Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-11 Thread Jiri Baum
Hello, Nathan E Norman: The real reason FAT filesystems are good for floppies is because it wastes the least space, while providing a decent medium for transferring data. But if you're just going to put one tar.gz file on it, do you need a filesystem at all? Jiri [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-10 Thread Phillip Deackes
George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, e2fs is wasteful of disk space. You will have more available disk space in an msdos floppy format. That is exactly why I use the minix filesystem. Maybe that's the compromise you need!! -- Phillip Deackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Linux v.2.1

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-09 Thread Pollywog
On 08-Apr-99 Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: polly wogged, The real reason FAT filesystems are good for floppies is because it wastes the least space, while providing a decent medium for transferring data. If you really need the features ext2 provides then by all means use mke2fs.

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-09 Thread John Galt
have you tried mke2fs /dev/fdX? On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Pollywog wrote: On 08-Apr-99 Pollywog wrote: On 08-Apr-99 George Bonser wrote: Try superformat Is that for formatting Linux floppies too? It appears that it is for DOS floppies and I want to get ext2 floppies. --

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-09 Thread Pollywog
On 08-Apr-99 George Bonser wrote: On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Egon Schmid wrote: No, floppies for Linux should be formatted with a Linux filesystem. For what reason? I don't like M$ I mean a technical reason. I was looking for a technical reason too; for changing my habit of

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-09 Thread Bruce Sass
Excuse my ignorance (I've only ever used dos 6.20 with 1.44M disks), but... Why is ext2 wasteful of disk space? I usually format to 1920k (83 tracks doesn't always work for me, so I don't use 1992k). The larger block size and reserved space can be looked after with mke2fs -b 512 -m 0 ..., and

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-09 Thread Bruce Sass
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, George Bonser wrote: On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Bruce Sass wrote: Why is ext2 wasteful of disk space? Backup superblock, inode table, space reserved for root, etc. Re: superblocks, we'll just have to wait until -s, sparse superblocks works properly (2.2.x kernels?). The

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-09 Thread Wayne Topa
Subject: fdformat missing Date: Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 06:09:59PM - In reply to:Pollywog Quoting Pollywog([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I am missing fdformat. Which package contains it? From your many questions, I assume you are really interested in knowing a lot about your system

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-09 Thread Joey Hess
George Bonser wrote: Also, e2fs is wasteful of disk space. You will have more available disk space in an msdos floppy format. The best thing to do is to use the minix filesystem. This will use less space than ext2, while while allowing you to use unix style permissions and owners. -- see shy

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-09 Thread Peter S Galbraith
George Bonser wrote: Also, e2fs is wasteful of disk space. You will have more available disk space in an msdos floppy format. $ superformat /dev/fd0 tracksize=12KB cyl=83 mss $ mdir a: Volume in drive A has no label Volume Serial Number is 6F43-9F01 Directory for A:/ No files

fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread Pollywog
I am missing fdformat. Which package contains it? thanks -- Andrew [PGP5.0 Key ID 0x5EE61C37]

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
I am missing fdformat. Which package contains it? superformat in fdutils, i believe thanks -- Andrew [PGP5.0 Key ID 0x5EE61C37] OK

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread Pollywog
On 08-Apr-99 George Bonser wrote: Try superformat Is that for formatting Linux floppies too? -- Andrew [PGP5.0 Key ID 0x5EE61C37]

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread Pollywog
On 08-Apr-99 Pollywog wrote: On 08-Apr-99 George Bonser wrote: Try superformat Is that for formatting Linux floppies too? It appears that it is for DOS floppies and I want to get ext2 floppies. -- Andrew [PGP5.0 KeyID 0x5EE61C37] [ICQ#175285]

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread Pollywog
On 08-Apr-99 George Bonser wrote: What do you mean Linux floppies? You should always use msdos format for floppies on Linux. Oh?? Is there a reason for that? I have never done it that way. -- Andrew amateur [PGP5.0 KeyID 0x5EE61C37] [ICQ#175285]

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread Egon Schmid
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, George Bonser wrote: What do you mean Linux floppies? You should always use msdos format for floppies on Linux. No, floppies for Linux should be formatted with a Linux filesystem. -Egon

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread Pollywog
On 08-Apr-99 Egon Schmid wrote: On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, George Bonser wrote: What do you mean Linux floppies? You should always use msdos format for floppies on Linux. No, floppies for Linux should be formatted with a Linux filesystem. -Egon oh my. Looks like I have stirred up the

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread MallarJ
In a message dated 4/8/99 2:51:10 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you mean Linux floppies? You should always use msdos format for floppies on Linux. No, floppies for Linux should be formatted with a Linux filesystem. -Egon oh my. Looks like I

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread Pollywog
On 08-Apr-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/8/99 2:51:10 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you mean Linux floppies? You should always use msdos format for floppies on Linux. No, floppies for Linux should be formatted with a Linux

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread Egon Schmid
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/8/99 2:51:10 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you mean Linux floppies? You should always use msdos format for floppies on Linux. No, floppies for Linux should be formatted with a

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread Egon Schmid
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, George Bonser wrote: On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Egon Schmid wrote: No, floppies for Linux should be formatted with a Linux filesystem. For what reason? I don't like M$ -Egon

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Egon Schmid wrote: [ snip ] : This is a Linux ML and I think the default answer should be a Linux : filesystem. Do all people on the ML read floppies on Windows 95/98/2000 or : NT? What about installing vmware (www.vmware.com) and use M$ together : with Debian. Well,

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread MallarJ
In a message dated 4/8/99 3:17:57 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a Linux ML and I think the default answer should be a Linux filesystem. Do all people on the ML read floppies on Windows 95/98/2000 or NT? What about installing vmware (www.vmware.com) and use M$

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread Pollywog
On 08-Apr-99 Nathan E Norman wrote: On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Egon Schmid wrote: [ snip ] : This is a Linux ML and I think the default answer should be a Linux : filesystem. Do all people on the ML read floppies on Windows 95/98/2000 or : NT? What about installing vmware (www.vmware.com)

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread Pollywog
On 08-Apr-99 George Bonser wrote: On Thu, 8 Apr 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would think the real answer depends on your use of the floppies. If you're going to use them only for Linux - no reason to get the DOS tools involved, format them with a Linux filesystem. If you're going to

Re: fdformat missing

1999-04-08 Thread Richard E. Hawkins Esq.
polly wogged, The real reason FAT filesystems are good for floppies is because it wastes the least space, while providing a decent medium for transferring data. If you really need the features ext2 provides then by all means use mke2fs. Just the answer I was seeking. So it will be