Re: ircii question

2008-05-07 Thread Rich Healey
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Håkon Alstadheim wrote:
 s. keeling wrote:
 Jude DaShiell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
  What package or packages need to be installed so when I connect to
 an irc  server I don't get the message Ident is disabled?
 

 pidentd


   
 I would also think something like inetd or xinetd would be good. Identd
 should not need to run all the time, letting (x)inetd fire it up as
 needed would be better.
 
 Hot tip: consider carefully how much you reveal about your machine
 through the ident service.
 

Security through obscurity is now offically dead.

If someone wants access to your box, because of the absurd bandwidth
available to a cracker (botnet, anyone?), they'll just try every xploit
in their db, regardless of it's compatibility with your alleged system.

You might as well just have ident running, I forward 113 onto my fBSD
machine, so my whole network appears to be 6.2-current (yes i'm too lazy
to upgrade)
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Re: ircii question

2008-05-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, May 07, 2008 at 04:12:56PM +1000, Rich Healey wrote:
 If someone wants access to your box, because of the absurd bandwidth
 available to a cracker (botnet, anyone?), they'll just try every xploit
 in their db, regardless of it's compatibility with your alleged system.

Sure, but how often do they want it *that* bad, when there are heaps of
insecure Windows machines out there with a *combined* bandwidth
rivalling anything that any single entity would have.

 You might as well just have ident running, I forward 113 onto my fBSD
 machine, so my whole network appears to be 6.2-current (yes i'm too lazy

Hey, there's no need to give them a helping hand.

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Re: ircii question

2008-05-06 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 03:40:42PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote:

 Indeed that can be a problem. I have pidentd disabled, but I can use IRC 
 because I've opened port 113 (auth/ident) in my firewall. If the port is 
 closed but accessible, most IRC servers will allow the connection.

This is the default for shorewall. Now I understand why I never had 
troubles with ident.

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Andrei
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ircii question

2008-05-02 Thread Jude DaShiell
What package or packages need to be installed so when I connect to an irc 
server I don't get the message Ident is disabled?




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Re: ircii question

2008-05-02 Thread s. keeling
Jude DaShiell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  What package or packages need to be installed so when I connect to an irc 
  server I don't get the message Ident is disabled?

pidentd


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Re: ircii question

2008-05-02 Thread Håkon Alstadheim

s. keeling wrote:

Jude DaShiell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  
 What package or packages need to be installed so when I connect to an irc 
 server I don't get the message Ident is disabled?



pidentd


  
I would also think something like inetd or xinetd would be good. Identd 
should not need to run all the time, letting (x)inetd fire it up as 
needed would be better.


Hot tip: consider carefully how much you reveal about your machine 
through the ident service.


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Re: ircii question

2008-05-02 Thread Mumia W..

On 05/02/2008 01:16 PM, Håkon Alstadheim wrote:

s. keeling wrote:

Jude DaShiell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 What package or packages need to be installed so when I connect to 
an irc  server I don't get the message Ident is disabled?



pidentd


  
I would also think something like inetd or xinetd would be good. Identd 
should not need to run all the time, letting (x)inetd fire it up as 
needed would be better.


Hot tip: consider carefully how much you reveal about your machine 
through the ident service.




Indeed that can be a problem. I have pidentd disabled, but I can use IRC 
because I've opened port 113 (auth/ident) in my firewall. If the port is 
closed but accessible, most IRC servers will allow the connection.




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Re: ircii question

2008-05-02 Thread s. keeling
Håkon Alstadheim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  s. keeling wrote:
  Jude DaShiell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

   What package or packages need to be installed so when I connect
   to an irc server I don't get the message Ident is disabled?
 
  pidentd
 
  I would also think something like inetd or xinetd would be good. Identd 
  should not need to run all the time, letting (x)inetd fire it up as 
  needed would be better.

identd is not a very fat app, but you're right.

  Hot tip: consider carefully how much you reveal about your machine 
  through the ident service.

And another one: just lie.  Run fauxident instead and have it tell the
requestor any damn fool thing you please.  In my experience (IRC or
CVS servers), this has no repurcussions.  The requestors apparently
just want an ACK.  They don't appear to care whether it's factually
accurate or not.  Runs fine by inetd too.


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