Re: project: wired/wireless router
On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:03 AM, thveillon.debian Looks like Netgear is about to bring us a nice toy : The high-performance WGR614L, which is Works with Windows Vista Sorry to rain on the parade, but (to echo some comments on slashdot), no pre-N, gigabit ethernet or usb ports? 4MB flash and 16MB ram? High-performance? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:26:28AM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: Greg, I can confirm that the Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 is very stable under OpenWRT White Russian, which gives you (yet) another option if you go down the path of buying a new router/AP device. Alternatively, if you're set on using your existing box as your router/AP, why not use a USB Wi-Fi device if you're going to be occupying the sole PCI slot with an ethernet card? USB Wi-Fi dongles are often cheaper than Ethernet ones. (NB. If I've failed to notice that your box doesn't have USB, then please disregard this comment.) I just wanted to report on the hardware I decided on. I couldn't find a well-supported USB WiFi dongle, especially one that was a reasonable price and showed any prayer of being able to work as an AP. I also realized I already had a USB wired dongle lying around from an old TiVo (now replaced with a TiVo that has builtin ethernet). So now I'm purchasing a Netgear Super G PCI card (WG311TNA), which is supported by madwifi as an AP. The USB dongle is, regrettably, USB 1.1, but since it will be connected to the cable modem (which only provides around 3Mb bandwidth), it should be fine. Once I have the hardware, it's just a matter of figuring out how to set up the iptables for NAT routing and appropriate firewalling. Actually, since I don't have wireless needs at the moment, I can start working on it this weekend even before I receive the wireless card, assuming I have sufficient hubs (which I might). Sam --Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
Gregory Seidman wrote: Once I have the hardware, it's just a matter of figuring out how to set up the iptables for NAT routing and appropriate firewalling. Actually, since I don't have wireless needs at the moment, I can start working on it this weekend even before I receive the wireless card, assuming I have sufficient hubs (which I might). For iptables, you probably want to look into various packages that already do this. Firestarter comes to mind, but I am not sure if it will measure up to your two lans requirement, LAN and WLAN. Should you need any help regarding iptabels in this scenario, ask here and I will try to pitch in. I already have a similar setup running with my own iptables script. I am no networking expert, but I will be able to at least list what worked for me. But rest assured, it is fun doing this stuff! -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
Hello Gregory, Am 2008-06-28 12:30:15, schrieb Gregory Seidman: I have a mini case with a VIA motherboard and CPU. It has an on-board ethernet port. I'd like to use it as a Linux firewall/NAT router to replace the (wired only) LinkSys I have now. It only has one PCI slot, but I want to be able to provide both wired and wireless LAN access. I'm looking for both hardware suggestions (i.e. a PCI card with both wired and wireless ethernet that is supported by the kernel in stable) and configuration help. Use a PCMCIA - MiniPCI Adaptor card I use one which have 8 MiniPCI Slots and use a VIA EPIA LN1EAG. My requirements are: 1) Wireless is an independent subnet from the wired, and is firewalled from the wired LAN in the same way as the outside world. Me too 2) Several open ports forwarded to not necessarily the same port on a machine on the wired LAN (e.g. ports 80, 22, 443). Me too 3) WPA encryption on wireless. 4) UPNP support (wired and wireless). Me not 5) NAT/DHCP support (wired and wireless). Me too 6) Prioritize all wired traffic over wireless. Me too 7) Prioritize all SIP (VoIP) traffic (via wired) over everything else. Me too - QoS Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/935194750, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) signature.pgp Description: Digital signature
Re: project: wired/wireless router
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 12:06:15PM -0400, H.S. wrote: Gregory Seidman wrote: Once I have the hardware, it's just a matter of figuring out how to set up the iptables for NAT routing and appropriate firewalling. Actually, since I don't have wireless needs at the moment, I can start working on it this weekend even before I receive the wireless card, assuming I have sufficient hubs (which I might). For iptables, you probably want to look into various packages that already do this. Firestarter comes to mind, but I am not sure if it will measure up to your two lans requirement, LAN and WLAN. I found shorewall to be very powerfull, but not too hard to configure. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: project: wired/wireless router
On Tue, Jul 01, 2008 at 06:42:17PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Gregory, Am 2008-06-28 12:30:15, schrieb Gregory Seidman: I have a mini case with a VIA motherboard and CPU. It has an on-board ethernet port. I'd like to use it as a Linux firewall/NAT router to replace the (wired only) LinkSys I have now. It only has one PCI slot, but I want to be able to provide both wired and wireless LAN access. I'm looking for both hardware suggestions (i.e. a PCI card with both wired and wireless ethernet that is supported by the kernel in stable) and configuration help. Use a PCMCIA - MiniPCI Adaptor card I use one which have 8 MiniPCI Slots and use a VIA EPIA LN1EAG. My requirements are: 1) Wireless is an independent subnet from the wired, and is firewalled from the wired LAN in the same way as the outside world. Me too 1/2 Me too, I have independent wireless but I treat it the same as the LAN, I protect it by wpa/psk 2) Several open ports forwarded to not necessarily the same port on a machine on the wired LAN (e.g. ports 80, 22, 443). Me too open wireless - lan 3) WPA encryption on wireless. me too 4) UPNP support (wired and wireless). Me not me not 5) NAT/DHCP support (wired and wireless). Me too 6) Prioritize all wired traffic over wireless. Me too me not 7) Prioritize all SIP (VoIP) traffic (via wired) over everything else. Me too - QoS me to SIP first but done at the firewal to the internet Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/935194750, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- Can't living with the bill means it won't become law. - George W. Bush 06/13/2001 referring to the McCain-Kennedy patients' bill of rights signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: project: wired/wireless router
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:41:58PM +0100, j t wrote: Having said that, I run openwrt on a couple of asus routers: one wl-hdd and one asus wl-500g and they have the same issue with regards there has been some changes to openwrt, the latest trunk version from the svn repo has b43 driver which lets you use 2.6 on the broadcom based routers, like asus + wrt5x's. the same is true for 2.4 but not with b43 driver. Apologies if this is starting to veer slightly offtopic. Alex, are you running current openrt svn yourself on any asus boxes at the moment? If so, what mode is your wireless running in (ap, sta, ...)? Thanks, Jaime -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:59:34AM +0100, j t wrote: On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Alex Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:41:58PM +0100, j t wrote: Having said that, I run openwrt on a couple of asus routers: one wl-hdd and one asus wl-500g and they have the same issue with regards there has been some changes to openwrt, the latest trunk version from the svn repo has b43 driver which lets you use 2.6 on the broadcom based routers, like asus + wrt5x's. the same is true for 2.4 but not with b43 driver. Apologies if this is starting to veer slightly offtopic. Alex, are you running current openrt svn yourself on any asus boxes at the moment? If so, what mode is your wireless running in (ap, sta, ...)? yep OT yes I have a old trunk SVN (about 3 months ago) on a asus 500Pg with atheros card run in ap mode, i hear people have the same config but with broadcom wireless (with b43). I just built a asus 500w with latest svn trunk with broadcom wireless, but because its a draft N the firmware will not run it :( about to use the broadcom minipci wireless I got from the 500gP Thanks, Jaime -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- You f--cking son of a bitch. I saw what you wrote. We're not going to forget this. - George W. Bush 06/20/2005 To writer Al Hunt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: project: wired/wireless router
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/29/08 10:31, j t wrote: On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding all this extra equipment is going to cost you *much* more than buying a Linksys WRT56GL and reflashing it with the Tomato or DD-WRT firmware. OK, I've just spent 10 minutes searching for Linksys WRT56GL (a pair of donkey ears for me, please) I realize that googling returns 259 hits, but there's no wrt56gl on Linksys's support website, and dd-wrt doesn't have it in their list of supported hardware. Ron, is this just a typo? Yup. Sorry. It's the WRT54GL. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124190 - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhn3VEACgkQS9HxQb37XmftdgCbBSWTY9JqsVdBpgfTpnCf/uVI lO8AnjxarlvlyfBGfqaO64B/GHZIVKFU =9+S5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Let me add my name to the list of supporters. I originally installed a D-Link but eventually replaced it with the 54GL. I also use the companion Linksys range extender. Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Let me add my name to the list of supporters. I originally installed a D-Link but eventually replaced it with the 54GL. I also use the companion Linksys range extender. Larry Looks like Netgear is about to bring us a nice toy : The high-performance WGR614L, which is Works with Windows Vista certified, features a 240 MHz MIPS32 CPU core with 16 KB of instruction cache, 16 KB of data cache, 1 KB of pre-fetch cache, and incorporates 4 MB of flash memory and 16 MB of RAM. In addition to an external 2 dBi antenna, the WGR614L integrates a second internal diversity antenna to provide enhanced performance and range. The router supports free open source Linux-based Tomato and DD-WRT firmware and will soon support OpenWRT. Source : http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/wgr614l-wireless-g-router.html Seen on Slashdot too : http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/06/29/005233 Regards, Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding all this extra equipment is going to cost you *much* more than buying a Linksys WRT56GL and reflashing it with the Tomato or DD-WRT firmware. OK, I've just spent 10 minutes searching for Linksys WRT56GL (a pair of donkey ears for me, please) I realize that googling returns 259 hits, but there's no wrt56gl on Linksys's support website, and dd-wrt doesn't have it in their list of supported hardware. Ron, is this just a typo? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/29/08 10:31, j t wrote: On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding all this extra equipment is going to cost you *much* more than buying a Linksys WRT56GL and reflashing it with the Tomato or DD-WRT firmware. OK, I've just spent 10 minutes searching for Linksys WRT56GL (a pair of donkey ears for me, please) I realize that googling returns 259 hits, but there's no wrt56gl on Linksys's support website, and dd-wrt doesn't have it in their list of supported hardware. Ron, is this just a typo? Yup. Sorry. It's the WRT54GL. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124190 - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhn3VEACgkQS9HxQb37XmftdgCbBSWTY9JqsVdBpgfTpnCf/uVI lO8AnjxarlvlyfBGfqaO64B/GHZIVKFU =9+S5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 02:06:57PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/29/08 10:31, j t wrote: On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adding all this extra equipment is going to cost you *much* more than buying a Linksys WRT56GL and reflashing it with the Tomato or DD-WRT firmware. OK, I've just spent 10 minutes searching for Linksys WRT56GL (a pair of donkey ears for me, please) I realize that googling returns 259 hits, but there's no wrt56gl on Linksys's support website, and dd-wrt doesn't have it in their list of supported hardware. Ron, is this just a typo? Yup. Sorry. It's the WRT54GL. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124190 I've heard of this. I was kind of hoping to do all this with Debian, but it sounds like the WRT54GL is a better bet, but only if it can actually firewall the wired subnet from the wireless subnet. A little bit of googling hasn't given me the answer to that either way. Does anyone know? Ron Johnson, Jr. --Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard of this. I was kind of hoping to do all this with Debian, but it sounds like the WRT54GL is a better bet, but only if it can actually firewall the wired subnet from the wireless subnet. A little bit of googling hasn't given me the answer to that either way. Does anyone know? I can't talk from personal experience with that particular router, but according to: http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Linksys/WRT54GL it seems like unless you limit yourself to to a 2.4 kernel, you won't have to worry about firewalling the wireless subnet (since you won't have one!) Having said that, I run openwrt on a couple of asus routers: one wl-hdd and one asus wl-500g and they have the same issue with regards to their wifi under a 2.6 kernel. I've been running white russian (linux 2.4.30) on both of them for ages and they're perfectly stable (current uptime measured in months). As it's a straight linux, you get a full iptables to play with. When it's time to upgrade to 2.6, one option for me (and possibly for you) is to plug a usb wireless stick into the usb socket (which both of these devices possess). Again, just my 0.02cents. HTH... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
Greg, I can confirm that the Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 is very stable under OpenWRT White Russian, which gives you (yet) another option if you go down the path of buying a new router/AP device. Alternatively, if you're set on using your existing box as your router/AP, why not use a USB Wi-Fi device if you're going to be occupying the sole PCI slot with an ethernet card? USB Wi-Fi dongles are often cheaper than Ethernet ones. (NB. If I've failed to notice that your box doesn't have USB, then please disregard this comment.) Sam
Re: project: wired/wireless router
On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 12:26:28AM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: I can confirm that the Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 is very stable under OpenWRT White Russian, which gives you (yet) another option if you go down the path of buying a new router/AP device. Alternatively, if you're set on using your existing box as your router/AP, why not use a USB Wi-Fi device if you're going to be occupying the sole PCI slot with an ethernet card? USB Wi-Fi dongles are often cheaper than Ethernet ones. (NB. If I've failed to notice that your box doesn't have USB, then please disregard this comment.) I hadn't even considered USB WiFi. I like the idea. The existing box does have USB, so that's workable. Now I just need to do a bit of research on which USB WiFi devices are well supported by 2.6.18 (I think that's what's in Debian stable). The box has one PCI slot, several (three? four?) USB ports, and an on-board wired ethernet port. I also have a wired ethernet PCI card lying around somewhere and I think I have a suitable wired hub, so it's just a matter of the USB WiFi. Comparing the certainty of the software being able to run separate interfaces and route properly, not to mention the familiarity of Debian, to the WRT stuff where you are restricted to a 2.4 kernel and I don't feel certain it supports the configuration I need, it looks to me like my existing box is a better approach. Now I just need to learn iptables really well so I can configure it. Any book suggestions? Sam --Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/29/08 17:41, j t wrote: On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard of this. I was kind of hoping to do all this with Debian, but it sounds like the WRT54GL is a better bet, but only if it can actually firewall the wired subnet from the wireless subnet. A little bit of googling hasn't given me the answer to that either way. Does anyone know? I can't talk from personal experience with that particular router, but according to: http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Linksys/WRT54GL it seems like unless you limit yourself to to a 2.4 kernel, you won't have to worry about firewalling the wireless subnet (since you won't have one!) Having said that, I run openwrt on a couple of asus routers: one wl-hdd and one asus wl-500g and they have the same issue with regards to their wifi under a 2.6 kernel. I've been running white russian (linux 2.4.30) on both of them for ages and they're perfectly stable (current uptime measured in months). As it's a straight linux, you get a full iptables to play with. When it's time to upgrade to 2.6, one option for me (and possibly for you) is to plug a usb wireless stick into the usb socket (which both of these devices possess). Maybe the Tomato or DD-WRT firmware? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhoQHwACgkQS9HxQb37XmfhYgCcDr9H+l32zTfKbBD07aFJ/sSE qSUAoOupjmDwdOLKmOnNwQDeYoDkh1g/ =8Y6+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:41:58PM +0100, j t wrote: On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Having said that, I run openwrt on a couple of asus routers: one wl-hdd and one asus wl-500g and they have the same issue with regards there has been some changes to openwrt, the latest trunk version from the svn repo has b43 driver which lets you use 2.6 on the broadcom based routers, like asus + wrt5x's. the same is true for 2.4 but not with b43 driver. there was issue with the Wl-500pg and seg faults, but again that is fixed with 2.6 to their wifi under a 2.6 kernel. I've been running white russian (linux 2.4.30) on both of them for ages and they're perfectly stable (current uptime measured in months). As it's a straight linux, you get a full iptables to play with. When it's time to upgrade to 2.6, one option for me (and possibly for you) is to plug a usb wireless stick into the usb socket (which both of these devices possess). Again, just my 0.02cents. HTH... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sic transit gloria mundi. [So passes away the glory of this world.] -- Thomas `a Kempis signature.asc Description: Digital signature
project: wired/wireless router
I have a mini case with a VIA motherboard and CPU. It has an on-board ethernet port. I'd like to use it as a Linux firewall/NAT router to replace the (wired only) LinkSys I have now. It only has one PCI slot, but I want to be able to provide both wired and wireless LAN access. I'm looking for both hardware suggestions (i.e. a PCI card with both wired and wireless ethernet that is supported by the kernel in stable) and configuration help. My requirements are: 1) Wireless is an independent subnet from the wired, and is firewalled from the wired LAN in the same way as the outside world. 2) Several open ports forwarded to not necessarily the same port on a machine on the wired LAN (e.g. ports 80, 22, 443). 3) WPA encryption on wireless. 4) UPNP support (wired and wireless). 5) NAT/DHCP support (wired and wireless). 6) Prioritize all wired traffic over wireless. 7) Prioritize all SIP (VoIP) traffic (via wired) over everything else. Basically, I want my VoIP line to get the best bandwidth available on the external connection, wired to get priority over wireless, and wireless to be firewalled from the external interface (no forwarded ports at all, except UPNP), but wired firewalled from both wireless and external interfaces (with some forwarded ports). I don't feel the need to run my own DNS, though, just routing. --Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 28-jun-2008, at 18:30, Gregory Seidman wrote: I have a mini case with a VIA motherboard and CPU. It has an on-board ethernet port. I'd like to use it as a Linux firewall/NAT router to replace the (wired only) LinkSys I have now. It only has one PCI slot, but I want to be able to provide both wired and wireless LAN access. I'm looking for both hardware suggestions (i.e. a PCI card with both wired and wireless ethernet that is supported by the kernel in stable) and configuration help. Maybe not the answer that you were looking for. But seeing what your requirements are, I'd simply add a two or four port ethernet card to the case and plug a wireless bridge into one of the ports. This would be a hassle free setup and give you all the options you need without having to hunt down that probably rare or non existent card with both wireless and wired. This would also give you the future proof posibility to add another wireless bridge when a new and better standard is hitting the market. (I love to have both 802.11b and 802.11n bridges on my network, so I can have the 802.11n bridge running at its fastest setting). Groet, Peter Teunissen --- mrwhite:~ oneman$ man woman No manual entry for woman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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oneman wrote: On 28-jun-2008, at 18:30, Gregory Seidman wrote: I have a mini case with a VIA motherboard and CPU. It has an on-board ethernet port. I'd like to use it as a Linux firewall/NAT router to replace the (wired only) LinkSys I have now. It only has one PCI slot, but I want to be able to provide both wired and wireless LAN access. I'm looking for both hardware suggestions (i.e. a PCI card with both wired and wireless ethernet that is supported by the kernel in stable) and configuration help. Maybe not the answer that you were looking for. But seeing what your requirements are, I'd simply add a two or four port ethernet card to the case and plug a wireless bridge into one of the ports. This would be a hassle free setup and give you all the options you need without having to hunt down that probably rare or non existent card with both wireless and wired. This would also give you the future proof posibility to add another wireless bridge when a new and better standard is hitting the market. (I love to have both 802.11b and 802.11n bridges on my network, so I can have the 802.11n bridge running at its fastest setting). I had done something similar with my monowall firewall running on a PC Engines WRAP board. Adding a mini-PCI wireless card, with its associated cables and antennas, would have been a big expense. It was much cheaper to pick up a used Linksys WRT54G ($20 from Craigslist) and use it as a dedicated wireless AP. You can also use the the remaining 3 ethernet ports as you would a regular switch for the wired devices on your LAN. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:04:52PM +0200, oneman wrote: On 28-jun-2008, at 18:30, Gregory Seidman wrote: I have a mini case with a VIA motherboard and CPU. It has an on-board ethernet port. I'd like to use it as a Linux firewall/NAT router to replace the (wired only) LinkSys I have now. It only has one PCI slot, but I want to be able to provide both wired and wireless LAN access. I'm looking for both hardware suggestions (i.e. a PCI card with both wired and wireless ethernet that is supported by the kernel in stable) and configuration help. Maybe not the answer that you were looking for. But seeing what your requirements are, I'd simply add a two or four port ethernet card to the case and plug a wireless bridge into one of the ports. This would be a hassle free setup and give you all the options you need without having to hunt down that probably rare or non existent card with both wireless and wired. This would also give you the future proof posibility to add another wireless bridge when a new and better standard is hitting the market. (I love to have both 802.11b and 802.11n bridges on my network, so I can have the 802.11n bridge running at its fastest setting). Good advice. Suggestions on make/model for a multiport card supported by the stable distribution's kernel? Groet, Peter Teunissen --Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/28/08 22:05, Gregory Seidman wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 10:04:52PM +0200, oneman wrote: On 28-jun-2008, at 18:30, Gregory Seidman wrote: I have a mini case with a VIA motherboard and CPU. It has an on-board ethernet port. I'd like to use it as a Linux firewall/NAT router to replace the (wired only) LinkSys I have now. It only has one PCI slot, but I want to be able to provide both wired and wireless LAN access. I'm looking for both hardware suggestions (i.e. a PCI card with both wired and wireless ethernet that is supported by the kernel in stable) and configuration help. Adding all this extra equipment is going to cost you *much* more than buying a Linksys WRT56GL and reflashing it with the Tomato or DD-WRT firmware. Maybe not the answer that you were looking for. But seeing what your requirements are, I'd simply add a two or four port ethernet card to the case and plug a wireless bridge into one of the ports. This would be a hassle free setup and give you all the options you need without having to hunt down that probably rare or non existent card with both wireless and wired. This would also give you the future proof posibility to add another wireless bridge when a new and better standard is hitting the market. (I love to have both 802.11b and 802.11n bridges on my network, so I can have the 802.11n bridge running at its fastest setting). Good advice. Suggestions on make/model for a multiport card supported by the stable distribution's kernel? Intel cards have been well-supported for ages. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is doomed. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkhnBL4ACgkQS9HxQb37XmdUTQCffJfJqGopd8pNJx9oO5lYXS20 pIgAnRa6/hD8upgVpWHP4jZ+HLvWbUMl =7rWQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
Nick Lidakis wrote: cables and antennas, would have been a big expense. It was much cheaper to pick up a used Linksys WRT54G ($20 from Craigslist) and use it as a Yup, going this way is going to be cheaper, no doubt. However, if the OP goes the way he is thinking about (adding a multiport NIC and a wireless bridge or an additional wireless card), that will be an excellent learning experience. I have an old machine running as a router this way. It has two NICs and a wireless PCI card working as an access point (D-Link, can look up the model if anyone wants, but it is supported by madwifi driver). One of the NICs is connected to my ADSL modem, the other to a LAN switch. My wired LAN is 192.168.0.x, my wireless LAN is 192.168.5.0 and I have iptables running with my custom rules controlling both the network with access the internet via the ppp0 connection made through the ADSL modem. Now, I also have the WRT-54GL which has been flashed with the open source firmware. I would say the consumer router choice (e.g. WRT-54G(L)) is the easiest to implement. The other choice, making a computer as a router, is quite involved but interesting (could be made very streamlined using a firewall machine oriented Linux Distro) and serves as an excellent learning project (networking and iptables). Moreover, with the latter choice, one has very fine grained control over the routing and filtering of network packets. My 2 cents, either way, Good luck to the OP! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 00:50:51 -0400 H.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I would say the consumer router choice (e.g. WRT-54G(L)) is the easiest to implement. The other choice, making a computer as a router, is quite involved but interesting (could be made very streamlined using a firewall machine oriented Linux Distro) and serves as an excellent learning project (networking and iptables). Moreover, with the latter choice, one has very fine grained control over the routing and filtering of network packets. I'm considering these options, too. IIUC, another argument in favor of the former option is the power draw; isn't it much lower for a SOHO router than for a full blown computer running as a router? Celejar -- mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: project: wired/wireless router
Celejar wrote: I'm considering these options, too. IIUC, another argument in favor of the former option is the power draw; isn't it much lower for a SOHO router than for a full blown computer running as a router? Yes, you are correct. Plus the form factor, no upgrades, no keyboard, etc. If one wants is just a simple router with plug-and-go functionality, a consumer SOHO router is the way to do. -HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
