On Friday 02 November 2018 23:08:52 David Wright wrote:
> On Sat 27 Oct 2018 at 11:29:35 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 27 October 2018 11:03:56 Matthew Crews wrote:
> > > Original Message
> > > On Oct 27, 2018, 06:58, Curt wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2018-10-27, Gene
On Sat 27 Oct 2018 at 11:29:35 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 27 October 2018 11:03:56 Matthew Crews wrote:
>
> > Original Message
> > On Oct 27, 2018, 06:58, Curt wrote:
> >
> > On 2018-10-27, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >> Might be nice, but several of the dependecies
On Mon 29 Oct 2018 at 20:37:18 +, Brian wrote:
> about, the rewrite could be considered. Baited breath and all that.
"Bated", if preferred.
--
Brian.
On Mon 29 Oct 2018 at 16:11:01 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 29 October 2018 11:05:32 Michael Stone wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:45:50AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >Is it a separate bug to fuss about the near total lack of meaning to
> > > the man pages for ip and its
Just file a bug report describing what you did, what you expected to
happen, what did happen, and why you believe that the difference
constitutes a bug. No need to include a patch.
--
John Hasler
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:11:01PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
Hmmf. If I could make an educated suggestion, but I've not got a clue as
to how it is supposed to work, those pages aren't a how-to, so I'd be
pinning the tail on the donkey just as if I was blindfolded. But this
isn't a party.
If
On Monday 29 October 2018 11:05:32 Michael Stone wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:45:50AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >Is it a separate bug to fuss about the near total lack of meaning to
> > the man pages for ip and its children.
>
> Assuming you have no substantive suggestions, it's not a
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 10:45:50AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
Is it a separate bug to fuss about the near total lack of meaning to the
man pages for ip and its children.
Assuming you have no substantive suggestions, it's not a bug report at
all, it's just complaining.
On Monday 29 October 2018 10:45:50 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 29 October 2018 08:53:35 Michael Stone wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 08:18:44PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > >On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:56:13PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> > >> The definition for netmask I find in that section is
On Monday 29 October 2018 08:53:35 Michael Stone wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 08:18:44PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> >On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:56:13PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> >> The definition for netmask I find in that section is
> >> netmask mask
> >> Netmask (dotted quad or
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 08:18:44PM +0300, Reco wrote:
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:56:13PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
The definition for netmask I find in that section is
netmask mask
Netmask (dotted quad or CIDR)
which at a glance would lead me to expect a full CIDR-format address
On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 08:19:54AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
And amazingly to me, I read that RFC, and did not encounter the
"netmask 24" syntax anyplace in it. In any event I think all my machines
use the dotted quad representations.
It should be unsurprising that an internet RFC fails to
On Monday 29 October 2018 07:18:44 Michael Stone wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 08:18:44PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> >On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:56:13PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> >> The definition for netmask I find in that section is
> >> netmask mask
> >> Netmask (dotted quad or
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 08:18:44PM +0300, Reco wrote:
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:56:13PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
The definition for netmask I find in that section is
netmask mask
Netmask (dotted quad or CIDR)
which at a glance would lead me to expect a full CIDR-format address
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:04:54PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Sunday 28 October 2018 08:43:33 Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 07:04:02AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Ever consider you're doing it the wrong way?
> > This will work:
> >
> > iface eth0 inet static
> >
On 2018-10-28, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>
>> I'm reading:
>>
>> dns-search determines which domain is appended for dns lookups.
>> Normally you will specify here the same domain as returned by
>> hostname -f.*
>
> Which is itself and patently wrong for this since the local dns query
> path is
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:18:42PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Sunday 28 October 2018 10:51:50 Michael Stone wrote:
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 10:58:49PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>It *looks* like a misunderstood reference to nsswitch.conf maybe:
>
>hosts: files dns
We've been
On Sunday 28 October 2018 15:22:32 Brian wrote:
> On Sun 28 Oct 2018 at 12:04:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Maybe its time we let this thread die, it is working now, as I have
> > other hardware problems to deal with ATM. With shipping delays
> > delays from the Chinglish writers, till around
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 09:59, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 27 October 2018 18:49:13 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 27 October 2018 18:20:16 David wrote:
> > >
> > > There seems to be an ongoing theme here with lines that look like
> > > *search hosts dns
> > > popping up in other
On Sun 28 Oct 2018 at 12:04:54 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Maybe its time we let this thread die, it is working now, as I have other
> hardware problems to deal with ATM. With shipping delays delays from the
> Chinglish writers, till around thanksgiving here in the yuuh ess aye.
> Needless to
On Sunday 28 October 2018 12:23:35 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:04:54PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 07:04:02AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > Ever consider you're doing it the wrong way?
> > > > > This will work:
> > > > >
> > > > >
On Sun 28 Oct 2018 at 12:56:13 -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2018-10-28 at 12:23, Reco wrote:
> >
> > Gene, if I needed a *normal* result of this sequence I'd asked for
> > one. What I've asked was a *broken* one, which does not get a default
> > route as a result.
>
> If I'm understanding
Hi.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:56:13PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2018-10-28 at 12:23, Reco wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:04:54PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> [that in a previous message, Reco wrote:]
>
> >>> interfaces(5), the usual place.
> >>
> >>
On 10/28/2018 5:56 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2018-10-28 at 12:23, Reco wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:04:54PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> [that in a previous message, Reco wrote:]
>
interfaces(5), the usual place.
>>>
>>> I just checked that man page on wheezy,
On 2018-10-28 at 12:23, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:04:54PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
[that in a previous message, Reco wrote:]
>>> interfaces(5), the usual place.
>>
>> I just checked that man page on wheezy, jessie and stretch, and no
>> examples are found using
Hi.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:04:54PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 07:04:02AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Ever consider you're doing it the wrong way?
> > > > This will work:
> > > >
> > > > iface eth0 inet static
> > > > address 192.168.NN.12
> >
On Sunday 28 October 2018 10:51:50 Michael Stone wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 10:58:49PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> >It *looks* like a misunderstood reference to nsswitch.conf maybe:
> >
> >hosts: files dns
>
> We've been through this before, explained it thoroughly, he never
>
On Sunday 28 October 2018 08:43:33 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 07:04:02AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Ever consider you're doing it the wrong way?
> > > This will work:
> > >
> > > iface eth0 inet static
> > > address 192.168.NN.12
> > > netmask 24
> > > gateway
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018, Reco wrote:
So, answering your original question, you have working name resolution
because you have a caching nameserver on your laptop. My money's on
dnsmasq.
you are right: I had bind installed on my laptop, but on my
desktop the bind9 package was missing. After
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 10:58:49PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
It *looks* like a misunderstood reference to nsswitch.conf maybe:
hosts: files dns
We've been through this before, explained it thoroughly, he never
listens, then he brings it back again and the cycle repeats. It's
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 01:13:07PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
Sorry Steve, but your claim that its simply not true, pulls my trigger,
best to duck.
You doing it wrong and refusing to listen when people try to correct you
is no reason for anyohne else to "duck" as if they're at fault.
Hi.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 04:17:17PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 02:13:30PM +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Oct 2018, Reco wrote:
> >
> > > strace getent hosts bad.solutions
> >
> > thanks for your answer, but the output is rather obscure
Hi.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 02:13:30PM +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018, Reco wrote:
>
> > strace getent hosts bad.solutions
>
> thanks for your answer, but the output is rather obscure for a non-guru
> user,
> except a lot of "no such file or directory"
> In
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018, Reco wrote:
strace getent hosts bad.solutions
thanks for your answer, but the output is rather obscure for a non-guru user,
except a lot of "no such file or directory"
In particular, I don't see how to explain the difference of behaviour on
my 2 computers.
best
Hi.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:53:11PM +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018, Curt wrote:
>
> > So it seems your config would create the following entries in
> > /etc/resolv.conf
> >
> > nameserver 192.168.NN.1
> > search hosts dns
> >
>
> hi,
> I thought it was
Hi.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 07:04:02AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Ever consider you're doing it the wrong way?
> > This will work:
> >
> > iface eth0 inet static
> > address 192.168.NN.12
> > netmask 24
> > gateway 192.168.NN.1
> >
> in 20 years, I have never seen that
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018, Curt wrote:
So it seems your config would create the following entries in /etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 192.168.NN.1
search hosts dns
hi,
I thought it was better to rename this thread, as the discussion shifted
a little.
I have a question about resolv.conf:
I
On Sunday 28 October 2018 06:30:32 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 05:59:52AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 28 October 2018 02:55:09 Reco wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 05:35:49PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 27 October 2018
On Sunday 28 October 2018 04:53:10 Curt wrote:
> On 2018-10-27, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> Gene, the line
> >>
> >> > >dns-search hosts dns
> >>
> >> that you show above does not match anything documented by
> >> the manpages on wheezy. I checked
> >> interfaces(5)
> >> resolv.conf(5)
> >>
Hi.
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 05:59:52AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 28 October 2018 02:55:09 Reco wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 05:35:49PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Saturday 27 October 2018 14:37:38 Reco wrote:
> > > > Hi.
> > > >
> > >
On Sunday 28 October 2018 02:55:09 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 05:35:49PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday 27 October 2018 14:37:38 Reco wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 01:13:07PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Then give me an install
On 2018-10-27, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>
>> Gene, the line
>>
>> > >dns-search hosts dns
>>
>> that you show above does not match anything documented by
>> the manpages on wheezy. I checked
>> interfaces(5)
>> resolv.conf(5)
>> resolvconf(8)
>> nsswitch.conf(5)
>>
>> Gene, what are you
Hi.
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 05:35:49PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 27 October 2018 14:37:38 Reco wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 01:13:07PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Then give me an install that can be made to work in a hosts file
> > > defined
On Sat, 2018-10-27 at 13:13 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 27 October 2018 11:09:48 Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
> > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >On Saturday 27 October 2018 09:58:45 Curt wrote:
> > >
> > >root@coyote:/home/gene/Downloads# dpkg -i
> > >vivaldi-stable_2.1.1337.36-1_i386.deb
> >
On Saturday 27 October 2018 18:49:13 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 27 October 2018 18:20:16 David wrote:
> > On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 05:21, Steve McIntyre
wrote:
> > > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > >auto eth0
> > > >iface eth0 inet static
> > > >address 192.168.NN.2/24
> > > >gateway
David wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 05:21, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
>There seems to be an ongoing theme here with lines that look like
> *search hosts dns
>popping up in other places in Gene's system.
>
>See:
>https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/10/msg00857.html
On Saturday 27 October 2018 18:20:16 David wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 05:21, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >auto eth0
> > >iface eth0 inet static
> > >address 192.168.NN.2/24
> > >gateway 192.168.NN.1
> > >dns-nameserver 192.168.NN.1
> > >dns-search hosts dns
> >
> > I'm
On Sat 27 Oct 2018 at 17:21:43 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Saturday 27 October 2018 14:21:23 Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
> > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > >On Saturday 27 October 2018 11:09:48 Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > >> You keep on asserting this, but it's patently not true. That's a
> > >> standard
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 05:21, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> >auto eth0
> >iface eth0 inet static
> >address 192.168.NN.2/24
> >gateway 192.168.NN.1
> >dns-nameserver 192.168.NN.1
> >dns-search hosts dns
>
> I'm assuming that "NN" is a placeholder you've added, and not copied
>
On Saturday 27 October 2018 15:52:53 Matthew Crews wrote:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>
> On Saturday, October 27, 2018 8:29 AM, Gene Heskett
wrote:
> > On Saturday 27 October 2018 11:03:56 Matthew Crews wrote:
> > > Correct me if I'm wrong, but Wheezy is no longer supported, and
> > >
On Saturday 27 October 2018 14:37:38 Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 01:13:07PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Then give me an install that can be made to work in a hosts file
> > defined local network that can accept a gateway statement in its
> > e/n/i file. The default
On Saturday 27 October 2018 14:21:23 Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> >On Saturday 27 October 2018 11:09:48 Steve McIntyre wrote:
> >> You keep on asserting this, but it's patently not true. That's a
> >> standard feature of Debian on all architectures. I understand
> >> you've seen
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Saturday, October 27, 2018 8:29 AM, Gene Heskett
wrote:
> On Saturday 27 October 2018 11:03:56 Matthew Crews wrote:
>
> > Correct me if I'm wrong, but Wheezy is no longer supported, and Jessie
> > is barely supported. Except as a curiosity, why would you want
Hi.
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 01:13:07PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Then give me an install that can be made to work in a hosts file defined
> local network that can accept a gateway statement in its e/n/i file. The
> default install does NOT accept it until the network has been brought
Gene Heskett wrote:
>On Saturday 27 October 2018 11:09:48 Steve McIntyre wrote:
>>
>> You keep on asserting this, but it's patently not true. That's a
>> standard feature of Debian on all architectures. I understand you've
>> seen problems, but it just needs debugging to see how things were
>>
On Saturday 27 October 2018 11:09:48 Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> >On Saturday 27 October 2018 09:58:45 Curt wrote:
> >
> >root@coyote:/home/gene/Downloads# dpkg -i
> >vivaldi-stable_2.1.1337.36-1_i386.deb
> >Selecting previously unselected package vivaldi-stable.
> >(Reading
On 2018-10-27, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, Curt wrote:
>
>> At any rate a curl command line that proves inoperable on Wheezy arouses
>> the interest of even the most jaded observer.
>
>I found it on Stretch, but was unable to use it for a ftp transfer,
>while ncftp works
On Saturday 27 October 2018 11:03:56 Matthew Crews wrote:
> Original Message
> On Oct 27, 2018, 06:58, Curt wrote:
>
> On 2018-10-27, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> Might be nice, but several of the dependecies can only be satisfied
> >> if on stretch, and the curl command lines
Gene Heskett wrote:
>On Saturday 27 October 2018 09:58:45 Curt wrote:
>
>root@coyote:/home/gene/Downloads# dpkg -i
>vivaldi-stable_2.1.1337.36-1_i386.deb
>Selecting previously unselected package vivaldi-stable.
>(Reading database ... 517038 files and directories currently installed.)
>Unpacking
Original Message
On Oct 27, 2018, 06:58, Curt wrote:
On 2018-10-27, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
>> Might be nice, but several of the dependecies can only be satisfied if on
>> stretch, and the curl command lines don't work on wheezy. At all.
>>
>At any rate a curl command line that
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, Curt wrote:
At any rate a curl command line that proves inoperable on Wheezy arouses
the interest of even the most jaded observer.
I found it on Stretch, but was unable to use it for a ftp transfer,
while ncftp works like a charm.
best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel
On Saturday 27 October 2018 09:58:45 Curt wrote:
> On 2018-10-27, Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> These folks appear to have found some kind of workaround for the
> >> https prefixation syndrome:
> >>
> >> https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/28038/how-to-set-a-local-file-as-ho
> >>me- page
> >>
> >> > best
On 2018-10-27, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>
>> These folks appear to have found some kind of workaround for the https
>> prefixation syndrome:
>>
>> https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/28038/how-to-set-a-local-file-as-home-
>>page
>>
>> > best regards,
>
> Might be nice, but several of the dependecies can
On 27/10/2018 13:24, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote:
>
>> Did you try an absolute path?
>>
>> file:///home/user/bookmarks.html
> I tried it, and also file://~user...
>
I set my home page to http://localhost/index.shtml
Cheers, Tony
On Saturday 27 October 2018 08:05:13 Curt wrote:
> On 2018-10-27, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> > On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote:
> >> Did you try an absolute path?
> >>
> >> file:///home/user/bookmarks.html
> >
> >I tried it, and also file://~user...
> >
> >but the problem is
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, Matthew Crews wrote:
Use Chromium instead of Chrome. Chrome is actually based on Chromium.
i386 versions of Chromium are in the Debian repos.
It's what I do since several years, but I saw that:
The biggest difference between the two browsers is that, while Chrome
On 2018-10-27, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote:
>
>> Did you try an absolute path?
>>
>> file:///home/user/bookmarks.html
>I tried it, and also file://~user...
>
>but the problem is not there, but in the fact that, as I said,
>it puts a https://
On 10/27/18 1:19 AM, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> hi,
> I wanted to install chrome on my intel desktop, but the only version I found
> is amd64.
> Is it possible to get the i386 version?
>
> best regards,
> --
> Pierre Frenkiel
>
Use Chromium instead of Chrome. Chrome is actually based on Chromium.
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, Roberto C. S?nchez wrote:
Did you try an absolute path?
file:///home/user/bookmarks.html
I tried it, and also file://~user...
but the problem is not there, but in the fact that, as I said,
it puts a https:// before..
which of course can't work
Anyway, what
On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 12:37:04PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, Andrew Wood wrote:
>
> > Google no longer produce a 32 bit version but you could try vivaldi
> > which is based on Chrome and has a 32 bit version
> > https://vivaldi.com/download/
> >
> thank you.
> I
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018, Andrew Wood wrote:
Google no longer produce a 32 bit version but you could try vivaldi which is
based on Chrome and has a 32 bit version
https://vivaldi.com/download/
thank you.
I installed it, but I'm not convince by its features
1/ I want to define my
On 27/10/2018 09:19, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
hi,
I wanted to install chrome on my intel desktop, but the only version I
found
is amd64. Is it possible to get the i386 version?
best regards,
Google no longer produce a 32 bit version but you could try vivaldi
which is based on Chrome and has
hi,
I wanted to install chrome on my intel desktop, but the only version I found
is amd64.
Is it possible to get the i386 version?
best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel
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