Re: name for wireless interface

[peter]

>> What is the origin of the long name, wlxa0f3c10a28f7?

*   From: Kushal Kumaran 
*   Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 22:45:44 -0700
> https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#new-interface-names

OK, yes, just the MAC or Ethernet address prefixed with "wlx".

root@dalton:/home/peter# ip addr show wlan1
4: wlan1:  mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group default 
qlen 1000
link/ether a0:f3:c1:0a:28:f7 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff

Thanks Kushal,   ... Peter E.

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Re: name for wireless interface

[David Wright]

On Sat 12 Aug 2017 at 18:38:05 (-0400), Fungi4All wrote:
> > From: pe...@easthope.ca
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > pe...@easthope.ca
> >
> > A TL-WN722N adapter connected to a stretch system gives these results.
> >
> > peter@imager:~$ lsusb | grep Ath
> > Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n
> >
> > root@imager:/home/peter# iwlist scan
> > wlxa0f3c10a28f7 Interface doesn"t support scanning : Network is down
> >
> > lo Interface doesn"t support scanning.
> >
> > eth0 Interface doesn"t support scanning.
> >
> > What is the origin of the long name, wlxa0f3c10a28f7?
> > Can a shorter name be assigned?
> 
> I can not help much and I have given up worrying about this madness.
> I have two debian installations, one has been on for years.  The one is
> testing the other unstable and previously have never had problems with
> either one.  Lately neither one has been able to maintain a wifi connection
> for long and takes 2-3' to boot up.  I took J.Johnson's recommendation
> to play around with ifconfig -a and ifconfig wlan0 up from console.
> The first time I run it the interface was listed as wlan0
> The second run it became wlan0mon
> The third it became wlan0monmon
> 
> I barely get enough time to run an update/upgrade on both installation
> and then it is down hill from there.
> 
> NOW
> 
> I have 4 more installations on the same machine, as I keep debian for
> sentimental reasons only.  None of the four different installations have
> had ANY connection problems, same machine, same wifi device, same
> connection.  The two are devuan-based the other two are Arch based.
> NONE have systemd on them, only Debian does.
> 
> You tell me what is wrong.  Setup is about the same, wicd is on all of them.

As usual, there's not much information to go on. I haven't seen
"J.Johnson's recommendation to play around with ifconfig -a and
ifconfig wlan0 up from console" but that sounds a great way to
break a system, particularly if there are some scripts that are
getting executed over and over.

A while back I wrote to you in another thread, "I'm trying to explain
what may have happened under the circumstances that you have presented
us with. You are the one trying to apportion blame, and you've decided
on fsck and grub." Getting a straight description of any problem from
you seems to be very difficult, so I'm not really surprised that no
one has yet taken the bait.

Cheers,
David.

RE: name for wireless interface

[Fungi4All]

> From: jratl...@bluemarble.net
> To: 'Dejan Jocic' <jode...@gmail.com>, debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> Create file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
>
> Add line:
>
> SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
> ATTR{address}=="[MAC_ADDRESS]", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1",
> KERNEL=="wl*", NAME="wlan0"
>
> Replace [MAC_ADDRESS] with the MAC address of your wireless card. Reboot.
>
> This worked for me on a wired card with my MAC and changing KERNEL="wl*" to
> KERNEL="en*" on a bhyve Debian 9 guest.
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: Dejan Jocic [mailto:jode...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 3:09 AM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: name for wireless interface
>
> On 12-08-17, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
>> A TL-WN722N adapter connected to a stretch system gives these results.
>>
>> peter@imager:~$ lsusb | grep Ath
>> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271
>> 802.11n
>>
>> root@imager:/home/peter# iwlist scan
>> wlxa0f3c10a28f7 Interface doesn"t support scanning : Network is down
>>
>> lo Interface doesn"t support scanning.
>>
>> eth0 Interface doesn"t support scanning.
>>
>> What is the origin of the long name, wlxa0f3c10a28f7?
>> Can a shorter name be assigned?
>>
>> Thanks, ... Peter E.
>>
>>
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>>
>
> It was asked many times on this list, and all around generally. Best answer
> would be to look here:
>
> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfac
> eNames/
>
> It has full explanation of why those long names and what to do if you do not
> like it. It is easy to assign shorter name, if you wish so and is explained
> nicely, with 3 possible methods.

Neither the document or any of you have explained to me why on a single session
the same interface for a wireless connection would repeatedly change names.
wlan0 wlan0mon wlan0monmon ..
Because on a different distribution the interfaces are
enp0s25  for wire
wlp0s29f7u5 for wireless
and never change or drop their connection like debian has been doing for a 
while.
I go in Debian and try to do an update and upgrade in case the problem goes away
on its own.  When the connection gets dropped I leave and try again another day.

Did I mention that none of my other systems have systemd!
I have no idea whether it is related.

RE: name for wireless interface

[John Ratliff]

Create file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules

Add line:

SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*",
ATTR{address}=="[MAC_ADDRESS]", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1",
KERNEL=="wl*", NAME="wlan0"

Replace [MAC_ADDRESS] with the MAC address of your wireless card. Reboot.

This worked for me on a wired card with my MAC and changing KERNEL="wl*" to
KERNEL="en*" on a bhyve Debian 9 guest.

-Original Message-
From: Dejan Jocic [mailto:jode...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 3:09 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: name for wireless interface

On 12-08-17, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> A TL-WN722N adapter connected to a stretch system gives these results.
> 
> peter@imager:~$ lsusb | grep Ath
> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 
> 802.11n
> 
> root@imager:/home/peter# iwlist scan
> wlxa0f3c10a28f7  Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
> 
> loInterface doesn't support scanning.
> 
> eth0  Interface doesn't support scanning.
> 
> What is the origin of the long name, wlxa0f3c10a28f7?
> Can a shorter name be assigned?
> 
> Thanks,   ... Peter E.
> 
> 
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> 

It was asked many times on this list, and all around generally. Best answer
would be to look here:

https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfac
eNames/

It has full explanation of why those long names and what to do if you do not
like it. It is easy to assign shorter name, if you wish so and is explained
nicely, with 3 possible methods.

Re: name for wireless interface

[Dejan Jocic]

On 12-08-17, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> A TL-WN722N adapter connected to a stretch system gives these results.
> 
> peter@imager:~$ lsusb | grep Ath
> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n
> 
> root@imager:/home/peter# iwlist scan
> wlxa0f3c10a28f7  Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
> 
> loInterface doesn't support scanning.
> 
> eth0  Interface doesn't support scanning.
> 
> What is the origin of the long name, wlxa0f3c10a28f7?
> Can a shorter name be assigned?
> 
> Thanks,   ... Peter E.
> 
> 
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> 

It was asked many times on this list, and all around generally. Best
answer would be to look here:

https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/

It has full explanation of why those long names and what to do if you do
not like it. It is easy to assign shorter name, if you wish so and is
explained nicely, with 3 possible methods.

Re: name for wireless interface

[Kushal Kumaran]

pe...@easthope.ca writes:

> A TL-WN722N adapter connected to a stretch system gives these results.
>
> peter@imager:~$ lsusb | grep Ath
> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n
>
> root@imager:/home/peter# iwlist scan
> wlxa0f3c10a28f7  Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
>
> loInterface doesn't support scanning.
>
> eth0  Interface doesn't support scanning.
>
> What is the origin of the long name, wlxa0f3c10a28f7?
> Can a shorter name be assigned?
>

https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#new-interface-names

-- 
regards,
kushal

Re: name for wireless interface

[peter]

*   From: Fungi4All 
*   Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:38:05 -0400
> ... given up worrying about this madness.
>  ...
> You tell me what is wrong. 

Unfortunately I can't spare more time for work on it this week.  If 
we're lucky, it will be solved before the next release.

Thanks for replying.  Now I know that this problem is not so unusual.

Regards,... Peter E.
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Re: name for wireless interface

[Fungi4All]

> From: pe...@easthope.ca
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> pe...@easthope.ca
>
> A TL-WN722N adapter connected to a stretch system gives these results.
>
> peter@imager:~$ lsusb | grep Ath
> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n
>
> root@imager:/home/peter# iwlist scan
> wlxa0f3c10a28f7 Interface doesn"t support scanning : Network is down
>
> lo Interface doesn"t support scanning.
>
> eth0 Interface doesn"t support scanning.
>
> What is the origin of the long name, wlxa0f3c10a28f7?
> Can a shorter name be assigned?

I can not help much and I have given up worrying about this madness.
I have two debian installations, one has been on for years.  The one is
testing the other unstable and previously have never had problems with
either one.  Lately neither one has been able to maintain a wifi connection
for long and takes 2-3' to boot up.  I took J.Johnson's recommendation
to play around with ifconfig -a and ifconfig wlan0 up from console.
The first time I run it the interface was listed as wlan0
The second run it became wlan0mon
The third it became wlan0monmon

I barely get enough time to run an update/upgrade on both installation
and then it is down hill from there.

NOW

I have 4 more installations on the same machine, as I keep debian for
sentimental reasons only.  None of the four different installations have
had ANY connection problems, same machine, same wifi device, same
connection.  The two are devuan-based the other two are Arch based.
NONE have systemd on them, only Debian does.

You tell me what is wrong.  Setup is about the same, wicd is on all of them.

name for wireless interface

[peter]

A TL-WN722N adapter connected to a stretch system gives these results.

peter@imager:~$ lsusb | grep Ath
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0cf3:9271 Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n

root@imager:/home/peter# iwlist scan
wlxa0f3c10a28f7  Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down

loInterface doesn't support scanning.

eth0  Interface doesn't support scanning.

What is the origin of the long name, wlxa0f3c10a28f7?
Can a shorter name be assigned?

Thanks,   ... Peter E.


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