Re: new machine: what's wrong?

2000-10-29 Thread Jack
Many thanks to those replied.  Just found where the problem was:
plugging another P133 Mem calms everything down.  Yeah,  It's a memory
problem.

thanks again,

jack



Re: new machine: what's wrong?

2000-10-24 Thread Jack
Thanks for the reply!  However,  I've already tried that with no luck.
The installation (boot from cd) of Debian and Redhat 7.0 failed with
same kind of error message.  BTW,  my old machine is not so old indeed,
PII 400.  


On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 10:39:21PM -0500, Andrei Ivanov wrote:
 Thats most likely because you are booting a system that was build on
 your old box...different hardware, totally. I've had something like that
 happen to me when I booted a kernel from old system into new one
 (different architectures, 486-Pentium). System booted, but behaved very
 badly.
 Same story with Windows.
 I'd try to do a clean install somewhere on a partition you dont need.
 Andrei
 
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Re: new machine: what's wrong?

2000-10-24 Thread Philipp Schulte
On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 11:41:10PM -0400, Jack wrote: 

 Frustrated with my new machine.  It's a self-assembled machine and it's
 the first one I've made.  (PIII, PC133, 128M mem)
 
 Tried to boot from the my old hard-disk,  which has Win98, Win2k,
 Debian installed on it.
 
 Win98 could be booted into DOS mode just fine.  Win98 itself (even safe
 mode) and Win2k crashed when boot.  Debian failed either.  Here's error
 message I got from linux:
 
 --
 
 Calibrating delay loop ... 1468.01 BogoMIPS
 Memory 127064K/131008K available (1016k Kernel code, 416K reserved,
 1680k data, 60k init, OK bigmem)
 Dentry hash table entries: 262144(order 9, 2048k)
 Buffer cache hash table entries: 131072(order 7, 512k)
 Page cache hash table entries: 32768(order 5, 128k)
 Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 87fe15a8
 current-tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
 *pde = 
 Oops: 
 CPU: 0
 EIP: 0010[c011edb0]
 EFLAGS: 00010283
 eax: ebx:87fe1560 ecxc024cc84 edx c01d57c0
 esi:c01d20d7 edi:c01d57c1 ebpc7f317a0 esp: c0229f90
 ds 0018 es 0018 ss:0018
 Process swapper(pid:0, processs nr:0, stackpage: c0229000)
 stack: ..
.. (numbers)
 Call Trace: [6106000] [c01d57c0]
 [c0106000] [c0100175]
 Code: 8b 73 48 8b 7c 24 38 fc ac
   ae 75 08 84 c0 75 88 31 c0 eb 04
 Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
 In swapper task - not syncing
 
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[...]

 ps.  the memory works fine on my old machine,  although the old
 motherboard only supports pc100.

But your memory does support PC133? Maybe it just claims to support
it. Don't laugh - the german Computer magazine c't tested a bunch of
RAMs to check if the SPD was programmed correctly. On
http://www.heise.de/ct/ftp/ctspd.shtml they got a nice tool to check
your's. Of course it's in german but if you want to I would be able to
translate the important stuff. This is not a commom memory test, but a
test to see if the SPD is programmed according to the Specs.

You could try to borrow some other memory (PC133!) and see if it does
make any change. 
You could also try to boot a Floppy-Linuy like 
http://sunsite.dk/mulinux/
http://www.toms.net/rb/

and see if they boot with your hardware.

If all that doesn't help then I guess you have to check every single
piece of hardware and replace it for testing.
HTH,
Phil



Re: new machine: what's wrong?

2000-10-24 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
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On Mon, Oct 23, 2000 at 11:41:10PM -0400, Jack wrote:
 Buffer cache hash table entries: 131072(order 7, 512k)
 Page cache hash table entries: 32768(order 5, 128k)
 Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 87fe15a8
 current-tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
 *pde = 
 Oops: 
 CPU: 0
 EIP: 0010[c011edb0]
 EFLAGS: 00010283
 eax: ebx:87fe1560 ecxc024cc84 edx c01d57c0
 esi:c01d20d7 edi:c01d57c1 ebpc7f317a0 esp: c0229f90
 ds 0018 es 0018 ss:0018
 Process swapper(pid:0, processs nr:0, stackpage: c0229000)
 stack: ..
.. (numbers)
 Call Trace: [6106000] [c01d57c0]
 [c0106000] [c0100175]
 Code: 8b 73 48 8b 7c 24 38 fc ac
   ae 75 08 84 c0 75 88 31 c0 eb 04
 Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
 In swapper task - not syncing


Looks like a memory problem.  Try getting the memtest86 package.  It is
packaged in Debian, but it's not actually a Linux app.  You copy it to a
floppy and boot with the floppy.  Memtest hammers hard on the ram for a
while, doing a series of checks designed to cause problems with the RAM
to become apparent.

I've also seen problems like this with bad motherboards.  If possible,
try swapping out different hardware components (i.e. try a different
video board, etc).

Good luck.
noah
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new machine: what's wrong?

2000-10-23 Thread Jack
Hi,

Frustrated with my new machine.  It's a self-assembled machine and it's
the first one I've made.  (PIII, PC133, 128M mem)

Tried to boot from the my old hard-disk,  which has Win98, Win2k,
Debian installed on it.

Win98 could be booted into DOS mode just fine.  Win98 itself (even safe
mode) and Win2k crashed when boot.  Debian failed either.  Here's error
message I got from linux:

--

Calibrating delay loop ... 1468.01 BogoMIPS
Memory 127064K/131008K available (1016k Kernel code, 416K reserved,
1680k data, 60k init, OK bigmem)
Dentry hash table entries: 262144(order 9, 2048k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 131072(order 7, 512k)
Page cache hash table entries: 32768(order 5, 128k)
Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 87fe15a8
current-tss.cr3 = 00101000, %cr3 = 00101000
*pde = 
Oops: 
CPU: 0
EIP: 0010[c011edb0]
EFLAGS: 00010283
eax: ebx:87fe1560 ecxc024cc84 edx c01d57c0
esi:c01d20d7 edi:c01d57c1 ebpc7f317a0 esp: c0229f90
ds 0018 es 0018 ss:0018
Process swapper(pid:0, processs nr:0, stackpage: c0229000)
stack: ..
   .. (numbers)
Call Trace: [6106000] [c01d57c0]
[c0106000] [c0100175]
Code: 8b 73 48 8b 7c 24 38 fc ac
  ae 75 08 84 c0 75 88 31 c0 eb 04
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
In swapper task - not syncing

--

Please help with no-clues:  does it look like a CPU failure, Mem
failure, bad configured CMOS, wrong jumpers on Motherboard?  Any
comments will be very much appreciated!  could provide all model names
of hardware if someone is interested in this case.

thanks for reading.


Jack
ps.  the memory works fine on my old machine,  although the old
motherboard only supports pc100.



Re: new machine: what's wrong?

2000-10-23 Thread Andrei Ivanov
Thats most likely because you are booting a system that was build on
your old box...different hardware, totally. I've had something like that
happen to me when I booted a kernel from old system into new one
(different architectures, 486-Pentium). System booted, but behaved very
badly.
Same story with Windows.
I'd try to do a clean install somewhere on a partition you dont need.
Andrei

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