Re: about xfce and window managers

2012-11-28 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 27 Nov 2012, John L. Cunningham wrote: On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 04:09:07PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: Xmonad is good but for configuration you have to delve into Haskell, In my experience, it's not that bad. Mostly because someone has probably already done what you want it to do

Re: about xfce and window managers

2012-11-27 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 10:42:12AM -0500, John L. Cunningham wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 07:16:09PM +0200, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote: I am currently using debian sid with xfce 4.8 . I want to make tiling the windows like awesome or kinda like that . Have you thought about

Re: about xfce and window managers

2012-11-27 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 26 Nov 2012, John L. Cunningham wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 07:16:09PM +0200, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote: I am currently using debian sid with xfce 4.8 . I want to make tiling the windows like awesome or kinda like that . Have you thought about using Xmonad as the wm?

Re: about xfce and window managers

2012-11-27 Thread chris angel
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 04:09:07PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: On 26 Nov 2012, John L. Cunningham wrote: On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 07:16:09PM +0200, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote: I am currently using debian sid with xfce 4.8 . I want to make tiling the windows like awesome or kinda

Re: about xfce and window managers

2012-11-27 Thread John L. Cunningham
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 04:09:07PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: Xmonad is good but for configuration you have to delve into Haskell, In my experience, it's not that bad. Mostly because someone has probably already done what you want it to do AND blogged about it. So you just have to

Re: about xfce and window managers

2012-11-26 Thread John L. Cunningham
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 07:16:09PM +0200, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote: I am currently using debian sid with xfce 4.8 . I want to make tiling the windows like awesome or kinda like that . Have you thought about using Xmonad as the wm?

about xfce and window managers

2012-11-25 Thread Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras
I am currently using debian sid with xfce 4.8 . I want to make tiling the windows like awesome or kinda like that . Ok , when will xfce4.10 will be on sid or which repo about xfce 4.10 might I can use ? IMHO experimental xfce 4.10 is buggy . I can help to fix that I guess. When I tried to

Re: about xfce and window managers

2012-11-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-11-25 at 19:16 +0200, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras wrote: I am currently using debian sid with xfce 4.8 . I want to make tiling the windows like awesome or kinda like that . Ok , when will xfce4.10 will be on sid or which repo about xfce 4.10 might I can use ? IMHO experimental

Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

2012-04-30 Thread Indulekha
Dan Hitt dan.h...@gmail.com wrote: This is a sort of subquery to the question of how to change window managers. (And thanks again Johan, Camaleón, and Indulekha for your earlier help.) So the question is: supposing you compile a window manager yourself, so that it does not come from

Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

2012-04-30 Thread Dan Hitt
, Apr 30, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Indulekha indule...@theunworthy.com wrote: Dan Hitt dan.h...@gmail.com wrote: This is a sort of subquery to the question of how to change window managers.  (And thanks again Johan, Camaleón, and Indulekha for your earlier help.) So the question is: supposing you

Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

2012-04-29 Thread Dan Hitt
This is a sort of subquery to the question of how to change window managers. (And thanks again Johan, Camaleón, and Indulekha for your earlier help.) So the question is: supposing you compile a window manager yourself, so that it does not come from the packaging system. What is the standard

Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

2012-04-29 Thread Johan Grönqvist
2012-04-30 05:36, Dan Hitt skrev: This is a sort of subquery to the question of how to change window managers. So the question is: supposing you compile a window manager yourself, so that it does not come from the packaging system. What is the standard best way of setting this new window

Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

2012-04-25 Thread Camaleón
the wmaker alternative. (...) Mmm, juts a quick note. You can try with: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager Which will ask you about the preferred option. Then you can check the current setting with --display. You can also consider in selecting WM from the available window managers

Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

2012-04-25 Thread Dan Hitt
the preferred option. Then you can check the current setting with --display. You can also consider in selecting WM from the available window managers dropdown menu at the login screen. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

2012-04-25 Thread Rob Owens
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 02:10:03PM -0700, Dan Hitt wrote: Thanks Camaleón and Johan for your suggestions. For reference, here's what happened: Camaleón: i did try the update-alternatives path, including the --display option to check. It reports wmaker, but has no effect otherwise that i

Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

2012-04-25 Thread Wayne Topa
you about the preferred option. Then you can check the current setting with --display. You can also consider in selecting WM from the available window managers dropdown menu at the login screen. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

2012-04-25 Thread Indulekha
Dan Hitt dan.h...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks in advance for any other advice anybody may have. (Is anybody actually using WindowMaker on this list? Maybe my problem is i'm posting to the wrong list? :) But thanks everybody for your help because you certainly are very helpful!) I was using

Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

2012-04-25 Thread Dan Hitt
Thanks Rob, Wayne, and Indulekha for your help (and thanks again Johan and Camaleón for your earlier help). Rob, thanks for pointing out where the window manager selection was on the screen (in my case, at the bottom, and as you said, only visible after the user account is selected). That

Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

2012-04-25 Thread Indulekha
In linux.debian.user, you wrote: Indulekha --- if you would care to answer --- what is the software that wmaker does not interact well with? I had trouble with terminator (my preferred terminal emulator) and also with conky, which I use insted of a dock or system tray. Bear in mind, I

changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

2012-04-24 Thread Dan Hitt
I'm running debian 6.0.4 (squeeze). I'm attempting to change my window manager from the default metacity to wmaker (WindowMaker). I attempted the change by sudo update-alternatives --display x-window-manager and then choosing the wmaker alternative. When i run update-alternatives

Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

2012-04-24 Thread Johan Grönqvist
2012-04-25 06:36, Dan Hitt skrev: I'm running debian 6.0.4 (squeeze). I'm attempting to change my window manager from the default metacity to wmaker (WindowMaker). I attempted the change by sudo update-alternatives --display x-window-manager and then choosing the wmaker alternative. I

Re: Tiling Window Managers [était: des outils qui changent la vie]

2009-03-25 Thread Élie
steph elucubrated on 2009-03-25: Edi Stojicevic estojice...@debianworld.org: * Yves Rutschle debian.anti-s...@rutschle.net [2009-03-25 10:03:56 +0100] wrote : *ION*, un des seuls window managers. (qui est particulièrement adapté à l'usage de vim, mutt, latex et autres texteries). Regarde

Re: minimalist window managers [was Re: Preferred applications: IDE, text-editor, music player.]

2008-06-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started with wmii, played with some others, and then stumbled on xmonad and got hooked. to each their own. Just like vimperator... tried it but I'm apparently not a vim guy... emacs seems to suit me better, thus

Re: minimalist window managers [was Re: Preferred applications: IDE, text-editor, music player.]

2008-06-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 12:01:59AM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started with wmii, played with some others, and then stumbled on xmonad and got hooked. to each their own. Just like vimperator... tried it but

Re: minimalist window managers [was Re: Preferred applications: IDE, text-editor, music player.]

2008-06-19 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 05:16:47PM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote: A, On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: if you decide to investigate other minimalist WM's you might look at xmonad. It's all keyboard controlled, tiled with a variety of customizable tiling layouts. pretty

minimalist window managers [was Re: Preferred applications: IDE, text-editor, music player.]

2008-06-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:38:42PM -0500, Kevin Monceaux wrote: Nuno, On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Nuno Magalhães wrote: The thing is i have a few requirements: i want applications that are not desktop-dependant (i.e. Gnome or KDE) and do not rely upon Java. This rules out a lot of text editors.

Re: minimalist window managers [was Re: Preferred applications: IDE, text-editor, music player.]

2008-06-18 Thread Kevin Monceaux
A, On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: if you decide to investigate other minimalist WM's you might look at xmonad. It's all keyboard controlled, tiled with a variety of customizable tiling layouts. pretty fun(unctional). Actually, I was using xmonad before switching to DWM.

non-packaged window managers?

2007-06-12 Thread Zach
I wanted to try some window managers (and add ons) not yet packaged for debian testing. What is best way to handle it? And I want to update the Debian Menu so I can choose this custom wm from my other Debian-aware wms and I also wish to add the Debian Menu to my custom wm. And I want to add my

Re: non-packaged window managers?

2007-06-12 Thread Gabriel Parrondo
El mar, 12-06-2007 a las 19:11 -0400, Zach escribió: I wanted to try some window managers (and add ons) not yet packaged for debian testing. What is best way to handle it? And I want to update the Debian Menu so I can choose this custom wm from my other Debian-aware wms and I also wish to add

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-03 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 18:52:12 -0800 Seeker5528 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Currently I am mixing and matching stuff, starting what I want to run from a .xsession file in my home directory. My .xsession file looks like this: # Begin .xsession gnome-settings-daemon gnome-panel

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-03 Thread Clive Menzies
On (31/10/06 13:19), Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 03:40:48PM +, Clive Menzies wrote: Since getting into Debian I've progressed down the scale (of bloat) from KDE to Xfce to Enlightenment to Fluxbox. I'm very happy now but guess I may get bored and try something

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-03 Thread cothrige
* Clive Menzies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I went pretty much the same way, but then one day I thought fluxbox was kind of slow to draw menus etc... And I found openbox! It's fast, looks just like fluxbox, except that it doesn't have the extra fluff. :-) You may want to give it a try.

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-02 Thread Seeker5528
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 14:51:12 + B. Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is which wm to use, as Gnome install metacity by default and I don't have experience with anything else. There's a lot of information on Google Groups and in the Debian archives, however I have a more

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-01 Thread George Borisov
Ron Johnson wrote: Get off my lawn, you young whippersnappers! Oh, stop being such a grumpy old man. :-p *Window* manager != *display* manager. Yeah I know, but both have to be... SHINY!!! :-D Best regards, -- George Borisov DXSolutions Ltd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-01 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 31 Oct 2006, Douglas Tutty wrote: I use icewm. It does everything I want without the struggle of adding features to a less featurful wm and is low on resource usage. It must be fast because it doesn't get in the way on the 486. Doug. Another vote for icewm. I've tried numerous

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-01 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/01/06 03:18, George Borisov wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Get off my lawn, you young whippersnappers! Oh, stop being such a grumpy old man. :-p *Window* manager != *display* manager. Yeah I know, but both have to be... SHINY!!! :-D Bah

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-01 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/01/06 03:18, George Borisov wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Get off my lawn, you young whippersnappers! Oh, stop being such a grumpy old man. :-p *Window* manager != *display* manager. Yeah I know, but both have to be...

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-01 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
which I thought was down to the DE. Also for example icewm and fvwm seem to be both window managers and DE's? I use fvwm exclusively. PRO: very versatile. CON: 1. I am now wedded to .fvwm2rc 2. I have no idea of the total capability of fvwm. H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-01 Thread Mladen Adamovic
B. Hoffmann wrote: BTW, Xfce seems to manage windows currently but it's not terribly smooth, it's giving a sort of rolling effect when redrawing, that's why the quest for something better. Yes, I had the same feeling with both Xfce and icewm. That's the reason I stuck with gnome. It

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-01 Thread Micha Feigin
going with the default install with Gnome. Also for example icewm and fvwm seem to be both window managers and DE's? Since getting into Debian I've progressed down the scale (of bloat) from KDE to Xfce to Enlightenment to Fluxbox. I'm very happy now but guess I

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
Anthony Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31 Oct 2006, Douglas Tutty wrote: I use icewm. It does everything I want without the struggle of adding features to a less featurful wm and is low on resource usage. It must be fast because it doesn't get in the way on the 486. Doug.

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-01 Thread Marc Shapiro
this time as opposed to before always going with the default install with Gnome. Also for example icewm and fvwm seem to be both window managers and DE's? Since getting into Debian I've progressed down the scale (of bloat) from KDE to Xfce

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-01 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 11/1/06, Marc Shapiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Precisely! The last two that I actually used were kcalc and kate. They have been replaced by galculator and SciTE and I am quite happy about it. Nothing left to start up artsd and interfere with my sound, or to startup a million kdeinit

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-11-01 Thread Brad Sims
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 10:53 am, Andrei Popescu wrote: For someone like me who grew-up with Windows, icewm was a good choice. I didn't want all the bloat in KDE or Gnome and, after some tweaking, icewm has gotten pretty close to my (good or bad) habits from Windows. I use KDE or wmaker.

Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread B. Hoffmann
BTW, Xfce seems to manage windows currently but it's not terribly smooth, it's giving a sort of rolling effect when redrawing, that's why the quest for something better. Thanks. -- Kind Regards, B. Hoffmann -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe.

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread Clive Menzies
to have themes available for them which I thought was down to the DE. Also for example icewm and fvwm seem to be both window managers and DE's? Apologies for bringing this up again! Since getting into Debian I've progressed down the scale (of bloat) from KDE to Xfce to Enlightenment

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread George Borisov
B. Hoffmann wrote: I' ve been installing purely a base sytem this time as opposed to before always going with the default install with Gnome. Then proceeded to install xfce and synaptic and that's it so far. Don't want any unnecessary fluff this time. Not sure why you need Gnome in the

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/31/06 09:24, George Borisov wrote: B. Hoffmann wrote: [snip] You will also need a display manager (unless you like the whole startx thing). Grouchy Geek says, Since you can start X with startx, by definition, you do *not need* a display

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread Jochen Schulz
in one central place for all (DE-aware) applications. Also for example icewm and fvwm seem to be both window managers and DE's? While I am not completely sure about fvwm, as I have never used it, IceWM is definitely not a DE but a WM. It does have far more features than a WM strictly needs

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread Jason Dunsmore
On 10/31/06, Jeronimo Pellegrini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 03:40:48PM +, Clive Menzies wrote: Since getting into Debian I've progressed down the scale (of bloat) from KDE to Xfce to Enlightenment to Fluxbox. I'm very happy now but guess I may get bored and try

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 03:40:48PM +, Clive Menzies wrote: Since getting into Debian I've progressed down the scale (of bloat) from KDE to Xfce to Enlightenment to Fluxbox. I'm very happy now but guess I may get bored and try something else but fluxbox is lean mean but pretty functional.

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
Jeronimo Pellegrini escribe: I went pretty much the same way, but then one day I thought fluxbox was kind of slow to draw menus etc... And I found openbox! It's fast, looks just like fluxbox, except that it doesn't have the extra fluff. :-) You may want to give it a try. Count another vote

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 08:57:44AM -0800, Jason Dunsmore wrote: On 10/31/06, Jeronimo Pellegrini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 03:40:48PM +, Clive Menzies wrote: Since getting into Debian I've progressed down the scale (of bloat) from KDE to Xfce to Enlightenment to

Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread B. Hoffmann
was down to the DE. Also for example icewm and fvwm seem to be both window managers and DE's? Apologies for bringing this up again! -- Kind Regards, B. Hoffmann -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread George Borisov
Ron Johnson wrote: I personally use gdm, but I used wdm before (before getting too depressed about how ugly it is.) Why waste RAM on something you have *no* need for and doesn't *do* anything that the console does just as well? Because I like shiny. Shiny == good. Anyway, I have the RAM

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 03:40:48PM +, Clive Menzies wrote: On (31/10/06 14:51), B. Hoffmann wrote: I' ve been installing purely a base sytem this time as opposed to before always going with the default install with Gnome. Also for example icewm and fvwm seem to be both window

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread Clive Menzies
On (31/10/06 13:19), Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 03:40:48PM +, Clive Menzies wrote: Since getting into Debian I've progressed down the scale (of bloat) from KDE to Xfce to Enlightenment to Fluxbox. I'm very happy now but guess I may get bored and try something

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/31/06 11:39, George Borisov wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: I personally use gdm, but I used wdm before (before getting too depressed about how ugly it is.) Why waste RAM on something you have *no* need for and doesn't *do* anything that the

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread Marc Shapiro
and fvwm seem to be both window managers and DE's? Since getting into Debian I've progressed down the scale (of bloat) from KDE to Xfce to Enlightenment to Fluxbox. I'm very happy now but guess I may get bored and try something else but fluxbox is lean mean but pretty functional. I

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread B. Hoffmann
Thank you for all the replies and good explanations, and a bit of a laugh. Jochen Schulz wrote: Yes and No. A WM is supposed to, well, manage windows (or give the user the chance to do it). Typically this includes: * place windows somewhere on the desktop (may be interactive) * decorate

Re: Window managers-which one?

2006-10-31 Thread Mark Grieveson
Plus - how do you get icons to display on your fluxbox work space? Install the program idesk. In your startup file, at /home/user/.fluxbox/startup, add idesk (without quotes). Start fluxbox and you'll see a home icon. If my memory serves me correctly, I think it's pretty easy to

Re: adding other window managers

2006-03-22 Thread Leonid Grinberg
Hi all I have been using slackware based distros and on that distro I know my way around. The help I need is in how to add another window manager to the, what I presume is gdm in debian sarge. In slackware its almost as simple as editing one file. It doesnt seem that

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-16 Thread Adam Hardy
happen instead though - quite interesting!). Still to try wmaker and a couple of others. The problem with gnome is that it stalls on startup for about 3 to 5 mins with certain window managers: wmaker, uwm, blackbox, icewm but for others (enlightenment, metacity, lwm) it's not a problem. I think

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-16 Thread Jochen Schulz
Adam Hardy: The problem with gnome is that it stalls on startup for about 3 to 5 mins with certain window managers: wmaker, uwm, blackbox, icewm I don't use Gnome but I tried it with IceWM and it didn't stall back then. I think it lies with either gnome-proxy or gnome-session, I'm not sure

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
that I want a window manager to perform yet. I've also tried many window managers. Which little quirks do you want? I find that little things can really make a big difference. Kai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Angelo Bertolli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, I'd like to find out a way to keep windows from stealing focus if at all possible. A number of window managers have a focus new windows option. It may work to turn that off. I don't know whether your wm has such an option, though. Kai

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Adam Hardy
managers with gnome a long time ago, but had no luck. What exactly do you mean by stealing focus? I see different behaviour from different window managers. For instance enlightenment gives focus to the window that the mouse is over, but without bringing it forward. Not sure if what you mean

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Adam Hardy
manager fulfills all the little quirks that I want a window manager to perform yet. I've also tried many window managers. Which little quirks do you want? I find that little things can really make a big difference. When I use ALT-Tab to cycle thro all open apps, I would like to see all apps

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Simo Kauppi
happen instead though - quite interesting!). Still to try wmaker and a couple of others. I haven't found a window manager fulfills all the little quirks that I want a window manager to perform yet. I've also tried many window managers. Which little quirks do you want? I find

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Kai Grossjohann
think. Then, sawfish can do it with an extra module. Lessee... Perhaps merlin-ugliness is the package in question. I would like to have focus when I click on any part of a window, not just the title bar. This is the behavior for many window managers. I think all of the ones that do click

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Adam Hardy
Kai Grossjohann on 14/09/05 13:01, wrote: Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I use ALT-Tab to cycle thro all open apps, I would like to see all apps in a list or a row with the current selected app highlighted. I saw one window manager doing it just how I like it but don't remember

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:17:42 +0100 Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I use ALT-Tab to cycle thro all open apps, I would like to see all apps in a list or a row with the current selected app highlighted. I saw one window manager doing it just how I like it but don't remember which one

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Simo Kauppi
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 01:37:52PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: Kai Grossjohann on 14/09/05 13:01, wrote: Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I use ALT-Tab to cycle thro all open apps, I would like to see all apps in a list or a row with the current selected app highlighted. I saw one

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Simo Kauppi
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 03:19:14PM +0300, Simo Kauppi wrote: Hi, My two cents to the window manager monologue... :) On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 10:17:42AM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: When I use ALT-Tab to cycle thro all open apps, I would like to see all apps in a list or a row with the

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Adam Hardy
of it configured at least in enlightenment. So I just tried icewm. I came unstuck pretty quickly. Firstly it didn't really like gnome and took about 3 mins to start up instead of 5 secs. I think it has something to do with the gnome-session although it's difficult to tell. Some other window managers

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Adam Hardy
Cybe R. Wizard on 14/09/05 13:38, wrote: I think you'd be happy with IceWM as it is configurable to do most of what you want so far. In addition you'll need Iceconf or Icepref for configuration. one major plus point for icewm - it starts all programs with a window the same size as the

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-14 Thread Paul Scott
Adam Hardy wrote: Cybe R. Wizard on 14/09/05 13:38, wrote: I think you'd be happy with IceWM as it is configurable to do most of what you want so far. In addition you'll need Iceconf or Icepref for configuration. one major plus point for icewm - it starts all programs with a window the

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Adam Hardy
, launch the new one you want from the command line and then save the session (by exiting I think, if I understand the implication). I'm using selectwm and there's an auto-generated file ~/.selectwmrc which specifies the window managers that appear in the menu and the commands that launch them

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Adam Hardy
Kai Grossjohann on 12/09/05 11:58, wrote: Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didn't realise Gnome was a window manager. Yet it runs with sawfish. Makes me think I should be able to choose Gnome and Enlightenment, but how? Gnome is not a window manager. Gnome contains many programs,

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Adam Hardy
Kai Grossjohann on 12/09/05 11:58, wrote: Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didn't realise Gnome was a window manager. Yet it runs with sawfish. Makes me think I should be able to choose Gnome and Enlightenment, but how? Gnome is not a window manager. Gnome contains many programs,

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 05:39:58PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: This thread is turning into a bit of monologue. Does nobody else have issues with their window manager? Or even better, solved them? Adam, keep talking. It is an interesting monologue. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Angelo Bertolli
like to find out a way to keep windows from stealing focus if at all possible. I tried a couple of window managers with gnome a long time ago, but had no luck. I think you can change your window manager with gconf: desktop - gnome - applications - window_manager -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Adam Hardy
. It is an interesting monologue. Yes, I'd like to find out a way to keep windows from stealing focus if at all possible. I tried a couple of window managers with gnome a long time ago, but had no luck. What exactly do you mean by stealing focus? I see different behaviour from different window

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread David Purton
manager? Or even better, solved them? Adam, keep talking. It is an interesting monologue. Yes, I'd like to find out a way to keep windows from stealing focus if at all possible. I tried a couple of window managers with gnome a long time ago, but had no luck. What exactly do you

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Nguyen Anh Phu
manager? Or even better, solved them? Adam, keep talking. It is an interesting monologue. Yes, I'd like to find out a way to keep windows from stealing focus if at all possible. I tried a couple of window managers with gnome a long time ago, but had no luck. What exactly do

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-13 Thread Angelo
of monologue. Does nobody else have issues with their window manager? Or even better, solved them? Adam, keep talking. It is an interesting monologue. Yes, I'd like to find out a way to keep windows from stealing focus if at all possible. I tried a couple of window managers with gnome a long

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-12 Thread Adam Hardy
Almut Behrens on 12/09/05 01:15, wrote: On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 11:47:04PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: Adam Hardy on 11/09/05 23:00, wrote: UWM: Your X-Server doesn't support the SHAPES extension . terminating I can't find any reference to SHAPES extension in synaptic. Where does it

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-12 Thread Adam Hardy
realise I don't know what window manager is what. I'm running selectwm which launches a little dialog box showing a list of window managers: Gnome, KDE, Enlightenment, Sawfish, Blackbox etc I'm probably going to go with Enlightenment, but I'm still checking them all out. I didn't realise Gnome

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-12 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Adam Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I didn't realise Gnome was a window manager. Yet it runs with sawfish. Makes me think I should be able to choose Gnome and Enlightenment, but how? Gnome is not a window manager. Gnome contains many programs, one of which is a window manager. There should

Re: changing window managers

2005-09-12 Thread Joachim Fahnenmüller
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 02:48:42PM +0200, Thomas Jollans wrote: Joachim Fahnenmüller wrote: Sorry if the question is stupid, but: What is a session manager, and how does it get involved? THX AFAIK the session manager is a program that a) starts the programs of a desktop env (gnome

Re: changing window managers

2005-09-11 Thread Thomas Jollans
Joachim Fahnenmüller wrote: Sorry if the question is stupid, but: What is a session manager, and how does it get involved? THX AFAIK the session manager is a program that a) starts the programs of a desktop env (gnome needs nautilus,metacity,gnome-panel and maybe more) b) starts certain

adventures with window managers

2005-09-11 Thread Adam Hardy
I just put a .xinitrc file in my $HOME with 'blackbox' as the window manager, and I found a 'window manager' submenu. This allows me to change from blackbox to metacity or afterwm or several others, but enlightenment, sawfish and uwm wont run, giving an error like this: X-window does not

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-11 Thread Adam Hardy
Adam Hardy on 11/09/05 22:53, wrote: I just put a .xinitrc file in my $HOME with 'blackbox' as the window manager, and I found a 'window manager' submenu. This allows me to change from blackbox to metacity or afterwm or several others, but enlightenment, sawfish and uwm wont run, giving an

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-11 Thread Adam Hardy
Adam Hardy on 11/09/05 23:00, wrote: UWM: Your X-Server doesn't support the SHAPES extension . terminating I can't find any reference to SHAPES extension in synaptic. Where does it reside? Just realised you probably don't install SHAPES, rather upgrade something to a version that does

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-11 Thread Almut Behrens
On Sun, Sep 11, 2005 at 11:47:04PM +0100, Adam Hardy wrote: Adam Hardy on 11/09/05 23:00, wrote: UWM: Your X-Server doesn't support the SHAPES extension . terminating I can't find any reference to SHAPES extension in synaptic. Where does it reside? Just realised you probably don't

Re: adventures with window managers

2005-09-11 Thread Rogério Brito
On Sep 12 2005, Almut Behrens wrote: BTW, with xdpyinfo you can check which extensions your X-server supports. See the list following number of extensions:. Be careful, though, that not all extensions may work. For instance, the output of xdpyinfo may list the xv extension, even though it is

Re: changing window managers

2005-09-08 Thread Adam Hardy
Larry Fletcher on 08/09/05 02:51, wrote: I don't use a desktop. It takes about 3 seconds for startx to launch icewm using icewm-session in either ~/.xsession or x-session-manager. I used to use metacity (default with sarge) and it took 10 seconds maybe, and then I tried using others and it

Re: changing window managers

2005-09-07 Thread Kai Grossjohann
David Jardine [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, Sep 05, 2005 at 06:56:00PM +0200, Kai Grossjohann wrote: John L Fjellstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .xsession or .xinitrc Not sure what the difference between those two files are. .xinitrc is invoked by xinit. startx invokes xinit.

Re: changing window managers

2005-09-07 Thread Joachim Fahnenmüller
managers are installed. The x-session-manager updates: /etc/alternatives/@x-session-manager Why should the session manager symlink be changed by a window manager? The x-window-manager is updated when new window managers are installed, so maybe @x-session-manager should link

Re: changing window managers

2005-09-07 Thread Kai Grossjohann
Joachim Fahnenmüller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry if the question is stupid, but: What is a session manager, and how does it get involved? A window manager allows you to move and resize windows, iconify them, and so on. A session manager remembers which windows (applications) were open and

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