Re: mount weirdness reloaded

2019-08-10 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-10, Dennis Wicks wrote: > > If you have some suggestions on what info to gather then let > me know. Bear in mind that during the boot process my system > is pretty much unresponsive for the hour or so until the > window manager is up and everything has settled down. > An hour or

mount weirdness reloaded

2019-08-09 Thread Dennis Wicks
Greetings once again; Tomorrow morning I am going to reboot and see if my problem happens again. If you have some suggestions on what info to gather then let me know. Bear in mind that during the boot process my system is pretty much unresponsive for the hour or so until the window manager

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-09 Thread Dennis Wicks
David Wright wrote on 8/8/19 9:04 AM: On Thu 08 Aug 2019 at 08:19:22 (-), Curt wrote: On 2019-08-05, Dennis Wicks wrote: So anyway, I typed in "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1" and it seemed to finish successfully, but "ls /wa1" indicated that in fact it had not. Nothing mounted on wa1! Many

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-09 Thread Dennis Wicks
Curt wrote on 8/8/19 3:41 AM: On 2019-08-08, Curt wrote: On 2019-08-05, Dennis Wicks wrote: So anyway, I typed in "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1" and it seemed to finish successfully, but "ls /wa1" indicated that in fact it had not. Nothing mounted on wa1! Many other tests told me the same

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-09 Thread Dennis Wicks
Curt wrote on 8/8/19 3:19 AM: On 2019-08-05, Dennis Wicks wrote: So anyway, I typed in "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1" and it seemed to finish successfully, but "ls /wa1" indicated that in fact it had not. Nothing mounted on wa1! Many other tests told me the same thing. "umount /wa1" said "not

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-09 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, David Wright wrote: > it appears that any subsequent mount commands have to > agree explicitly with the earlier choice. Are there other, similar > factors involved in the OP's case… Ah yes. I was similarly confused by my system's behavior on double mount and the fact that i remember to have

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-09 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Aug 09, 2019 at 11:29:17AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > Whether I like the ability to mount in this manner, I'm with Greg at the > moment. Obviously I missed any discussion on the topic ~15 years ago, > so I haven't seen any benefits spelled out. In any case, perhaps a > warning in

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-09 Thread David Wright
Sorry to cause the thread to "wander", but some of us are trying to replicate aspects of the OP's problem, which necessitates explaining any differences in the results being obtained. On Thu 08 Aug 2019 at 14:14:25 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 12:09:11PM -0500, David

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 12:09:11PM -0500, David Wright wrote: On Thu 08 Aug 2019 at 10:56:46 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 09:04:00AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > wren 08:50:11 ~# lsblk -f | grep sda7 > ├─sda7 ext4swan07

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-08 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 12:09:11PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > But the 2-1 vote wasn't whether error messages were emitted, but > whether the system should mount an already-mounted partition onto > another mount point. I get error messages and the mount fails. > Others get no error messages

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-08 Thread David Wright
On Thu 08 Aug 2019 at 10:56:46 (-0400), Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 09:04:00AM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > wren 08:50:11 ~# lsblk -f | grep sda7 > > ├─sda7 ext4swan07 4a4e352f-2180-4083-92b4-f46e4e0104b4 > > /wrenbk > > wren 08:50:26 ~# mkdir /wa1

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 09:04:00AM -0500, David Wright wrote: wren 08:50:11 ~# lsblk -f | grep sda7 ├─sda7 ext4swan07 4a4e352f-2180-4083-92b4-f46e4e0104b4 /wrenbk wren 08:50:26 ~# mkdir /wa1 /somethingelse wren 08:50:49 ~# mount /dev/sda7 /somethingelse mount: /dev/sda7 is

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-08 Thread David Wright
On Thu 08 Aug 2019 at 08:19:22 (-), Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-05, Dennis Wicks wrote: > > So anyway, I typed in "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1" and it > > seemed to finish successfully, but "ls /wa1" indicated that > > in fact it had not. Nothing mounted on wa1! Many other tests > > told me the

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-08, Michael Stone wrote: > On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 11:52:41AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: >>The central riddle is how mount(8) can fail to make the filesystem >>available without visibly reporting an error. >>A question about "mount -v" and its exit value is pending. >>Maybe one

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Aug 08, 2019 at 11:52:41AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: The central riddle is how mount(8) can fail to make the filesystem available without visibly reporting an error. A question about "mount -v" and its exit value is pending. Maybe one should also look at dmesg output after such a

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-08, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > The central riddle is how mount(8) can fail to make the filesystem > available without visibly reporting an error. Nothing to do with these swaps spaces (I took a gander at the /etc/fstab)? /wa1/Swap5 ... /wa2/Swap6 ... "I can

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-08 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > Did you show your /etc/fstab file (cut and paste)? If so, I must've missed > it. See https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2019/08/msg00295.html where the attachments are kindly attached to the body text. Results from "mount" without arguments or the contents of /etc/mtab and

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-08, Curt wrote: > On 2019-08-05, Dennis Wicks wrote: >> >> >> So anyway, I typed in "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1" and it >> seemed to finish successfully, but "ls /wa1" indicated that >> in fact it had not. Nothing mounted on wa1! Many other tests >> told me the same thing. "umount

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-08 Thread Curt
On 2019-08-05, Dennis Wicks wrote: > > > So anyway, I typed in "sudo mount /dev/sdb2 /wa1" and it > seemed to finish successfully, but "ls /wa1" indicated that > in fact it had not. Nothing mounted on wa1! Many other tests > told me the same thing. "umount /wa1" said "not mounted"! Would this

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-07 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > >mount -v /dev/sdc /wa1 > >echo $? Duh. "/dev/sdb2", not "/dev/sdc". (Do as i mean, not as i write.) Dennis Wicks wrote: > I'll put a note in my fstab so the next time I boot I can find it if the > mount fails again! Did i miss the report about some miracle cure beyond

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-07 Thread David Wright
On Wed 07 Aug 2019 at 12:44:39 (-0500), Dennis Wicks wrote: > David Wright wrote on 8/6/19 1:48 PM: > > On Tue 06 Aug 2019 at 12:18:21 (-0500), Dennis Wicks wrote: > > > Thomas Schmitt wrote on 8/6/19 10:30 AM: > > > > Dennis Wicks wrote: > > > > > I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1 > > > >

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-07 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 12:44:39PM -0500, Dennis Wicks wrote: > And the > system does not object or give an error when you mount the same partition on > two diff dirs anyway! Sadly. And *very* surprisingly. You can only wish that it did.

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-07 Thread Dennis Wicks
Thomas Schmitt wrote on 8/6/19 1:58 PM: Hi, more ideas: exit value, verbous mode. mount -v /dev/sdc /wa1 echo $? A nominally successful mount command would yield 0 as "$?". Maybe -v yields some extra insight. Have a nice day :) Thomas Thanks, Thomas! I'll put a note in my fstab

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-07 Thread Dennis Wicks
David Wright wrote on 8/6/19 1:48 PM: On Tue 06 Aug 2019 at 12:18:21 (-0500), Dennis Wicks wrote: Thomas Schmitt wrote on 8/6/19 10:30 AM: Dennis Wicks wrote: I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1 but I *can* mount *any* partition on any other mount point. So what do you get from these

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, more ideas: exit value, verbous mode. mount -v /dev/sdc /wa1 echo $? A nominally successful mount command would yield 0 as "$?". Maybe -v yields some extra insight. Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread David Wright
On Tue 06 Aug 2019 at 12:18:21 (-0500), Dennis Wicks wrote: > Thomas Schmitt wrote on 8/6/19 10:30 AM: > > Dennis Wicks wrote: > > > I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1 > > > but I *can* mount *any* partition on any other mount point. > > > > So what do you get from these shell commands ? >

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread Richard Hector
On 7/08/19 5:51 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote: > Richard Hector wrote on 8/6/19 12:42 PM: >> On 7/08/19 5:31 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote: >>> rhkra...@gmail.com wrote on 8/6/19 10:34 AM: I didn't fully understand your fstab, but is there a typo -- wa11 vs. wa1? >>> No. My current config is; >>> >>>  

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread Dennis Wicks
Richard Hector wrote on 8/6/19 12:42 PM: On 7/08/19 5:31 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote: rhkra...@gmail.com wrote on 8/6/19 10:34 AM: I didn't fully understand your fstab, but is there a typo -- wa11 vs. wa1? No. My current config is;    /wa1 -> wa11 ( soft link )    /wa11    ( <- /dev/sdb2 )

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread Richard Hector
On 7/08/19 5:31 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote: > rhkra...@gmail.com wrote on 8/6/19 10:34 AM: >> I didn't fully understand your fstab, but is there a typo -- wa11 vs. >> wa1? > No. My current config is; > >    /wa1 -> wa11 ( soft link ) >    /wa11    ( <- /dev/sdb2 ) > > with sdb2 mounted on /wa11

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread Dennis Wicks
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote on 8/6/19 10:34 AM: I didn't fully understand your fstab, but is there a typo -- wa11 vs. wa1? No. My current config is; /wa1 -> wa11 ( soft link ) /wa11( <- /dev/sdb2 ) with sdb2 mounted on /wa11 so I don't have to find and change all the paths that I

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread Dennis Wicks
Felix Miata wrote on 8/6/19 10:33 AM: Dennis Wicks composed on 2019-08-06 10:09 (UTC-0500): I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1 What is output from ls -ld /wa*/ ? wix@dgwicks:/$ ls -ld /wa*/ drwxrwxrwx 17 root root 4096 Jun 17 14:07 /wa1/ drwxrwxrwx 17 root root 4096 Jun 17 14:07

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread Dennis Wicks
Thomas Schmitt wrote on 8/6/19 10:30 AM: Hi, Dennis Wicks wrote: I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1 but I *can* mount *any* partition on any other mount point. So what do you get from these shell commands ? I am currently running with "ln -s /wa11 /wa1" so this isn't the config I

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread rhkramer
I didn't fully understand your fstab, but is there a typo -- wa11 vs. wa1? On Tuesday, August 06, 2019 11:09:32 AM Dennis Wicks wrote: > Requested info attached: > > I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1 > but I *can* mount *any* partition on any other mount point. > > Regards, and Thanks! >

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread Felix Miata
Dennis Wicks composed on 2019-08-06 10:09 (UTC-0500): > I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1 What is output from ls -ld /wa*/ ? -- Evolution as taught in public schools is religion, not science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Dennis Wicks wrote: > I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1 > but I *can* mount *any* partition on any other mount point. So what do you get from these shell commands ? ls -ld /wa1 /wa11 find /wa1 What happens if you create a new /wa1 ? mv /wa1 /wa1_old mkdir /wa1 mount

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread Dennis Wicks
Requested info attached: I *cannot* mount *any* partition on /wa1 but I *can* mount *any* partition on any other mount point. Regards, and Thanks! Dennis Andrei POPESCU wrote on 8/6/19 1:06 AM: On Lu, 05 aug 19, 15:33:57, Dennis Wicks wrote: It seems that something in the mount process does

Re: mount weirdness

2019-08-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 05 aug 19, 15:33:57, Dennis Wicks wrote: > > It seems that something in the mount process does not like "wa1" for a mount > point. Anybody have similar recent problems? Please show your fstab and the output of 'lsblk -f'. Kind regards, Andrei --

mount weirdness

2019-08-05 Thread Dennis Wicks
I recently rebooted after an upgrade that generated "Jul 28 17:13 initrd.img-4.19.0-5-686-pae" and when I was finally U I discovered that a mount didn't happen. (I am on Debian 10 Bullseye and my last kernel resulted in "Jul 18 17:23 vmlinuz-4.19.0-5-686-pae".) I have mount points