powerpc Subject: RE: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ? Hello, I'm the Debian imap/ipopd maintainer. Outlook 2k crashes when told to use this server. :( At work, I use outlook 2000 with UW's imapd and it doesn't crash for me. Mind you I'm not doing anything complicated with it. snip Can you file a bug report (preferably with a test case) so I can look into it? Thanks for replying. Here's the Test case regarding the crash. I suspect OL so I haven't filed a bug yet. But if you say it works... ??? Machine 1: WinNT4sp6a German + Outlook 2000 sr1 Int. English Machine 2: Win98SE German + Outlook 2000 sr1 German As soon as OL checks for new mail it crashes. Outlook Express is fine... As for the directory issue: what *should* I be able to move/copy between IMAP dirs? Is moving a whole folder somewhere else even supported by the protocol. Thanks Christian
RE: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
--On Thursday, September 14, 2000 11:50 +0200 Christian Pernegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: courier-imap 0.31-1 I haven't tried it much, really, because it doesn't support /var/spool/mail and I don't see why I should convert to Maildirs. Performance! Especially if you have very large mail folders. I use Cyrus and it handles seearching my mail archives very rapidly - less than a couple of minutes for 30k messages. Cheers, Jason.
Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
I've had very good luck with courier. Setting it up can be a little
tricky especially with getting authentication to play nice.
I do have a question. What is a good POP server to use with maildir
mailboxes? I have few users who want to use POP instead of imap. Any
suggestions?
bob
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Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 08:46:28PM +0200, Davide Libenzi wrote:
Try XMail : http://www.maticad.it/davide/xmail.asp
XMail is a *client*. I need a POP *server* which handles maildir.
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Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bob Billson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had very good luck with courier. Setting it up can be a little tricky especially with getting authentication to play nice. I do have a question. What is a good POP server to use with maildir mailboxes? I have few users who want to use POP instead of imap. Any suggestions? Yes, courier-pop3d .. unfortunately it's not bundled with courier-imap, you need to get the hole courier mail system, build it and install just the pop3 daemon stuff. I haven't tried this yet. I did mail the author with a request to include courier-pop3d with courier-imap in the future and he replied along the lines of 'maybe, but not right now' Mike. -- Deadlock, n.: Deceased rastaman.
Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
Quoth Bob Billson, I do have a question. What is a good POP server to use with maildir mailboxes? I have few users who want to use POP instead of imap. Any suggestions? Try the pop3d server which is part of the qmail package. It's the only pop3 server that I know of which works with maildir. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everyone dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead pgp8tTpSrjlXm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
Damon == Damon Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Damon Quoth Bob Billson, I do have a question. What is a good POP server to use with maildir mailboxes? I have few users who want to use POP instead of imap. Any suggestions? Damon Try the pop3d server which is part of the qmail Damon package. It's the only pop3 server that I know of which Damon works with maildir. heimdal-servers also comes with a POP server that supports Maildir format. -- Brian May [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Damon Muller wrote: Try the pop3d server which is part of the qmail package. It's the only pop3 server that I know of which works with maildir. ipop[23]d also supports maildir. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
I need to install some IMAP and POP3 servers so users can read mail via Netscape/Outlook on other machines. I have exim as my mail server. I'm running Debian Potato on a PowerMac G4. The choice (according to apt-get -s install imap-server) of available imap servers is: imap 4.7c-1 courier-imap 0.31-1 The choice (according to apt-get -s install pop3-server) of available pop3 servers is: cucipop 1.31-13 qpopper 2.53-5 ipopd 4.7c-1 Does anyone have any preferences, suggestions or comments regarding these packages. I thought I would install imap and ipopd. Are these ok or are there better packages ? qpopper sounds interesting. Thanks for any advice, Brendan Simon.
Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ?
On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 10:04:10AM +1100, Brendan J Simon wrote: I need to install some IMAP and POP3 servers so users can read mail via Netscape/Outlook on other machines. I have exim as my mail server. I'm running Debian Potato on a PowerMac G4. The choice (according to apt-get -s install imap-server) of available imap servers is: imap 4.7c-1 courier-imap 0.31-1 The choice (according to apt-get -s install pop3-server) of available pop3 servers is: cucipop 1.31-13 qpopper 2.53-5 ipopd 4.7c-1 Does anyone have any preferences, suggestions or comments regarding these packages. I thought I would install imap and ipopd. Are these ok or are there better packages ? qpopper sounds interesting. Well, cucipop has had a couple reliability issues for me lately (it has a tendency to deadlock on its status database), but is otherwise good. courier-imap is supposed to be very nice, although I've never used it myself. Dan /\ /\ | Daniel Jacobowitz|__|SCS Class of 2002 | | Debian GNU/Linux Developer__Carnegie Mellon University | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \/ \/
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I have been using courier-imap 0.31-1 on potato and you are right, it is peachy. I have also been having reliability problems with cucipop too... How is the almighty spud running on the G4? I have a friend who I am trying to convince giving it a try on his mac... -Original Message- From: Daniel Jacobowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brendan J Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org; debian-powerpc debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Date: Thursday, 14 September 2000 10:59 Subject: Re: Which IMAP and POP3 servers ? On Thu, Sep 14, 2000 at 10:04:10AM +1100, Brendan J Simon wrote: I need to install some IMAP and POP3 servers so users can read mail via Netscape/Outlook on other machines. I have exim as my mail server. I'm running Debian Potato on a PowerMac G4. The choice (according to apt-get -s install imap-server) of available imap servers is: imap 4.7c-1 courier-imap 0.31-1 The choice (according to apt-get -s install pop3-server) of available pop3 servers is: cucipop 1.31-13 qpopper 2.53-5 ipopd 4.7c-1 Does anyone have any preferences, suggestions or comments regarding these packages. I thought I would install imap and ipopd. Are these ok or are there better packages ? qpopper sounds interesting. Well, cucipop has had a couple reliability issues for me lately (it has a tendency to deadlock on its status database), but is otherwise good. courier-imap is supposed to be very nice, although I've never used it myself. Dan /\ /\ | Daniel Jacobowitz|__|SCS Class of 2002 | | Debian GNU/Linux Developer__Carnegie Mellon University | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | \/ \/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
