Re: et.al.

2019-10-09 Thread Brian
On Wed 09 Oct 2019 at 16:16:55 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Brian wrote: > > Note that there isn't any LDOSUBSCRIBER in the headers of this mail. > > Your spam score worsened from -10.3 to 0.1 consequentially. > Shall we still believe that you are you ? The mail was also delayed for

Re: et.al.

2019-10-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian wrote: > Note that there isn't any LDOSUBSCRIBER in the headers of this mail. Your spam score worsened from -10.3 to 0.1 consequentially. Shall we still believe that you are you ? Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-09 Thread Brian
On Tue 08 Oct 2019 at 00:25:44 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 18:42:38 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 15:09:09 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > But how do Debian list servers know ? > > > > A good question. How are my mails matched with

Re: et.al.

2019-10-08 Thread David Wright
I think this got attached to the wrong subthread. On Tue 08 Oct 2019 at 09:08:40 (+0200), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > i wrote: > > > I wonder whether my mail provider would allow me to send via SMTP > > > MAIL FROM: > > > From: "Somebody Else" > > David Wright wrote: > > It's fairly easy to

Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-08 Thread Joe
On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 08:52:11 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 09:13:31AM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 00:25:44 -0500 > > David Wright wrote: > > > Why would you use a "subscribed.address" (presumably an email > > > address) for your HELO (presumably actually a

Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 09:13:31AM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 00:25:44 -0500 > David Wright wrote: > > Why would you use a "subscribed.address" (presumably an email address) > > for your HELO (presumably actually a EHLO). I was under the impression > > that it should be a domain, ie a

Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-08 Thread Joe
On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 00:25:44 -0500 David Wright wrote: > > > > "subscribed.address" is the HELO and can be what I want it to be. > > See the headers of my previous mail. > > Why would you use a "subscribed.address" (presumably an email address) > for your HELO (presumably actually a EHLO). I

Re: et.al.

2019-10-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > I wonder whether my mail provider would allow me to send via SMTP > > MAIL FROM: > > From: "Somebody Else" David Wright wrote: > It's fairly easy to find out by trying it out, I have the technical means but not the courage to challenge my provider. > Perhaps not as easy

Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread David Wright
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 18:42:38 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 15:09:09 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > [...] > > > But how do Debian list servers know ? > > A good question. How are my mails matched with my subscribed address > so that I am awarded the accolade of LDOSUBSCRIBER?

Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread David Wright
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 15:09:09 (+0200), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > i wrote: > > > To my best knowledge, "X-Spam-Status: ... tests=...,LDOSUBSCRIBER,..." > > > says that the "From:" address of the mail is subscribed. > > Brian wrote: > > Are you sure it is the From: and not the envelope From? My

Re: et.al.

2019-10-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > But how do Debian list servers know [that Brian is subscribed] ? > > [...] is it because the first mail hop added "envelope-from" to > > its Received: header ? Brian wrote: > I can alter that too, and still be designated LDOSUBSCRIBER. Hmm. I see you tinkered with the first

Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 15:09:09 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] > But how do Debian list servers know ? A good question. How are my mails matched with my subscribed address so that I am awarded the accolade of LDOSUBSCRIBER? On the basis that my past statements about the SMTP protocol

Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Brian
On Mon 07 Oct 2019 at 15:09:09 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > To my best knowledge, "X-Spam-Status: ... tests=...,LDOSUBSCRIBER,..." > > > says that the "From:" address of the mail is subscribed. > > Brian wrote: > > Are you sure it is the From: and not the envelope From?

Re: et.al., (was: Dependencies et al, was: Default Debian install harassed me)

2019-10-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > To my best knowledge, "X-Spam-Status: ... tests=...,LDOSUBSCRIBER,..." > > says that the "From:" address of the mail is subscribed. Brian wrote: > Are you sure it is the From: and not the envelope From? My From: is > not subscribed. Interesting observation. So the address by