Re: udisks and devices [was cannot mount floppy]
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 23:17 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:49:06 -0400 (EDT), Tomas Kral wrote:
Just finding my way around with udisks.
Read man pages, but I could not find any docs in /usr/share/doc/udisks
tcat@lynx:~$ udisks --inhibit-polling /dev/fd0
Inhibit polling failed: Media detection cannot be inhibited
Floppy polling cannot be inhibited as it seems.
I looked for a user configuration file, could not find any
There is only a rule file /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules
Where in, floppy is set as,
...
# PC floppy drives
#
KERNEL==fd*, ENV{ID_DRIVE_FLOPPY}=1
...
Still not any wiser about udisks
I just tried it myself. This seems to work with a CD-ROM drive,
but fails with a floppy drive, as you discovered.
Is there some specific task that you are trying to accomplish?
Are you able to mount and unmount floppy disks using the udisks
command?
Or are you just trying to learn more about udisks? If so,
here are some sources of information:
man 1 udisks
man 7 udisks
man polkit
man udisks-daemon
man udisks-tcp-bridge
/usr/share/doc/udisks/*
Separate Debian package udisks-doc
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/udisks
HTH
Without much knowing what I was actually doing
I just set it to 0
# PC floppy drives
#
KERNEL==fd*, ENV{ID_DRIVE_FLOPPY}=0
Voila, I can do
$ mount /floppy
$ umount /floppy
I can also under Computer desktop folder, double-click
on floppy icon, it gets mounted, right mouse button has got context menu
mount / unmount / and format
Only quick format, size (density), label, etc are missing (these were
the options of gfloppy tool)
All the rest seems back to normal.
Also I'd much prefer gparted to default gnome-disk-utility
On Lenny, right/mouse/clicked properties tab was showing these
pie-charts of disk usage, not sure how to get this to Squeeze.
Of course I can always use du (disk usage) command
Many thanks
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udisks and devices [was cannot mount floppy]
On Sun, 2011-07-17 at 14:36 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:58:27 -0400 (EDT), Tomas Kral wrote:
On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 15:40 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote:
...
Issue man udisks for more information.
Yes, this one did the trick...
tcat@lynx:~$ udisks --mount /dev/fd0
Mounted /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/fd0 at /media/floppy0
Thanks a lot.
Is it possible to make mount aware of UDisks/devices/fd0 and the like?
Remember, mount was here first,
and udisks is a recent thing. Under the covers, udisks is no doubt
calling mount. The problem arose because makers of graphical
desktop environments, such as GNOME, wanted devices to mount
automatically, just like Windows. So they came up with this
udisks daemon to try to emulate Windows behavior. And the udisks
daemon causes problems for those who are used to doing manual mounts
with the Linux mount command. I'm reasonably sure that the attitude
of the people who support the mount and umount commands will be,
Hey, our stuff works as designed, just as it always did. The
udisks people broke it, and the udisks people should fix it.
The udisks daemon and the udisks command do provide useful function,
but not in a totally forward-compatible way. Sometimes they
interfere with stuff that used to work. An example is apt-cdrom
and aptitude or apt-get when processing mountable media. You
may be able to get the desired behavior by using the --inhibit-polling
option of the udisks command in a separate window to temporarily
disable polling by the udisks daemon while you run older software
that is incompatible with the udisks behavior
Just finding my way around with udisks.
Read man pages, but I could not find any docs in /usr/share/doc/udisks
tcat@lynx:~$ udisks --inhibit-polling /dev/fd0
Inhibit polling failed: Media detection cannot be inhibited
Floppy polling cannot be inhibited as it seems.
I looked for a user configuration file, could not find any
There is only a rule file /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules
Where in, floppy is set as,
...
# PC floppy drives
#
KERNEL==fd*, ENV{ID_DRIVE_FLOPPY}=1
...
Still not any wiser about udisks
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Re: udisks and devices [was cannot mount floppy]
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:49:06 -0400 (EDT), Tomas Kral wrote:
Just finding my way around with udisks.
Read man pages, but I could not find any docs in /usr/share/doc/udisks
tcat@lynx:~$ udisks --inhibit-polling /dev/fd0
Inhibit polling failed: Media detection cannot be inhibited
Floppy polling cannot be inhibited as it seems.
I looked for a user configuration file, could not find any
There is only a rule file /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules
Where in, floppy is set as,
...
# PC floppy drives
#
KERNEL==fd*, ENV{ID_DRIVE_FLOPPY}=1
...
Still not any wiser about udisks
I just tried it myself. This seems to work with a CD-ROM drive,
but fails with a floppy drive, as you discovered.
Is there some specific task that you are trying to accomplish?
Are you able to mount and unmount floppy disks using the udisks
command?
Or are you just trying to learn more about udisks? If so,
here are some sources of information:
man 1 udisks
man 7 udisks
man polkit
man udisks-daemon
man udisks-tcp-bridge
/usr/share/doc/udisks/*
Separate Debian package udisks-doc
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/udisks
HTH
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Re^2: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
* From: Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net * Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:59:35 -0400 (EDT) Why not download mtools and then try mdir a:/ and then try man mtools? Even if floppy disks were inserted after booting I've been able to access them using mtools in the past. Thanks I'll try it, ... Peter E. P.S. Made the bios updater diskette in ETHNO but updating the BIOS on the Foxconn board didn't help. Setting the kernel parameter reboot=bios did. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056984.35152.26537@heaviside.invalid
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* From: peasth...@shaw.ca * Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:56:47 -0800 ... UTF8 ... Correct spelling is UTF-8, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056984.35440.26538@heaviside.invalid
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 11:56:47 -0800, Peter Easthope wrote: Bob, Camaleon, Dom, Stephen, Tom others, I am replying to the last message I found in the thread. If there is one later, I didn't ignore it deliberately. * From: Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com * Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 22:21:13 -0500 (EST) No, the data is intact, as the mounting of the image file with the loop option confirms. Also, further experimentation seems to suggest that if the floppy disk is physically mounted in the floppy drive during boot, then I can logically mount it with the mount command after boot. This really is looking like a bug. I intend to file a bug report, but I'd like to do some more trial-and-error experimentation before I do. This is relevant. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=483781 The best explanation appears to be cited by A.E. Patrakov in the bug report. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.3/chapter08/fstab.html Scroll to the bottom of the page and read Filesystems with MS-DOS My encounter with this has been an attempt to make a bootable diskette for updating the BIOS on a Foxconn board. Did Foxconn have their filesystem mounted with UTF8 and the US codepage? If they used strictly ASCII filenames, are the encoding and codepage a concern? [Use MS or have more trouble than bargained for ... again!] Regards, ... Peter E. First of all, I accidentally deleted your e-mail, and my MUA does not allow me to edit the headers to add an In-reply-to header; so this reply may not be properly connected to your thread in the archives. Sorry about that. Second, thank you for responding. Third, there was more to that original thread. But I can't find it either. Maybe I accidentally replied off-list? Anyway, the resolution to my original thread was udisks. I run GNOME, and GNOME has a udisks daemon that tries to automatically mount things like USB thumb drives, CD-ROM disks, and yes, floppy disks, when they are inserted. I was able to work around the problem by using the udisks command to mount and unmount floppy disks instead of the native mount and umount commands. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1806358399.74644.1303352679315.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
Bob, Camaleon, Dom, Stephen, Tom others, I am replying to the last message I found in the thread. If there is one later, I didn't ignore it deliberately. * From: Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com * Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 22:21:13 -0500 (EST) No, the data is intact, as the mounting of the image file with the loop option confirms. Also, further experimentation seems to suggest that if the floppy disk is physically mounted in the floppy drive during boot, then I can logically mount it with the mount command after boot. This really is looking like a bug. I intend to file a bug report, but I'd like to do some more trial-and-error experimentation before I do. This is relevant. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=483781 The best explanation appears to be cited by A.E. Patrakov in the bug report. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.3/chapter08/fstab.html Scroll to the bottom of the page and read Filesystems with MS-DOS My encounter with this has been an attempt to make a bootable diskette for updating the BIOS on a Foxconn board. Did Foxconn have their filesystem mounted with UTF8 and the US codepage? If they used strictly ASCII filenames, are the encoding and codepage a concern? [Use MS or have more trouble than bargained for ... again!] Regards, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. bcc: peasthope at shaw.ca Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056975.48687.42143@cantor.invalid
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
Why not download mtools and then try mdir a:/ and then try man mtools? Even if floppy disks were inserted after booting I've been able to access them using mtools in the past. On Fri, 15 Apr 2011, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Bob, Camaleon, Dom, Stephen, Tom others, I am replying to the last message I found in the thread. If there is one later, I didn't ignore it deliberately. * From: Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com * Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 22:21:13 -0500 (EST) No, the data is intact, as the mounting of the image file with the loop option confirms. Also, further experimentation seems to suggest that if the floppy disk is physically mounted in the floppy drive during boot, then I can logically mount it with the mount command after boot. This really is looking like a bug. I intend to file a bug report, but I'd like to do some more trial-and-error experimentation before I do. This is relevant. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=483781 The best explanation appears to be cited by A.E. Patrakov in the bug report. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/6.3/chapter08/fstab.html Scroll to the bottom of the page and read Filesystems with MS-DOS My encounter with this has been an attempt to make a bootable diskette for updating the BIOS on a Foxconn board. Did Foxconn have their filesystem mounted with UTF8 and the US codepage? If they used strictly ASCII filenames, are the encoding and codepage a concern? [Use MS or have more trouble than bargained for ... again!] Regards, ... Peter E. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.00.1104151757460.31...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
Re: [SOLVED] Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 22:28:52 -0500 (EST), Tom H wrote: On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: ... I have been able to circumvent the problem by commenting out the following entries in /etc/fstab and rebooting: /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd1 /media/floppy1 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 Now only root can mount and umount floppies. Since GNOME does not run with root privileges, it can't mess me up. was to keep the above lines in /etc/fstab and mount floppies with udisks --mount /dev/fdX. That works, Tom. Thanks! And of course the corresponding udisks --unmount /dev/fdX command unmounts the floppy. It appears that udisks has taken over the mounting and unmounting of removable-media devices just like network manager has taken over network devices. I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto. You're welcome. Definitely not Kansas; probably more like Mars, especially since udisks was called devkit-disks not long ago so we're being kept on our toes... (I presume that the u comes from udev but it's a total WAG.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinp6r4ustcshyjd-kmnjmj5plr+ijbp5nxpr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [SOLVED] Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
On Sat, 11 Dec 2010 22:28:52 -0500 (EST), Tom H wrote: On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: ... I have been able to circumvent the problem by commenting out the following entries in /etc/fstab and rebooting: /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd1 /media/floppy1 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 Now only root can mount and umount floppies. Since GNOME does not run with root privileges, it can't mess me up. I've been systematically deleting the emails in this thread unread. I was about to do the same with this one when I remembered a Ubuntu-users thread/rant about floppies where the apparent solution was to keep the above lines in /etc/fstab and mount floppies with udisks --mount /dev/fdX. Since Ubuntu's based on a mix of testing and unstable and uses the Debian udisks package without ubuntufying it... That works, Tom. Thanks! And of course the corresponding udisks --unmount /dev/fdX command unmounts the floppy. It appears that udisks has taken over the mounting and unmounting of removable-media devices just like network manager has taken over network devices. I don't think we're in Kansas anymore, Toto. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/756185743.1198334.1292883195645.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:11:40 -0500 (EST), Stephen Powell wrote: I don't know. My computer does not have a USB floppy drive, that's true. It is a traditional AT-style floppy disk controller with two floppy drives. And I can no longer reproduce the problem. Having a floppy disk in the drive at boot time just once seems to have permanently cured the problem. Did a udev rule get created as a result of a ready floppy drive at boot time? I don't know. But I don't think there's much point in filing a bug report if I can no longer reproduce the problem and I don't know what cured it. I spoke too soon. The problem has recurred. After some more trial- and-error experimentation, the problem now seems to be GNOME-related. I can mount and umount the floppy disk UNTIL I logon to GNOME. Then, things go haywire. I have been able to circumvent the problem by commenting out the following entries in /etc/fstab and rebooting: /dev/fd0/media/floppy0 autorw,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd1/media/floppy1 autorw,user,noauto 0 0 Now only root can mount and umount floppies. Since GNOME does not run with root privileges, it can't mess me up. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2106438276.1006033.1292121041382.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote: On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:11:40 -0500 (EST), Stephen Powell wrote: I don't know. My computer does not have a USB floppy drive, that's true. It is a traditional AT-style floppy disk controller with two floppy drives. And I can no longer reproduce the problem. Having a floppy disk in the drive at boot time just once seems to have permanently cured the problem. Did a udev rule get created as a result of a ready floppy drive at boot time? I don't know. But I don't think there's much point in filing a bug report if I can no longer reproduce the problem and I don't know what cured it. I spoke too soon. The problem has recurred. After some more trial- and-error experimentation, the problem now seems to be GNOME-related. I can mount and umount the floppy disk UNTIL I logon to GNOME. Then, things go haywire. I have been able to circumvent the problem by commenting out the following entries in /etc/fstab and rebooting: /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd1 /media/floppy1 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 Now only root can mount and umount floppies. Since GNOME does not run with root privileges, it can't mess me up. I've been systematically deleting the emails in this thread unread. I was about to do the same with this one when I remembered a Ubuntu-users thread/rant about floppies where the apparent solution was to keep the above lines in /etc/fstab and mount floppies with udisks --mount /dev/fdX. Since Ubuntu's based on a mix of testing and unstable and uses the Debian udisks package without ubuntufying it... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinp+q33qkxcakv8e2e52dz--zuwdvy++7sa5...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
On 07/12/10 14:38, Dom wrote: On 06/12/10 11:46, Dom wrote: On 06/12/10 11:34, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:27:48 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:09:52 -0500 (EST), Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:07:20 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: Well, I'm not exactly a newbie. I've been using Linux for more than 10 years. But I must be doing something wrong. I can't seem to get a floppy disk to mount. ... Weird :-? I would try with the simplest command: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt If you get no error, run mount to ensure your floppy has been mounted. Also, check for dmesg output. No dice. I tried your suggested command, except that I changed /dev/fd0 to /dev/fd1, since I need the 5.25-inch drive, not the 3.5-inch drive, but other than that it was just as you suggested. No mount, no error message. The only output from dmesg is the original warning message: FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! which also comes out on the terminal, since I am issuing the command from an active Linux virtual console, not a terminal emulation window in X. Strange, indeed. I would try to load the floppies in another computer, maybe they become damaged somehow :-? Also, to discard any problem with squeeze, you can test it under a livecd (by instance, in lenny, I don't get that warning about utf-8 charset when accessing my floppy disks). Greetings, I recently hit the same problem, but assumed it was just my system playing up. Using a USB floppy drive, I created a FAT floppy from an image file, but when I wanted to change some files on it, it wouldn't mount. Copying the floppy to a file using dd, then mounting with loop option worked. There were no read or write errors during any of these processes (except on one bad floppy I tried). I found the same problem with an ext2 formatted floppy. mount -v -t ext2 /dev/sdb /media/floppy returns success, but nothing is mounted. I just tried partitioning the floppy with cfdisk, then creating an ext2 filesystem on /dev/sdb1. This mounted without a problem. I suspect this is a bug. Dom Following up to myself, after further testing. I only get this behaviour on one of my systems, all the others seem to handle mounting floppies fine. With a little bit of investigation, and the aid of strace, I now believe that the mount command *is* working correctly and mounting the floppy - then, almost instantly, something is unmounting it again. At first I thought it might be because my laptop has Gnome installed and the other machine I tested it on didn't, but I have since tried on another system with Gnome and that one is fine too. I shall keep investigating and maybe try cloning my laptop onto another machine with a non-USB drive. Dom Found the culprit. It's udisks-daemon and appears to be this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=592719 udisks prevents mounting of floppy disks. Killing the udisks-daemon enabled mounting of the drive. However, I suspect this is a different problem to the one the OP is getting, as this only affects USB floppy drives, not normal ones. Dom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d00a2dd.5040...@rpdom.net
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
On Thu, 09 Dec 2010 04:35:25 -0500 (EST), Dom wrote: Found the culprit. It's udisks-daemon and appears to be this bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=592719 udisks prevents mounting of floppy disks. Killing the udisks-daemon enabled mounting of the drive. However, I suspect this is a different problem to the one the OP is getting, as this only affects USB floppy drives, not normal ones. I don't know. My computer does not have a USB floppy drive, that's true. It is a traditional AT-style floppy disk controller with two floppy drives. And I can no longer reproduce the problem. Having a floppy disk in the drive at boot time just once seems to have permanently cured the problem. Did a udev rule get created as a result of a ready floppy drive at boot time? I don't know. But I don't think there's much point in filing a bug report if I can no longer reproduce the problem and I don't know what cured it. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/480296277.964255.1291943500467.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
On 06/12/10 11:46, Dom wrote: On 06/12/10 11:34, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:27:48 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:09:52 -0500 (EST), Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:07:20 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: Well, I'm not exactly a newbie. I've been using Linux for more than 10 years. But I must be doing something wrong. I can't seem to get a floppy disk to mount. ... Weird :-? I would try with the simplest command: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt If you get no error, run mount to ensure your floppy has been mounted. Also, check for dmesg output. No dice. I tried your suggested command, except that I changed /dev/fd0 to /dev/fd1, since I need the 5.25-inch drive, not the 3.5-inch drive, but other than that it was just as you suggested. No mount, no error message. The only output from dmesg is the original warning message: FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! which also comes out on the terminal, since I am issuing the command from an active Linux virtual console, not a terminal emulation window in X. Strange, indeed. I would try to load the floppies in another computer, maybe they become damaged somehow :-? Also, to discard any problem with squeeze, you can test it under a livecd (by instance, in lenny, I don't get that warning about utf-8 charset when accessing my floppy disks). Greetings, I recently hit the same problem, but assumed it was just my system playing up. Using a USB floppy drive, I created a FAT floppy from an image file, but when I wanted to change some files on it, it wouldn't mount. Copying the floppy to a file using dd, then mounting with loop option worked. There were no read or write errors during any of these processes (except on one bad floppy I tried). I found the same problem with an ext2 formatted floppy. mount -v -t ext2 /dev/sdb /media/floppy returns success, but nothing is mounted. I just tried partitioning the floppy with cfdisk, then creating an ext2 filesystem on /dev/sdb1. This mounted without a problem. I suspect this is a bug. Dom Following up to myself, after further testing. I only get this behaviour on one of my systems, all the others seem to handle mounting floppies fine. With a little bit of investigation, and the aid of strace, I now believe that the mount command *is* working correctly and mounting the floppy - then, almost instantly, something is unmounting it again. At first I thought it might be because my laptop has Gnome installed and the other machine I tested it on didn't, but I have since tried on another system with Gnome and that one is fine too. I shall keep investigating and maybe try cloning my laptop onto another machine with a non-USB drive. Dom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cfe46f0.2010...@rpdom.net
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
Dne, 06. 12. 2010 06:39:16 je Doug napisal(a): OTOH, I've heard stories about short lifetimes of homebrewed CDs also. At the moment, I believe even professionals and governments are having trouble trying to find a long-lasting medium for preserving data over decades and maybe centuries. The only long- lasting recordable media holds far too little data--think phonograph records! (Chiseling in rock works too.) A lot of us--I definitely include myself--have been very sloppy about caring for floppy media. It doesn't like dust or magnetic fields, for instance, and I suspect it doesn't like direct sunlight (the heat) either. But I am far from sure that this is the whole story. Old magnetic tape doesn't store very well either. I found a cassette that's probably 30 years old, and all the treble is gone. I'll bet there's nothing over 500 hertz on the tape. Maybe not even that high. Of course, tape is wound on itself, and that can't help. I guess if we wanted something longer lasting, we should have stayed with the punchcards ... -- Cheerio, Klistvud http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Certifiable Loonix User #481801 Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1291632786.2659...@compax
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:27:48 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:09:52 -0500 (EST), Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:07:20 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: Well, I'm not exactly a newbie. I've been using Linux for more than 10 years. But I must be doing something wrong. I can't seem to get a floppy disk to mount. ... Weird :-? I would try with the simplest command: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt If you get no error, run mount to ensure your floppy has been mounted. Also, check for dmesg output. No dice. I tried your suggested command, except that I changed /dev/fd0 to /dev/fd1, since I need the 5.25-inch drive, not the 3.5-inch drive, but other than that it was just as you suggested. No mount, no error message. The only output from dmesg is the original warning message: FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! which also comes out on the terminal, since I am issuing the command from an active Linux virtual console, not a terminal emulation window in X. Strange, indeed. I would try to load the floppies in another computer, maybe they become damaged somehow :-? Also, to discard any problem with squeeze, you can test it under a livecd (by instance, in lenny, I don't get that warning about utf-8 charset when accessing my floppy disks). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.06.11.34...@gmail.com
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
On 06/12/10 11:34, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:27:48 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:09:52 -0500 (EST), Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:07:20 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: Well, I'm not exactly a newbie. I've been using Linux for more than 10 years. But I must be doing something wrong. I can't seem to get a floppy disk to mount. ... Weird :-? I would try with the simplest command: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt If you get no error, run mount to ensure your floppy has been mounted. Also, check for dmesg output. No dice. I tried your suggested command, except that I changed /dev/fd0 to /dev/fd1, since I need the 5.25-inch drive, not the 3.5-inch drive, but other than that it was just as you suggested. No mount, no error message. The only output from dmesg is the original warning message: FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! which also comes out on the terminal, since I am issuing the command from an active Linux virtual console, not a terminal emulation window in X. Strange, indeed. I would try to load the floppies in another computer, maybe they become damaged somehow :-? Also, to discard any problem with squeeze, you can test it under a livecd (by instance, in lenny, I don't get that warning about utf-8 charset when accessing my floppy disks). Greetings, I recently hit the same problem, but assumed it was just my system playing up. Using a USB floppy drive, I created a FAT floppy from an image file, but when I wanted to change some files on it, it wouldn't mount. Copying the floppy to a file using dd, then mounting with loop option worked. There were no read or write errors during any of these processes (except on one bad floppy I tried). I found the same problem with an ext2 formatted floppy. mount -v -t ext2 /dev/sdb /media/floppy returns success, but nothing is mounted. I just tried partitioning the floppy with cfdisk, then creating an ext2 filesystem on /dev/sdb1. This mounted without a problem. I suspect this is a bug. Dom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cfcccfa.6070...@rpdom.net
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 21:26:06 -0500 (EST), Bob Proulx wrote: Stephen Powell wrote: mount -t msdos /dev/fd1 /media/floppy1 ... It tells me that /media/floppy1 is not mounted! When I try to read the data directly with dd if=/dev/fd1 of=erase.me count=1 It successfully reads the boot sector into the file erase.me; so the drive and the disk itself seem to be OK. Since you can read the disk try reading the entirety of the floppy over to your filesystem. Then try mounting the resulting file using the loopback device. mount -o loop,ro /path/to/floppy-image /media/floppy1 Perhaps that will give a clue. Yes, that works. I suspect that the data on the floppy is corrupted. But you will need more digging to find out the root cause. No, the data is intact, as the mounting of the image file with the loop option confirms. Also, further experimentation seems to suggest that if the floppy disk is physically mounted in the floppy drive during boot, then I can logically mount it with the mount command after boot. This really is looking like a bug. I intend to file a bug report, but I'd like to do some more trial-and-error experimentation before I do. Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/133082215.886726.1291692073223.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
Well, I'm not exactly a newbie. I've been using Linux for more than 10 years. But I must be doing something wrong. I can't seem to get a floppy disk to mount. My i386 system has a standard floppy disk controller with two floppy drives: a 3.5-inch high density drive (1.44M in DOS format) and a 5.25-inch high density drive (1.2M in DOS format). I'm trying to mount a double-sided, double density 5.25-inch floppy disk (360K in DOS format) in the 5.25-inch high density drive. I am running the latest Debian Squeeze. As root, I issue the command: mount -t msdos /dev/fd1 /media/floppy1 I receive a warning message FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! but I'm used to that. That's just a warning. But when I then issue mount with no operands, it does not show the floppy as mounted. And when I try to unmount it with umount /media/floppy1 It tells me that /media/floppy1 is not mounted! When I try to read the data directly with dd if=/dev/fd1 of=erase.me count=1 It successfully reads the boot sector into the file erase.me; so the drive and the disk itself seem to be OK. I tried other disks and also tried 3.5-inch disks in the other floppy drive, but I can't seem to get any floppy disk to mount. Am I doing something wrong? Or is there a bug here? I am running stock Debian kernel 2.6.32-5-686 version 2.6.32-28. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1334865717.850144.1291579640174.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:07:20 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: Well, I'm not exactly a newbie. I've been using Linux for more than 10 years. But I must be doing something wrong. I can't seem to get a floppy disk to mount. (...) Weird :-? I would try with the simplest command: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt If you get no error, run mount to ensure your floppy has been mounted. Also, check for dmesg output. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.12.05.21.09...@gmail.com
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 16:09:52 -0500 (EST), Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 15:07:20 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: Well, I'm not exactly a newbie. I've been using Linux for more than 10 years. But I must be doing something wrong. I can't seem to get a floppy disk to mount. ... Weird :-? I would try with the simplest command: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt If you get no error, run mount to ensure your floppy has been mounted. Also, check for dmesg output. No dice. I tried your suggested command, except that I changed /dev/fd0 to /dev/fd1, since I need the 5.25-inch drive, not the 3.5-inch drive, but other than that it was just as you suggested. No mount, no error message. The only output from dmesg is the original warning message: FAT: utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! which also comes out on the terminal, since I am issuing the command from an active Linux virtual console, not a terminal emulation window in X. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/429069591.851724.1291584468611.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
Stephen Powell wrote: mount -t msdos /dev/fd1 /media/floppy1 ... It tells me that /media/floppy1 is not mounted! When I try to read the data directly with dd if=/dev/fd1 of=erase.me count=1 It successfully reads the boot sector into the file erase.me; so the drive and the disk itself seem to be OK. Since you can read the disk try reading the entirety of the floppy over to your filesystem. Then try mounting the resulting file using the loopback device. mount -o loop,ro /path/to/floppy-image /media/floppy1 Perhaps that will give a clue. I tried other disks and also tried 3.5-inch disks in the other floppy drive, but I can't seem to get any floppy disk to mount. Am I doing something wrong? Or is there a bug here? As an alternative try the 'mtools' on it. It accesses the data without mounting. Description: Tools for manipulating MSDOS files Mtools is a collection of utilities to access MS-DOS disks from Unix without mounting them. It supports Win'95 style long file names, OS/2 Xdf disks, ZIP/JAZ disks and 2m disks (store up to 1992kB on a high density 3 1/2 disk). The you could try something like mdir a: and similarly. I am not suggesting this is better (or worse) but just different and may produce different output which may provide clues. I suspect that the data on the floppy is corrupted. But you will need more digging to find out the root cause. You might try taking a different floppy and try formatting it. mkfs -t msdos /dev/fd1 Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Cannot mount floppy drive in Squeeze
On 12/05/2010 09:26 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Stephen Powell wrote: mount -t msdos /dev/fd1 /media/floppy1 ... It tells me that /media/floppy1 is not mounted! When I try to read the data directly with dd if=/dev/fd1 of=erase.me count=1 It successfully reads the boot sector into the file erase.me; so the drive and the disk itself seem to be OK. Since you can read the disk try reading the entirety of the floppy over to your filesystem. Then try mounting the resulting file using the loopback device. mount -o loop,ro /path/to/floppy-image /media/floppy1 Perhaps that will give a clue. I tried other disks and also tried 3.5-inch disks in the other floppy drive, but I can't seem to get any floppy disk to mount. Am I doing something wrong? Or is there a bug here? As an alternative try the 'mtools' on it. It accesses the data without mounting. Description: Tools for manipulating MSDOS files Mtools is a collection of utilities to access MS-DOS disks from Unix without mounting them. It supports Win'95 style long file names, OS/2 Xdf disks, ZIP/JAZ disks and 2m disks (store up to 1992kB on a high density 3 1/2 disk). The you could try something like mdir a: and similarly. I am not suggesting this is better (or worse) but just different and may produce different output which may provide clues. I suspect that the data on the floppy is corrupted. But you will need more digging to find out the root cause. You might try taking a different floppy and try formatting it. mkfs -t msdos /dev/fd1 Bob The suspicion about corruption is likely to be correct if the floppy has been hanging around for a while. A lot of old floppies, programmed or not, seem to have a lot of defects. This is too bad if you're trying to install or read a program that you copied down 10 years ago! (Yes, I'm the same guy that said just a couple of hours ago that we should _not_ get rid of floppies.) OTOH, I've heard stories about short lifetimes of homebrewed CDs also. At the moment, I believe even professionals and governments are having trouble trying to find a long-lasting medium for preserving data over decades and maybe centuries. The only long- lasting recordable media holds far too little data--think phonograph records! (Chiseling in rock works too.) A lot of us--I definitely include myself--have been very sloppy about caring for floppy media. It doesn't like dust or magnetic fields, for instance, and I suspect it doesn't like direct sunlight (the heat) either. But I am far from sure that this is the whole story. Old magnetic tape doesn't store very well either. I found a cassette that's probably 30 years old, and all the treble is gone. I'll bet there's nothing over 500 hertz on the tape. Maybe not even that high. Of course, tape is wound on itself, and that can't help. Just some observations. YMMV, as they say. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4cfc7704.4010...@optonline.net
Re: Can't mount floppy as USER
Hi Paul, On Mon, 2003-12-15 at 04:46, Paul Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:53:31AM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote: (remark: I also tried /dev/fd0 /floppyautoowner,user,noauto 0 0) You want... /dev/fd0 /floppy autouser,noauto,rw 0 0 Your advice works for me. Thanks B.R. Stephen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can't mount floppy as USER
Hi folks, I can't mount floppy as USER only as ROOT /etc/fstab /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # file system mount point type options dump pass /dev/hdc2 / ext2errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hdc3 noneswapsw 0 0 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/fd0/floppy autoowner,user=satimis,noauto 0 0 /dev/cdrom /cdwriter udf,iso9660 owner,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/cdrom1 /cdromudf,iso9660 owner,user,noauto 0 0 (remark: I also tried /dev/fd0/floppy autoowner,user,noauto 0 0) /etc/mtab /dev/hdc2 / ext2 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0 proc /proc proc rw 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy vfat rw,user=satimis 0 0 Any advice. Thanks in advance. B.R. Stephen Liu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't mount floppy as USER
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 12:53:31AM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote: (remark: I also tried /dev/fd0 /floppy autoowner,user,noauto 0 0) You want... /dev/fd0 /floppy autouser,noauto,rw 0 0 - -- .''`. Paul Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/3MwxUzgNqloQMwcRAigGAJoC2PEcVmxbQ5hiYBsIqJlmckWg2ACfacDn jz6ddLe8KM2EdovodEd9tQk= =PeJp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mount /floppy
argh j'en avais oublié un bout, je reprends ! ### Concernant la D7 dans la config du noyau : 1/ Dans le menu File System si c'est un problème de système de fichier. En gros tous ceux que tu connais tu les mets (surtout laisses bien celui de ta partition / à yes !) C'est peut-être une D7 en ntfs d'ailleurs ? 2/ Dans Block Devices Normal floppy disk support = y/m 3/ Dans ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support IDE/ATA and ATAPI Block devices Enhanced IDE/MFM/RLL disk/cdrom/tape/floppy support = y/m Et sauf erreur il n'y a rien d'autre ... Eh ben si, il manque (au moins) : 3 bis/ Dans ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support IDE/ATA and ATAPI Block devices Include IDE/ATAPI Floppy support =y/m Mes excuses Philippe :-/ Et donc bien mettre les fat(msdos), vfat, ntfs, ext2 et ext3 dans file system (merci olivier ;-)) Jean-Roch
mount /floppy
Bonsoir, Avec le noyau par défaut de la woody (2.4.18-bf2.4),je pouvais monter des disquettes sans problème. L'installation de mon modem interne ayant nécessité une recompilation du noyau, j'ai depuis le problème suivant: à la commande mount /floppy répond I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified. A quel endroit de la configuration du noyau ai-je merdé ? Merci pour les réponses !
Re: mount /floppy
Avec le noyau par défaut de la woody (2.4.18-bf2.4),je pouvais monter des disquettes sans problème. L'installation de mon modem interne ayant nécessité une recompilation du noyau, j'ai depuis le problème suivant: à la commande mount /floppy répond I could not determine the filesystem type, and none was specified. A quel endroit de la configuration du noyau ai-je merdé ? t'a essayé en root ? mount /dev/fd0 /floppy -t ext2 (ou vfat, etc. si tu connais le système de fichier de ta D7) Sinon concernant la D7 dans la config du noyau : 1/ Dans le menu File System si c'est un problème de système de fichier. En gros tous ceux que tu connais tu les mets (surtout laisses bien celui de ta partition / à yes !) C'est peut-être une D7 en ntfs d'ailleurs ? 2/ Dans Block Devices Normal floppy disk support = y/m 3/ Dans ATA/IDE/MFM/RLL support IDE/ATA and ATAPI Block devices Enhanced IDE/MFM/RLL disk/cdrom/tape/floppy support = y/m Et sauf erreur il n'y a rien d'autre. Mais s'il y a le .config du 2.4.18-bf2.4 (/usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18-bf2.4/.config) tu peux regarder et comparer pour voir ce qui peux paraître étrange. Vérifie aussi ta fstab (mais y'a pas de raison que ça vienne de là) : /dev/fd0 /floppy auto sync,user,noauto 0 0 Jean-Roch
Re: Problem with mount floppy
On Fri, Nov 22, 2002 at 06:30:35PM +0200, Egor Tur wrote: Hi folk! Now I see this message: /dev/fd0: Input/output error mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only when I do `mount /floppy' and I can only read data on floppy but cannot write. What 's happened? How can I solve this problem? Have you checked the write-protect tab on the floppy? Of course, I see this message when I try mount not write-protected floppy :( Have you looked at /etc/fstab? Is /dev/fd0 rw or ro? Yes. I heve rw option. I think that message happen wnen user take his floppy but not umount it. I don't know how solve this - now help only reboot computer, but this is not good idea :( sudo umount /floppy -- Jerome msg14908/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re[2]: Problem with mount floppy
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 07:15:56 +0200, Egor Tur wrote: Hi folk! Now I see this message: /dev/fd0: Input/output error mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only when I do `mount /floppy' and I can only read data on floppy but cannot write. What 's happened? How can I solve this problem? Have you checked the write-protect tab on the floppy? Of course, I see this message when I try mount not write-protected floppy :( Have you looked at /etc/fstab? Is /dev/fd0 rw or ro? -- gt [EMAIL PROTECTED] It ain't so much what you don't know that gets you in trouble--- it's what you do know that ain't so.--unk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[4]: Problem with mount floppy
Hi folk! Now I see this message: /dev/fd0: Input/output error mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only when I do `mount /floppy' and I can only read data on floppy but cannot write. What 's happened? How can I solve this problem? Have you checked the write-protect tab on the floppy? Of course, I see this message when I try mount not write-protected floppy :( Have you looked at /etc/fstab? Is /dev/fd0 rw or ro? Yes. I heve rw option. I think that message happen wnen user take his floppy but not umount it. I don't know how solve this - now help only reboot computer, but this is not good idea :( Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem with mount floppy
Hi folk! Now I see this message: /dev/fd0: Input/output error mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only when I do `mount /floppy' and I can only read data on floppy but cannot write. What 's happened? How can I solve this problem? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with mount floppy
On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 13:05, Egor Tur wrote: Hi folk! Now I see this message: /dev/fd0: Input/output error mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only when I do `mount /floppy' and I can only read data on floppy but cannot write. What 's happened? How can I solve this problem? Have you checked the write-protect tab on the floppy? Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re[2]: Problem with mount floppy
Hi folk! Now I see this message: /dev/fd0: Input/output error mount: block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only when I do `mount /floppy' and I can only read data on floppy but cannot write. What 's happened? How can I solve this problem? Have you checked the write-protect tab on the floppy? Of course, I see this message when I try mount not write-protected floppy :( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mount floppy?
Hi all, I have a newbie question. I was wondering if I can copy defrag onto my boot disk, boot from there, unmount the HD, and do defrag. If this is the case, how can I mount the floppy? Is it mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy or mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy or anything else? Thanks in advance! Best wishes, Chip
Re: Mount floppy?
Fu-Dong Chiou wrote: Hi all, I have a newbie question. I was wondering if I can copy defrag onto my boot disk, boot from there, unmount the HD, and do defrag. If this is the case, how can I mount the floppy? Is it mount -t ext2 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy or mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy I believe this is correct. However if you omit the '-t XXX' mount will probably be able to figure out what type of filesystem it is (I think). -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't mount floppy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need msdos fs support in the kernel, as the error message says. Add this support as a module so you won't have to reboot to enable it. As above, however it may hard to figure out how to enable MSDOS support. Unfortunately things are now setup that you have to enable 'Native Language Support' before the msdos and vfat options are even displayed. Chandran Hank Fay wrote on Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 03:37:27PM -0400.. I rebuilt my kernel (Hamm) for firewalling, and included the floppy support option. However, since then I can't mount the floppy drive. I see it recognized (fd0) at boot up I'm told that fs type msdos is not supported by the kernel. When I try vfat the same. When I try ext2, I'm told it is not a valid block device. Hank -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Ed C.
can't mount floppy
I rebuilt my kernel (Hamm) for firewalling, and included the floppy support option. However, since then I can't mount the floppy drive. I see it recognized (fd0) at boot up, but when I mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /floppy I'm told that fs type msdos is not supported by the kernel. When I try vfat the same. When I try ext2, I'm told it is not a valid block device. Any ideas appreciated. This did work before the kernel rebuild, from install. Thanks, Hank
Re: can't mount floppy
You need msdos fs support in the kernel, as the error message says. Add this support as a module so you won't have to reboot to enable it. Chandran Hank Fay wrote on Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 03:37:27PM -0400.. I rebuilt my kernel (Hamm) for firewalling, and included the floppy support option. However, since then I can't mount the floppy drive. I see it recognized (fd0) at boot up I'm told that fs type msdos is not supported by the kernel. When I try vfat the same. When I try ext2, I'm told it is not a valid block device. Hank
Re: mount /floppy
Fabrizio Polacco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: /dev/fd0/amsdos user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0/fd ext2user,noauto 0 0 You can try: /dev/fd0/floppyauto user,noauto 0 0 to automatically detect the disk format. -- Carey Evans * http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/c.evans/ gc Trust Ivanova. Trust yourself. Anybody else - shoot 'em. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mount /floppy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Phan) writes: Hi, What do I suppose to put in the /etc/fstab so that any user can mount the floppy disk with just 'mount /floppy' and all user can access it. I use this entry, where gid=25 points to the user group floppy and umask=002 allows every user being member of this group to write to the floppy disk. This is ONE line. /dev/fd0/floppy vfatnoauto,user,gid=25,umask=002 0 0 Torsten -- I haven't lost my mind -- it's backed up on tape somewhere. Fortune Cookie PGP Public key available -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
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Hi,
What do I suppose to put in the /etc/fstab so that any
user can mount the floppy disk with just 'mount /floppy'
and all user can access it.
Thanks!
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Re: mount /floppy
Timothy Phan wrote: Hi, What do I suppose to put in the /etc/fstab so that any user can mount the floppy disk with just 'mount /floppy' and all user can access it. Put user in the options section. -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: mount /floppy
Timothy Phan wrote: What do I suppose to put in the /etc/fstab so that any user can mount the floppy disk with just 'mount /floppy' and all user can access it. I have in my /etc/fstab : /dev/fd0/amsdos user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0/fd ext2user,noauto 0 0 You have also do mkdir /a /fd or any other name you like (like /a: ). Then a user mount /a if the diskette is in dos format, or /fd if its in linux format. I know there is also an automatic way to detect the disk format, check the docs (I rarely use the floppy :-). Fabrizio -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] | Pluto Leader - Debian Developer Happy Debian 1.3.1 User - vi-holic | 6F7267F5 fingerprint 57 16 C4 ED C9 86 40 7B 1A 69 A1 66 EC FB D2 5E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
