Re: md5sums and shasums
On Sunday 05 April 2015 09:46:49 Brian wrote: On Sun 05 Apr 2015 at 07:33:18 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20150404_2240+0200, deloptes wrote: Paul E Condon wrote: This is a place where Debian is really not newbie friendly. I think it never aimed to be - therefore you have ubuntu ... at least my feeling In the present, Debian relies on Ubuntu, but there are still short passages of text in our web site that remind me of a earlier time. A time before Ubuntu existed. Oh, well ... Ubuntu did is all a favour by choosing to be based on Debian. Its affect and influence have been largely beneficial. But there is always someone with a moan. Oh, well ... +10 or more Brian. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504051118.10599.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: md5sums and shasums
On 20150404_2240+0200, deloptes wrote: Paul E Condon wrote: This is a place where Debian is really not newbie friendly. I think it never aimed to be - therefore you have ubuntu ... at least my feeling In the present, Debian relies on Ubuntu, but there are still short passages of text in our web site that remind me of a earlier time. A time before Ubuntu existed. Oh, well ... Best regards, -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150405133318.ga8...@big.lan.gnu
Re: md5sums and shasums
On Sun 05 Apr 2015 at 07:33:18 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20150404_2240+0200, deloptes wrote: Paul E Condon wrote: This is a place where Debian is really not newbie friendly. I think it never aimed to be - therefore you have ubuntu ... at least my feeling In the present, Debian relies on Ubuntu, but there are still short passages of text in our web site that remind me of a earlier time. A time before Ubuntu existed. Oh, well ... Ubuntu did is all a favour by choosing to be based on Debian. Its affect and influence have been largely beneficial. But there is always someone with a moan. Oh, well ... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/05042015144308.8e492cf94...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: md5sums and shasums
Hi. On Sat, 4 Apr 2015 11:16:30 +0100 Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 21:51:54 -0600 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: On 20150403_2316+0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: Can any kind soul take pity on my less than perfect sight and tell me where to find the md5sums and shasums for these downloads? A URL would be great. I just can't find them. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? Thanks Lisi I asked that a not long ago, when RC 2 was announced. It's right in sight and very inconvenient to use: You click of the hot link for the cpu type the you want and up pops a pup-up. Look at it carefully. There is a url of a web site in Sweden, I think. clicking on it is not effective. You enter the url displayed inside to popup manually into the menubar, one key stroke at a time. If you get it right, you will see a list of hot links. Third one, 'cdimage' will take you to the md5 sha sums. This is a place where Debian is really not newbie friendly. If one is a conscientious newbie, you have read all the fine words about using wget and *never* using a browser to download .iso files, but not a word about what to type at the command line to make wget go to where the goodies are. I kind of wish Debian would support Metalink files for the downloads. A Metalink file is a text file which details all the mirror locations for the download (including, I think, location information, so you can pick closer mirrors) - which may be HTTP(S), BitTorrent, Magnet, RSync etc - as well as any number of hashes on the download (MD5, SHAxxx, PGP etc). If Metalink files were supplied, then people would have the best chance of quickly getting the right file. Does this Metalink thing support checking GPG signatures of files? The whole complexity doesn't arise from the fact that one should check hashes of downloaded ISOs. That's easy part. The hard part is doing it correctly, which requires to check GPG signature of the checksum file itself first. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150404140748.9e42ced1b5d64703bfc7d...@gmail.com
Re: md5sums and shasums
On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 21:51:54 -0600 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: On 20150403_2316+0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: Can any kind soul take pity on my less than perfect sight and tell me where to find the md5sums and shasums for these downloads? A URL would be great. I just can't find them. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? Thanks Lisi I asked that a not long ago, when RC 2 was announced. It's right in sight and very inconvenient to use: You click of the hot link for the cpu type the you want and up pops a pup-up. Look at it carefully. There is a url of a web site in Sweden, I think. clicking on it is not effective. You enter the url displayed inside to popup manually into the menubar, one key stroke at a time. If you get it right, you will see a list of hot links. Third one, 'cdimage' will take you to the md5 sha sums. This is a place where Debian is really not newbie friendly. If one is a conscientious newbie, you have read all the fine words about using wget and *never* using a browser to download .iso files, but not a word about what to type at the command line to make wget go to where the goodies are. I kind of wish Debian would support Metalink files for the downloads. A Metalink file is a text file which details all the mirror locations for the download (including, I think, location information, so you can pick closer mirrors) - which may be HTTP(S), BitTorrent, Magnet, RSync etc - as well as any number of hashes on the download (MD5, SHAxxx, PGP etc). If Metalink files were supplied, then people would have the best chance of quickly getting the right file. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150404111630.1f7f1...@rocky.darac.org.uk
Re: md5sums and shasums
On Sat, 4 Apr 2015 14:07:48 +0300 Reco recovery...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. On Sat, 4 Apr 2015 11:16:30 +0100 Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 21:51:54 -0600 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net wrote: On 20150403_2316+0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: Can any kind soul take pity on my less than perfect sight and tell me where to find the md5sums and shasums for these downloads? A URL would be great. I just can't find them. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? Thanks Lisi I asked that a not long ago, when RC 2 was announced. It's right in sight and very inconvenient to use: You click of the hot link for the cpu type the you want and up pops a pup-up. Look at it carefully. There is a url of a web site in Sweden, I think. clicking on it is not effective. You enter the url displayed inside to popup manually into the menubar, one key stroke at a time. If you get it right, you will see a list of hot links. Third one, 'cdimage' will take you to the md5 sha sums. This is a place where Debian is really not newbie friendly. If one is a conscientious newbie, you have read all the fine words about using wget and *never* using a browser to download .iso files, but not a word about what to type at the command line to make wget go to where the goodies are. I kind of wish Debian would support Metalink files for the downloads. A Metalink file is a text file which details all the mirror locations for the download (including, I think, location information, so you can pick closer mirrors) - which may be HTTP(S), BitTorrent, Magnet, RSync etc - as well as any number of hashes on the download (MD5, SHAxxx, PGP etc). If Metalink files were supplied, then people would have the best chance of quickly getting the right file. Does this Metalink thing support checking GPG signatures of files? The whole complexity doesn't arise from the fact that one should check hashes of downloaded ISOs. That's easy part. The hard part is doing it correctly, which requires to check GPG signature of the checksum file itself first. Yep. Section 4.2.13 of RFC 5854 describes a signature tag which encloses an inline signature (the type of signature is not specified, but an example is shown of an OpenPGP signature. Section 7.1 of the same document additionally covers how the Metalink itself can be signed. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150404173412.0d625...@rocky.darac.org.uk
Re: md5sums and shasums
Paul E Condon wrote: This is a place where Debian is really not newbie friendly. I think it never aimed to be - therefore you have ubuntu ... at least my feeling -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/mfpi7u$b9b$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: md5sums and shasums
Lisi Reisz wrote: Can any kind soul take pity on my less than perfect sight and tell me where to find the md5sums and shasums for these downloads? A URL would be great. I just can't find them. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? That is a little difficult! But here they are for amd64. Replace that with your desired architecture. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/jessie_di_rc2/amd64/iso-cd/ Here is how I arrived there. I know the sums are stored next to the isos in the same directory. I right-clicked on the link. Then I pasted it into the location bar of the browser. Then I removed the filename portion backing up to the directory. That left the above directory in the url and it dipsplays the SUMS files and signature files for the entire directory. There is no link to the sums from that page. There is only the note describing the process this way: For CD and DVD images, an MD5SUMS file is available in the same directory as the images. I daresay that isn't as convenient as having a direct link. An alternative is to know that you can find all in the directory tree below this location. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ Hope that helps! Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
md5sums and shasums
Can any kind soul take pity on my less than perfect sight and tell me where to find the md5sums and shasums for these downloads? A URL would be great. I just can't find them. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? Thanks Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504032316.45548.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: md5sums and shasums
Hi. On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 23:16:45 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Can any kind soul take pity on my less than perfect sight and tell me where to find the md5sums and shasums for these downloads? A URL would be great. I just can't find them. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? It ain't listed on that site, but, if you go here, for example - they'll be there (basically, substract the filename from the download link): http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/jessie_di_rc2/amd64/iso-cd/ You should see MD5SUM, SHA1SUM, SHA256SUM and SHA512SUM files. Those files aren't enough actually, as you need appropriate .sign files too to verify those SUM files. So, basically you'll need to: get the needed iso and sum files gpg --recv-keys 6294BE9B gpg --verify SHA512SUMS.sign SHA512SUMS # or any other sum file sha512sum -c SHA512SUMS Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150404013556.1165cba750844be043748...@gmail.com
Re: md5sums and shasums
On Friday 03 April 2015 23:27:06 Bob Proulx wrote: Here is how I arrived there. I know the sums are stored next to the isos in the same directory. I right-clicked on the link. Then I pasted it into the location bar of the browser. Then I removed the filename portion backing up to the directory. That left the above directory in the url and it dipsplays the SUMS files and signature files for the entire directory. There is no link to the sums from that page. There is only the note describing the process this way: For CD and DVD images, an MD5SUMS file is available in the same directory as the images. Thank you, Bob. That is very helpful. Today I simply couldn't find For CD and DVD images, an MD5SUMS file is available in the same directory as the images. I have better times and worse times with my eyes. But even when I could see it the other day, I couldn't find the sums. I followed your instructions from the page just now, and there they were. I am presumably not savvy enough in the eyes of the developers to be using Jessie. I'm certainly not savvy enough to have succeeded in finding the sums without your help. I daresay that isn't as convenient as having a direct link. It isn't that it isn't as convenient, it isn't useful to those of us who are less well informed. I did try, and it didn't help me find anything because I didn't understand well enough. So thank you very much. The installation I am about to do will be the first Jessie installation I have done whose CD I have managed to check. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504032342.06612.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: md5sums and shasums
On 20150403_2316+0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: Can any kind soul take pity on my less than perfect sight and tell me where to find the md5sums and shasums for these downloads? A URL would be great. I just can't find them. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? Thanks Lisi I asked that a not long ago, when RC 2 was announced. It's right in sight and very inconvenient to use: You click of the hot link for the cpu type the you want and up pops a pup-up. Look at it carefully. There is a url of a web site in Sweden, I think. clicking on it is not effective. You enter the url displayed inside to popup manually into the menubar, one key stroke at a time. If you get it right, you will see a list of hot links. Third one, 'cdimage' will take you to the md5 sha sums. This is a place where Debian is really not newbie friendly. If one is a conscientious newbie, you have read all the fine words about using wget and *never* using a browser to download .iso files, but not a word about what to type at the command line to make wget go to where the goodies are. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150404035154.ga17...@big.lan.gnu
Re: md5sums and shasums
On Friday 03 April 2015 23:35:56 Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 23:16:45 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Can any kind soul take pity on my less than perfect sight and tell me where to find the md5sums and shasums for these downloads? A URL would be great. I just can't find them. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/? It ain't listed on that site, but, if you go here, for example - they'll be there (basically, substract the filename from the download link): http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/jessie_di_rc2/amd64/iso-cd/ You should see MD5SUM, SHA1SUM, SHA256SUM and SHA512SUM files. Those files aren't enough actually, as you need appropriate .sign files too to verify those SUM files. So, basically you'll need to: get the needed iso and sum files gpg --recv-keys 6294BE9B gpg --verify SHA512SUMS.sign SHA512SUMS # or any other sum file sha512sum -c SHA512SUMS Thanks, Reco! Much appreciated. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201504040007.28687.lisi.re...@gmail.com
