Re: ia32-apt-get or libc6-i386 on amd64, debian sid?

2009-07-21 Thread MRH

Svenn Are Bjerkem wrote:

2009/7/19 MRH misiek_s...@o2.pl:

I'm pretty confused with the latest changes in sid on amd64. Do ia32-*
packages replace -i386 packages or they are alternatives? After 'upgrading'
to ia32-apt-get I lost wine (however I found there is ia32-wine, which
unfortunately is not displayed in synaptic and I'm not sure if it replaces
wine, then what will happen if there will be 64bit wine?), picasa,
googleearth and some other packages.


Backend is moving in the direction of multi-arch packages. This is an
attempt to bridge the gap until that happens.


Should I purge ia32-* and reinstall libc-i386 or wait?


I installed ia32-apt-get and got my wine back after
$ ia32-apt-get update
$ ia32-apt-get install ia32-wine
and to fix a warning about internet access
$ ia32-apt-get install ia32-libnss-mdns


Thanks for the explanations, now its clearer to me. Unfortunately, 
ia32-wine installtion didn't work for me, installation failed with:


You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies.
  ia32-libsasl2-modules: Depends: ia32-libssl0.9.8 (= 0.9.8f-5~22) but 
it is not going to be installed
  ia32-libwine: Depends: ia32-libssl0.9.8 (= 0.9.8f-5~22) but it is 
not going to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or 
specify a solution).


And when I try:
#  ia32-apt-get install ia32-libssl0.9.8

it fails with:

Unpacking ia32-libssl0.9.8 (from 
.../ia32-libssl0.9.8_0.9.8k-3~22_amd64.deb) ...

dch warning: new version (0.9.8k-3~22) is less than
the current version number (0.9.8k-3).
dpkg: error processing 
/var/cache/ia32-apt/archives/ia32-libssl0.9.8_0.9.8k-3~22_amd64.deb 
(--unpack):
 trying to overwrite `/usr/lib32/i486/libcrypto.so.0.9.8', which is 
also in package lib32ssl0.9.8

Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/ia32-apt/archives/ia32-libssl0.9.8_0.9.8k-3~22_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

I cannot remove libssl0.9.8 - there are other dependencies. Any ideas?


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Re: ia32-apt-get or libc6-i386 on amd64, debian sid?

2009-07-20 Thread Svenn Are Bjerkem
2009/7/19 MRH misiek_s...@o2.pl:
 I'm pretty confused with the latest changes in sid on amd64. Do ia32-*
 packages replace -i386 packages or they are alternatives? After 'upgrading'
 to ia32-apt-get I lost wine (however I found there is ia32-wine, which
 unfortunately is not displayed in synaptic and I'm not sure if it replaces
 wine, then what will happen if there will be 64bit wine?), picasa,
 googleearth and some other packages.

Backend is moving in the direction of multi-arch packages. This is an
attempt to bridge the gap until that happens.


 Should I purge ia32-* and reinstall libc-i386 or wait?

I installed ia32-apt-get and got my wine back after
$ ia32-apt-get update
$ ia32-apt-get install ia32-wine
and to fix a warning about internet access
$ ia32-apt-get install ia32-libnss-mdns

The applications I installed via wine before the hickup works just
like before. The version of wine installed is 1.0.1 as is the same as
I had before.


 Then what I understood reading ia32-apt-get doc and some previous post it is
 supposed to be updated / upgraded separately to the apt-get and I assume it
 won't be included / supported in synaptic?

That's the way I understood it too, unless synaptic implements support
for ia32-apt-get flow. It is anyway supposed to be a bridge towards a
better world, but it seems that the developers are not agreeing on how
to do it. The implementer seems to be a little bit alone against the
rest of the arguing world on debian-devel and everything seems to be a
little bit uncertain at the moment. I got my wine back, and for the
time being I am only using 32-bit windows applications from wine.

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ia32-apt-get or libc6-i386 on amd64, debian sid?

2009-07-19 Thread MRH
I'm pretty confused with the latest changes in sid on amd64. Do ia32-* 
packages replace -i386 packages or they are alternatives? After 
'upgrading' to ia32-apt-get I lost wine (however I found there is 
ia32-wine, which unfortunately is not displayed in synaptic and I'm not 
sure if it replaces wine, then what will happen if there will be 64bit 
wine?), picasa, googleearth and some other packages.


Should I purge ia32-* and reinstall libc-i386 or wait?

Then what I understood reading ia32-apt-get doc and some previous post 
it is supposed to be updated / upgraded separately to the apt-get and I 
assume it won't be included / supported in synaptic?


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Re: ia32-apt-get or libc6-i386 on amd64, debian sid?

2009-07-19 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 14:09, MRHmisiek_s...@o2.pl wrote:
 I'm pretty confused with the latest changes in sid on amd64. Do ia32-*
 packages replace -i386 packages or they are alternatives? After 'upgrading'
 to ia32-apt-get I lost wine (however I found there is ia32-wine, which
 unfortunately is not displayed in synaptic and I'm not sure if it replaces
 wine, then what will happen if there will be 64bit wine?), picasa,
 googleearth and some other packages.

 Should I purge ia32-* and reinstall libc-i386 or wait?

 Then what I understood reading ia32-apt-get doc and some previous post it is
 supposed to be updated / upgraded separately to the apt-get and I assume it
 won't be included / supported in synaptic?

I think we are just waiting on something.
I have about 20 packages that I am holding, until the situation gets sorted
out and I can upgrade without loosing anything.

Not sure what you can do since you already went ahead.
I guess either wait until you can install wine again, or manually downgrade
a score of packages and reinstall wine now.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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