Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
John Lindsay wrote: I just picked up an Iomega 2TB external USB drive. It is formatted NTSF. When plugged into my Win7 pc it is seen however it does not show up on screen under Debian (lenny). Is this drive supported? How can I get it seen by debian? John Well, success of sorts. I transfered folders from my debian system using Ubuntu live just to get something on it. Typed mount in a terminal window and it showed the following: /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620) fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw) /dev/hdb on /new-disk type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /dev/sda1 on /mnt type vfat (rw) /dev/sda1 on /home/ve3sjv/Desktop type vfat (rw,uid=1000,gid=100) It definitely shows the drive is there. Took a look at computer--filesystem--mnt. It showed all five folders and when a folder was opened all files within are present. The folders show up as locked folders on the desktop. What I was expecting to see was a drive icon to show up on the desktop or at the very least show up as a 'named drive' under the 'computer' icon on the screen or under Places in the toolbar. My usb stick shows up as a named drive when installed. My 10G drive that I put into a USb external enclosure shows up as a named drive on the desktop -- The saga continues. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c8b7287.8010...@sentex.net
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On 11/09/10 22:13, John Lindsay wrote: John Lindsay wrote: I just picked up an Iomega 2TB external USB drive. It is formatted NTSF. When plugged into my Win7 pc it is seen however it does not show up on screen under Debian (lenny). Is this drive supported? How can I get it seen by debian? John Well, success of sorts. I transfered folders from my debian system using Ubuntu live just to get something on it. Typed mount in a terminal window and it showed the following: /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620) fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw) /dev/hdb on /new-disk type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /dev/sda1 on /mnt type vfat (rw) /dev/sda1 on /home/ve3sjv/Desktop type vfat (rw,uid=1000,gid=100) It definitely shows the drive is there. Took a look at computer--filesystem--mnt. It showed all five folders and when a folder was opened all files within are present. The folders show up as locked folders on the desktop. What I was expecting to see was a drive icon to show up on the desktop or at the very least show up as a 'named drive' under the 'computer' icon on the screen or under Places in the toolbar. My usb stick shows up as a named drive when installed. My 10G drive that I put into a USb external enclosure shows up as a named drive on the desktop -- The saga continues. John Hi John, are you having a private chat with yourself - or can any one join in? :-D What does #dpkg --get-selections | grep ntfs-3g give you? A little more information about your debian might be helpful... :-) Does it have a desktop? Does the desktop have a name? (xfce, kde, etc.) What class of processor are you running? (i386, amd64 etc.) Which debian? (lenny, sid, the one on my computer, etc.) Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c8b8bc4.5090...@gmail.com
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On 11/09/10 22:13, John Lindsay wrote: John Lindsay wrote: I just picked up an Iomega 2TB external USB drive. It is formatted NTSF. When plugged into my Win7 pc it is seen however it does not show up on screen under Debian (lenny). Is this drive supported? How can I get it seen by debian? John Well, success of sorts. I transfered folders from my debian system using Ubuntu live just to get something on it. Typed mount in a terminal window and it showed the following: /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) tmpfs on /lib/init/rw type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,mode=0755) proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755) tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=620) fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw) /dev/hdb on /new-disk type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) /dev/sda1 on /mnt type vfat (rw) /dev/sda1 on /home/ve3sjv/Desktop type vfat (rw,uid=1000,gid=100) It definitely shows the drive is there. Took a look at computer--filesystem--mnt. It showed all five folders and when a folder was opened all files within are present. The folders show up as locked folders on the desktop. What I was expecting to see was a drive icon to show up on the desktop or at the very least show up as a 'named drive' under the 'computer' icon on the screen or under Places in the toolbar. My usb stick shows up as a named drive when installed. My 10G drive that I put into a USb external enclosure shows up as a named drive on the desktop -- The saga continues. John On re-read John, I see that you have said Lenny (mea culpa). the output from mount that you posted shows a dos (fat32) filesystem on a removable USB device as mounted in /mnt and on your desktop (/home/ve3sjv/Desktop) - that'll be FUSE(?). Perhaps your drive is not formatted NTFS?? $df -h | grep /sda will tell you how large the drive is. #fdisk -l | grep /sd will show you any other USB drives - mounted or not. $lsusb might also probe useful. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c8ba07e.20...@gmail.com
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On Friday 10 September 2010 03:45:35 John Lindsay wrote: Still trying to find out what is available to enable the drive in Debian. Have you tried turning the icon on? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201009100800.45896.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
Lisi wrote: On Friday 10 September 2010 03:45:35 John Lindsay wrote: Still trying to find out what is available to enable the drive in Debian. Have you tried turning the icon on? Lisi Hi Lisa How do you turn it on? If I plug in a memory stick it automatically recognizes it and an icon appears on the desktop. I have a 10G harddrive that I removed from an old machine -- I made it into a portable USB drive -- if I plug it in -- an icon automatically appears. It's only debian that refuses to show the icon on the desktop. My 2nd machine that I use as a test machine had debian installed -- no icon. Run Ubuntu Live -- icon appears -- install Ubuntu Live -- icon appears. Install Linux mint 9 -- icon appears -- install Fedora 13 -- icon appears. In every case where the icon appears I can format it, partition it, read/write/move things -- I do have some other distros that I will try to see what happens but I suspect the icon will appear and the USB drive will appear as expected. Thanks for your reply. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c89fe8d.10...@sentex.net
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 05:46:53 -0400, John Lindsay wrote: Lisi wrote: On Friday 10 September 2010 03:45:35 John Lindsay wrote: Still trying to find out what is available to enable the drive in Debian. Have you tried turning the icon on? How do you turn it on? Did you already check this? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/09/msg00659.html If I plug in a memory stick it automatically recognizes it and an icon appears on the desktop. I have a 10G harddrive that I removed from an old machine -- I made it into a portable USB drive -- if I plug it in -- an icon automatically appears. It's only debian that refuses to show the icon on the desktop. My 2nd machine that I use as a test machine had debian installed -- no icon. Run Ubuntu Live -- icon appears -- install Ubuntu Live -- icon appears. Install Linux mint 9 -- icon appears -- install Fedora 13 -- icon appears. In every case where the icon appears I can format it, partition it, read/write/move things -- I do have some other distros that I will try to see what happens but I suspect the icon will appear and the USB drive will appear as expected. If you have the right GNOME settings and the icon still refuses to appear (I assume you let the 2 TiB disk some time until it gets mounted because is a big disk) you can just create a shortcut and put it on the desktop. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.09.10.10.31...@gmail.com
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On Friday 10 September 2010 10:46:53 John Lindsay wrote: Lisi wrote: On Friday 10 September 2010 03:45:35 John Lindsay wrote: Lisi Hi Lisa Hi, John, As you will see, my name is Lisi not Lisa. How do you turn it on? quote from me in this thread I have avoided saying anything so far as I don't know about Gnome, only KDE 3.x.x. But in KDE this would almost certainly be because of how the Desktop is configured - show the relevant icon or not show it. (configure desktop - Behaviour - device icons) Debian and Mint may have different defaults from each other. We have already established that Debian does see the drive - it just doesn't put an icon on the desktop. Presumably Gnome too has the capability. You just need to find it. /quote quote from Camaleón in this thread But I have setup GNOME to behave that way (g-conf editor → apps/nautilus/ desktop/volumes_visible [ ]). To enable, just select [x] that option and Volumes will show in desktop. /quote You do not say which desktop you are using, but it is likely to be Gnome as that is the Lenny default. If it is not, you need to say. But if it is Gnome or KDE, you have already been told what to do, but have ignored it. Whatever desktop you are using, it is likely to be a question of whether the icon is turned on or off, and only you can find it on your system to check. You can't expect to be given alternatives if you have still not tried what has already been suggested. Check whether Lenny turns the icon off by default, when some other distros have it on by default. If so, turn it on. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201009101647.36424.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
Just to update things--- Fired up second computer which is my test machine. Installed Ubuntu 10.04 and IOMEGA drive seen as a laptop icon immediately after turning it on. Was able to load/unload/move files with no problems. I then deleted partition, re formatted using fat. Unmounted drive and installed Fedora--- same results -- icon appears on desktop as soon as its powered up. Move/load/unload with no problems. Then moved to Debian Lenny --- had to mount the drive but icon did not appear on the desktop. Unmounted drive and ran the Ubuntu live disk and Iomega drive is seen on desktop shortly after powering up so I know it is not a faulty USB port and file transfer worked great. Still trying to find out what is available to enable the drive in Debian. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c899bcf.4010...@sentex.net
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On Wednesday 08 September 2010 03:24:06 John Lindsay wrote: With regards to the problem I am having getting this IOMEGA drive to be seen by my primary computer running Debian Lenny -- I deleted the partitions, recreated the partitions as ext3, then ext4 and finally ntsf . I then checked mstab after 'mount ./dev./sdb1 /mnt' after each change and it shows the drive is mounted. However it does not show up on the desktop. I have a test computer which had a debian 5,0 installed.so I unmounted the HDD from my main computer and plugged it in to my test computer. It showed as mounted but not on on the desktop. Since this is my test unit I installed Linux Mint 9. After the installation was complete I checked the drive. It was present. I can open it, transfer files, erase files and create and delete folders. I know it works on Mint -- for some reason debian refuses to show it on the desktop or in the computer folder. Thats how it stands -- very frustrating. I wanted to use it with either a USB hub or switch so I could use it as a storage drive for files etc. I'll continue to investigate it and see what happens. I have avoided saying anything so far as I don't know about Gnome, only KDE 3.x.x. But in KDE this would almost certainly be because of how the Desktop is configured - show the relevant icon or not show it. (configure desktop - Behaviour - device icons) Debian and Mint may have different defaults from each other. We have already established that Debian does see the drive - it just doesn't put an icon on the desktop. Presumably Gnome too has the capability. You just need to find it. If you had already said something about this, I find your emails illegible and can only pisk out a few bits, so I may have missed it. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201009080845.05809.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive - erratum
pick, not pisk :-( Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201009080854.19575.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:24:06 -0400, John Lindsay wrote: With regards to the problem I am having getting this IOMEGA drive to be seen by my primary computer running Debian Lenny -- I deleted the partitions, recreated the partitions as ext3, then ext4 and finally ntsf . I then checked mstab after 'mount ./dev./sdb1 /mnt' after each change and it shows the drive is mounted. (...) Is mounted but where? Being a USB unit it should be under /media unless it is defined in /etc/fstab and gets a static mount point. However it does not show up on the desktop. My USB flash drives neither :-) But I have setup GNOME to behave that way (g-conf editor → apps/nautilus/ desktop/volumes_visible [ ]). To enable, just select [x] that option and Volumes will show in desktop. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.09.08.11.13...@gmail.com
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On 09/06/2010 11:01 PM, John Lindsay wrote: Hi Celejar I tried 'mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt' as /sda1 returned drive does not exist. Using 'tail -F /var/log/syslog' when I try the mount command using /sdb1 returns - Sep 6 15:40:38 tux-net kernel: [119018.389495] sdb: sdb1 Sep 6 15:40:38 tux-net kernel: [119018.422500] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk Sep 6 15:40:38 tux-net NetworkManager: debug [1283802038.156908] nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_Iomega_E_xternal_HD_FAF0FDF1FFF1BF600914_0_0'). Sep 6 15:44:34 tux-net kernel: [119289.522770] NTFS volume version 3.1. Sep 6 15:44:34 tux-net kernel: [119289.538772] NTFS-fs error (device sdb1): load_system_files(): $LogFile is not clean. Mounting read-only. Mount in Windows. Sep 6 15:45:00 tux-net ntpd[3215]: synchronized to 132.246.168.148, stratum 2 Sep 6 15:47:15 tux-net ntpd[3215]: synchronized to 199.212.17.34, stratum 2 It shows a NTSF formatted omega drive. It states read only. This much I understand. I am taking a wild guess and thinking that it will show up a an external drive under 'wine' -- I could be totally wrong in that assumption. All the rest is information lost on me!!! The log says Mount in Windows. So, hook it on a windows machine and do a checkdisk on it. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:42:32 +0300, Γιώργος Πάλλας wrote: On 09/06/2010 11:01 PM, John Lindsay wrote: Sep 6 15:44:34 tux-net kernel: [119289.522770] NTFS volume version 3.1. Sep 6 15:44:34 tux-net kernel: [119289.538772] NTFS-fs error (device sdb1): load_system_files(): $LogFile is not clean. Mounting read-only. Mount in Windows. Sep 6 15:45:00 tux-net ntpd[3215]: synchronized to 132.246.168.148, stratum 2 Sep 6 15:47:15 tux-net ntpd[3215]: synchronized to 199.212.17.34, stratum 2 It shows a NTSF formatted omega drive. It states read only. This much I understand. I am taking a wild guess and thinking that it will show up a an external drive under 'wine' -- I could be totally wrong in that assumption. All the rest is information lost on me!!! The log says Mount in Windows. So, hook it on a windows machine and do a checkdisk on it. +1 The filesystem seems to be a bit messed up (and ntfs-3g driver is a bit picky with this), maybe due to a forced shutdown of the windows machine or USB cable disconnection without using the safely remove feature :-). The NTFS volume would require a scandisk and defrag, executed from windows host. After that, it should be mounted in linux without any hassle. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.09.07.17.03...@gmail.com
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
With regards to the problem I am having getting this IOMEGA drive to be seen by my primary computer running Debian Lenny -- I deleted the partitions, recreated the partitions as ext3, then ext4 and finally ntsf . I then checked mstab after 'mount ./dev./sdb1 /mnt' after each change and it shows the drive is mounted. However it does not show up on the desktop. I have a test computer which had a debian 5,0 installed.so I unmounted the HDD from my main computer and plugged it in to my test computer. It showed as mounted but not on on the desktop. Since this is my test unit I installed Linux Mint 9. After the installation was complete I checked the drive. It was present. I can open it, transfer files, erase files and create and delete folders. I know it works on Mint -- for some reason debian refuses to show it on the desktop or in the computer folder. Thats how it stands -- very frustrating. I wanted to use it with either a USB hub or switch so I could use it as a storage drive for files etc. I'll continue to investigate it and see what happens. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c86f3c6.3010...@sentex.net
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
I accidentally sent my reply to Celejar direct instead of to the list
so I am reposting it to the group. If my 'dmseg' is too long -- sorry
about that --
elejar wrote:
On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:22:04 -0400
John Lindsay jcl...@sentex.net wrote:
I just picked up an Iomega 2TB external USB drive. It is formatted
NTSF. When plugged into my Win7 pc it is seen however it does not
show up on screen under Debian (lenny). Is this drive supported? How
can I get it seen by debian?
You need to explain what you mean by show up on screen. What does
dmesg / syslog say?
Celejar
Hi Celejar and Boyd
I used synaptic to search for ntsf and installed it as it was unmarked.
I am using gnome as a desktop.
Celejar -- here is my dmesg -- first time I have used this -- I am
making the assumption that the latest info is at the bottom of the list
-- it looks like it is attached but I see no icon like I do when I plug
in a memory stick. It does not show up when I click on 'computer' under
places.
John
dmesg:
2086389.733663] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete
DataRequest }
[2086389.733669] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.733672] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.733712] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.733719] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.733724] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.733766] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.733773] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.733778] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.733852] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.733859] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.733864] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.733968] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.733975] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.733982] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.734056] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.734064] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.734069] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.734211] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.734219] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.734225] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.734580] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.734588] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.734597] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.734732] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.734740] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.734744] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.771899] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.771907] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.771912] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.771941] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.771945] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.771948] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.771976] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.771981] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.771984] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.772011] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.772016] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.772019] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.772022] hdc: weird block size 0
[2086389.772024] hdc: default to 2kb block size
[2086389.772051] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.772056] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.772058] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.772086] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.772090] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.772093] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.772121] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.772125] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.772128] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.772156] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.772161] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.772164] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.772191] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.772196] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.772199] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.772227] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.772232] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.772235] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.772262] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest }
[2086389.772267] ide: failed opcode was: unknown
[2086389.772270] hdc: drive not ready for command
[2086389.772298] hdc: status error: status=0x58 { DriveReady
SeekComplete DataRequest
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
I did it again; sending a reply to the sender rather than the group -- hopefully I will be more careful in future -- Bob Proulx wrote: John Lindsay wrote: I just picked up an Iomega 2TB external USB drive. It is formatted NTSF. When plugged into my Win7 pc it is seen however it does not show up on screen under Debian (lenny). Is this drive supported? How can I get it seen by debian? You need to be more specific in your question. Seen is such a terrible word in a technical sense. For me that would mean that the kernel's usb module detected it and logged it to /var/log/syslog. Please look at the activity in /var/log/syslog and report what is happening when you insert or remove the usb device. You're right. Seen is a terrible 'technical' word. I should have said 'no drive icon appears as it does when I install a 32g memory stick'. But I imagine that you are using a GNOME desktop environment (or a KDE desktop environment) and no icon is appearing on your desktop after plugging it in? Is that what is happening for you? Unfortunately with those it all depends upon what packages you have installed. (Personally I despise those types of happy extras and disable them on my machine so I won't be much help for you but at least it will identify the problem.) It doesn't mean that your machine isn't seeing the usb device. Do you have gnome-mount installed? $ dpkg -l gnome-mount This is what shows up when I 'dpkg -l gnome-mount'. It looks like it is installed. Whether that is the latest version or not -- haven't check that out yet. Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Inst/Cfg-files/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii gnome-mount0.7-2 wrapper for (un)mounting and ejecting storag ve3...@tux-net:~$ Summary: Both *before* and *after* inserting the usb device: $ cat /proc/partitions This is with the drive disconnected major minor #blocks name 3 0 78125000 hda 3 1 75473338 hda1 3 22650725 hda2 364 120060864 hdb This is with the drive connected--- major minor #blocks name 3 0 78125000 hda 3 1 75473338 hda1 3 22650725 hda2 364 120060864 hdb 8 0 1953514584 sda 8 1 1953512001 sda1 So it is there. I just cannot see an icon or access the drive. I don't know much about accessing drives from the command line and what little I know gets me into a lot of 'trouble' especially if I screw up the email (which I have done in the past and 'she who must be obeyed' was not to impressed!!! $ less /var/log/syslog Observing any differences will be clues to what is happening. Bob I did the last statement and there is way too much information for my ancient brain to make heads or tales over!!! What information am I looking for in this syslog? Is it at the beginning or end? John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c84c1d1.9020...@sentex.net
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:26:25 -0400 John Lindsay jcl...@sentex.net wrote: ... Summary: Both *before* and *after* inserting the usb device: $ cat /proc/partitions This is with the drive disconnected major minor #blocks name 3 0 78125000 hda 3 1 75473338 hda1 3 22650725 hda2 364 120060864 hdb This is with the drive connected--- major minor #blocks name 3 0 78125000 hda 3 1 75473338 hda1 3 22650725 hda2 364 120060864 hdb 8 0 1953514584 sda 8 1 1953512001 sda1 So it is there. I just cannot see an icon or access the drive. I don't Yes, it's there. sda is the drive, and sda1 is a partition on it. At this point, dmesg and syslog won't be as much use, since the kernel knows about the drive, and the problem is with the higher level tools. I don't use those tools, so I won't really be able to help; perhaps someone else will. know much about accessing drives from the command line and what little I know gets me into a lot of 'trouble' especially if I screw up the email (which I have done in the past and 'she who must be obeyed' was not to impressed!!! It's really just a matter of 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt' (as root). See if it works, and if not, report the errors (and syslog may help here). $ less /var/log/syslog Observing any differences will be clues to what is happening. Bob I did the last statement and there is way too much information for my ancient brain to make heads or tales over!!! What information am I looking for in this syslog? Is it at the beginning or end? The end. In linux, log messages are generally appended to the ends of files. What one generally does here is watch syslog, like so (from a console): 'tail -F /var/log/syslog' This will print the new lines to the screen as they are added to the file. So you start the 'tail' command, then do the 'mount' or whatever, and note what gets added. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100906091241.1fab067b.cele...@gmail.com
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
Hi Celejar I tried 'mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt' as /sda1 returned drive does not exist. Using 'tail -F /var/log/syslog' when I try the mount command using /sdb1 returns - Sep 6 15:40:38 tux-net kernel: [119018.389495] sdb: sdb1 Sep 6 15:40:38 tux-net kernel: [119018.422500] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk Sep 6 15:40:38 tux-net NetworkManager: debug [1283802038.156908] nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_Iomega_E_xternal_HD_FAF0FDF1FFF1BF600914_0_0'). Sep 6 15:44:34 tux-net kernel: [119289.522770] NTFS volume version 3.1. Sep 6 15:44:34 tux-net kernel: [119289.538772] NTFS-fs error (device sdb1): load_system_files(): $LogFile is not clean. Mounting read-only. Mount in Windows. Sep 6 15:45:00 tux-net ntpd[3215]: synchronized to 132.246.168.148, stratum 2 Sep 6 15:47:15 tux-net ntpd[3215]: synchronized to 199.212.17.34, stratum 2 It shows a NTSF formatted omega drive. It states read only. This much I understand. I am taking a wild guess and thinking that it will show up a an external drive under 'wine' -- I could be totally wrong in that assumption. All the rest is information lost on me!!! I thank you for your assistance. My expertise is in hardware repair not software/command line issues so please bear with me. John I -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c854887.4010...@sentex.net
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 16:01:11 -0400 John Lindsay jcl...@sentex.net wrote: Hi Celejar I tried 'mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt' as /sda1 returned drive does not exist. Using 'tail -F /var/log/syslog' when I try the mount command using /sdb1 returns - The drive can be assigned different letters by the kernel, depending on what else has already been seen by it when you plug it in. That's why in general, once you have things working, the recommended method is to mount by label or uuid. Sep 6 15:40:38 tux-net kernel: [119018.389495] sdb: sdb1 Sep 6 15:40:38 tux-net kernel: [119018.422500] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk Sep 6 15:40:38 tux-net NetworkManager: debug [1283802038.156908] nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_serial_Iomega_E_xternal_HD_FAF0FDF1FFF1BF600914_0_0'). Sep 6 15:44:34 tux-net kernel: [119289.522770] NTFS volume version 3.1. Sep 6 15:44:34 tux-net kernel: [119289.538772] NTFS-fs error (device sdb1): load_system_files(): $LogFile is not clean. Mounting read-only. Mount in Windows. Sep 6 15:45:00 tux-net ntpd[3215]: synchronized to 132.246.168.148, stratum 2 Sep 6 15:47:15 tux-net ntpd[3215]: synchronized to 199.212.17.34, stratum 2 It shows a NTSF formatted omega drive. It states read only. This much I understand. I am taking a wild guess and thinking that it will show up a an external drive under 'wine' -- I could be totally wrong in that assumption. It may or it may not, but we're not interested in that. Since the mount seems to have worked, you now need to look at /mnt using your favorite file manager - anything from 'ls' to 'mc' to Nautilus, Thunar, etc. All the rest is information lost on me!!! Don't know much about NTFS, but IIRC, the linux support (in particular the vanilla in-kernel support) in incomplete, and insufficient for certain repair operations, which is why you're being told to mount in Windows, so that OS can do some housekeeping. Don't know how serious such a message is likely to be, but if you're only mounting read-only, you probably don't have much to lose. Famous last words - don't hold me to them! I thank you for your assistance. My expertise is in hardware repair not software/command line issues so please bear with me. Good luck, and report back on your findings (even a simple 'ls /mnt' will be useful for a start). Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100906202646.e4b27ac9.cele...@gmail.com
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
Hi Celelar Just going through 'applications-Debian-applications-system-administration' and started up 'gnome partition editor'. It showed me that its file system is ntsf; its mountpoint is /mnt; its label is IOMEGA HDD; total size is 1.82TB and I have used 61.37 GB. It is mounted -- but not visible on the desktop. I first used it to backup my win7 drive -- I wonder if I were to repartition it would it then be visible to the desktop? The data that is on the drive is just a backup of my win7 and of no real concern at this time. John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c85a1f3.5090...@sentex.net
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:22:43 -0400 John Lindsay jcl...@sentex.net wrote: Hi Celelar Just going through 'applications-Debian-applications-system-administration' and started up 'gnome partition editor'. It showed me that its file system is ntsf; its mountpoint is /mnt; its label is IOMEGA HDD; total size is 1.82TB and I have used 61.37 GB. It is mounted -- but not visible on the desktop. I first used it to backup my win7 drive -- I wonder if I were to repartition it would it then be visible to the desktop? The data that is on the drive is just a backup of my win7 and of no real concern at this time. I can't help you with desktop stuff, since I do all my mounting and file-management via cli / tui (mc) tools. I have no idea if repartitioning would make a difference, but it seems rather a drastic step for such a simple thing as desktop visibility. Sorry I can't help with the desktop stuff. I still recommend you check if the data is there and accessible. This way, if you repost the question, you'll be able to say exactly what works and what doesn't. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100906232552.0ae6ae93.cele...@gmail.com
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On 9/6/2010 9:22 PM, John Lindsay wrote: Hi Celelar Just going through 'applications-Debian-applications-system-administration' and started up 'gnome partition editor'. It showed me that its file system is ntsf; its mountpoint is /mnt; its label is IOMEGA HDD; total size is 1.82TB and I have used 61.37 GB. It is mounted -- but not visible on the desktop. I first used it to backup my win7 drive -- I wonder if I were to repartition it would it then be visible to the desktop? The data that is on the drive is just a backup of my win7 and of no real concern at this time. John It may help a little to change the label to something not containing a whitespace character. This may not be the source of your problem, but it could be a cause of other problems. The architects of the *nixes never really planned for spaces inside file names, I think. You can use them, but some programs may be confused by them. Better to avoid it by using hyphens, dots, and underscores. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c85b830.4010...@allums.com
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
John Lindsay wrote: I just picked up an Iomega 2TB external USB drive. It is formatted NTSF. When plugged into my Win7 pc it is seen however it does not show up on screen under Debian (lenny). Is this drive supported? How can I get it seen by debian? You need to be more specific in your question. Seen is such a terrible word in a technical sense. For me that would mean that the kernel's usb module detected it and logged it to /var/log/syslog. Please look at the activity in /var/log/syslog and report what is happening when you insert or remove the usb device. But I imagine that you are using a GNOME desktop environment (or a KDE desktop environment) and no icon is appearing on your desktop after plugging it in? Is that what is happening for you? Unfortunately with those it all depends upon what packages you have installed. (Personally I despise those types of happy extras and disable them on my machine so I won't be much help for you but at least it will identify the problem.) It doesn't mean that your machine isn't seeing the usb device. Do you have gnome-mount installed? $ dpkg -l gnome-mount Summary: Both *before* and *after* inserting the usb device: $ cat /proc/partitions $ less /var/log/syslog Observing any differences will be clues to what is happening. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
[Please reply to the list, and not to me personally, as per the CoC.] On Sun, 05 Sep 2010 10:21:38 -0400 John Lindsay jcl...@sentex.net wrote: Celejar wrote: On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:22:04 -0400 John Lindsay jcl...@sentex.net wrote: I just picked up an Iomega 2TB external USB drive. It is formatted NTSF. When plugged into my Win7 pc it is seen however it does not show up on screen under Debian (lenny). Is this drive supported? How can I get it seen by debian? You need to explain what you mean by show up on screen. What does dmesg / syslog say? Celejar Hi Celejar and Boyd I used synaptic to search for ntsf and installed it as it was unmarked. I am using gnome as a desktop. Celejar -- here is my dmesg -- first time I have used this -- I am making the assumption that the latest info is at the bottom of the list Correct. -- it looks like it is attached but I see no icon like I do when I plug in a memory stick. It does not show up when I click on 'computer' under places. I don't know anything about the desktop icons and such. You should try to mount it from the CLI, with something like (as root) 'mount /dev/sda1 /mnt' and see what happens. If it doesn't work, report the error messages and syslog / dmesg. -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100905150252.af643332.cele...@gmail.com
iomega 2TB external USB drive
I just picked up an Iomega 2TB external USB drive. It is formatted NTSF. When plugged into my Win7 pc it is seen however it does not show up on screen under Debian (lenny). Is this drive supported? How can I get it seen by debian? John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c82fecc.5030...@sentex.net
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:22:04 -0400 John Lindsay jcl...@sentex.net wrote: I just picked up an Iomega 2TB external USB drive. It is formatted NTSF. When plugged into my Win7 pc it is seen however it does not show up on screen under Debian (lenny). Is this drive supported? How can I get it seen by debian? You need to explain what you mean by show up on screen. What does dmesg / syslog say? Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100904232529.6eb35af5.cele...@gmail.com
Re: iomega 2TB external USB drive
On Saturday 04 September 2010 21:22:04 John Lindsay wrote: I just picked up an Iomega 2TB external USB drive. It is formatted NTSF. When plugged into my Win7 pc it is seen however it does not show up on screen under Debian (lenny). Is this drive supported? How can I get it seen by debian? Make sure you install ntfs-3g -- the basic NTFS driver in the kernel does not have high-quality write support. If you want a pop-up notification when you plug the drive in, (and possibly auto-mounting) make sure you choose a feature-complete desktop environment like Gnome or KDE SC. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
